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I was at the grocery store tonight and a guy said to me: "Do you want to make more money than you do in your current job? I live on Cedar. I can help you market your assets."
"My assets," I asked incredulously.
He then said, "Well, if you're a seamstress or something."
I shook my head and then replied, "I make beaded jewelry." He said "the natives do that." No, he wasn't interested in my jewelry.
I turned to walk away. I didn't say much because I wasn't even sure what had happened. I'm not exactly young anymore. My "assets" are middle-aged. I stopped by my aunt and cousin's place on the way home and told them the story and asked if he had proposed what I thought he had. They said yeah. He wouldn't have been anymore interested in seamstress skills than beading. He was offering to pimp me out.
I feel kind of weird, like maybe I should have told him off. I thought about saying something to the store manager so they would try to make sure he wouldn't bother other women in the store, but what he said was ambiguous enough that he could easily have denied it. I don't think anyone has propositioned me for paid sex since I was 14. I didn't know what to do.
BB's photo at a DU fundraiser last year
(http://mickeysmusings.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/image001.jpg)
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BS for no :spork: alert.
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BS for no :spork: alert.
2nd time you have done that to me..pics bother you that much? Sensitive little fellow aren't you?
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Minneapolis must be a rockin' place in the wintertime!
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Just a little friendly user hint: When you quote one of those idiots, the norm is to highlight everything you're quoting, then click the little icon that looks like a cartoon speech bubble, right above the middle of the first row of smilies. That will put the DU content in a quote box, and you can add your own commentary outside it.
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2nd time you have done that to me..pics bother you that much? Sensitive little fellow aren't you?
Whiny little ****, aren't you.
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Whiny little ****, aren't you.
Stalk me much?? What the *** is your beef with me? Brave keyboard commando you are...would not say that to me in person.
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The poor man probably looked at how the DUche was dressed and tried to help it out by letting it clean his toilet.
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Stalk me much?? What the *** is your beef with me? Brave keyboard commando you are...would not say that to me in person.
Son, you might want to do a little more research on the person to whom you're flopping your jaws before you issue such a foolish challenge.
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BainsBane (22,214 posts)
A weird thing happened to me tonight
I was at the grocery store tonight and a guy said to me: "Do you want to make more money than you do in your current job? I live on Cedar. I can help you market your assets."
"My assets," I asked incredulously.
He then said, "Well, if you're a seamstress or something."
I shook my head and then replied, "I make beaded jewelry." He said "the natives do that." No, he wasn't interested in my jewelry.
I turned to walk away. I didn't say much because I wasn't even sure what had happened. I'm not exactly young anymore. My "assets" are middle-aged. I stopped by my aunt and cousin's place on the way home and told them the story and asked if he had proposed what I thought he had. They said yeah. He wouldn't have been anymore interested in seamstress skills than beading. He was offering to pimp me out.
I feel kind of weird, like maybe I should have told him off. I thought about saying something to the store manager so they would try to make sure he wouldn't bother other women in the store, but what he said was ambiguous enough that he could easily have denied it. I don't think anyone has propositioned me for paid sex since I was 14. I didn't know what to do.
In BainsBane's case, this would have to be called a true "bouncy."
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In BainsBane's case, this would have to be called a true "bouncy."
Hers are more like floppies...and just as dated.
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Son, you might want to do a little more research on the person to whom you're flopping your jaws before you issue such a foolish challenge.
I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
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The pimp was just trying to start a new budget line called "Any Port in a Storm" not overly popular, but it does cover that poor illegal or drug addict demographic
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I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
Hint; Dutch don't fight fair
A. Oversensitivity don't go over well on this forum. I (and almost all Cavers) have plenty of BSs but have never been moved to internet badassnes.
3. BSd for whining about BSs.
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Imaging all of those quarters jugs :yahoo: would have to haul around.
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The pimp was just trying to start a new budget line called "Any Port in a Storm" not overly popular, but it does cover that poor illegal or drug addict demographic
Every sea captain knows the value of a foul weather port- and they don't come much more foul than PhDD.
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I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
If I may add my occasionally eloquent two cents: your posts are often hard to read because you seem to reject tried-and-true CC conventions. Someone helped you format your prose, now let me
help you format your attitude: don't have one until you've developed a persona. Me, for example: I'm a douche, and have been accepted as such, even by those who could beat me to dust.
Humility before credibility, my friend.
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Notice how crafty she is: she hates men, but uses their misdeeds and insults to flatter herself in public. Of what use is this anecdote (which either didn't happen or was misconstrued) to DU, other
than to mention in yet another way that she has enough sweater meat to strangle a donkey?
Yes, BainsBane, you have large breasts. How nice for you.
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I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
Shithead, I haven't even paid attention to your lame as **** posts. As for calling you a whiny piece of shit, I guess I will reference your above post.
Gym? Please, cupcake. You wouldn't last fifteen seconds.
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Stalk me much?? What the *** is your beef with me? Brave keyboard commando you are...would not say that to me in person.
:lol:
Yeah. I would.
Now stop being a sensitive little asswhipe and go read something educational.
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Shithead, I haven't even paid attention to your lame as **** posts. As for calling you a whiny piece of shit, I guess I will reference your above post.
Gym? Please, cupcake. You wouldn't last fifteen seconds.
Saw the pic of you with on your link ...your fat beer gut playing with your toy soldiers....not impressed.
No I am not sensitive..just not going to take crap from you on every thread I post on.
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Saw the pic of you with on your link ...your fat beer gut playing with your toy soldiers....not impressed.
No I am not sensitive..just not going to take crap from you on every thread I post on.
LOL. Who is stalking who?
Pathetic, dumbass.
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Saw the pic of you with on your link ...your fat beer gut playing with your toy soldiers....not impressed.
No I am not sensitive..just not going to take crap from you on every thread I post on.
The posting format advice was just that good advice. The spork alert BS was good natured fun.
Lighten up Francis.
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The posting format advice was just that good advice. The spork alert BS was good natured fun.
Lighten up Francis.
No problem.. understand
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Saw the pic of you with on your link ...your fat beer gut playing with your toy soldiers....not impressed.
No I am not sensitive..just not going to take crap from you on every thread I post on.
Actually that is the very definition of sensitive. Seriously - take your lumps and play nice, especially with people who have been here forever.
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Are you talking about the guy in the black shirt playing? That's my good friend, Scott Miller, from Colorado Springs. I took the picture, dumbass. He's prior navy diver and currently an EMT paramedic. If you do a search for Dutch 508 there are a couple of pictures of me.
One in a tower in Kuwait post desert storm. One of me in a chopper over Baghdad, and one of me holding a bronze star.
I am very proud of little soldiers. I painted them all.
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You should read the entire blog, fitman. Start in January 2005'
I haven't updated since 2011, a few things have changed.
I am retired from the Army. I am a police office. I am divorced. I only have one cat.
What are your questions, fruitloop?
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No problem.. understand
be careful, Bad Dog will probably be hitting on you next, just some fair warning...
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:catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight:
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You should read the entire blog, fitman. Start in January 2005'
I haven't updated since 2011, a few things have changed.
I am retired from the Army. I am a police office. I am divorced. I only have one cat.
What are your questions, fruitloop?
I don't know you Dutch and haven't seen many of your posts but from the father of a naval academy graduate thank you for your service.
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:catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight:
Leave it to a noob to **** up a perfectly good thread about big tits.
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I don't know you Dutch and haven't seen many of your posts but from the father of a naval academy graduate thank you for your service.
Bitchslap for sucking up.
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I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
Talk about your keyboard commando. Whew!
Ain't that "stalking" term like some kind of dog whistle crap from the DUmp?
And "bullied" isn't about mere words on a screen, it when you would get bums rushed into the john at high school for your weekly swirly.
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I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
DUmmie, there are very few things a retired Combat Arms trooper fears; there are some but not very many. I don't think a DUmmie gymrat is one of them. I'm sure Dutch could answer that himself, but I feel confident as to what his response would be.
A bit of personal advice from me: Lay off the steroids, Benoit, they're not helping your personality.
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Someone helped you format your prose, now let me help you format your attitude: don't have one until you've developed a persona. Me, for example: I'm a douche, and have been accepted as such, even by those who could beat me to dust.
Humility before credibility, my friend.
With that thin skinned, no self control, chip on the shoulder attitude he's sporting, it's no wonder the harpies ran him off of DU.
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Asking to be PhDD's pimp?? :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Just goes to show that even pimping isn't recession-proof under Dear Leader.
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Stalk me much?? What the *** is your beef with me? Brave keyboard commando you are...would not say that to me in person.
Yes he would, and you would be VERY unhappy afterwards.
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Leave it to a noob to **** up a perfectly good thread about big tits.
To be fair, it might have been about the PhDDs - but one thing they aren't are 'perfectly good'.
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Jeez, Jugs overreacts, doesn't she?
This poor downtrodden fellow was just trying to make something of himself...trying to climb out of poverty by being inventive and innovative. And he was trying to help another fellow human being out in this terribly economy, in doing so.
After all, all he wanted to do was sell her a book:
(http://076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/files/000/069/031/original/original.0)
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
CMD
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Why is it that whenever a DUmpmonkey comes over here, it's rarely an entertaining one?
We get DUmp rejects and obnoxious high school kids, but hardly ever a DUmmy of any quality, and none since the LVL shut down.
Anyway, this thread by Jugs is a clear indication she's upset by our almost universal opinion that her grotesque appearance is repulsive to normal people.
She made up a bouncy about being propositioned as a counterpoint, but it's a transparent fantasy.
She hates men, but hates their rejection even more.
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Why is it that whenever a DUmpmonkey comes over here, it's rarely an entertaining one?
We get DUmp rejects and obnoxious high school kids, but hardly ever a DUmmy of any quality, and none since the LVL shut down.
Anyway, this thread by Jugs is a clear indication she's upset by our almost universal opinion that her grotesque appearance is repulsive to normal people.
She made up a bouncy about being propositioned as a counterpoint, but it's a transparent fantasy.
She hates men, but hates their rejection even more.
She hates herself, and sees everything through that hate.
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She hates herself, and sees everything through that hate.
...everything except her feet. She could have two different shoes on and never notice.
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Son, you might want to do a little more research on the person to whom you're flopping your jaws before you issue such a foolish challenge.
Damned good advice Fitman. I ain't got no beef with you and never have, dunno who you are, don't know where you come from and I don't really care. This ain't the place to be if you gonna be like that though. Take the advice or leave it. Don't matter to me one bit.
Just my 2 cents. :cheersmate:
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Did fitman pick up his DUmbbells and go home? :???:
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I'll meet him anytime in my gym...I'm just saying he would not call me a whiney ass in person...and not going to be bullied by him and 2 other posters who keep stalking me from thread to thread.
Lighten up, Francis.
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Stalk me much?? What the *** is your beef with me? Brave keyboard commando you are...would not say that to me in person.
ooooohhh
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Bitchslap for sucking up.
Sucking up is OK, but you have to do it well.
The Dutch failed massively...
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ooooohhh
Don't make me pull this thread off the road!
We are close enough to home for both of you to walk!
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How did this thread go so wrong? :lmao:
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How did this thread go so wrong? :lmao:
Shitty boobiez.
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How did this thread go so wrong? :lmao:
A DUmmy child.
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Shitty boobiez.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Grand parents in 1958 decided to take a tour of the south West when grandpa was down there in the army holding the border against the Mexicans in WW1. Grandma had come down from Maine to marry grandpa in Deming N,M at some time in 1918 or so.
Both wanted to see the changes over 40 years from when they were young and in love.
They visited the church they had married in, and at some time crossed into Mexico.
They were running out of clean clothes and grandma had to wear a pair of bright red pants given to her.
Both in their 60's at this time. They stopped to get gas in Mexico and someone gave her a wolf whistle that was to become the highlight of the last days of her life.
For the next 20 years she delighted on telling us, neighbors and her Church friends this story.
It must be grand to at 60+ to get that whistle for any reason.
Grandpa was oh so proud of her --His little desert blossom as he called her to the day he died.
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:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
blah blah blah
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So what's the matter with you, are you one of the generation that gives a shit about how your family came to be ??
Now Dumb ass, I have unfortunately met allot of people that have no interest in their family, it is just all me, me.
How do you think your life is more important then those of your family's and have no interest on how they lived or died, just me, me,.
Met a idiot in the family that had no idea at 30 years old his uncle had been on a Pig boat in WW2, never cared .
Met a woman that was astounded to find out her grandmother was one of the Nurses captured by the Japanese.
Everyone in the family knows about their Hero's and talk about them but some have no interest unless there is money involved.
Only when a family member comes to prominence do your kind give a crap about past family and what shaped the ideas of your own family and upbringing.
Even if adopted at birth, your new family has some tales to tell of the past, but if you don't ask or show interest in the family that raised you, you will never know until an obituary is posted to see what you have missed out on from not showing any interest. :censored: :censored: :censored:
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So what's the matter with you, are you one of the generation that gives a shit about how your family came to be ??
Now Dumb ass, I have unfortunately met allot of people that have no interest in their family, it is just all me, me.
How do you think your life is more important then those of your family's and have no interest on how they lived or died, just me, me,.
Met a idiot in the family that had no idea at 30 years old his uncle had been on a Pig boat in WW2, never cared .
Met a woman that was astounded to find out her grandmother was one of the Nurses captured by the Japanese.
Everyone in the family knows about their Hero's and talk about them but some have no interest unless there is money involved.
Only when a family member comes to prominence do your kind give a crap about past family and what shaped the ideas of your own family and upbringing.
Even if adopted at birth, your new family has some tales to tell of the past, but if you don't ask or show interest in the family that raised you, you will never know until an obituary is posted to see what you have missed out on from not showing any interest. :censored: :censored: :censored:
This might apply.
Lighten up, Francis.
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BB, if you're out there, don't listen to these guys. I'd hit it.
Not for money, but I'd hit it.
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BB, if you're out there, don't listen to these guys. I'd hit it.
Not for money, but I'd hit it.
Goes without saying.
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BB, if you're out there, don't listen to these guys. I'd hit it.
Not for money, but I'd hit it.
Only after the bars close.
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How the eff did this thread get to 4 pages before I get a word in edgewise ?
If Jugs wore a g-string, I wouldn't even put a penny in it.
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How the eff did this thread get to 4 pages before I get a word in edgewise ?
If Jugs wore a g-string, I wouldn't even put a penny in it.
With her fixation on pimps recruiting her, I think Alex is a "taxicab" kind of gal.
"Two bucks a mile, and the meter's running, pal," and her back seat smells like a drunk's regret.
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^Priceless !
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BainsBane (22,303 posts)
He then said, "Well, if you're a seamstress or something."
A seamstress. A seamstress. Measuring inseams. Inseams. Know what I mean? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
BainsBane (22,303 posts)
2. Actually, come to think of it I was propositioned downtown a few years ago. Ironically also the dead of winter. A guy held up a $100 bill and asked me if I wanted it.
She was wearing a brown coat, and the John mistook her for a Holstein. He always wanted to screw a cow, but the Department of Agriculture had a restraining order against him.
I was unemployed at the time. I suppose I looked it. I shook my head and kept walking. Maybe it's harder to find sex workers in the winter?
Alex, are you telling us that even with a PhD(D) is South American Slavery, that you were walking the streets of Minneapolis unemployed and being offered money from strange men for sex?
You could have saved yourself and the taxpayers a lot of money, skipped college, and apprenticed to a crack whore right out of high school.
Hindsight's 20/20, as they say. Hindsight. Hind-sight. Say no more, say no more. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?
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A seamstress. A seamstress. Measuring inseams. Inseams. Know what I mean? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
She was wearing a brown coat, and the John mistook her for a Holstein. He always wanted to screw a cow, but the Department of Agriculture had a restraining order against him.
Alex, are you telling us that even with a PhD(D) is South American Slavery, that you were walking the streets of Minneapolis unemployed and being offered money from strange men for sex?
You could have saved yourself and the taxpayers a lot of money, skipped college, and apprenticed to a crack whore right out of high school.
Hindsight's 20/20, as they say. Hindsight. Hind-sight. Say no more, say no more. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?
Somebody please call the attendant, BDs having another seizure.
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Somebody please call the attendant, BDs having another seizure.
Monty Python fans will get the more obscure parts.
Farm folks will get the Holstein joke.
Almost any of us can enjoy the unemployed PhD(D) who chose poorly when she read the grad school catalog.
It was very nearly the perfect storm of comedy!
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Monty Python fans will get the more obscure parts.
Farm folks will get the Holstein joke.
Almost any of us can enjoy the unemployed PhD(D) who chose poorly when she read the grad school catalog.
It was very nearly the perfect storm of comedy!
Indeed, no need to defend it. Holstein jokes are always risky but you pulled it off.
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
Well, if you're a DUmbass, there's about a 99% chance you're the mirror image of a mule's ass with anal warts.
Need a tissue? :popcorn:
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
Alex, honey. I knew you'd come back.
It's not that you are physically unattractive. That is a matter of taste.
It's your personality. The closed-mindedness and hatred bakes off you like heat from a South Texas highway.
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Well, if you're a DUmbass, there's about a 99% chance you're the mirror image of a mule's ass with anal warts.
Need a tissue? :popcorn:
No, I thought I'd just save you some time by cutting to the chase. No need to comment on the obvious.
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
BSd for preemptive whining.
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Indeed, no need to defend it. Holstein jokes are always risky but you pulled it off.
Thanks. The risk of a dairy cow joke coming from beef country can be daunting, but comedy demands fearlessness!
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Alex, honey. I knew you'd come back.
It's not that you are a physically unattractive. That is a matter of taste.
It's your personality. The closed-mindedness and hatred bakes off you like heat from a South Texas highway.
Oh dear. What's a girl to do. Sigh.
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No, I thought I'd just save you some time by cutting to the chase. No need to comment on the obvious.
Touché.
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
BS for the stupid screen name.
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Touché.
I think that is spelled with a "d".
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BS for the stupid screen name.
Hey. I thought I'd get some credit for honesty. Isn't that what you always tell the other DUers who visit? Don't try to pretend you're something you're not? I never have been much for faking it. I'm awful at it.
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Oh dear. What's a girl to do. Sigh.
Well, a cougar can't change her spots.
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Hey. I thought I'd get some credit for honesty. Isn't that what you always tell the other DUers who visit? Don't try to pretend you're something you're not? I never have been much for faking it. I'm awful at it.
You have mistaken us for someone's who give a shit. Say something interesting.
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Well, if you're a DUmbass, there's about a 99% chance you're the mirror image of a mule's ass with anal warts.
Need a tissue? :popcorn:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/special/hanging-donkey_zps0c3e4697.gif)
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately.
Believe me, honey. We're little lambs compared to DU. The real hate is there.
I have never seen a greater cesspool of bigotry and intolerance than at DU.
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Well, a cougar can't change her spots.
Very true. And you could waterboard me for days on and and I still wouldn't vote Republican. And since voting Democratic is enough to be considered repulsive and hateful to you all, I'll have to go through the rest of my life without your admiration or even toleration. Alas, I'll just have to find a way to soldier on, somehow.
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Believe me, honey. We're little lambs compared to DU. The real hate is there.
I have never seen a greater cesspool of bigotry and intolerance than at DU.
The visiting primitive is up to four posts, which is exactly three posts further than anyone of us would have made it at DU with the handle of "anti-democrat".
I'll be generous, and not count the first post in that number, but well all know how fast it would be scrubbed and thrown down the memory hole.
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Here's another one for Bag'sBags:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/special/3-girls-guns_zps33ec8a51.jpg)
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Believe me, honey. We're little lambs compared to DU. The real hate is there.
I have never seen a greater cesspool of bigotry and intolerance than at DU.
No comment. O-)
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Very true. And you could waterboard me for days on and and I still wouldn't vote Republican. And since voting Democratic is enough to be considered repulsive and hateful to you all, I'll have to go through the rest of my life without your admiration or even toleration. Alas, I'll just have to find a way to soldier on, somehow.
Voting republican is considered repulsive and hateful to you, so I'd say we are even.
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Very true. And you could waterboard me for days on and and I still wouldn't vote Republican. And since voting Democratic is enough to be considered repulsive and hateful to you all, I'll have to go through the rest of my life without your admiration or even toleration. Alas, I'll just have to find a way to soldier on, somehow.
Your voting record is not what makes DU repulsive. Its the blatant hatred towards Jews and Christians.
Its the rejoicing at the death of anyone who disagrees with you. Its banning and removing the words of anyone who dares to think differently.
Its your actions, not your votes that are repulsive.
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Very true. And you could waterboard me for days on and and I still wouldn't vote Republican. And since voting Democratic is enough to be considered repulsive and hateful to you all, I'll have to go through the rest of my life without your admiration or even toleration. Alas, I'll just have to find a way to soldier on, somehow.
Alex,
I am not a Republican, and your choice to vote for a Democrat means nothing to me.
It's your faux elitism coupled with a complete lack of critical thinking ability, casual dismissal of natural and Constitutional rights, and blatant sexism I find repulsive.
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No comment. O-)
By far, best post so far.
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You have mistaken us for someone's who give a shit. Say something interesting.
I doubt that's possible. I'm not interesting at all, which is why I have to wonder why you pay so much attention to me. Seriously. That's just lame.
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
We all can't be as warm and fuzzy as you DUmmies are.
I at least admit I hate you freaks, you pretend that nothing you do or say is hateful, when the truth is, you are just as full of hate, if not more.
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Voting republican is considered repulsive and hateful to you, so I'd say we are even.
Have you ever seen me say that? I doubt it.
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I doubt that's possible. I'm not interesting at all, which is why I have to wonder why you pay so much attention to me. Seriously. That's just lame.
Two and only two reasons.
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Your voting record is not what makes DU repulsive. Its the blatant hatred towards Jews and Christians.
Its the rejoicing at the death of anyone who disagrees with you. Its banning and removing the words of anyone who dares to think differently.
Its your actions, not your votes that are repulsive.
Hatred toward Jews and Christians? From me? That's a new one. No, you won't find anything like that from me.
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Skinner beats down a climate denier. (dissent is not allowed)
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93935.0.html
Justice Sonia Sotomayo Blocks ACA Provision Anti-Catholic Bigotry acceptable at DU
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93728.0.html
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Have you ever seen me say that? I doubt it.
You live at site built by people who are repulsed and hate people who vote for repukes.
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No comment. O-)
I'd B.S. you again for such a lame retort, but I'd have to wait an hour.
I read this forum for the laughs. You are a DUmmies. Be FUNNIE!
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Hatred toward Jews and Christians? From me? That's a new one. No, you won't find anything like that from me.
Your specialty is gun owners. Don't even try to deny you hate them as much as you hate their guns.
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Hatred toward Jews and Christians? From me? That's a new one. No, you won't find anything like that from me.
Maybe not from you, but its everywhere at DU...Your silence sounds like approval
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Alex,
I am not a Republican, and your choice to vote for a Democrat means nothing to me.
It's your faux elitism coupled with a complete lack of critical thinking ability, casual dismissal of natural and Constitutional rights, and blatant sexism I find repulsive.
I'm guessing you mean guns by constitutional rights. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of guns. But sexism? How do you figure that?
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I'm guessing you mean guns by constitutional rights. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of guns. But sexism? How do you figure that?
He means you're a feminazi.
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I'm guessing you mean guns by constitutional rights. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of guns. But sexism? How do you figure that?
:jugs: , is that you again? :yahoo:
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93940.0.html
Let the hating begin: Ariel Sharon is now in hell...
DU wallows in Jew/Israeli hatred. DU sides with Palestinian terrorists.
Why are you silent at DU...or is this acceptable to you as well?
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I'm guessing you mean guns by constitutional rights. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of guns. But sexism? How do you figure that?
The second amendment was written because the founders knew there would be people like you.
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Skinner beats down a climate denier. (dissent is not allowed)
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93935.0.html
Justice Sonia Sotomayo Blocks ACA Provision Anti-Catholic Bigotry acceptable at DU
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93728.0.html
This may shock you, but I don't own DU. The only thing I'm responsible for there is what I write. Now granted, I'm sure I say stupid things fairly often, but I'm only responsible for the stupid stuff I write. I've gotten into arguments with people about religious bigotry. I don't do grave dancing and have said I don't like it, but usually I just skip those threads. You can hold me accountable for anything and everything I say, but not for some DU collective opinion you assume everyone holds. I think people here have paid enough attention to me to know I disagree with folks there on many, many issues. Of course none of those disagreements are to the right of the rest of DU, but my ideas are my own.
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93897.0.html
Dick Dawkins proves pedos OK so long as they're the "right" pedos
Pedophilia is acceptable at DU as long as an atheist of a socialist is doing it.
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The second amendment was written because the founders knew there would be people like you.
And to counter those people are people like me, a gun pusher. :tongue:
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This may shock you, but I don't own DU. The only thing I'm responsible for there is what I write. Now granted, I'm sure I say stupid things fairly often, but I'm only responsible for the stupid stuff I write. I've gotten into arguments with people about religious bigotry. I don't do grave dancing and have said I don't like it, but usually I just skip those threads. You can hold me accountable for anything and everything I say, but not for some DU collective opinion you assume everyone holds. I think people here have paid enough attention to me to know I disagree with folks there on many, many issues. Of course none of those disagreements are to the right of the rest of DU, but my ideas are my own.
I figure if we all get judged for one confederate flag at a protest, then we get to collectively judge you goons as well. Your side set the rules so live with it.
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93940.0.html
Let the hating begin: Ariel Sharon is now in hell...
DU wallows in Jew/Israeli hatred. DU sides with Palestinian terrorists.
Why are you silent at DU...or is this acceptable to you as well?
I haven't read that thread. I'm silent in the vast majority of threads. I post a hell of a lot there, way too much, but even so I can't begin to approach engaging in more than a tiny fraction of the threads.
Don't mistake that for approval of Israeli policy in Palestine. I do not, but I don't get into those discussions in DU, largely because it's so heated and contentious, and I don't know enough about the issues to wade into the I/P forum.
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This may shock you, but I don't own DU. The only thing I'm responsible for there is what I write. Now granted, I'm sure I say stupid things fairly often, but I'm only responsible for the stupid stuff I write. I've gotten into arguments with people about religious bigotry. I don't do grave dancing and have said I don't like it, but usually I just skip those threads. You can hold me accountable for anything and everything I say, but not for some DU collective opinion you assume everyone holds. I think people here have paid enough attention to me to know I disagree with folks there on many, many issues. Of course none of those disagreements are to the right of the rest of DU, but my ideas are my own.
and YET, you continue to post at a site where such hatreds are acceptable. You come here to call us "Mean," when you support a site far worse than anything ever posted here.
and honey, I've not seen any poster at DU who defended Christianity who wasn't banned. I can't believe you have dome so without a link.
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I haven't read that thread. I'm silent in the vast majority of threads. I post a hell of a lot there, way too much, but even so I can't begin to approach engaging in more than a tiny fraction of the threads.
Don't mistake that for approval of Israeli policy in Palestine. I do not, but I don't get into those discussions in DU, largely because it's so heated and contentious, and I don't know enough about the issues to wade into the I/P forum.
Having no knowledge hasn't shut you up about guns.
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This may shock you, but I don't own DU. The only thing I'm responsible for there is what I write.
You lying sack of shit.
You ban people that have a different opinion that yours in the gun grabber section. You believe in censorship of dissenting opinions.
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I haven't read that thread. I'm silent in the vast majority of threads. I post a hell of a lot there, way too much, but even so I can't begin to approach engaging in more than a tiny fraction of the threads.
Don't mistake that for approval of Israeli policy in Palestine. I do not, but I don't get into those discussions in DU, largely because it's so heated and contentious, and I don't know enough about the issues to wade into the I/P forum.
The Jewish hate threads were not in the IP forums, they were in the GENERAL forum. and NO ONE called your fellow members on their hate.
This is why I'm bring this to you. No one calls out the hate at DU, but you have the gall to come here and condemn us for laughing at you.
Bottom line: hatred and bigotry are ACCEPTABLE at DU. even if you are silent, you still support the site.
If the KKK were democrats would you support them too? Oh wait...they ARE democrats.
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93897.0.html
Dick Dawkins proves pedos OK so long as they're the "right" pedos
Pedophilia is acceptable at DU as long as an atheist of a socialist is doing it.
You need to read some of my posts on the subject. You have no basis to accuse me of approval of pedophilia in anyway, shape or form, regardless of who is doing the molesting or who is doing the minimizing of child rape. In fact, my reputation as feminazi comes largely from my posts against rape of women, children, and men.
Mr. Mann, I can see you aren't familiar with my posting history, which is fine. There is no reason you should be. But it's pure bullshit to accuse me of things I have not only not supported, but specifically denounced.
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You need to read some of my posts on the subject. You have no basis to accuse me of approval of pedophilia in anyway, shape or form, regardless of who is doing the molesting or who is doing the minimizing of child rape. In fact, my reputation as feminazi comes largely from my posts against rape of women, children, and men.
Mr. Mann, I can see you aren't familiar with my posting history, which is fine. There is no reason you should be. But it's pure bullshit to accuse me of things I have not only not supported, but specifically denounced.
Oh shit, it is :jugs: !!!!
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This may shock you, but I don't own DU. The only thing I'm responsible for there is what I write. Now granted, I'm sure I say stupid things fairly often, but I'm only responsible for the stupid stuff I write. I've gotten into arguments with people about religious bigotry. I don't do grave dancing and have said I don't like it, but usually I just skip those threads. You can hold me accountable for anything and everything I say, but not for some DU collective opinion you assume everyone holds. I think people here have paid enough attention to me to know I disagree with folks there on many, many issues. Of course none of those disagreements are to the right of the rest of DU, but my ideas are my own.
One short paragraph.
I's. 14
Me's. 2
My's. 2
Who else has a problem with that?????
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And to counter those people are people like me, a gun pusher. :tongue:
Tucker, I'm dying to know your DU name(s). I know we've tangled. How about a hint?
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and YET, you continue to post at a site where such hatreds are acceptable. You come here to call us "Mean," when you support a site far worse than anything ever posted here.
and honey, I've not seen any poster at DU who defended Christianity who wasn't banned. I can't believe you have dome so without a link.
As opposed to this site, where people wish death on to Democrats and celebrate when an old man like Middle Finger Mom dies. Here people make comments about wishing DUers would kill themselves, etc. Really, you are not in a position to cast stones.
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You need to read some of my posts on the subject. You have no basis to accuse me of approval of pedophilia in anyway, shape or form, regardless of who is doing the molesting or who is doing the minimizing of child rape. In fact, my reputation as feminazi comes largely from my posts against rape of women, children, and men.
Mr. Mann, I can see you aren't familiar with my posting history, which is fine. There is no reason you should be. But it's pure bullshit to accuse me of things I have not only not supported, but specifically denounced.
I'm merely presenting the hateful posts at DU that you said were not there. These types of posts are LEGION over there.
its easy to say you don't support them, but the sheer volume of such posts define DU. and your silence is deafening.
I can learn a LOT about a person by looking the people he prefers to associate himself with. You surround yourself with religious bigots, grave dancers and worse. That tells me all I need to know about you.
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As opposed to this site, where people wish death on to Democrats and celebrate when an old man like Middle Finger Mom dies. Here people make comments about wishing DUers would kill themselves, etc. Really, you are not in a position to cast stones.
Oh contraire. You are merely being given a taste of your own medicine.
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Tucker, I'm dying to know your DU name(s). I know we've tangled. How about a hint?
Clumsy Ninja.
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You lying sack of shit.
You ban people that have a different opinion that yours in the gun grabber section. You believe in censorship of dissenting opinions.
You are a gungeoner aren't you. Still pissed off that that little gun control group exists. I know you've seen me say this 100 times, but groups are not forums. They have statements of purpose for membership and that group exists to promote gun control. The gungeon exists for trolls like you. See how that works out? You have one little part of DU that you can't disrupt with your RW crap pretending to be a Democrat. You are a precise example of why that group was created.
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
Listen, I'm a woman about your age and I am well-endowed up top like you. It's not your looks that I ridicule, it's that you're stupid enough to be a liberal. You proclaim to be some intelligent and independent woman but liberalism, in my opinion, is all about allowing some group of bureaucrats in D.C. to confiscate money that you work hard to earn and then use the same money to enrich themselves and their friends. Worse, with this group of liberals running D.C. right now, they not only want to confiscate your money to spend as they wish, they want to tell you and me how to live.
Of course, most people at the democratic underground don't work and just want someone else to take care of them.
How can anyone be so ****ing stupid to think that's the way to live?
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You are a gungeoner aren't you. Still pissed off that that little gun control group exists. I know you've seen me say this 100 times, but groups are not forums. They have statements of purpose for membership and that group exists to promote gun control. The gungeon exists for trolls like you. See how that works out? You have one little part of DU that you can't disrupt with your RW crap pretending to be a Democrat. You are a precise example of why that group was created.
Proof that DU simply cannot handle a diversity of opinions. On top of all the hate, DU is anti-Free speech as well.
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Oh and you should tell your friend her son is doing pot. Parents have a right to know.
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Listen, I'm a woman about your age and I am well-endowed up top like you. It's not your looks that I ridicule, it's that you're stupid enough to be a liberal. You proclaim to be some intelligent and independent woman but liberalism, in my opinion, is all about allowing some group of bureaucrats in D.C. to confiscate money that you work hard to earn and then use the same money to enrich themselves and their friends. Worse, with this group of liberals running D.C. right now, they not only want to confiscate your money to spend as they wish, they want to tell you and me how to live.
Of course, most people at the democratic underground don't work and just want someone else to take care of them.
How can anyone be so ****ing stupid to think that's the way to live?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Typical response from a woman who can't think for herself. :loser:
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Oh and you should tell your friend her son is doing pot. Parents have a right to know.
Actually I figured out it wasn't him but his friend.
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I'm guessing you mean guns by constitutional rights. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of guns. But sexism? How do you figure that?
You're too modest. Remember, we read what you write.
"I'm not a huge fan of guns" doesn't even begin to cover it. You have full-on, foaming-at-the-mouth, undiluted hoplophobia (fear and hatred of guns), and an equal fear and hatred of the good and decent citizens who own and carry them.
How about some other rights:
1. Individual liberty
2. Life
3. The natural right of self-defense
4. Property and Trade: the right to possess, buy, sell, and barter privately owned property or goods without government permission
5. Freedom of speech (careful on that one, it's a DU minefield!)
6. Freedom of choice (pick one: choose your own health insurance policy, choose to carry a weapon for self-defense, choose charter school or home-schooling children, choose to watch adult movies)
7, Freedom of religion (think "nuns" and "forced subsidizing of contraception")
8. Freedom to raise children in accordance with the parents' values
We'll come back to the personal and institutional sexism of the Ku Klux Klams later, if you're not banned for re-registering after your last ban.
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Actually it's the thinking for myself that makes me progressive.
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Jugs, next time you post a pack of lies about pimps accosting you, try "waitress" or something believable. Seamstress? Too archaic. Besides, a pimp would know that big, saggy ta-tas wouldn't leave room for needlework in the lap and are too dangerous for machine work. I assume you'd like your bouncies to be somewhat believable? Or maybe not as the objective of the bouncy was "Look at ME!"
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You're too modest. Remember, we read what you write.
"I'm not a huge fan of guns" doesn't even begin to cover it. You have full-on, foaming-at-the-mouth, undiluted hoplophobia (fear and hatred of guns), and an equal fear and hatred of the good and decent citizens who own and carry them.
How about some other rights:
1. Individual liberty
2. Life
3. The natural right of self-defense
4. Property and Trade: the right to possess, buy, sell, and barter privately owned property or goods without government permission
5. Freedom of speech (careful on that one, it's a DU minefield!)
6. Freedom of choice (pick one: choose your own health insurance policy, choose to carry a weapon for self-defense, choose charter school or home-schooling children, choose to watch adult movies)
7, Freedom of religion (think "nuns" and "forced subsidizing of contraception")
8. Freedom to raise children in accordance with the parents' values
We'll come back to the personal and institutional sexism of the Ku Klux Klams later, if you're not banned for re-registering after your last ban.
But, but, but women are a protected class. :whatever:
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I've gotten into arguments with people about religious bigotry.
I still haven't seen a link of you defending against religious bigotry.
I provided links...why can't you.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Since you brought it up, could you post some pictures of the girls when they are ummmmmm unencumbered? I only ask for Big Dog who is shy.
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Typical response from a woman who can't think for herself. :loser:
Actually it's the thinking for myself that makes me progressive.
You think so well for yourself, you can't even post here properly. If you're a liberal (progressive, or whatever you call yourselves these days), you don't think for yourself. That you believe you think for yourself is what's really scary.
But, but, but "war on women," right? The war on women comes from liberals. Period.
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Actually I figured out it wasn't him but his friend.
and that justifies saying...nothing to your friend? Drug use in her home is something she needs to know about. Further I doubt it was "just a friend." You'd be a fool to believe that too.
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As opposed to this site, where people wish death on to Democrats and celebrate when an old man like Middle Finger Mom dies. Here people make comments about wishing DUers would kill themselves, etc. Really, you are not in a position to cast stones.
Are you insane ? You're certainly not quoting Freeper, are you ?
Or is your memory already erased from praising Freeper on the subject.
You do remember Freeper, a Conservative Caver, don't you ?
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One short paragraph.
I's. 14
Me's. 2
My's. 2
Who else has a problem with that?????
Yet more proof of how dull I am. So let's review: I'm deformed, hideously ugly, un****able, have a horrible personality, and am boring. Yet you guys post thread after thread devoted to watching a really boring person. That sounds pretty damn pointless to me.
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Are you insane ? You're certainly not quoting Freeper, are you ?
Or is your memory already erased from praising Freeper on the subject.
You do remember Freeper, a Conservative Caver, don't you ?
I'll answer for her. She's insane.
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Yet more proof of how dull I am. So let's review: I'm deformed, hideously ugly, un****able, have a horrible personality, and am boring. Yet you guys post thread after thread devoted to watching a really boring person. That sounds pretty damn pointless to me.
Actually, I was pointing out a trait you share with the great and all knowing messiah. You should feel honored.
Now, about Big Dog's request.
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You are a gungeoner aren't you. Still pissed off that that little gun control group exists. I know you've seen me say this 100 times, but groups are not forums. They have statements of purpose for membership and that group exists to promote gun control. The gungeon exists for trolls like you. See how that works out? You have one little part of DU that you can't disrupt with your RW crap pretending to be a Democrat. You are a precise example of why that group was created.
Bullshit. You, yourself have posted anti-gun threads in GD then complain when someone posts a pro gun thread. How about you keep your gun grabbing BS in the gun grabbing section?
As to a clue, I'm going to give you one in a bit. I'm thinking about it. I want one that only Bilbo, Golum and myself could guess.
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But, but, but "war on women," right? The war on women comes from liberals. Period.
Gary Condit and the death of an intern.
Anthony Weiner and his inability to stay faithful to the mother of his child.
The Kennedy clan and their collective inability to be faithful to their wives.
Obama's hand picked secret service body guards embroiled in one hooker escapade after another.
Bill Clinton's escapades up to and including rape.
Jessee Jackson paying his wife with millions in jewelry to remain silent during his infidelities.
--and they accuse US of starting a war on women...?
One by one, pretty much EVERY male elected democrat has been shown to see women as toys, not people.
No wonder they support abortion, they don't want to pay the consequences.
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Yet more proof of how dull I am. So let's review: I'm deformed, hideously ugly, un****able, have a horrible personality, and am boring. Yet you guys post thread after thread devoted to watching a really boring person. That sounds pretty damn pointless to me.
As I said earlier today, you DUmpmonkeys exist for two reasons:
1. Intel - by watching you, we can find out the latest Democrat party talking points dressed up as original DUmmy posts
2. Entertainment - just like watching a train wreck, and you have been a most entertaining train wreck to watch, Alex.
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Gary Condit and the death of an intern.
Anthony Weiner and his inability to stay faithful to the mother of his child.
The Kennedy clan and their collective inability to be faithful to their wives.
Obama's hand picked secret service body guards embroiled in one hooker escapade after another.
Bill Clinton's escapades up to and including rape.
Jessee Jackson paying his wife with millions in jewelry to remain silent during his infidelities.
--and they accuse US of starting a war on women...?
One by one, pretty much EVERY male elected democrat has been shown to see women as toys, not people.
No wonder they support abortion, they don't want to pay the consequences.
Don't forget Ted Kennedy let a woman die under a bridge not only without consequence but he was promoted as some sort of icon to the American people.
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Yet more proof of how dull I am. So let's review: I'm deformed, hideously ugly, un****able, have a horrible personality, and am boring. Yet you guys post thread after thread devoted to watching a really boring person. That sounds pretty damn pointless to me.
actually in these last few pages we discussed your issues, not your appearance.
We haven't even touched your bizarre feminazi crusade. Finding every post a sexist attack makes me laugh at you.
and that my dear is what your DUmmies never seem to figure out. We aren't stalking you, we're LAUGHING at you! That is the whole purpose of the dumpster, to laugh at the insane rants of DUmmies who think they are the reality based community. DUmmies suffer from their own bad choices and then blame Bush-thats funny. Nearly every forum on the net has links to the idiocy of DU. The entire internet is laughing at you guys.
Here at CC, we're just better at mining DU for quotes.
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally UN****able, will you then let up a bit?
Hey, Kid! Welcome back! Um... probably not. You need some think skin over here. Now, point of order, I never said you were ugly. I don't think I'd get into a relationship with you but that's more due to your politics.
Now, let's see...
You politicize everything. You froth at the mouth about the RKBA. You screech at the top of your lungs about women's oppression at the hands of men. You are highly sensitive to anyone putting you down. In short- the average academic in America.
What am I missing? Um... abused by older man while a young child? Serious daddy issues? Manic Depression? Latent homosexuality?
:-*
Glad you came back.
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Hatred toward Jews and Christians? From me? That's a new one. No, you won't find anything like that from me.
How about blatant ****ing hypocrisy bordering on lunacy? You DUmbasses are the FIRST to defend Muzzies and Islam as some "peaceful" ****ing religion, when NO nation that is majority Muzzie allows any semblance of free speech, homosexuality, or anything else that's all over the west, nations started by people with Judeo-Christian principles, yet the FIRST idiots to trash Christianity, Jews, and anyone that stands to protect his people in Israel from Islamic scumbag terrorists hellbent on pushing them into the sea....dead first.
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Wah, Jugs is off line. This must be the first time she never got the last word.
It sure is different without a jury to remove disagreeable posts, aint it?
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Oh my.
She came and went and I didn't notice (on the computer, but busy in real life here).
Damn.
I would've liked to dialogued with her.
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Tucker, I'm dying to know your DU name(s). I know we've tangled. How about a hint?
Live in California.
Male.
Middle-aged.
Have meet many DUmmies in person.
Semi retired. Work part time in a gun shop.
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Listen, I'm a woman about your age and I am well-endowed up top like you.
Whoa. Wait. What?
You're top-heavy.
I never noticed. Really. Cross my heart. On the Head of St. John the Baptist, I never noticed.
I guess I was always too busy enjoying your pleasant, effervescent, bubbly, good-natured persona to notice anything like that.
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Jugs hates any Christian or Jew who has a dick or a firearm.
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I'm guessing you mean guns by constitutional rights. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of guns.
And that's your prerogative. It's when you decide that your "feelings" on guns trump my constitutional right to own guns is where we have the ****ing problem.
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I'm deformed, hideously ugly, un****able, have a horrible personality, and am boring.
Damn. I agree with her on something.
We're making FUN of you, Hindenbergboobs. Your return shows that it obviously bugs you.
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I'm deformed, hideously ugly, un****able, have a horrible personality, and am boring.
That's all eminently true, but Bennyboy would get in line behind stevenumbers to hit it.
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That's all eminently true, but Bennyboy would get in line behind stevenumbers to hit it.
The zombie is, of course, the expert but, this is not vivid imagery.
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Actually it's the thinking for myself that makes me progressive.
And you're not intelligent enough to understand the basis behind the term "progressivism". It's STEEPED in Marxist ideology, dating back to the Bolshevik Revolution, with all the political assassinations, internments camps, quelled freedoms, and everything else that comes along with it. Look at your own ****ing board and how much shit you want banned and how many rights you want quelled. You ****ing idiots are bred to be ruled.
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You're too modest. Remember, we read what you write.
"I'm not a huge fan of guns" doesn't even begin to cover it. You have full-on, foaming-at-the-mouth, undiluted hoplophobia (fear and hatred of guns), and an equal fear and hatred of the good and decent citizens who own and carry them.
How about some other rights:
1. Individual liberty
2. Life
3. The natural right of self-defense
4. Property and Trade: the right to possess, buy, sell, and barter privately owned property or goods without government permission
5. Freedom of speech (careful on that one, it's a DU minefield!)
6. Freedom of choice (pick one: choose your own health insurance policy, choose to carry a weapon for self-defense, choose charter school or home-schooling children, choose to watch adult movies)
7, Freedom of religion (think "nuns" and "forced subsidizing of contraception")
8. Freedom to raise children in accordance with the parents' values
We'll come back to the personal and institutional sexism of the Ku Klux Klams later, if you're not banned for re-registering after your last ban.
WTF? That is all the typical conservative BS about liberals in general. You have not seen me post on even a fraction of that stuff. I'm not going to indulge that nonsense.
What is sexist about wanting to see rapists prosecuted? What is sexist about opposing domestic abuse? Are you going to tell me a man should be able to force himself on a woman against her will or beat her up if he feels like it? Is that your idea of what a real man does? Those are the issues I post about. If that is your idea of man hating or sexism, that's wacky. Most men are not batterers or rapists. Hating the CRIME of rape and battery and the CRIMINALS who perpetrate it is not hating men.
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Jugs, next time you post a pack of lies about pimps accosting you, try "waitress" or something believable. Seamstress? Too archaic. Besides, a pimp would know that big, saggy ta-tas wouldn't leave room for needlework in the lap and are too dangerous for machine work. I assume you'd like your bouncies to be somewhat believable? Or maybe not as the objective of the bouncy was "Look at ME!"
Obviously the guy had a very low rent operation.
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Since you brought it up, could you post some pictures of the girls when they are ummmmmm unencumbered? I only ask for Big Dog who is shy.
Can't do that. Despiste the company, I'm a humanitarian at heart, and I know such a photo would cause uncontrollable nausea and vomiting, as has already been made clear in the cave on multiple occasions. I'm only thinking of your well-being, of course.
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Hey, Kid! Welcome back! Um... probably not. You need some think skin over here. Now, point of order, I never said you were ugly. I don't think I'd get into a relationship with you but that's more due to your politics.
Now, let's see...
You politicize everything. You froth at the mouth about the RKBA. You screech at the top of your lungs about women's oppression at the hands of men. You are highly sensitive to anyone putting you down. In short- the average academic in America.
What am I missing? Um... abused by older man while a young child? Serious daddy issues? Manic Depression? Latent homosexuality?
:-*
Glad you came back.
Not manic. Latent homoseuxality, I wish.
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WTF? (snip)
Bla, bla, bla, yada , yada.
Bitch,,,, you got Big Dog all exited. We...I mean he thought you went off board to get some pictures of the girls.
If you can't manage that make me a cheese sammich and get me a beer.
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Live in California.
Male.
Middle-aged.
Have meet many DUmmies in person.
Semi retired. Work part time in a gun shop.
Is all of that part of your DU identity too, or your main one? How many do you have?
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And that's your prerogative. It's when you decide that your "feelings" on guns trump my constitutional right to own guns is where we have the ****ing problem.
Here's my issue: When you decide your constitutional 2nd amendment right trumps the rest of the constitution including my right to life, I have a problem with that. I do not support gun confiscation. I live in a state full of hunters. If I ever get a cabin in the woods, I'll have a gun myself. My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
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Oh my.
She came and went and I didn't notice (on the computer, but busy in real life here).
Damn.
I would've liked to dialogued with her.
Hi Frank,
Minor quibble. I only point it out because I know you pride yourself on precision. I did not ban Skippy from the gun control group. In the brief time I was a host there, I banned ZERO people, none. My sole act as host was to lock a thread calling out the gungeon, and I did so after consultation with the other two hosts. You can tell when NYC_Skp was banned because bans are listed in the order they occurred. You can see that Skippy's is several posters back.
Another point, I did not grab control of the group. The departing host sent me an email and said have a host badge. Then he resigned. He didn't even ask if I wanted to host. I hate to ruin a good story with facts, but that is how it went.
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Is all of that part of your DU identity too, or your main one? How many do you have?
Just one. It's pretty generic. It will fit hundred's of DUmmy profiles. Difference is the part about working in a gun shop. No self respecting DUmmy would admit to that.
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Here's my issue: When you decide your constitutional 2nd amendment right trumps the rest of the constitution including my right to life, I have a problem with that.
What part of me owning a firearm has a ****ing thing to do with your right to life?
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
Yeah, and we already see what those cities turn into when you moonbats start imposing draconian gun control laws on the law-abiding populace, leaving them defenseless against the Democrat-voting thugs running rampant in the cities. High ****ing murder, robbery, and assault rates. Do you know why, toots? Here's a hint:
THUGS DON'T GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT YOU MOONBATS OR YOUR Damn GUN LAWS!
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Jugs hates any Christian or Jew who has a dick or a firearm.
Hey... my dick IS a firearm.
Well, except for the "arm" part...
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A city is where I need a gun the most. Only in a liberal paradise is 500+ murders a year acceptable.
And that is Chicago where the city makes impossible to purchase a legal fire arm.
and why is 500+ murders acceptable in Chicago? Its black on black crime. The white liberal elite cares nothing for that. Mayor Rahm's response? "You can arrest your way out of this problem." So he isn't even interested in getting black criminals off the streets.
Liberal city.
Liberal murder rate.
Liberal problem.
and liberals do...nothing again.
You simply cannot trust a liberal to fight crime. They will only disarm innocent people and ignore the criminal.
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WTF? That is all the typical conservative BS about liberals in general. You have not seen me post on even a fraction of that stuff. I'm not going to indulge that nonsense.
What is sexist about wanting to see rapists prosecuted? What is sexist about opposing domestic abuse? Are you going to tell me a man should be able to force himself on a woman against her will or beat her up if he feels like it? Is that your idea of what a real man does? Those are the issues I post about. If that is your idea of man hating or sexism, that's wacky. Most men are not batterers or rapists. Hating the CRIME of rape and battery and the CRIMINALS who perpetrate it is not hating men.
Back in November, you posted the 'Don't Rape Her' video at DU. If I recall, part of your commentary involved the belief that all men need anti-rape education, as over 90% of rapes have been committed by men. That is a fairly sexist view, as nowhere near a majority of men are rapists.
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And you're not intelligent enough to understand the basis behind the term "progressivism". It's STEEPED in Marxist ideology, dating back to the Bolshevik Revolution, with all the political assassinations, internments camps, quelled freedoms, and everything else that comes along with it. Look at your own ****ing board and how much shit you want banned and how many rights you want quelled. You ****ing idiots are bred to be ruled.
The term progressivism comes from the movement of the early 20th century, which included Teddy Roosevelt. It most decidedly was not Marxist, but it coincided with the October Revolution. I suggest you brush up on your US history survey before lecturing me about how stupid I am. Remember Jane Adams and Hull House? Upton Sinclair and the Jungle?
The use of the term today, however, really has little to do with the Progressive Movement. Much like the word liberal, its current use is the US is quite distant from it's original meaning. Clearly you dislike progressives/liberals, etc... You're a conservative. But guess what? The majority of the country votes AGAINST you and has for several election cycles now. You are a minority in the nation and the GOP appears to be committed to making itself an increasingly smaller minority.
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Back in November, you posted the 'Don't Rape Her' video at DU. If I recall, part of your commentary involved the belief that all men need anti-rape education, as over 90% of rapes have been committed by men. That is a fairly sexist view, as nowhere near a majority of men are rapists.
Progressives are like nazis, they desperately need scapegoats. I think Bainesbane's goal is to criminalize half the population based on mere gender.
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What part of me owning a firearm has a ****ing thing to do with your right to life?
Yeah, and we already see what those cities turn into when you moonbats start imposing draconian gun control laws on the law-abiding populace, leaving them defenseless against the Democrat-voting thugs running rampant in the cities. High ****ing murder, robbery, and assault rates. Do you know why, toots? Here's a hint:
THUGS DON'T GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT YOU MOONBATS OR YOUR Damn GUN LAWS!
She was flat out lying in that post about only wanting to outlaw guns in urban areas. It has been proven conclusively "gun free" zones are udderly (sic) ineffective in preventing gun violence. Like all statists, the "final solution" is confiscation of all weapons except for the state and, I'm sure she sees no problem with that.
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Just one. It's pretty generic. It will fit hundred's of DUmmy profiles. Difference is the part about working in a gun shop. No self respecting DUmmy would admit to that.
California, seriously? Not Wyoming or Texas? Are you a veteran?
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Here's my issue: When you decide your constitutional 2nd amendment right trumps the rest of the constitution including my right to life, I have a problem with that. I do not support gun confiscation. I live in a state full of hunters. If I ever get a cabin in the woods, I'll have a gun myself. My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
Tell you what don't break into our homes or try to harm us in any way and you have nothing to fear from our guns. This notion that gun owners go around shooting people for fun is a stupid leftist talking point dreamt up by idiots who fear guns.
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What part of me owning a firearm has a ****ing thing to do with your right to life?
Yeah, and we already see what those cities turn into when you moonbats start imposing draconian gun control laws on the law-abiding populace, leaving them defenseless against the Democrat-voting thugs running rampant in the cities. High ****ing murder, robbery, and assault rates. Do you know why, toots? Here's a hint:
THUGS DON'T GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT YOU MOONBATS OR YOUR Damn GUN LAWS!
The part about gun makers allowing the guns get into the hands of criminals who then use them to kill people, or shoot up my car. The part about the NRA lobbying against expanded background checks. The part about their working to prevent courts from demanding people with restraining orders turn over weapons, and then those guys go and shoot the wives or girlfriends who have just freed themselves of an abusive relationship. The part about prohibiting limits on magazine sizes so that nut jobs like Alex Laza can take out tons of children without reloading. Those parts. Oh, and Stand Your Ground is totally ****ed. Existing self defense law already enables someone to shoot without retreat if no safe treat exists. SYG enables them to shoot EVEN if s safe retreat exists. That allows unnecessary killing and besides, it's just cowardly.
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The use of the term today, however, really has little to do with the Progressive Movement. Much like the word liberal, its current use is the US is quite distant from it's original meaning. Clearly you dislike progressives/liberals, etc... You're a conservative. But guess what? The majority of the country votes AGAINST you and has for several election cycles now. You are a minority in the nation and the GOP appears to be committed to making itself an increasingly smaller minority.
Once again, you know not a ****ing thing about me, or anyone else on this site. All you DUmbasses can do is project that we want Fascism, lynchings, blacks back on plantations harkening back the days of the Democrat party, etc. I consider myself a "classical liberal". I don't do ****ing party labels, and don't get wrapped up in controlling what anyone else does. This board is not lockstep. That is the mindset and personal ideology of people here. We're not DU where the "tombstone" is as common as conspiracy theories about the BFEE blowing up ****ing levees and single-handedly bringing down towers. It is not the people on this site that are about control.
As for Progressivism, I think it's you that needs to brush up on your history. All I have to do is walk through any number of moonbat rallies and there's a wide array of Marxist publications available. You fools EMBRACE Marxism. You just can't admit you embrace it. Hell, you can't admit anything about your true intentions, even if the lower rung of you don't even know what those intentions are. I assure you, the powers that be in your party do.
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California, seriously? Not Wyoming or Texas? Are you a veteran?
Yes California. I come from back east. I visited LA in the 70's. Came home and made arrangements to make the move permanent.
Not a vet. Never been asked that question at the DUmp so the answer is safe. If someone asks me that question at DU now, I'll lie, or not.
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As opposed to this site, where people wish death on to Democrats and celebrate when an old man like Middle Finger Mom dies. Here people make comments about wishing DUers would kill themselves, etc. Really, you are not in a position to cast stones.
You are in no position to cast stones either. We have some people who say some things if I find repulsive, but even on their worst day, it is still not even close to the hate you DUmpmonkeys have. Just look at the comments you fools post about Sarah Palin's family.
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Whoa. Wait. What?
You're top-heavy.
I never noticed. Really. Cross my heart. On the Head of St. John the Baptist, I never noticed.
I guess I was always too busy enjoying your pleasant, effervescent, bubbly, good-natured persona to notice anything like that.
I wear a very supportive brassiere so it keeps them tucked away nicely. ;)
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A city is where I need a gun the most. Only in a liberal paradise is 500+ murders a year acceptable.
And that is Chicago where the city makes impossible to purchase a legal fire arm.
and why is 500+ murders acceptable in Chicago? Its black on black crime. The white liberal elite cares nothing for that. Mayor Rahm's response? "You can arrest your way out of this problem." So he isn't even interested in getting black criminals off the streets.
Liberal city.
Liberal murder rate.
Liberal problem.
and liberals do...nothing again.
You simply cannot trust a liberal to fight crime. They will only disarm innocent people and ignore the criminal.
Virtually all cities are liberal. Urban areas vote Democratic, while rural, and exurban areas vote Republican. Suburbs are the swing voters. Part of the issue with gun policy is that organizations like the NRA have waged successful lawsuits prohibiting cities from governing themselves in regard to gun policy. They insist on imposing their own policies on municipalities that don't want them. The gun lobby uses the arm of big government to promote profits for gun makers rather than allowing local control.
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The part about gun makers allowing the guns get into the hands of criminals who then use them to kill people, or shoot up my car.
Yeah, lot of that going around. :whatever:
Hey, are you a Eric Holder and Obama supporter? Just a question. ::)
blah blah blah ****ing blah
Oh, and Stand Your Ground is totally ****ed. Existing self defense law already enables someone to shoot without retreat if no safe treat exists. SYG enables them to shoot EVEN if s safe retreat exists. That allows unnecessary killing and besides, it's just cowardly.
Why the **** should I have to run away when someone comes up and threatens to kill or harm me? **** that. Cowardly? At least my ass will be alive. DUmbass. You prefer to create a system where people are terrorized because they're supposed to run away. How about the elderly when they're faced with someone that could be Obama's son who's 60 years younger and fit? Should they try to run away? Yeah, I see that working out real well for the 80 year old.
Logic and common sense aren't your strong suit.
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Yes California. I come from back east. I visited LA in the 70's. Came home and made arrangements to make the move permanent.
Not a vet. Never been asked that question at the DUmp so the answer is safe. If someone asks me that question at DU now, I'll lie, or not.
I would normally caution you about this exchange but, since we are dealing with a moron, I will refrain.
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Virtually all cities are liberal. Urban areas vote Democratic, while rural, and exurban areas vote Republican. Suburbs are the swing voters. Part of the issue with gun policy is that organizations like the NRA have waged successful lawsuits prohibiting cities from governing themselves in regard to gun policy. They insist on imposing their own policies on municipalities that don't want them. The gun lobby uses the arm of big government to promote profits for gun makers rather than allowing local control.
Wrong answer cupcake, the constitution does not get checked at the city gates. The constitution protects the right to keep and bear arms. It says nothing about not being applicable in urban areas. It is not the NRA imposing a whim or a desire, it is about equality under the constitution. You can take your gun bans and shove them up your vagina.
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You know, madam, I really dislike disrailing a thread, but I can't find your comment expressing mystification as to why you've been such a hot topic here.
You're an enigma; I suspect you've been abused by certain men before, but it's clearly a case of misdirected anger when you flail out against men who've never done you any harm, instead of those who have.
Anyway, that's a personal private matter, and you don't have to illuminate on it, any more than one expects the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive to explain away her "Stockholm Syndrome" when it comes to having been used and abused by certain other men.
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What intrigues me more is you seem to be confused as to how others see you; you seem to think we're looking at a couple of, uh, somethings, but we're not.
This is from cousin nadin's #03 Top DUmmie of 2013 award, in case you missed it:
Okay, now sometimes sob-sisters here whine that it’s “not nice†to “make fun of†the way nadin looks.
And to a point, yes, they’re correct; it’s bad taste, and doesn’t reflect well.
However.
However.
However.
The ways in which an individual conducts himself usually determines the ways in which others see that person. Someone who’s physically ugly but pleasant in manner successfully minimizes, or even obliterates, the physical ugliness; one doesn’t see that person as ugly at all.
A smile on any fat woman’s face evaporates about a hundred pounds of her, the way one sees her; a gentleness in her manner magically uncrosses the eyes; a comforting word softly spoken removes a garish blemish.
On the flip side of the coin, someone who’s physically ugly and has a piss-poor attitude to match, well, that exaggerates and exacerbates the physical ugliness, making one appear grotesque.
A good attitude about people and things beautifies one; a sour attitude uglifies one.
Well, as the cousin isn’t exactly known for any pleasantness, for any mellowness, for any laid-backness, for any welcoming acceptance of all those people and ideas coming her way, for any warm self-deprecating humor, for any charity and kindness (although one will admit nadin’s probably kind to animals, especially birds), for any tolerance and the admission that she’s human, fallible, well, one can imagine why people see nadin the ways they do.
It’s her own fault; if she were a more pleasant sort of person, some might even think her aesthetic.
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Tell you what don't break into our homes or try to harm us in any way and you have nothing to fear from our guns. This notion that gun owners go around shooting people for fun is a stupid leftist talking point dreamt up by idiots who fear guns.
I can personally assure you I will never break into your or anyone else's home.
I have to say, I give you credit for standing up to the folks here about the grave dancing on MFM. Please don't be insulted, but you reminded me of myself. Most people go with what others around them say. You stood up for what you believe to be right, and what is right. I admire that quality, even if I disagree with you on just about everything else. I HATE grave dancing. (Except in the case of trolls, not real graves).
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Part of the issue with gun policy is that organizations like the NRA have waged successful lawsuits prohibiting cities from governing themselves in regard to gun policy.
yeah, that pesky 2nd amendment RIGHT. Damn thing gets in the way all the time, doesn't it?
Tell me, what other rights would you want to see quelled? We have the 2nd, we have the 1st with Christians, any more? Maybe the 4th and 5th for "conservatives"?
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I can personally assure you I will never break into your or anyone else's home.
I have to say, I give you credit for standing up to the folks here about the grave dancing on MFM. Please don't be insulted, but you reminded me of myself. Most people go with what others around them say. You stood up for what you believe to be right, and what is right. I admire that quality, even if I disagree with you on just about everything else. I HATE grave dancing. (Except in the case of trolls, not real graves).
Then you have nothing to fear from any of our guns. The guns you have a need to fear are already illegally in the hands of those people.
I always stand up for what I believe.
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I have to say, I give you credit for standing up to the folks here about the grave dancing on MFM. Please don't be insulted, but you reminded me of myself. Most people go with what others around them say. You stood up for what you believe to be right, and what is right. I admire that quality, even if I disagree with you on just about everything else. I HATE grave dancing. (Except in the case of trolls, not real graves).
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And it can be seen by all your comments to your fellow DUmbasses when they grave dance EVERY ****ING WEEK. Sell crazy someplace else.
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As long as my guns will kill fewer people than Fat Teddy Kennedy's Oldsmobile, how about leaving me the **** alone.
And I suppose I shouldn't tell you about the evil black rifle I'm building. Or the suppressor I'm going to get for it.
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Then you have nothing to fear from any of our guns. The guns you have a need to fear are already illegally in the hands of those people.
I always stand up for what I believe.
Great. Now you have the DUmmie moist. Thanks a pant load, Freeper.
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Progressives are like nazis, they desperately need scapegoats. I think Bainesbane's goal is to criminalize half the population based on mere gender.
Clearly some men do need anti-rape education, as some think having sex with a drunk woman doesn't constitute rape. Boys need to be taught how to relate to girls and women, just as girls need to be taught how to relate to boys and men. There is nothing sexist about that.
Men should also be taught to stand up to friends who think sex with passed out girls is okay. It is similar to anti-bullying campaigns, which have been enormously effective. Part of what they target is peer pressure. Some schools have created climates were bullying is completely socially unacceptable. The same should be true of rape, or of situations that guys don't think of as rape but is.
It also bears pointing about that all rape victims are not women. 10% of reported rapes in civil society are men, and a much higher percentage in prison. Combating rape is about combatting a crime. It isn't attacking men. That notion assumes men are by nature rapists, which no rape prevention groups believe and I certainly do not believe that.
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Great. Now you have the DUmmie moist. Thanks a pant load, Freeper.
She doesn't realize I can beat the snot out of my brother and he can beat the snot out if me, but anyone else gets involved and it's on.
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Most people go with what others around them say.
You've got this place confused with DU. Lock step and agreement between posters is very scarce.
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I can personally assure you I will never break into your or anyone else's home.
I have to say, I give you credit for standing up to the folks here about the grave dancing on MFM. Please don't be insulted, but you reminded me of myself. Most people go with what others around them say. You stood up for what you believe to be right, and what is right. I admire that quality, even if I disagree with you on just about everything else. I HATE grave dancing. (Except in the case of trolls, not real graves).
It is trying so hard to make just one friend over here. Well, the answer is right in front of you. I...er...I mean Big Dog will be your friend for life if you'll just bring out those sweater puppies.
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Then you have nothing to fear from any of our guns. The guns you have a need to fear are already illegally in the hands of those people.
I always stand up for what I believe.
Fair enough. Then why oppose background check legislation designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Why keep the ATF from having the tools necessary to track and prosecute illegal gun traffickers? You do realize that most of these laws are in place to protect the profits of the gun lobby, not your gun rights?
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I would normally caution you about this exchange but, since we are dealing with a moron, I will refrain.
What was that about disliking me because I supposedly think I'm smarter than everyone else and consider you all stupid? You forget that this is exactly the kind of thing you said the first time I came yet somehow got bent out of shape that I responded in kind.
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One or two percent of gun owners misuse illegal guns while committing crimes and yet liberals link the other 98% of honest gun owners with the thugs. Liberals can't seem to separate the two.
Conversely, liberals will use the argument that it's only one or two percent of ragheads are terrorists and that the other 98% of muslims shouldn't be linked together with the thugs. Liberals get pissed when accusers can't separate the two.
How are these two argument different?
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And it can be seen by all your comments to your fellow DUmbasses when they grave dance EVERY ****ING WEEK. Sell crazy someplace else.
Right. You can really see how much they care about what I have to say. I mentioned it once in the Margaret Thatcher thread. Now I simply don't read those threads.
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You've got this place confused with DU. Lock step and agreement between posters is very scarce.
Actually that is a characteristic of human nature in general.
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Another BS since my hour restriction has elapsed.
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It is trying so hard to make just one friend over here. Well, the answer is right in front of you. I...er...I mean Big Dog will be your friend for life if you'll just bring out those sweater puppies.
I am trying to be his friend, truly. Earlier is this thread he expressed disgust at my grotesque appearance. I don't want to cause him or anyone else any more distress than necessary. As I understand it, Frank still feels traumatized from seeing that one photo of me. It would be far too cruel to inflict any greater trauma on you folks here.
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Why keep the ATF from having the tools necessary to track and prosecute illegal gun traffickers?
The ATF ARE illegal gun traffickers. They've demontrated numerous times that they feel free to violate the law in pursuit of 'The greater good,' you would have to be insane to trust them with a database of all legal gun transfers, and thus afford them the legal tools to lock it up entirely at the first whim of an imperial administration that was inclined to do so. Of course, Libs actually ARE insane...
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What was that about disliking me because I supposedly think I'm smarter than everyone else and consider you all stupid? You forget that this is exactly the kind of thing you said the first time I came yet somehow got bent out of shape that I responded in kind.
The moron comment was a statement of fact. You can't help it that you are stupid, you were born that way. It's your moral superiority that curdles my cocoa.
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You've got this place confused with DU. Lock step and agreement between posters is very scarce.
I can think of one little thread. :lmao:
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One or two percent of gun owners misuse illegal guns while committing crimes and yet liberals link the other 98% of honest gun owners with the thugs. Liberals can't seem to separate the two.
Conversely, liberals will use the argument that it's only one or two percent of ragheads are terrorists and that the other 98% of muslims shouldn't be linked together with the thugs. Liberals get pissed when accusers can't separate the two.
How are these two argument different?
Do you come out into GD or mainly stay in the Gungeon? Have we personally tangled?
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What is worse, a man raping a woman,
Or a woman knowingly and falsely accusing a man of rape ?
You finally remembered Freeper announcing his disgust with grave dancing.
I don't know of one caver here who condones it.
But then you lumped us all together and said we all did it.
I know I didn't dance on anyone's grave.
As to condemning others, it would have to be an extreme case.
Because libs have the tendency to make accusations with little to no evidence.
By the way, spelunking isn't the only activity or purpose for a cave.
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Do you come out into GD or mainly stay in the Gungeon? Have we personally tangled?
She is so slick.
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Do you come out into GD or mainly stay in the Gungeon? Have we personally tangled?
Rarely in the Gungeon. Too many rethugs there.
Yes we have tangled (written word only).
Why didn't you address my post about the ragheads?
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What intrigues me more is you seem to be confused as to how others see you; you seem to think we're looking at a couple of, uh, somethings, but we're not.
Frank, Maybe just maybe it's because it's all you guys talk about in regard to me?!!
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Right. You can really see how much they care about what I have to say. I mentioned it once in the Margaret Thatcher thread. Now I simply don't read those threads.
And, yet, if you'd have kept on about it, you'd have been warned, had your post alerted, possibly "juried", and, if it got any worse, tombstoned for disturbing the DU Hive. Freep and a few went back and forth. They'll still be friends after that. No alerts, no warnings, no threatened bans for not toeing the line. Nothing. People here have no fear of speaking their minds. You know, "freedom". Try that shit at DU. We see what society would be like if you DUmmies had total control every time we read DU. Hence why we're so adamantly opposed to you authoritarian assholes.
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Frank, Maybe just maybe it's because it's all you guys talk about in regard to me?!!
Well you're the one wagging the damn things in poor Coach's face. Of course we're going to come to his defense.
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What is worse, a man raping a woman,
Or a woman knowingly and falsely accusing a man of rape ?
Hard to say. Both are horrendous.
You finally remembered Freeper announcing his disgust with grave dancing.
I don't know of one caver here who condones it.
Don't condone it. Everyone in that thread on MFM was grave dancing except for freeper, and when s/he (sorry, not sure) objected, you all went after her/him.
But then you lumped us all together and said we all did it.
I know I didn't dance on anyone's grave.
As to condemning others, it would have to be an extreme case.
Because libs have the tendency to make accusations with little to no evidence.
Kinda like everyone here holding me personally responsible for everything they think liberals have ever said.
I don't know who was and wasn't in that thread on MFM. I only recognize a handful of members of this site. I recall Freeper because she took a stand.
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On reflection, I think a false rape accusation is worse, not only because of what it does to the unfairly accused defendant, but because it makes it harder for real rape cases to be successfully prosecuted.
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Rarely in the Gungeon. Too many rethugs there.
Yes we have tangled (written word only).
Why didn't you address my post about the ragheads?
Too many rethugs for a caver. That's saying something. How badly does your DU mole hate me?
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WTF? That is all the typical conservative BS about liberals in general. You have not seen me post on even a fraction of that stuff.
That's why I asked you, instead of quoting you.
So, answer the questions.
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Well you're the one wagging the damn things in poor Coach's face. Of course we're going to come to his defense.
That was truly awful of me, which is why I will not repeat the insult by providing the picture you requested.
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That's why I asked you, instead of quoting you.
So, answer the questions.
That's too much for one day. Pick three and I'll get to them later. I need a break from DU anyway. Believe me, people there hate me a lot more than you folks do. Tucker can confirm that point, I'm guessing.
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That's too much for one day. Pick three and I'll get to them later. I need a break from DU anyway. Believe me, people there hate me a lot more than you folks do. Tucker can confirm that point, I'm guessing.
I think you give yourself too much credit. Perhaps if you went for pity, you might stand a better chance.
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It is trying so hard to make just one friend over here. Well, the answer is right in front of you. I...er...I mean Big Dog will be your friend for life the weekend if you'll just bring out those sweater puppies.
Keeping it honest.
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That's too much for one day. Pick three and I'll get to them later. I need a break from DU anyway. Believe me, people there hate me a lot more than you folks do. Tucker can confirm that point, I'm guessing.
You must be certifiable. I don't see one person here hating on you.
You do understand the difference between hating and criticism, don't you ?
The rest of your fellow libs don't.
They go on and on about racism, and hating, kinda like you, with little to no evidence.
edit?
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Too many rethugs for a caver. That's saying something. How badly does your DU mole hate me?
Way too much information already.
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Keeping it honest.
Now Big Dog. Pissing off the wife isn't worth a weekend of sweater puppies.
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That's too much for one day. Pick three and I'll get to them later. I need a break from DU anyway. Believe me, people there hate me a lot more than you folks do. Tucker can confirm that point, I'm guessing.
Theres your problem. Its right there in front of you. But you can't see it.
You want some free advice? Forget focusing on the fact that people hate you. Stop focusing on which people hate you.
Focus on why some people hate you, and be honest with yourself about what you do to earn it, about why you deserve it.
You can't verry well go around provoking those feelings in people, then complain about it.
Well, actually you can, but we'll just laugh and point.
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I am trying to be his friend, truly. Earlier is this thread he expressed disgust at my grotesque appearance. I don't want to cause him or anyone else any more distress than necessary. As I understand it, Frank still feels traumatized from seeing that one photo of me. It would be far too cruel to inflict any greater trauma on you folks here.
You have me confused with someone else.
This was me. As a rule, I like busty redheads:
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Alex, honey. I knew you'd come back.
It's not that you are physically unattractive. That is a matter of taste.
It's your personality. The closed-mindedness and hatred bakes off you like heat from a South Texas highway.
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You must be certifiable. I don't see one person here hating on you.
You do understand the difference between hating and criticism, don't you ?
The rest of your fellow libs don't.
They go on and on about racism, and hating, kinda like you, with little to no evidence.
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Well you missed the latest shit fest. It was hatred, trust me.
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Way too much information already.
I'm thinking the Lord of the Rings might be important.
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Now Big Dog. Pissing off the wife isn't worth a weekend of sweater puppies.
Not something I have to worry about. I am wife-free.
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Theres your problem. Its right there in front of you. But you can't see it.
You want some free advice? Forget focusing on the fact that people hate you. Stop focusing on which people hate you.
Focus on why some people hate you, and be honest with yourself about what you do to earn it, about why you deserve it.
You can't verry well go around provoking those feelings in people, then complain about it.
Well, actually you can, but we'll just laugh and point.
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I have no doubt much of it is earned. However, a good deal of the criticism focuses on what I choose to post about. That I do not accept.
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It's been fun guys. I've got to get some stuff done. If Frank or anyone else cares to explain to me why you think I hate men, I'd be interested in reading it.
Tiao.
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That's too much for one day. Pick three and I'll get to them later. I need a break from DU anyway. Believe me, people there hate me a lot more than you folks do. Tucker can confirm that point, I'm guessing.
You're not on the clock here. Take your time.
Hint: Each point can can be fully replied to with no more than two sentences.
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I have no doubt much of it is earned. However, a good deal of the criticism focuses on what I choose to post about. That I do not accept.
Yet you have no interest in "not earning it".
A good deal of your criticism has to do with the fact that theres more humility in a cat litter box than anyone can find you expressing.
Anywhere.
Self examination is healthy and necessary to be a well adjusted individual.
Try it sometime.
CMD
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I'm thinking the Lord of the Rings might be important.
Only that they engaged in a game of riddles.
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It's been fun guys. I've got to get some stuff done. If Frank or anyone else cares to explain to me why you think I hate men, I'd be interested in reading it.
Tiao.
I don't speak for anyone else.
I didn't say you hate men. I said you're a sexist. I also said we'd discuss it after you answer the previous questions.
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It's been fun guys. I've got to get some stuff done. If Frank or anyone else cares to explain to me why you think I hate men, I'd be interested in reading it.
Tiao.
You know, this thread should be fairly solid evidence of the difference between liberals and conservatives. How long do you think any one of us this from website would be able to post at DU and go back and forth like this?
I know the answer - less than one hour.
Any person with the least bit of intelligence would come to the conclusion that in your tight little bubble called the democratic underground, only those with the same political leanings are allowed to belong.
Here, we welcome you and we don't revoke your posting privileges until you become abusive, which apparently you did previously.
So again, who is open to debate and discussion? Not the DUmp.
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You know, this thread should be fairly solid evidence of the difference between liberals and conservatives. How long do you think any one of us this from website would be able to post at DU and go back and forth like this?
I know the answer - less than one hour.
Any person with the least bit of intelligence would come to the conclusion that in your tight little bubble called the democratic underground, only those with the same political leanings are allowed to belong.
Here, we welcome you and we don't revoke your posting privileges until you become abusive, which apparently you did previously.
So again, who is open to debate and discussion? Not the DUmp.
She didn't just up and leave because she was tired. She's gone a mole huntin.
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She didn't just up and leave because she was tired. She's gone a mole huntin.
Why did a picture of Elmer Fudd just flash into my mind?
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Fair enough. Then why oppose background check legislation designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Why keep the ATF from having the tools necessary to track and prosecute illegal gun traffickers? You do realize that most of these laws are in place to protect the profits of the gun lobby, not your gun rights?
You want to understand my positions, maybe this will help, think of anytime someone suggests any restriction on abortion. Now tell me how amenable you will be to "common sense laws" for abortion.
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Why did a picture of Elmer Fudd just flash into my mind?
He used a gun.
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she should get udder reduction surgery... maybe its covered under odumbocare?
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Alex,
I am not a Republican, and your choice to vote for a Democrat means nothing to me.
It's your faux elitism coupled with a complete lack of critical thinking ability, casual dismissal of natural and Constitutional rights, and blatant sexism I find repulsive.
I would add though that a comment that stipulates even under torture she would not submit to voting another way says a lot to her own narrow minded thinking in that she is really stipulating that under NO condition, no matter how opposed to human rights or a threat to society her 'party' is, she would vote any other way. That's taking one's political affiliation to damn near religious nuttery proportions. I can think of some other societies in which 'party' came before principal and human interests and those people/societies usually have a very short leap to demonizing their political enemies and making even genocide a-ok. Have fun with that, but consider that some of us 'conservatives' are far more open-minded in our stances then you as a liberal claim to be if you really are asserting such a ridiculous Joan of Arc, clutching of the chest proclamation. I'd also point out you do women a disservice by operating from your grossly emotional standpoint on so many issues, especially guns. You play right into the stereotype of the over-emotional female incapable of logical thought and discussion and I for one find that personally repugnant along with the idea that you would never consider voting based on principal and what is right for the country as a whole over your party.
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She didn't just up and leave because she was tired. She's gone a mole huntin.
You don't need to worry. You could tell me your name right here and it wouldn't matter. Skinner would never PPR someone based on what is said here because he could never trust it. And my knowing who a mole is means exactly nothing.
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I would add though that a comment that stipulates even under torture she would not submit to voting another way says a lot to her own narrow minded thinking in that she is really stipulating that under NO condition, no matter how opposed to human rights or a threat to society her 'party' is, she would vote any other way. That's taking one's political affiliation to damn near religious nuttery proportions. I can think of some other societies in which 'party' came before principal and human interests and those people/societies usually have a very short leap to demonizing their political enemies and making even genocide a-ok. Have fun with that, but consider that some of us 'conservatives' are far more open-minded in our stances then you as a liberal claim to be if you really are asserting such a ridiculous Joan of Arc, clutching of the chest proclamation. I'd also point out you do women a disservice by operating from your grossly emotional standpoint on so many issues, especially guns. You play right into the stereotype of the over-emotional female incapable of logical thought and discussion and I for one find that personally repugnant along with the idea that you would never consider voting based on principal and what is right for the country as a whole over your party.
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Let me clarify. I would not vote for the Republican party in its current manifestation. I do vote on principal, which is why I cannot vote for them. It's not about party ID or tribal identity. It is because I am so firmly opposed to what the modern Republican Party stands for.
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.....I'd also point out you do women a disservice by operating from your grossly emotional standpoint on so many issues, especially guns. You play right into the stereotype of the over-emotional female incapable of logical thought and discussion and I for one find that personally repugnant.....
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The emotional trope is a constant refrain for anyone who considers the importance of human lives and not simply the the precious guns. It's unfounded and itself emotional in that it doesn't deal with any of the concerns I raised having to do with criminals' access to guns, protected by the NRA and the Republican Party.
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Let me clarify. I would not vote for the Republican party in its current manifestation. I do vote on principal, which is why I cannot vote for them. It's not about party ID or tribal identity. It is because I am so firmly opposed to what the modern Republican Party stands for.
I'm opposed to a lot of the modern republican stands for today, I'm opposed to the RINOs who can't wait to help democrats pass amnesty for illegal aliens, I'm opposed to them constantly caving to give Obama what he wants. I'm opposed to the repukes who want to limit guns and those who want to go along with the global warming err global climate change nonsense that the left spews.
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BainesBane...you don't really have a life, do you?
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You want to understand my positions, maybe this will help, think of anytime someone suggests any restriction on abortion. Now tell me how amenable you will be to "common sense laws" for abortion.
There are many, many restrictions on abortions and very few on guns. Abortion rights have been systematically eroded over the past twenty years while gun rights have been expanded. If a woman's body were a gun, she's have far more rights.
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I'm opposed to a lot of the modern republican stands for today, I'm opposed to the RINOs who can't wait to help democrats pass amnesty for illegal aliens, I'm opposed to them constantly caving to give Obama what he wants. I'm opposed to the repukes who want to limit guns and those who want to go along with the global warming err global climate change nonsense that the left spews.
Oh, Rinos like Ronald Reagan. Gotcha.
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Yet you have no interest in "not earning it".
A good deal of your criticism has to do with the fact that theres more humility in a cat litter box than anyone can find you expressing.
Anywhere.
Self examination is healthy and necessary to be a well adjusted individual.
Try it sometime.
CMD
Do I ever agree with this and have had this discussion with many a person before who needed a healthy dose of it. I believe the issue is a larger one and you stated that too--a society and people in it with absolutely no humility.Too many 'perfect' people walking around for too much introspection to go on since those individuals are never wrong and everyone is a hater(hell the gay community is a good example of that behavior in a group-it's mind-boggling to observe it unfold in various discussions).
I love the 'I'm hated because of what I say' thing too. I had a friend call me 'mean' once for merely challenging her thoughts on something decidedly liberal in regards to healthcare, but I did so on MY home page with no reference to her because it is something I had thought of and her posting only encouraged me that now was the time to throw my thoughts on the issue out there. LOL Her total lack of humility chose to see that as 'picking on her' and she was just flabbergasted someone would dare challenge an opinion like her and I was 'mean'(ie a hater--because I had an opposing thought to her own on my own page--I saved her fragile ego from challenging her on her own illogical(and like BB overemotional) thread on the topic because I knew she was hypersensitive). Something tells me she and BB are cut from the same cloth of haughty indignation over daring to be criticized in any way.
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BainesBane...you don't really have a life, do you?
None. That's why I don't get the fascination with me. I am truly a very boring person.
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You don't need to worry. You could tell me your name right here and it wouldn't matter. Skinner would never PPR someone based on what is said here because he could never trust it. And my knowing who a mole is means exactly nothing.
Bull and sh!t
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The emotional trope is a constant refrain for anyone who considers the importance of human lives and not simply the the precious guns. It's unfounded and itself emotional in that it doesn't deal with any of the concerns I raised having to do with criminals' access to guns, protected by the NRA and the Republican Party.
Actually if you listened to what gun owners say, we say there are plenty of laws on the books let's enforce what we have instead of passing a bunch of new laws that punishes gun owners. No law is going to keep a criminal from obtaining a gun. Criminals by definition do not follow laws. A criminal does not see a "gun free zone" sign then say, oh well and go get a hamburger instead.
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Yet you have no interest in "not earning it".
A good deal of your criticism has to do with the fact that theres more humility in a cat litter box than anyone can find you expressing.
Anywhere.
Self examination is healthy and necessary to be a well adjusted individual.
Try it sometime.
CMD
Or I could spend more time around people who aren't freaked out by feminism and women's rights.
I actually do self reflect and seek to improve myself. It won't be in a direction you approve of, but it is for the better.
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The emotional trope is a constant refrain for anyone who considers the importance of human lives and not simply the the precious guns. It's unfounded and itself emotional in that it doesn't deal with any of the concerns I raised having to do with criminals' access to guns, protected by the NRA and the Republican Party.
Oh but madam, I don't discount the value of human lives; in fact, I obviously place a higher value on life than many of your cohorts on Skins's island.
There's many more things that present threats to life than guns.
In this county up here on the roof of Nebraska, I'm probably the only adult male who doesn't own or use firearms, and probably more than half of the femmes own or use firearms, too. If I were to guess--well, I guess I am guessing--there's probably four firearms per firearm-owner here, on the average.
We have crime here, but it's remarkable that the use of a firearm in commission of a crime around here is so rare as to be negligible. I think one person was shot (but lived) circa 1955 or 1956, and the last murder by firearm was w-a-a-a-a-a-y back in 1921.
There's many more things that present threats to life than guns; perhaps it'd be a good idea to examine those other things.
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Oh, Rinos like Ronald Reagan. Gotcha.
Reagan wasn't perfect. However interesting that you brought that up, when amnesty was given did it solve the problem? No it didn't so here we are 20 some years later about to try the same failed policy from back then.
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You don't need to worry. You could tell me your name right here and it wouldn't matter. Skinner would never PPR someone based on what is said here because he could never trust it. And my knowing who a mole is means exactly nothing.
I fully realize that. That's why I gave you some personal information. Skimmer won't touch any secondhand accusation from anyone but a select few.
I discovered that when I was a moderator on DU ll.
You'd be surprised what people PM you in order to get someone banned.
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Bull and sh!t
Hey, if you know how I can convince them to get rid of someone, I'm all ears.
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Or I could spend more time around people who aren't freaked out by feminism and women's rights.
You have taken one step closer to recognizing your own sexism, Alex.
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Let me clarify. I would not vote for the Republican party in its current manifestation. I do vote on principal, which is why I cannot vote for them. It's not about party ID or tribal identity. It is because I am so firmly opposed to what the modern Republican Party stands for.
Well then you would do well to not speak in platitudes like that. You are aware that doing so is overemotional rhetoric not suitable for debate. Now, don't get me wrong, I claim no higher ground since as a fellow human being I too can be guilty be guilty of being over-sensitive on a hot topic too. As a woman, I'm certain too you would not want to advance the stereotype associated with women of being overemotional and not capable of rational discussion.
That said, I would not say I wouldn't vote for someone of another party. I say that because I decide on a case by case basis with regards to both the person standing before me asking for my vote and their character as far as I can ascertain it from what I can find about them AND whether they stand for something I can in good conscience get behind. Generally, I vote based on who holds closest to our US Constitution. With the 2nd Amend. for example, whether I'd personally own guns or not, i would stand for someone pro-2nd amendment because I understand the logic in our Constitution behind what is in it and whole-heatedly agree and understand why the various rights were AFFIRMED(notice I didn't say given--they were AFFIRMED as rights we already have). Should a democrat be more Constitutionally sound then another party, then I would have to consider giving that person my vote if their character reflects one of ethics and morality.
I will try to reply to you too, but I'm going to be running about preparing for the week for my family and work soon so I apologize if I do am not able to respond in a timely manner.
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You have taken one step closer to recognizing your own sexism, Alex.
Seems like I have a lot of homework before I can begin to learn about that.
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There are many, many restrictions on abortions and very few on guns. Abortion rights have been systematically eroded over the past twenty years while gun rights have been expanded. If a woman's body were a gun, she's have far more rights.
I don't see a right to murder your child in the Bill of Rights. Just so you know, abortion is NOT a constitutionally protected right.
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Seems like I have a lot of homework before I can begin to learn about that.
The only homework you need is reading a cookbook and getting back in the kitchen.
Since you already think I'm a sexist, I should act the part.
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I don't see a right to murder your child in the Bill of Rights. Just so you know, abortion is NOT a constitutionally protected right.
It's right next to the wealth redistribution clause.
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Well then you would do well to not speak in platitudes like that. You are aware that doing so is overemotional rhetoric not suitable for debate. Now, don't get me wrong, I claim no higher ground since as a fellow human being I too can be guilty be guilty of being over-sensitive on a hot topic too. As a woman, I'm certain too you would not want to advance the stereotype associated with women of being overemotional and not capable of rational discussion.
That said, I would not say I wouldn't vote for someone of another party. I say that because I decide on a case by case basis with regards to both the person standing before me asking for my vote and their character as far as I can ascertain it from what I can find about them AND whether they stand for something I can in good conscience get behind. Generally, I vote based on who holds closest to our US Constitution. With the 2nd Amend. for example, whether I'd personally own guns or not, i would stand for someone pro-2nd amendment because I understand the logic in our Constitution behind what is in it and whole-heatedly agree and understand why the various rights were AFFIRMED(notice I didn't say given--they were AFFIRMED as rights we already have). Should a democrat be more Constitutionally sound then another party, then I would have to consider giving that person my vote if their character reflects one of ethics and morality.
I will try to reply to you too, but I'm going to be running about preparing for the week for my family and work soon so I apologize if I do am not able to respond in a timely manner.
That was my position before W. He changed everything. I used to vote third party for President. I think I voted for Dave Durenberger for Senator at one point. I voted for Nader in 2000--in Florida, in Palm Beach county, on the butterfly ballot. Massive regret. I vote straight Democrat now. The fact the GOP has gone off the deep end means there is no choice anyway.
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I don't see a right to murder your child in the Bill of Rights. Just so you know, abortion is NOT a constitutionally protected right.
The Supreme Court disagrees. It is the protected law of this land.
I however, have murdered no child. Nor have I ever had an abortion.
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That was my position before W. He changed everything. I used to vote third party for President. I think I voted for Dave Durenberger for Senator at one point. I voted for Nader in 2000--in Florida, in Palm Beach county, on the butterfly ballot. Massive regret. I vote straight Democrat now. The fact the GOP has gone off the deep end means there is no choice anyway.
And the democrats haven't gone off the deep end?
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It's right next to the wealth redistribution clause.
Damn. obama must have snuck that one in while he was on the golf course.
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The Supreme Court disagrees. It is the protected law of this land.
I however, have murdered no child. Nor have I ever had an abortion.
Slavery was once the law of the land, so just because something is law of the land doesn't make it right. Hell we have plenty of immigration laws that get ignored.
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There are many, many restrictions on abortions and very few on guns. Abortion rights have been systematically eroded over the past twenty years while gun rights have been expanded. If a woman's body were a gun, she's have far more rights.
From one woman to another...geez. :thatsright: :thatsright:
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The only homework you need is reading a cookbook and getting back in the kitchen.
Since you already think I'm a sexist, I should act the part.
Actually I am. I'm going to make a pot roast. I'm quite a good cook, in fact.
That answers my question about your sex.
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Damn. obama must have snuck that one in while he was on the golf course.
He used the auto pen just like when he raised taxes.
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The Supreme Court disagrees. It is the protected law of this land.
I however, have murdered no child. Nor have I ever had an abortion.
It's an interpretation of a law. It's not constitutionally protected. The next court, with the right case could rule abortion illegal just like that. Not so easily done with an Amendment.
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The Supreme Court disagrees. It is the protected law of this land.
I however, have murdered no child. Nor have I ever had an abortion.
You'd have to **** a man for that to happen, and I don't see that in your future.
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Actually I am. I'm going to make a pot roast. I'm quite a good cook, in fact.
That answers my question about your sex.
Is that a hint of a sense of humor?
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It's an interpretation of a law. It's not constitutionally protected. The next court, with the right case could rule abortion illegal just like that. Not so easily done with an Amendment.
For an amendment to be legally changed it takes another amendment. Prohibition for example. Luckily for us our founders made it difficult to change the constitution.
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You'd have to **** a man for that to happen, and I don't see that in your future.
I'm sure many DUmmy men would love to share a bed with her, but they aren't actually men.
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Here's my issue: When you decide your constitutional 2nd amendment right trumps the rest of the constitution including my right to life, I have a problem with that.
The right to keep and bear arms is directly derivative from the natural right to life, the natural right of self-defense of life and property, and the civil right to resist and abolish a tyranny. It neither conflicts nor "trumps" the rest of the Constitution.
In other words, your right to life does not trump my right to life, nor my other rights- they are exactly equal.
You may not expect the state to proactively abridge my actual liberty based on your fear of a possible violation of your rights. If I actually threaten your right to life, you have the natural right of self-defense.
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
"Policies" are subordinate to rights.
Your city government may not abridge the rights of individual citizens, no matter how much you want it to.
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Actually I am. I'm going to make a pot roast. I'm quite a good cook, in fact.
That answers my question about your sex.
Pot roast, eh?
If I lived closer, I'd invite myself to supper.
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Amazing--she doesn't seem to be able to take the hint.
Memo to you, :jugs: :yahoo: : You've pretty much lost what little credibility you had by pissing and moaning about us on DU, then coming back here.
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The right to keep and bear arms is directly derivative from the natural right to life, the natural right of self-defense of life and property, and the civil right to resist and abolish a tyranny. It neither conflicts nor "trumps" the rest of the Constitution.
I'd like to add that our rights come from God. We are born with those rights. Not by the benevolence of some politician.
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I'm sure many DUmmy men would love to share a bed with her, but they aren't actually men.
Strap on.
The men of DU follow the rule on my avatar.
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And to counter those people are people like me, a gun pusher. :tongue:
And me- teaching women to become soulless killing machines.
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And me- teaching women to become soulless killing machines.
Same here. Every Saturday.
Does my heart good to see all of these women coming into the range for lessons. Easier to teach than men.
I never realized how many women come to a range unaccompanied just to shoot.
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The emotional trope is a constant refrain for anyone who considers the importance of human lives and not simply the the precious guns.
Liberal, you are no one to ever preach about "the importance of human lives".
It's unfounded and itself emotional in that it doesn't deal with any of the concerns I raised having to do with criminals' access to guns, protected by the NRA and the Republican Party.
What you advocate will not achieve what you say.
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Same here. Every Saturday.
I teach one class a month, except for January and July, when we have a four week "women's only" course. I teach Basic Pistol (week 1) and KS Concealed Carry (week 4), and my friend Scott teaches Personal Protection Inside the Home and Personal Protection Outside the Home.
Does my heart good to see all of these women coming into the range for lessons. Easier to teach than men.
I never realized how many women come to a range unaccompanied just to shoot.
Turning sheep into lionesses!
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Saw the pic of you with on your link ...your fat beer gut playing with your toy soldiers....not impressed.
No I am not sensitive..just not going to take crap from you on every thread I post on.
Bitch slap for being a *****.
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I teach one class a month, except for January and July, when we have a four week "women's only" course. I teach Basic Pistol (week 1) and KS Concealed Carry (week 4), and my friend Scott teaches Personal Protection Inside the Home and Personal Protection Outside the Home.
Turning sheep into lionesses!
I have the good fortune to work at a gun shop with an indoor range. I also do instructions on USPSA shooting.
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Actually I am. I'm going to make a pot roast. I'm quite a good cook, in fact.
That answers my question about your sex.
Only known one person with the vanity to make a statement like that. She, was, of course, anything but and would go ballistic when that was pointed out.
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Seems like I have a lot of homework before I can begin to learn about that.
Here's a little exercise for you. It involves Aristotelian logic, if you're up for it:
Take your sentence, "Or I could spend more time around people who aren't freaked out by feminism and women's rights." and change the two highlighted words to, "Or I could spend more time around people who aren't freaked out by masculism and men's rights."
If the second statement is sexist, then the first is sexist.
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Tucker, if I guess will you tell me? We know nothing can come of it. Perhaps by private message here? I have a guess.
Or could you answer one question: are you known as a pro-2A person on DU? Or do you keep that kind of quiet?
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I have the good fortune to work at a gun shop with an indoor range. I also do instructions on USPSA shooting.
Brother, I'd owe my soul to the company store!
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Here's a little exercise for you. It involves Aristotelian logic, if you're up for it:
Take your sentence, "Or I could spend more time around people who aren't freaked out by feminism and women's rights." and change the two highlighted words to, "Or I could spend more time around people who aren't freaked out by masculism and men's rights."
If the second statement is sexist, then the first is sexist.
Oh, that one. It's a false equivalency. Women are a subaltern group, historically disenfranchised. We are still not yet to an equal playing field with men, though clearly we have come a very long way. There are all kinds of issues that affect women, which is why feminism and women's rights are still important today. It's like comparing the Civil Rights movement to the Klan. They are not comparable. One seeks to lift a group up to equality, the other seeks to keep a minority group down.
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Tucker, if I guess will you tell me? We know nothing can come of it. Perhaps by private message here? I have a guess.
Or could you answer one question: are you known as a pro-2A person on DU? Or do you keep that kind of quiet?
Pro gun.
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Oh, that one. It's a false equivalency. Women are a subaltern group, historically disenfranchised. We are still not yet to an equal playing field with men, though clearly we have come a very long way. There are all kinds of issues that affect women, which is why feminism and women's rights are still important today. It's like comparing the Civil Rights movement to the Klan. They are not comparable. One seeks to lift a group up to equality, the other seeks to keep a minority group down.
Oh, that one. Save that bullshit for the DUmp.
It's a simple argument: If it's wrong to say/do it about A, it's wrong to say/do it about B. You don't get a pass because you call yourself "disenfranchised".
It's not "like comparing the Civil Rights movement to the Klan"; it's like comparing the Black Panthers to the Klan.
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I have a bottle of Bulliet Rye, I think I'll make a Manhattan.
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Oh, that one. It's a false equivalency. Women are a subaltern group, historically disenfranchised. We are still not yet to an equal playing field with men, though clearly we have come a very long way. There are all kinds of issues that affect women, which is why feminism and women's rights are still important today. It's like comparing the Civil Rights movement to the Klan. They are not comparable. One seeks to lift a group up to equality, the other seeks to keep a minority group down.
Yeah you are so oppressed.
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Why is it the most virulent feminists are the least feminine? Certainly not lady like either.
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Why is it the most virulent feminists are the least feminine? Certainly not lady like either.
Because femininity is a prison established by the heteronormative man-ocracy.
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From one woman to another...geez. :thatsright: :thatsright:
Ditto. I am a woman and the mother of young women and I am having a really tough time trying to understand what in the world "feminists" have so much to gripe about. What is it you want to do that you are not already doing? Yes, many years ago, females WERE discriminated against. Women couldn't vote...that was rectified. At one time, females couldn't own land. That is not true now.
You wanted legalized abortion...you got it...and I will tell you that as a woman, nothing is more abhorrent to me that murdering an innocent unborn child. I HATE it. But "feminists" wanted it and they got it. No one is keeping you down, but yourself. Ditch the hate, be the woman God intended you to be and you just might find out how wonderful it is to be a woman. :hammer:
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And me- teaching women to become soulless killing machines.
I approve.
Far sight better than the soulless women that kill their unborn and call it a right.
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Tucker, if I guess will you tell me? We know nothing can come of it. Perhaps by private message here? I have a guess.
Or could you answer one question: are you known as a pro-2A person on DU? Or do you keep that kind of quiet?
Pro gun.
Sucker.
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Oh, that one. Save that bullshit for the DUmp.
It's a simple argument: If it's wrong to say/do it about A, it's wrong to say/do it about B. You don't get a pass because you call yourself "disenfranchised".
It's not "like comparing the Civil Rights movement to the Klan"; it's like comparing the Black Panthers to the Klan.
Was the Civil Rights movement racist? Was the Suffragette movement sexist? If not, at what point did collective action for equal rights become "sexist" or "racist"? What is and isn't appropriate for you? If women want to get together to discuss childrearing is that okay? But if they get together to talk about equal pay for equal work it's not? If they get together to fight for more successful prosecution of rape, is that sexist? How about working to reduce domestic violence? Those are all issues that many feminists care about, and for me they are the most important issues. Don't those issues affect men too? Surely you don't what your daughters and loved ones to be subject to rape or battery? Or yourself even, because men too are raped and battered.
The thing about feminism is that it addresses sexism systemically. It's not about women vs. men. Patriarchy creates a series of burdens for men as well? Why must they bear the burden of war? Why are men expected to behave in narrowly proscribed ways? This is one such example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc45-ptHMxo
A movement toward equality should free both men and women. It's not about men losing because women rise. It's about establishing a more equitable society where everyone shares the responsibilities of work, family, and public service.
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Why is it the most virulent feminists are the least feminine? Certainly not lady like either.
Complete bullshit.
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Sucker.
He knows he's safe. He's been there longer than me. I have no doubt he'd have an easier time getting me bounced that vice versa.
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Was the Civil Rights movement racist? Was the Suffragette movement sexist? If not, at what point did collective action for equal rights become "sexist" or "racist"?
"Equal rights" - equality under the law. Not preference for women because you claim "disenfranchisement."
You are a sexist, and now you're just trying to make excuses for yourself.
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Ditto.
I understand how one can have a moral opposition to abortion. It is a matter of fact, however, that abortion rights have been restricted. Look at Texas? Despite being protected by SCOTUS, abortion is now effectively illegal in Texas. Throughout great swaths of the country it is close to impossible to get an abortion. You can buy and own a gun everywhere.
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"Equal rights" - equality under the law. Not preference for women because you claim "disenfranchisement."
You are a sexist, and now you're just trying to make excuses for yourself.
That's not a serious response. You're smarter than that. I expect better.
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That's not a serious response. You're smarter than that. I expect better.
What you expect is immaterial. I'm already beating your ass on three fronts here, and I haven't even shifted into third gear.
This is my serious response: It's a two-way street. If it is sexist to use the law to favor men at the expense of women, then it is sexist to use the law to favor women at the expense of men. If it is sexist to hire a candidate because he is man, then it is sexist to hire a woman because she is a woman. If it is racist to use the law against Blacks, then it is racist to use the law against Whites.
And I am serious: you are a sexist. You have convinced yourself through the doublespeak of "disenfranchisement" that you are justified, but the fact is that you advocate for legal preferences based on sex, not equality under the law.
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I understand how one can have a moral opposition to abortion. It is a matter of fact, however, that abortion rights have been restricted. Look at Texas? Despite being protected by SCOTUS, abortion is now effectively illegal in Texas. Throughout great swaths of the country it is close to impossible to get an abortion. You can buy and own a guy everywhere.
Can you honestly name one woman who sought to have an abortion and was denied? It is legal in every state. It offends the crap out of me, but that's the way it is. Where is it impossible to get an abortion...name the state, the city. I don't believe that.
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Jugs is about to become a "full member".
:panic:
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Complete bullshit.
Andrea Dworkin. Carol Hanisch. Margaret Cho. Naomi Klein. Naomi Wolf.
Yeah, that's some real class there.
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Not manic. Latent homoseuxality, I wish.
LOL.
You wish you had gay tendencies? Why, if I may ask?
Yeah we all get depressed from time to time, no biggie.
I won't bother you about guns, I know where you stand. I want to ask you about acadamia. I recently watched a documentary on liberalism and higher education. I would ask you that in your school, in your experiences, what was the ratio and % of democrats to republicans on the faculty?
I think that if you and I sat down for a drink we would disagree on almost every single point. But, that doesn't mean we couldn't be cordial. Hell, I wouldn't even try to pay the check.
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The emotional trope is a constant refrain for anyone who considers the importance of human lives and not simply the the precious guns. It's unfounded and itself emotional in that it doesn't deal with any of the concerns I raised having to do with criminals' access to guns, protected by the NRA and the Republican Party.
Are guns more important than human life? Nope. Is crime already illegal? Yup.
So, you are advocating outlawing a legal thing in order to punish criminals? How does that work again?
(I know... I said I wouldn't ask you about guns...)
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Are guns more important than human life? Nope. Is crime already illegal? Yup.
So, you are advocating outlawing a legal thing in order to punish criminals? How does that work again?
(I know... I said I wouldn't ask you about guns...)
Somehow that make sense in their bizarro world
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That's not a serious response. You're smarter than that. I expect better.
Okay, here's a hypothetical for you:
Feminists and liberals (but I repeat myself) love to prattle on about the "equal pay for equal work" canard. But ask yourself, is it really "equal pay" or "equal work"? I'm a hiring manager who is looking to fill a position. Now regardless of the applicant, I'm going to try to employ that person at the lowest possible wage, such is the nature of any business, regardless of the political persuasion of who runs it.
Now who is going to present the better option to me, the person with a steady work history, positions of increasing authority and responsibility, ability to do more of the work the company requires, greater ability to fit what the company needs, less likely to miss work, more likely to stay with the company for a longer time, etc.?
If you said the man, well, now you're just being sexist, aren't you? Cause both men and women can raise children at home, can't they?
Oh, and which administration currently pays women less than 80 percent of what their male counterparts make?
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I understand how one can have a moral opposition to abortion. It is a matter of fact, however, that abortion rights have been restricted. Look at Texas? Despite being protected by SCOTUS, abortion is now effectively illegal in Texas. Throughout great swaths of the country it is close to impossible to get an abortion. You can buy and own a guy everywhere.
Where is it you can buy and own a guy? I could have sworn owning people was illegal.
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You can buy and own a guy everywhere.
Where is it you can buy and own a guy? I could have sworn owning people was illegal.
"Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud."
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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I get sick to death of every "minority" group demanding special rights for themselves. Why is it women can have gyms where no man is allowed, but if men want a club to burp, fart and tell dirty jokes the government says we have to admit women? Why is it a congressional black caucus is allowed, but if anyone wanted a white caucus they would be run out of town? Why is it women can ogle men, but if a man notices a pretty woman he is the devil?
You want equality sister? I'm willing to give it to you I'm more than happy to make you live under the standards you impose on us.
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"Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud."
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
More like DR Howard DR Fine and DR Howard.
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Despite being protected by SCOTUS,
Damn. You're trainable after all.
Abortion is protected by the courts, not the constitution.
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I think we're missing a very salient point here ...
BB, do you have any boobie shots for us? A tight sweater pic or two will do.
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"Equal rights" - equality under the law. Not preference for women because you claim "disenfranchisement."
You are a sexist, and now you're just trying to make excuses for yourself.
You don't appear to have read what I wrote at all. I didn't talk about using the law against men. Unless you are talking about rapists and batterers? Those laws are targeted at the crime, not the gender. Surely you are not suggesting there is something wrong with seeing those criminals prosecuted? 85% of killers are male. Would that make homicide laws sexist? I'm not sure I'm following your point about using the law against men.
I talked about reaching better equality that would benefit both men and women to share responsibilities and rights in society. I talked about how men too are hurt by patriarchy, societal sexism, and provided a link to a video to show it's effects on young boys. That is all part of a feminist movement that seeks not just rights for women but also shared responsibility with men. There is nothing that privileges women over men under the law, or seeks to establish such a position. I understand that feminism has many different manifestations, but I have been clear about what it means to me. Nothing you have criticized is part of any concept of feminism that I support.
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You can buy and own a guy everywhere.
Do you keep one tied up in your basement? I know you're a big guy-control advocate.
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LOL.
You wish you had gay tendencies? Why, if I may ask?
Yeah we all get depressed from time to time, no biggie.
I won't bother you about guns, I know where you stand. I want to ask you about acadamia. I recently watched a documentary on liberalism and higher education. I would ask you that in your school, in your experiences, what was the ratio and % of democrats to republicans on the faculty?
I think that if you and I sat down for a drink we would disagree on almost every single point. But, that doesn't mean we couldn't be cordial. Hell, I wouldn't even try to pay the check.
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In humanities and the sciences, the vast majority are leftists, either Democrat or to the left. In business and economics programs, and other similar sorts of programs, you will find many more Republicans. Social Sciences are primarily Democrats, with the exception of econ, of course.
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Are guns more important than human life? Nope. Is crime already illegal? Yup.
So, you are advocating outlawing a legal thing in order to punish criminals? How does that work again?
(I know... I said I wouldn't ask you about guns...)
I specifically said I would not outlaw guns and that I would own one if I lived in a rural area. I want increased background checks and other provisions to keep guns out of the hands of felons and others adjudicated dangerous. SCOTUS gives the federal government the right to regulate guns and even ban certain types of "exotic weapons' but not handguns. The balance between gun rights and public safety has become skewed, that is in clear opposition to what the majority of Americans want, the majority of Republicans, and even the majority of NRA members, which polling date show support a variety of enhanced gun control provisions.
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Okay, here's a hypothetical for you:
Feminists and liberals (but I repeat myself) love to prattle on about the "equal pay for equal work" canard. But ask yourself, is it really "equal pay" or "equal work"? I'm a hiring manager who is looking to fill a position. Now regardless of the applicant, I'm going to try to employ that person at the lowest possible wage, such is the nature of any business, regardless of the political persuasion of who runs it.
Now who is going to present the better option to me, the person with a steady work history, positions of increasing authority and responsibility, ability to do more of the work the company requires, greater ability to fit what the company needs, less likely to miss work, more likely to stay with the company for a longer time, etc.?
If you said the man, well, now you're just being sexist, aren't you? Cause both men and women can raise children at home, can't they?
Oh, and which administration currently pays women less than 80 percent of what their male counterparts make?
If you are a hiring manager you know the law. You have every right to hire the most qualified person. Not only are you not required to hire a woman less qualified but it is illegal to do so. If, however, your company has a pattern of choosing lesser qualified men or better qualified women, or hiring men because you THINK a woman will miss work due to child care, you open yourself up to lawsuit. You also open yourself up to lawsuit if you pay a man with the same qualifications a higher wage than a woman for the same job . Those are the laws. If you work for a company that takes on federal contracts, you must follow those laws. If you are a private company, the laws still apply but the burden is less and a plaintiff would need to show a clear pattern of discrimination, which is difficult to do. Laws may exclude small companies from some of those requirements, but I'm not sure to what extent.
This are laws established years ago and supported by Republican and Democratic administrations. Affirmative Action is now for all intents and purposes illegal in the US.
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Where is it you can buy and own a guy? I could have sworn owning people was illegal.
Indeed it is. I'm a constant typo generator due to typing and posting too quickly.
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"Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud."
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Aww, Big Dog, are you offering yourself for sale? :heart:
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Do all the DUpes at the DUmp know that they are just a bunch of useful idiots assembled to pay for Skin's and EarlG's lifestyle? By your own definitions Skins is a 1%'er. Between the ads, stars and fund drives etc, he is making a fortune. I've seen the pics, Skins and EarlG and the other one are half grown men-children who if it were not for the DUmp would be living in their parents basements masturbating to Rachel Madcow on TV. Well... on second thought that's probably what they do anyways... lol
EDIT: can you request that Skins comes here to visit us? It would be fantastic research for us all.
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You don't appear to have read what I wrote at all. I didn't talk about using the law against men. Unless you are talking about rapists and batterers? Those laws are targeted at the crime, not the gender. Surely you are not suggesting there is something wrong with seeing those criminals prosecuted? 85% of killers are male. Would that make homicide laws sexist? I'm not sure I'm following your point about using the law against men.
I talked about reaching better equality that would benefit both men and women to share responsibilities and rights in society. I talked about how men too are hurt by patriarchy, societal sexism, and provided a link to a video to show it's effects on young boys. That is all part of a feminist movement that seeks not just rights for women but also shared responsibility with men. There is nothing that privileges women over men under the law, or seeks to establish such a position. I understand that feminism has many different manifestations, but I have been clear about what it means to me. Nothing you have criticized is part of any concept of feminism that I support.
Sigh, Once again I'll make this point in this thread.
You posted this in November.
7. Exactly
Some have taken exception to the fact the law deems such behavior rape, and here they claim men don't need anti-rape education. The contradictions are clear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125528987
You remember it, I'm sure. It started a massive firestorm at DU. Making the case that men need anti-rape education is a sexist position, as just a small minority of men are / will be rapists.
-And just like criminals with guns in gun-free zones, rapists are going to attempt to target victims regardless of what the law says, or what some video he may have been forced to sit through during school told him. The implication of anti-rape education for males only is that being male gives one the predisposition to rape, and the education serves as an attempt to shame a potential rapist in the mix by shaming all males equally.
-I cant help but to wonder how many otherwise healthy males would develop abnormal relationships with women because they are afraid they may end up raping them ?
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I think we're missing a very salient point here ...
BB, do you have any boobie shots for us? A tight sweater pic or two will do.
Hi Dandi.
I did cover this earlier. I'm concerned about Frank not being traumatized again. He still hasn't gotten over seeing that other picture of me. And of course Frank isn't the only one who was made ill, but he seemed to be the most troubled by it. I can't inflict that kind of injury on you folks. It just wouldn't be right.
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You don't appear to have read what I wrote at all. I didn't talk about using the law against men. Unless you are talking about rapists and batterers? Those laws are targeted at the crime, not the gender. Surely you are not suggesting there is something wrong with seeing those criminals prosecuted? 85% of killers are male. Would that make homicide laws sexist? I'm not sure I'm following your point about using the law against men.
I talked about reaching better equality that would benefit both men and women to share responsibilities and rights in society. I talked about how men too are hurt by patriarchy, societal sexism, and provided a link to a video to show it's effects on young boys. That is all part of a feminist movement that seeks not just rights for women but also shared responsibility with men. There is nothing that privileges women over men under the law, or seeks to establish such a position. I understand that feminism has many different manifestations, but I have been clear about what it means to me. Nothing you have criticized is part of any concept of feminism that I support.
Knock off the bullshit, Alex. I read it.
"Reaching better equality" is a handful of Jello. It can't be nailed down. And as long as it can't be nailed down, you can claim victim status and excuse your own sexism, and that of your confederates.
Equality can only exist as equality under the law. Literally nothing else about any two people is "equal", nor can it be. Returning to Aristotelian logic, A =/= non-A.
Equality under the law can only exist when each person is considered individually, not as a member of a group. Women and racial minorities do receive preferential treatment under the law. Federal (DOJ) interference and lower standards for minorities in the hiring practices of cities; selective investigation and prosecution of "hate crime" laws by the DOJ (reflecting your attitude that "only men/whites/straights can commit hate crimes"); and the reduction or elimination of physical fitness standards among the Armed Forces by regulation (which carry the force of law) are three examples.
You support so-called "equal opportunity" laws which disproportionately favor members of "disenfranchised" groups. Since we are talking specifically about sex-based preferences, that is sexist, but the principle applies to race-based preferences as well.
You support special treatment for special people, based on group identity. Martin Luther King would weep at the way you and your kind have perverted his dream.
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Do you keep one tied up in your basement? I know you're a big guy-control advocate.
I'm sure that will be a source of amusement for some time.
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Do all the DUpes at the DUmp know that they are just a bunch of useful idiots assembled to pay for Skin's and EarlG's lifestyle? By your own definitions Skins is a 1%'er. Between the ads, stars and fund drives etc, he is making a fortune. I've seen the pics, Skins and EarlG and the other one are half grown men-children who if it were not for the DUmp would be living in their parents basements masturbating to Rachel Madcow on TV. Well... on second thought that's probably what they do anyways... lol
EDIT: can you request that Skins comes here to visit us? It would be fantastic research for us all.
I've not the best person to convey messages to him. You might try Tucker or one of your other long term moles.
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Ditto. I am a woman and the mother of young women and I am having a really tough time trying to understand what in the world "feminists" have so much to gripe about. What is it you want to do that you are not already doing? Yes, many years ago, females WERE discriminated against. Women couldn't vote...that was rectified. At one time, females couldn't own land. That is not true now.
You wanted legalized abortion...you got it...and I will tell you that as a woman, nothing is more abhorrent to me that murdering an innocent unborn child. I HATE it. But "feminists" wanted it and they got it. No one is keeping you down, but yourself. Ditch the hate, be the woman God intended you to be and you just might find out how wonderful it is to be a woman. :hammer:
^H5
As much as I hate abortion, I also hate what the radical feminists are doing to the men in this country. I wonder how many of these women have ever been wives and mothers of sons. As far as equality goes, I also think women have had it a lot better. You would think, according to feminists, that the traditional roles of men and women, all women were slaves to their husbands and fathers, when nothing could be further from the truth. That is not the natural or instinctive role men play in women's lives, nor is it the natural roles of women to be submissive objects and treated like doormats. I find most men to be respectful and protective of women, which, as a woman, I happen to like.
I could go on and on about this subject, but you get my point.
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Hi Dandi.
I did cover this earlier. I'm concerned about Frank not being traumatized again. He still hasn't gotten over seeing that other picture of me. And of course Frank isn't the only one who was made ill, but he seemed to be the most troubled by it. I can't inflict that kind of injury on you folks. It just wouldn't be right.
I know. But they're like Mt. Everest, or should I say, Mt. Everests.
I want to scale them just because they're there.
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^H5
As much as I hate abortion, I also hate what the radical feminists are doing to the men in this country. I wonder how many of these women have ever been wives and mothers of sons. As far as equality goes, I also think women have had it a lot better. You would think, according to feminists, that the traditional roles of men and women, all women were slaves to their husbands and fathers, when nothing could be further from the truth. That is not the natural or instinctive role men play in women's lives, nor is it the natural roles of women to be submissive objects and treated like doormats. I find most men to be respectful and protective of women, which, as a woman, I happen to like.
I could go on and on about this subject, but you get my point.
Thanks to feminism, being a homemaker is now a choice for you, not a requirement.
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Knock off the bullshit, Alex. I read it.
"Reaching better equality" is a handful of Jello. It can't be nailed down. And as long as it can't be nailed down, you can claim victim status and excuse your own sexism, and that of your confederates.
Equality can only exist as equality under the law. Literally nothing else about any two people is "equal", nor can it be. Returning to Aristotelian logic, A =/= non-A.
Equality under the law can only exist when each person is considered individually, not as a member of a group. Women and racial minorities do receive preferential treatment under the law. Federal (DOJ) interference and lower standards for minorities in the hiring practices of cities; selective investigation and prosecution of "hate crime" laws by the DOJ (reflecting your attitude that "only men/whites/straights can commit hate crimes"); and the reduction or elimination of physical fitness standards among the Armed Forces by regulation (which carry the force of law) are three examples.
You support so-called "equal opportunity" laws which disproportionately favor members of "disenfranchised" groups. Since we are talking specifically about sex-based preferences, that is sexist, but the principle applies to race-based preferences as well.
You support special treatment for special people, based on group identity. Martin Luther King would weep at the way you and your kind have perverted his dream.
EEOC laws do not privilege women and minorities. They make it illegal to discriminate and create hostile work environments. Sex and race based preferences have been struck down by the courts. They no longer exist. Your information is out of date.
Bullshit on your MLK comment.
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You remember it, I'm sure. It started a massive firestorm at DU. Making the case that men need anti-rape education is a sexist position, as just a small minority of men are / will be rapists.
-And just like criminals with guns in gun-free zones, rapists are going to attempt to target victims regardless of what the law says, or what some video he may have been forced to sit through during school told him. The implication of anti-rape education for males only is that being male gives one the predisposition to rape, and the education serves as an attempt to shame a potential rapist in the mix by shaming all males equally.
-I cant help but to wonder how many otherwise healthy males would develop abnormal relationships with women because they are afraid they may end up raping them ?
Why would a healthy male be afraid of raping a woman? All he needs is her consent. If she is drunk to the point of incoherence or passed out, she cannot give her consent, but then men who assault women in such circumstances are not interested in healthy relationships.
Your question strikes me as odd. It's not at all difficult to know if a woman wants to have sex with you. She behaves eagerly. Perhaps you need to wait a bit longer until she feels comfortable enough to be eager. Is that such a bad thing?
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Can you honestly name one woman who sought to have an abortion and was denied? It is legal in every state. It offends the crap out of me, but that's the way it is. Where is it impossible to get an abortion...name the state, the city. I don't believe that.
Yes, many, many women. I'll have to hunt up more detailed information on this at another time.
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Thanks to feminism, being a homemaker is now a choice for you, not a requirement.
That's also a bunch of crap. How many working moms would love to stay home with their kids, but because of the economy they can't? Telling women they can "have it all", that they can "fry up the bacon and bring it home too" is one of the worst things feminists have given their sisters.
There was a time in this country when the average middle class family could survive on one income. Can't do it today, if you want to own a home, two cars, put the kiddies through college etc.
The NATURAL roles of men and women have been diluted to the point of having a screwed up society, fatherless homes and kids being raised by their nanny's, stuck in institutions from the time they are six weeks old and left to their own devices.
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That's also a bunch of crap. How many working moms would love to stay home with their kids, but because of the economy they can't? Telling women they can "have it all", that they can "fry up the bacon and bring it home too" is one of the worst things feminists have given their sisters.
There was a time in this country when the average middle class family could survive on one income. Can't do it today, if you want to own a home, two cars, put the kiddies through college etc.
The NATURAL roles of men and women have been diluted to the point of having a screwed up society, fatherless homes and kids being raised by their nanny's, stuck in institutions from the time they are six weeks old and left to their own devices.
That more women cannot stay home is indeed due to economic changes, but that is not the fault of feminism. Wages have declines in this country since the 1970s. That is a result of the decline of unions, deindustrialization, and outsourcing.
Your argument about natural roles is false. Such roles are culturally constructed. That is evident by the great differences in distribution of labor in different societies across geography and history. You may be happy with the role of homemaker, which is your choice. But what if you had not been so wise in your choice of husband? In past generations, women stayed in abusive marriages because they had no other economic options. They were kept from most jobs. Now women at least have the right to work if they choose. What is so terrible about that?
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Yes, many, many women. I'll have to hunt up more detailed information on this at another time.
Oh the horror women not able to murder their offspring.
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That more women cannot stay home is indeed due to economic changes, but that is not the fault of feminism. Wages have declines in this country since the 1970s. That is a result of the decline of unions, deindustrialization, and outsourcing.
Your argument about natural roles is false. Such roles are culturally constructed. That is evident by the great differences in distribution of labor in different societies across geography and history. You may be happy with the role of homemaker, which is your choice. But what if you had not been so wise in your choice of husband? In past generations, women stayed in abusive marriages because they had no other economic options. They were kept from most jobs. Now women at least have the right to work if they choose. What is so terrible about that?
Well seems to me, unions and the government, the EPA, have made industry much more expensive since the 1970s, but I'm sure it's all Bush's fault.
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Well seems to me, unions and the government, the EPA, have made industry much more expensive since the 1970s, but I'm sure it's all Bush's fault.
Do you have evidence to support that assumption? And can you show how it might have led to decreasing wages?
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The emotional trope is a constant refrain for anyone who considers the importance of human lives and not simply the the precious guns.
No. Just no.
You have deliberately framed the argument as "guns versus human lives".
Spare me the bullshit of "thats how I see it".
You've framed it this way, so that you can point at others and whine "they care for their guns more than human lives". Its a form of trying to pin a view on someone who doesn't hold it, and to shame and silence those who disagree with you on that issue. It seems to me you were castigated heavily by long time DUmmies on the island for doing just that in a recent but now now locked thread in which you deleted your OP.
Let me check to make sure...
Yup:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024310566
How do I know thats what you're doing? Simple:
First, you don't actually know any of those DUmmies even half well enough to try to pin that position on them. All you really know, is that they disagree with you on that particular issue, and that warrants, in your opinion, your actions in framing it the way you do, and making the insinuations, both stated and unstated, that you make.
Second, you have a habit of doing that, as the thread I linked to demonstrates. DUmmies that have been on the island ten years longer than you or longer, rubbed your nose in it. Are you going to sit here and tell us they're all wrong but you're right?
Third, it may not have occured to you, but most people who give more than a passing care about gun rights have seen this before, and you aren't coming up with anything new. It reminds me of how offspring number one always tried to put something over on the parents, but could never figure out how we knew what was being done. You aren't coming up with anything novel, untried, or new.
So yeah, guilty as charged, you.
It's unfounded and itself emotional in that it doesn't deal with any of the concerns I raised having to do with criminals' access to guns, protected by the NRA and the Republican Party.
No, its completely founded. Thats how you anti-gun types operate. Furthermore, what concerns you have, that I have seen on this issue, are based on false dogmatic understandings on your part of the issue itself. Your concerns are overblown, completely based on emotion, focused like a laser beam on the exception rather than the rule, and based on ideological dogma.
About the NRA...Like the NRA or not, they're here to stay. I laugh every time I see one of you DUmmies complain about the NRA, or suggest that such organizations be outlawed, because not a one of you have given so much as a single solitary neuron firings worth of thought to the unintended consequences of a world without them.
CMD
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There are many, many restrictions on abortions and very few on guns.
If I have ever seen something more ignorant in print, it sure isn't coming to mind right now.
This is why you earn so much of the "hate" you get...Because you try to speak authoritatively about things you know nothing about, and then demonstrate to everyone you're speaking to that you know nothing about that which you speak, all in the same sentence.
I'm not saying you're always that efficient, but I suspect its rather habitual with you. Its obvious when someone speaks authoritatively whether or not they don't know what they don't know, to people that do. What is it you got your PHD in? African studies? Something along those lines? Doesn't matter. Whatever it was, if someone came along and was attempting to speak authoritatively on it, but had no ****ing clue what they were talking about, you'd view them a certain way. Call them out on it. Point and laugh. Make fun of them. Wonder how someone could possibly try to do something so stupid, and so stupidly obvious, and not expect anyone to notice.
That, is what you just did in your above quote.
CMD
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You can buy and own a gun everywhere.
If you look into that you will find otherwise. Up until recently you could not own a gun if you lived in Chicago and the laws are still very restrictive.
We get it, you do not like guns and you are pro choice.
You are more then welcome to express those views here.
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If I have ever seen something more ignorant in print, it sure isn't coming to mind right now.
This is why you earn so much of the "hate" you get...Because you try to speak authoritatively about things you know nothing about, and then demonstrate to everyone you're speaking to that you know nothing about that which you speak, all in the same sentence.
I'm not saying you're always that efficient, but I suspect its rather habitual with you. Its obvious when someone speaks authoritatively whether or not they don't know what they don't know, to people that do. What is it you got your PHD in? African studies? Something along those lines? Doesn't matter. Whatever it was, if someone came along and was attempting to speak authoritatively on it, but had no ****ing clue what they were talking about, you'd view them a certain way. Call them out on it. Point and laugh. Make fun of them. Wonder how someone could possibly try to do something so stupid, and so stupidly obvious, and not expect anyone to notice.
That, is what you just did in your above quote.
CMD
You have a lot of insults and nothing else. You are factually wrong, so much so it's startling, I gave you a simple statement of fact. That you haven't bothered to inform yourself on abortion restrictions is obvious, probably because you refuse to read any decent news source. You can buy a gun in virtually every town and county in America while abortion restrictions have increased at a rapid pace thanks to your party's efforts to impose big government on women's bodies.
Abortion was at the forefront of the state legislative debate during the past three years -- so much so that states added more restrictions to the books from 2011-2013 than during the entire preceding decade, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit reproductive health research organization that tracks such things.
More than 200 abortion restriction laws were passed and signed into law from 2011 to 2013, according to Guttmacher's data. That's a very sharp uptick from the pace of the previous decade: From 2001 to 2010, 189 such laws were enacted , the data show.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2014/01/clip_image002.jpg
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/01/02/the-rapid-surge-of-state-abortion-restrictions-in-one-chart/
During this same period, gun rights have expanded. Shall issue concealed carry has systematically expanded throughout the nation. Chicago's gun ban was struct down. The gun lobby has continued to increase influence, with some exceptions in CT, CO and a few other places.
That is one article. Someone who thinks himself as superior as you should have no trouble to do a google search to inform yourself on the subject.
You're obviously a mole with an ax to grind against me. Get over it. You're not half as smart as you think you are.
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Do you have evidence to support that assumption? And can you show how it might have led to decreasing wages?
You're kidding right? You have to have this explained to you how it effects both? Really?
ETA: Took all of 30 seconds of a generic google search of "cost effects of epa regulation" to find this.
This is just the effect of the new draconian regulations they have in story for the coal industry in 2014.
Employment falls by nearly 600,000 jobs.
Manufacturing loses over 270,000 jobs.
Coal-mining jobs drop 30 percent.
A family of four’s annual income drops more than $1,200 per year, and its total income drops by nearly $24,400 over the entire period of analysis.
Aggregate gross domestic product (GDP) decreases by $2.23 trillion over the entire period of the analysis.
http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/2013/12/10/economic-consequences-of-epa-power-plant-regulations/
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There are many, many restrictions on abortions and very few on guns.
There are roughly 20,000 laws on the books regulating firearms.
How many on abortion?
Yeah that's what I thought.
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You are factually wrong, so much so it's startling, I gave you a simple statement of fact.
Then you should have no problem providing a credible factual link then right?
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Chicago's gun ban was struct down
Umm...that would be struck down...Doctor.
:whatever:
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I talked about reaching better equality
And who exactly gets to determine what is equal and what isn't?
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I love it when a lib runs out of taking points in an argument. Then it's time to bring out the big persuasion guns with retorts like "That's complete bullshit".
By libs I mean Bane.
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You have a lot of insults and nothing else. You are factually wrong, so much so it's startling, I gave you a simple statement of fact. That you haven't bothered to inform yourself on abortion restrictions is obvious, probably because you refuse to read any decent news source. You can buy a gun in virtually every town and county in America while abortion restrictions have increased at a rapid pace thanks to your party's efforts to impose big government on women's bodies.
During this same period, gun rights have expanded. Shall issue concealed carry has systematically expanded throughout the nation. Chicago's gun ban was struct down. The gun lobby has continued to increase influence, with some exceptions in CT, CO and a few other places.
Heres your "simple statement of fact":
"There are many, many restrictions on abortions and very few on guns."
The problem is, it isn't a fact. You think it is, because you don't know what you don't know. You are unaware of what you're ignorant of.
Let us know, when slapping someone, being caught with an illegal drug, being involuntarily committed, convicted of a felony at the state or federal level, convictions in foreign courts, become abortion prohibiting offenses.
Let us all know when a federal government bureaucracy is created to police abortion the same way as ATF polices guns - kicking down doors, shooting dogs and stomping kittens.
Let us all know the next time the ATF runs an ATF flag up the pole immediately after burning down an abortion clinic, right after a 51 day standoff over illegal abortions.
Let us all know when some abortions require the age of 18 and others the age of 21.
Let us know when chewing your pop tart into the shape of an abortion gets any kids suspended from school.
Let us all know the next time you have to get a background check to get an abortion.
Let us all know the next time some abortions are consider "special" and require a tax stamp.
I could go on.
There are over 20 THOUSAND state federal and local gun laws.
I doubt there are one fifth as many laws having to do with abortion.
Also, you're confusing legal success - Chicago gun ban being struck down, Heller, McDonald, with removal of a significant number of gun laws. It isn't. What those cases did, was affirm a constitutional right, and place significant roadblocks in the way of those who wish to infringe on that right, such as people like you. Boo ****in hoo ::). What you call "expanded", we here in the fact based real world, call "forced to stop ignoring the bill of rights".
In America, one could ALWAYS buy a gun in nearly every town in America. Before 1994 prior to one of those laws that was passed, which you seem to think doesn't exist, there were no background checs AT ALL.
Prior to 1968, there were no restrictions on felons or mail order firearms.
Prior to 1934 one could own machineguns sawed off shotguns, explosive devices, and so forth, with ZERO licensing registration or oversight.
That is one article. Someone who thinks himself as superior as you should have no trouble to do a google search to inform yourself on the subject.
You're obviously a mole with an ax to grind against me. Get over it. You're not half as smart as you think you are.
Don't you just wish you had that alert button? Do you has a sad? :bawl:
As to "superior", I'm far less educated than you are in the formal sense. Far far less. But I make it a point to know what the hell I'm talking about, when it comes to subjects which I think are important or interesting enough to comment on in a meaningful way. Particularly when its subjects that can land an individual in jail if that individual does not follow the law.
And this...is oh so rich. You telling me to inform myself after claiming there are more abortion restrictions in America than gun restrictions.
If you had any idea how wrong you were you'd apologize hourly to every living creature the planet for for saying something so stupid, and embarrassing every last one of them by virtue of sheer proximity.
CMD
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I love it when a lib runs out of taking points in an argument. Then it's time to bring out the big persuasion guns with retorts like "That's complete bullshit".
By libs I mean Bane.
They think if they thow out all of their talking points and memes in one big barrage we'll never be able to counter all of it.
Then they realize how easy it is to swat away their crap and they're left with retorts like the one you quoted.
It's simply the difference between seeing things factually versus through the prisim of emotions...which is what all Libtard "facts" are based in.
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Why would a healthy male be afraid of raping a woman? All he needs is her consent. If she is drunk to the point of incoherence or passed out, she cannot give her consent, but then men who assault women in such circumstances are not interested in healthy relationships.
Your question strikes me as odd. It's not at all difficult to know if a woman wants to have sex with you. She behaves eagerly. Perhaps you need to wait a bit longer until she feels comfortable enough to be eager. Is that such a bad thing?
You didn't address the main point.
Is making the assertion that all men need anti-rape education sexist ? Yes, or no.
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Do you have evidence to support that assumption? And can you show how it might have led to decreasing wages?
Still waiting for your evidence that gazillions of women are being denied the right to murder their offspring.
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You're kidding right? You have to have this explained to you how it effects both? Really?
ETA: Took all of 30 seconds of a generic google search of "cost effects of epa regulation" to find this.
This is just the effect of the new draconian regulations they have in story for the coal industry in 2014.
http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/2013/12/10/economic-consequences-of-epa-power-plant-regulations/
You have to remember she is a student of obamanomics, she believes that increased overhead magically produces more jobs. She believes the more we tax, regulate and raise the min wage the more jobs there will be.
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You have to remember she is a student of obamanomics, she believes that increased overhead magically produces more jobs. She believes the more we tax, regulate and raise the min wage the more jobs there will be.
Kenyesian economics is a proven failure. Too bad out Troll, Ph D. doesn't realize that.
Next thing you'll know she'll try to convince us that the Government can create wealth.
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Kenyesian economics is a proven failure. Too bad out Troll, Ph D. doesn't realize that.
Next thing you'll know she'll try to convince us that the Government can create wealth.
Libs like "Bela" Pelosi not only believe that, but broadcast that belief at any opportunity.
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Libs like "Bela" Pelosi not only believe that, but broadcast that belief at any opportunity.
Exactly! That whole unemployment compensation creates jobs and hels the economy bullshit. How they say that crap with a straight face is beyond me.
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Considering that her DUmmie buddy "fitman" has not been on this thread, kicking her ass for running him off of DU, I'm not convinced Alexandra has come for a visit. This poster is not nearly as foaming at the mouth stupid as our favorite Hooters madame.
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I just remembered this. Alex, you didn't write this, did you?
PIV = "penis in vagina." It took a group of us modern women on Facebook to figure out what the hell that meant. Whoever wrote this certainly has some issues.
http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/
Just to recall a basic fact: Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple.
This is a developed recap from what I’ve been saying in various comments here and there in the last two years or so. as a radfem I’ve always said PIV is rape and I remember being disappointed to discover that so few radical feminists stated it clearly. How can you possibly see it otherwise? Intercourse is the very means through which men oppress us, from which we are not allowed to escape, yet some instances of or PIV and intercourse may be chosen and free? That makes no sense at all.
First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women. Only men experience rape as sexual and define it as such. Sex for men is the unilateral penetration of their penis into a woman (or anything else replacing and symbolising the female orifice) whether she thinks she wants it or not – which is the definition of rape: that he will to do it anyway and that he uses her and treats her as a receptacle, in all circumstances – it makes no difference to him experiencing it as sexual. That is, at the very least, men use women as useful objects and instruments for penetration, and women are dehumanised by this act. It is an act of violence.
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Well seems to me, unions and the government, the EPA, have made industry much more expensive since the 1970s, but I'm sure it's all Bush's fault.
Hell, even in Obamalamadingdong's administration, it's been proven that women are paid less than men.
Why isn't the collective of DU feminazis up in arms over that?
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Here's my issue: When you decide your constitutional 2nd amendment right trumps the rest of the constitution including my right to life, I have a problem with that. I do not support gun confiscation. I live in a state full of hunters. If I ever get a cabin in the woods, I'll have a gun myself. My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
Wow. A DUmmie just proclaimed there's a right to life.
:panic:
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Wait, wait, wait... I just caught this, probably due to the fact I've been up for almost 30 hours and am able to think like a DUmmy.
First, A-S states:
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
Then later, as an example:
You can buy a gun in virtually every town and county in America while abortion restrictions have increased at a rapid pace thanks to your party's efforts to impose big government on women's bodies.
Anyone catch the difference? When it comes to guns, cities (and I assume other constituencies such as counties) should have the right to be able to restrict firearms ownership to whatever they deem necessary. But when it comes to abortion, that right suddenly disappears. Why is that? If an enumerated right can be restricted based on societal mores, why not other, derived rights?
Shall we play a game?
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own gun policies.
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own abortion policies.
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own marriage policies.
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own voting policies.
My issue is that cities are very different from rural areas and we should be able to determine our own immigration policies.
Based on what I know of DUmmies, only the first one is permitted while the others are forbidden. How does that work? Rights are rights, so if you wish one to be negotiable (not the word I want, but I can't think... cause you know, sleep deprived) then by extension all must be. Or you're a hypocrite.
It's a zero-sum game. All or nothing.
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Hell, even in Obamalamadingdong's administration, it's been proven that women are paid less than men.
Why isn't the collective of DU feminazis up in arms over that?
Just for you.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/special/583b3df0.jpg)
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It's about establishing a more equitable society where everyone shares the responsibilities of work, family, and public service.
Work? On the democrat plantation work is optional because you keep your voters stuffed with cash and handouts. Work my @ss.
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It's about establishing a more equitable society where everyone shares the responsibilities of work, family, and public service.
I'll just bet this is an accurate characterization of the "equitable" part of your "equitable society": "From each according to his or her ability, to each according to his or her needs."
Tell me I'm wrong.
CMD
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Say, you guys are getting especially mean lately. I wonder if I can just go ahead and stipulate that I'm deformed, hideously ugly and totally un****able, will you then let up a bit?
This doesn't make any sense. If someone had issues with what we do, then to draw even more attention to it happening to them would be counterproductive.
So what's this really all about, Alex?
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^H5
As much as I hate abortion, I also hate what the radical feminists are doing to the men in this country. I wonder how many of these women have ever been wives and mothers of sons. As far as equality goes, I also think women have had it a lot better. You would think, according to feminists, that the traditional roles of men and women, all women were slaves to their husbands and fathers, when nothing could be further from the truth. That is not the natural or instinctive role men play in women's lives, nor is it the natural roles of women to be submissive objects and treated like doormats. I find most men to be respectful and protective of women, which, as a woman, I happen to like.
I could go on and on about this subject, but you get my point.
I do get your point, Dori, and I agree. I also think that the pendulum has perhaps swung too far the other way. Yes, women should be treated fairly and equitably, but so should men. (Yes, I will admit it. I happen to like men, in particular, the one I married.)
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If I have ever seen something more ignorant in print, it sure isn't coming to mind right now.
This is why you earn so much of the "hate" you get...Because you try to speak authoritatively about things you know nothing about, and then demonstrate to everyone you're speaking to that you know nothing about that which you speak, all in the same sentence.
I'm not saying you're always that efficient, but I suspect its rather habitual with you. Its obvious when someone speaks authoritatively whether or not they don't know what they don't know, to people that do. What is it you got your PHD in? African studies? Something along those lines? Doesn't matter. Whatever it was, if someone came along and was attempting to speak authoritatively on it, but had no ****ing clue what they were talking about, you'd view them a certain way. Call them out on it. Point and laugh. Make fun of them. Wonder how someone could possibly try to do something so stupid, and so stupidly obvious, and not expect anyone to notice.
That, is what you just did in your above quote.
CMD
That is what blew me away, CMD. Many, many, restrictions on abortion? I'm still waiting to hear WHERE she is talking about. If women were being denied abortions, NOW, the DOJ, Miss Hillary, Madame Pelosi, most of the Senate and the entire Obama administration would be suing any medical facility that even tried to pull that.
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When you decide your constitutional 2nd amendment right trumps the rest of the constitution including my right to life
Clearly you don't understand that the 2nd Amendment protects your "right to life".
Without the 2nd Amendment the rest of the Constitution would have been tossed out a long time ago.
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You have a lot of insults and nothing else. You are factually wrong, so much so it's startling, I gave you a simple statement of fact. That you haven't bothered to inform yourself on abortion restrictions is obvious, probably because you refuse to read any decent news source. You can buy a gun in virtually every town and county in America while abortion restrictions have increased at a rapid pace...
If there were ever a being on this planet that could type a response so full of ignorant, sophomoric, vapid solipsisms, I would be hard pressed to look past you to find them. How, in the name of Almighty God, you could arrogantly claim so much intelligence and sophistication while simultaneously displaying the obvious vacuum in your head is beyond me. I can only surmise that the wind whistling as it passes from one ear to the next drowns out anything that may reach your bubble.
The Second Amendment was conceived, debated, and ratified on the premise of the right of the individual to protect themselves as well as serve as a means of national self defense; hence the term "militia" as it is written into the text. As codified, it is an unalienable right to the individual as well as a safeguard, and means to protect, the rest of the Bill of Rights. It is the height of hyper emotional babble to suggest that somehow recognizing an individual's defense of their natural state of being (free) is somehow trumping your "right to life". The Second Amendment is the ultimate recognition of the "right to life".
You somehow conflating a direct "right" as codified into our Founding Document is similar to a fabricated right to privacy from the Fourteenth Amendment is as laughable as it is stupid. If you were even half as aware of that which you claim, you would know damn good and well that the "justicability" of a woman's right to privacy as it applies to abortion was deliberately left in the hands of the States. Nowhere, in any of your words or the stupid ass chart you linked, can you show where any woman's right to privacy was abridged, though I do welcome you to try.
During this same period, gun rights have expanded. Shall issue concealed carry has systematically expanded throughout the nation. Chicago's gun ban was struct down. The gun lobby has continued to increase influence...
A direct right, as spelled out in our Founding Documents, can be either recognized or abridged - never "expanded". Suggestion otherwise shows an at best tenuous grasp on how our government is supposed to work and a fundamental disconnect of any common sense.
...with some exceptions in CT, CO and a few other places.
Those "other places" would be New York and Maryland. The good people of Colorado are going to show Hickenlooper and the liberal trash something really neat this coming November; New York is well on its way to having a good chunk of that stupid gun grab invalidated; Connecticut liberals may find themselves in for a bloody fight in the coming years; and Maryland... Well, I hope O'Malley has enjoyed his time in the spotlight.
thanks to your party's efforts to impose big government on women's bodies.
Congratulations, Alexandra. Your male, democrat masters applaud your recognition of your place in their society - reduced to the value of your parts.
You're obviously a mole with an ax to grind against me. Get over it.
Yeah, because there's no possibility that you could ever possibly be wrong, could it? Has to be a DUmmie gun nut that is "stalking" you... :whatever:
You're not half as smart as you think you are.
The same could be said of some others on this thread, dear. ;)
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Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:00 AM
Star Member BainsBane (22,346 posts)
A weird thing happened to me tonight
I was at the grocery store tonight and a guy said to me: "Do you want to make more money than you do in your current job? I live on Cedar. I can help you market your assets."
"My assets," I asked incredulously.
I turned to walk away. I didn't say much because I wasn't even sure what had happened. I'm not exactly young anymore. My "assets" are middle-aged.
I don't think anyone has propositioned me for paid sex since I was 14. I didn't know what to do.
Response to Arcanetrance (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:38 AM
Star Member BainsBane (22,346 posts)
7.
The other thing about stripping is what happens as you age. There isn't much call for menopausal strippers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125521362#post7
Looks like the "call" came and you walked away from it, Alexandra.
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Aw, man. I missed out.
All I can say is that Alex has given us an object lesson in the distinction between sophistry and intelligence.
See if you can guess what she's shown here.
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I don't do grave dancing and have said I don't like it, but usually I just skip those threads.
I do so love how you come in here (if it actually is you, Alexandra), and pretend to clutch some mantle of moral purity in regards to, well, pretty much anything.
You can hold me accountable for anything and everything I say, but not for some DU collective opinion you assume everyone holds.
I have something I want to show you, dear:
Response to Lone_Star_Dem (Original post)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:03 PM
Star Member BainsBane (22,346 posts)
56. This doesn't look good for the country
I was hoping they would be some fringe domestic group because then the fallout would be less significant. Imagine all the shit Fox and the Repugs are going to raise if these guys turn out to be Muslim. The fear mongering and finger pointing is going to be intense.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022702986#post56
Don't participate in grave dancing? The jury is still out on that one, but has rendered a "guilty" verdict of rolling in the blood of the innocent to score some type of bullshit political point.
Incidentally, dear - this is one of the many comments to which I could point that makes you "un****able". The sick hate that bleeds through your skin has more to do with your desirability than your fading looks.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I guess we can add "catty bitch" to your resume as well, huh?
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That is what blew me away, CMD. Many, many, restrictions on abortion? I'm still waiting to hear WHERE she is talking about. If women were being denied abortions, NOW, the DOJ, Miss Hillary, Madame Pelosi, most of the Senate and the entire Obama administration would be suing any medical facility that even tried to pull that.
There's definitely a lot of restrictions on abortions... I mean there have only been 55 million abortions performed in the United States since Roe v. Wade. Without those pesky right wingers and their attempts to eliminate late-term abortions, we could be celebrating 100 to 200 million abortions.
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I'm starting to share the doubters as to the actual identity if our chew toy. I have a solution.
:picsneeded:
Edit to add: Do it for the children Alex.
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I mean there have only been 55 million abortions performed in the United States since Roe v. Wade. Without those pesky right wingers and their attempts to eliminate late-term abortions, we could be celebrating 100 to 200 million abortions.
That's a strange situation. There have been tens of millions of murdered children, the vast majority of whom would have grown up to be moonbat voters, since abortion is so rare among responsible families.
To replace their murdered babies in the electorate, democrats want to bring in millions of mexicans. If they took responsibility for their children, they wouldn't need illegal mexicans.
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That's a strange situation. There have been tens of millions of murdered children, the vast majority of whom would have grown up to be moonbat voters, since abortion is so rare among responsible families.
To replace their murdered babies in the electorate, democrats want to bring in millions of mexicans. If they took responsibility for their children, they wouldn't need illegal mexicans.
I guess it's a catch-22. If these aborting liberals had been ethical and decided to give these children up for adoption, there's a strong chance that conservative families would have adopted many of them. Instead they thought the more ethical method was to suck the babies brains out or dismember it inside their wombs.
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Now this old lady needs to waddle in.
To my surprise Louisiana law in the 70's was still under Neapolitan law.
All children born to a woman were the property of the fathers. All property the wife had belonged to the husband--in other words a husband could sell the wife's family home without telling her. he could legally throw her out of her inherited home and take her children.
When a marriage took place, all money or inheritance were transferred to the husband. Pre Nups were few and little known at the time.
Yes this was states rights to make their laws.
So what the heck is this Liberal bitchin about ?
Then the fact that few workers have time to even think on who they are going to vote for is a strange thing.
Does anyone think those on welfare spend time watching the news ??
Do we expect a factory worker to come home after 10 hours of work to give a crap what is going as long as they have their job ??
I don't know here I am going here, but I do hope this poster responds to me.
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You're kidding right? You have to have this explained to you how it effects both? Really?
ETA: Took all of 30 seconds of a generic google search of "cost effects of epa regulation" to find this.
This is just the effect of the new draconian regulations they have in story for the coal industry in 2014.
http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/2013/12/10/economic-consequences-of-epa-power-plant-regulations/\
That is an assertion, not evidence. Additionally, coal is one of many industries.
Wages are a key issue. Some Republicans want to abolish the minimum wage so that we can compete with third world countries in terms of labor costs. What do you think that will do to the the average wage and ability of women to be homemakers?
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There are roughly 20,000 laws on the books regulating firearms.
How many on abortion?
Yeah that's what I thought.
So is it the number of laws or how easy it is to acquire a gun or an abortion? Do you need to submit to a transvaginal ultrasound before buying a gun? Do you need to travel hundreds of miles? No and no. It's not even close.
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I love it when a lib runs out of taking points in an argument. Then it's time to bring out the big persuasion guns with retorts like "That's complete bullshit".
By libs I mean Bane.
Libs? That must be why you all need an imposed (or self-imposed) hour break before each proclamation of "bullshit."
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You didn't address the main point.
Is making the assertion that all men need anti-rape education sexist ? Yes, or no.
I don't think there is an assertion that "all men need rape education." Rather that society, and men and women generally, benefit from such education, just as we benefit from anti-bullying campaigns. I did address this issues earlier in the thread.
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Libs? That must be why you all need an imposed (or self-imposed) hour break before each proclamation of "bullshit."
Not all of us.
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Some Republicans want to abolish the minimum wage so that we can compete with third world countries in terms of labor costs.
Provide evidence.
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There's definitely a lot of restrictions on abortions... I mean there have only been 55 million abortions performed in the United States since Roe v. Wade. Without those pesky right wingers and their attempts to eliminate late-term abortions, we could be celebrating 100 to 200 million abortions.
Score.
Awesome!
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Whoa. I just noticed something.
She's currently the leading poster on conservativecave, and by a wide margin.
Top 10 Poster This week
93 anti-spelunker
63 obumazombie
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36 Mr Mannn
36 Tucker
25 franksolich :argh:
23 liana
21 wasp69
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Clearly you don't understand that the 2nd Amendment protects your "right to life".
Without the 2nd Amendment the rest of the Constitution would have been tossed out a long time ago.
I'm still waiting for the reply to this.
I'd also like to see a quote from the Constitution that recognizes abortion as a right.
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The most offensive thing about Jugs is her use of an American flag as an avatar.
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"Equal rights" - equality under the law. Not preference for women because you claim "disenfranchisement."
You are a sexist, and now you're just trying to make excuses for yourself.
You know, BD, you're not the first to say this:
Response to BainsBane (Reply #66)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 07:22 PM
MADem (96,140 posts)
72.
I DO get to tell you what is a worse offense for a woman; you can disregard what I say, or not, but you are not my censor. And you really need, IMO, to stop acting like you are the Net Nanny and Board Censor for everything " female gender related" on this board, because you're not that--and you also need to just appreciate the fact that you don't come off well at all when you start dramatic threads like this one. And just because you INSIST that the W-word or the S-word or the B-word are "women's words," doesn't mean that's true. If you're going to get outraged about "gender slurs," you'd better get busy on firing up some outrage against the "D" word and the "Pr" word, too--otherwise we'll have to conclude that you have a gender bias. And don't even try telling me "It's not the same" because if we're going to work towards a goal of equality for all, it's not right to insult people because they can deal with it or they haven't been insulted as much up to now. You'd better start walking the walk, or be prepared to be regarded as a hypocrite.
You ask questions of the "When did you stop beating your children?" variety. There's no winning to answer one of your "questions." They're always phrased in the form of an accusation. I'm sick of them, frankly, and I'll bet I'm not alone. So perhaps YOU need to save some of that bullshit, yourself, instead of giving me advice you won't take yourself.
Most DUers--the overwhelming majority, in fact, save the trolls, shit-stirrers, and bullshit artists-- are not sexists, misogynists or women haters, though to listen to you, you'd think the joint was infested with them. You pick apart people's words, point at them, and bellow "J'ACCUSE!!!!!" like you are the arbiter here--well, let me tell you--you aren't. You have an opinion, like everyone else--and we all know what opinions are like.
For example, this thread is just a shit stir. It's META, it's whining about DU, and it isn't appropriate for GD. Of course, it's also a massive train wreck, so it draws gawkers, myself included, to my great shame. Yes, I'm guilty of taking the shitty bait you dangled. I'm already regretting it. I do wonder, though, if in order to read DU every day, I have to continue to trash dozens of threads like this one--it's getting to the point where the board is overloaded with bullshit-poutrage that isn't really an issue for most of us who identify as Democrats and other progressives.
The ass whoopin' DUmmie Alexandra got from MADem was pretty epic in that thread. A brief sampling:
Response to MADem (Reply #72)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 08:06 PM
Star Member quinnox (18,757 posts)
84. +1000. You just summed up almost every post
made by that one. And they aren't the only one from that sub-group who specializes in the "questions" technique, which are just thinly veiled accusations. Its definitely a slimy and noxious way to pollute the Du atmosphere, that is for sure. Running around threads accusing duers of being horrible things if they don't agree with someone seems to be a specialty, but I think you are not the only one who notices and finds it pretty tiresome and like you said, bullcrap.
Response to MADem (Reply #89)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 09:22 PM
Star Member BainsBane (22,355 posts)
90. I'll make this brief and save you time
Last edited Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:30 PM - Edit history (4)
Anyone who thinks he has a right to determine what I can think and feel is someone I have no interest in discussion with, period.
Response to BainsBane (Reply #90)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 09:52 PM
MADem (96,140 posts)
96. You're stuck on transmit, aren't you?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024310566#post72
:lmao:
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The most offensive thing about Jugs is her use of an American flag as an avatar.
H5! If she posts at the Dummocrat Underground, she's anti-American.
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H5! If she posts at the Dummocrat Underground, she's anti-American.
She hates American exceptionalism, but still wants to use an American flag as her avatar. The only things she loves about this country are unfettered abortions and same-sex marriages.
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She hates American exceptionalism, but still wants to use an American flag as her avatar. The only things she loves about this country are unfettered abortions and same-sex marriages.
Something like this might be more appropriate.
(http://bittsandbytes.net/COLLECTIBLES/MoonshineJugs_SMALLER.jpg)
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Something like this might be more appropriate.
(http://bittsandbytes.net/COLLECTIBLES/MoonshineJugs_SMALLER.jpg)
Looks like the nipple, err, cork blew off of one of those jugs.
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Looks like the nipple, err, cork blew off of one of those jugs.
The one on the right was cold.
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Whoa. I just noticed something.
She's currently the leading poster on conservativecave, and by a wide margin.
How in the hell did I make the list?
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The one on the right was cold.
:rofl: Nice.
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Complete bullshit.
Not bullshit. All the "feminists" I see at DU and at moonbat protests look like stand-ins for the Star Wars bar scene.
(http://www.layoutlocator.com/graphics/dldimg/51e370b1fc797fd37335e99808cc75a0_hooters-protest.jpg)
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Just to recall a basic fact: Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple.
First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women.
I am shocked a female with a fud; supposedly wrote this. Basic biology says otherwise. When a female becomes sexually stimulated, the vulva engorges exposing the clitoris and the abundance of nerves to friction. A normal womanfinds intercourse intensely pleasurable. To think otherwise is abnormal. Perhaps you have an abnormal vulva or clitoris, but thinking all of womanhood does not enjoy intercourse shows your ignorance on the subject. Possibly you have fallen for the lesbian meme and have never experienced intercourse properly?
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6.54 million pistols, revolvers, rifles, shotguns and other firearms made in America in 2011, an additional 3.25 million were brought in from other countries, according to records of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
In all, almost 9.4 million new guns were sold in America in 2011 when domestic and imported firearms are combined, an increase from 8 million in 2010. After adding in resales of guns made in prior years, which the Small Arms Survey estimated at 1.5 million for 2010, the total number of guns sold in a given year gets close to 11 million.
The number of abortions executed by Planned Parenthood shown in the counters come from PP's Annual Reports. They reported 329,445 in 2010 and 333,924 in 2011.
The Guttmacher Institute, which periodically surveys U.S. abortion providers, reported Tuesday that there were 1.21 million abortions in 2008 and a rate of 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44
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This is troubling...
Top 10 Poster This week
93 anti-spelunker
63 obumazombie
53 Big Dog
50 Bad Dog
49 Freeper
36 Mr Mannn
36 Tucker
25 franksolich
23 liana
21 wasp69
Some on on their post in "CC job" thread said they were a post whore.
I now know I need to step up.
Anyone else ?
edit:+
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This is troubling...
Top 10 Poster This week
93 anti-spelunker
63 obumazombie
53 Big Dog
50 Bad Dog
49 Freeper
36 Mr Mannn
36 Tucker
25 franksolich
23 liana
21 wasp69
Some on on their post in "CC job" said they were a post whor.
I now know I need to step up.
Anyone else ?
I just discovered that feature of CC. I've been here for how many years, and either never knew it existed, or forgot about it. :shrug:
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Libs? That must be why you all need an imposed (or self-imposed) hour break before each proclamation of "bullshit."
There you go again.
PS, I am stepping up my game.
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I guess it's a catch-22. If these aborting liberals had been ethical and decided to give these children up for adoption, there's a strong chance that conservative families would have adopted many of them. Instead they thought the more ethical method was to suck the babies brains out or dismember it inside their wombs.
You know there are more unwed mothers and people living out of wedlock in red areas than blue? There are also more divorces. I don't know about the stats regarding abortion, but I would be very surprised if self identifies liberals had them more than conservatives. Seems like we hear pretty often of some prominent conservative or evangelical that tries to force a woman into having an abortion. Given that so many also oppose birth control, it seems to me they are more interested in controlling women than preventing abortion. The most effective way to eradicate abortion is to make it so no one needs or wants one by preventing unwanted pregnancies.
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You know there are more unwed mothers and people living out of wedlock in red areas than blue? There are also more divorces. I don't know about the stats regarding abortion, but I would be very surprised if self identifies liberals had them more than conservatives. Seems like we here pretty often of some prominent conservative or evangelical that tries to force a woman into having an abortion. Given that so many also oppose birth control, it seems to me they are more interested in controlling women than preventing abortion. The most effective way to eradicate abortion is to make it so no one needs or wants one by preventing unwanted pregnancies.
Because all sex is rape.
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Allow me to move the goal posts. have you managed to quell the insurrection in your own back yard yet?
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Seems like we here pretty often of some prominent conservative or evangelical that tries to force a woman into having an abortion.
That should be hear, Doc.
CMD
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Provide evidence.
Evidence that Republicans want to end the minimum wage? Do you never read the newspaper?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/lamar-alexander-minimum-wage_n_3498975.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43474.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/objectivist/2013/03/27/to-protect-the-defenseless-we-must-abolish-the-minimum-wage/
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/06/26/2216671/republican-senator-calls-for-abolishing-the-minimum-wage/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/08/fox-guest-slams-the-minimum-wage-abolish-the-black-teenage-unemployment-act/
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/upcoming-debates/item/853-abolish-the-minimum-wage
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That should be hear, Doc.
CMD
Point well made. That PHD seems to be piled higher and deeper.
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You know there are more unwed mothers and people living out of wedlock in red areas than blue? There are also more divorces. I don't know about the stats regarding abortion, but I would be very surprised if self identifies liberals had them more than conservatives. Seems like we here pretty often of some prominent conservative or evangelical that tries to force a woman into having an abortion. Given that so many also oppose birth control, it seems to me they are more interested in controlling women than preventing abortion. The most effective way to eradicate abortion is to make it so no one needs or wants one by preventing unwanted pregnancies.
The old controlling women argument.
There are several feminazis at DU who would blast you big time for even suggesting a method of reducing abortions.
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Libs like "Bela" Pelosi not only believe that, but broadcast that belief at any opportunity.
Keynesian economics is meant for periods of severe economic downturn only. It has not been proven a failure since we have not used it since the Great Depression. If you are talking about demand side vs. supply side, you should say as much. We, however, have not had demand side policies since the Clinton era. Our tax system remains supply side because it exists as it did under Bush. The system of incentives is also supply side. Government spending is down substantially under Obama, due in no small part to Republicans of course, but you can't claim this administration as an example of a failure of either Keynesian or demand side economics.
As for a PhD, I don't know what you think that means, but it is a degree based on speciality in specific discipline and narrow subfield. It does not mean a person knows everything about everything.
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Keynesian economics is meant for periods of severe economic downturn only. It has not been proven a failure since we have not used it since the Great Depression. If you are talking about demand side vs. supply side, you should say as much. We, however, have not had demand side policies since the Clinton era. Our tax system remains supply side because it exists as it did under Bush. The system of incentives is also supply side. Government spending is down substantially under Obama, due in no small part to Republicans of course, but you can't claim this administration as an example of a failure of either Keynesian or demand side economics.
As for a PhD, I don't know what you think that means, but it is a degree based on speciality in specific discipline and narrow subfield. It does not mean a person knows everything about everything.
Government spending is not down, in fact once we start shelling out all the subsidies for Obamacare spending is going to increase even further.
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I just remembered this. Alex, you didn't write this, did you?
PIV = "penis in vagina." It took a group of us modern women on Facebook to figure out what the hell that meant. Whoever wrote this certainly has some issues.
http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/
No, I did not write that, and you must have the name of the poster who did. So why are you trying to claim it was me?
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You're not who we might think you are.
Bain simply is not smart enough to make these arguments.
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Bush41, Clinton, Bush43, and Obama are all Keynesians and have relied upon the Keynesian model. The beef with Keynesians is we didn't inject enough money into the system, not that we didn't follow the model at all.
And I've never heard "Keynesian economics is meant for periods of severe economic downturn only." I'm pretty sure John Maynard Keynes would be surprised to hear that.
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The most offensive thing about Jugs is her use of an American flag as an avatar.
Why? Where in the constitution does it say someone isn't American who doesn't vote for the party you happen to like?
All your avatars were sports teams and military symbols. The flag at least applied. You'd be a damned sight more offended if I used a US Marine
Corps avatar, and that offense would actually be justified. I'm every bit as American as you are.
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There's definitely a lot of restrictions on abortions... I mean there have only been 55 million abortions performed in the United States since Roe v. Wade. Without those pesky right wingers and their attempts to eliminate late-term abortions, we could be celebrating 100 to 200 million abortions.
What a load of shit. Late term abortions were rare, and generally only used in cases where the life of the mother was in jeopardy. I know the idea that women's lives mean anything is an anathema to many conservatives, but some women think they shouldn't have to die because a bunch of old men want to play politic is with their lives.
Where are these abortion numbers from? They get batted around a lot, but how are they collected? What is the original source for the numbers?
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/125521362#post7
Looks like the "call" came and you walked away from it, Alexandra.
Women age. It's horrible they allow it to happen. What solution do you propose? Putting us down at 30?
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You know there are more unwed mothers and people living out of wedlock in red areas than blue?
Someone hasn't checked the demographics of abortion victims' parents, vs. demographics of the democrat party.
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You know, BD, you're not the first to say this:
The ass whoopin' DUmmie Alexandra got from MADem was pretty epic in that thread. A brief sampling:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024310566#post72
:lmao:
Complete with fabricated quotes. You applaud someone lying and making shit up to attack another person because he can't find actual evidence, that is your problem. So now we know who your mole is. I'm so shocked. ::)
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Keynesian economics is meant for periods of severe economic downturn only. It has not been proven a failure since we have not used it since the Great Depression. If you are talking about demand side vs. supply side, you should say as much. We, however, have not had demand side policies since the Clinton era. Our tax system remains supply side because it exists as it did under Bush. The system of incentives is also supply side. Government spending is down substantially under Obama, due in no small part to Republicans of course, but you can't claim this administration as an example of a failure of either Keynesian or demand side economics.
As for a PhD, I don't know what you think that means, but it is a degree based on speciality in specific discipline and narrow subfield. It does not mean a person knows everything about everything.
In order to be awarded a PHD, you must have completed a Masters program.
To be awarded a Masters, you must have completed a Baccalaureate. In order to have completed a Bachelors, you would have to have graduated high school or equivalent.
Leaving out whatever writing skills you would have had to demonstrate prior to your Masters, once you finish your Masters, you would have written a thesis.
To complete your PHD, you would have written a dissertation.
Neither your thesis nor your dissertation would have been accepted if you exhibited the writing skills you have shown since you have been on this forum.
Therefore a logical person would conclude your claims of having a PHD could only mean whatever you have is only on the order of piled higher and deeper.
Does this enlighten you further ?
Whoever you think you're fooling doesn't include me. That's for certain.
I have faith that all of my fellow cavers are not fooled by you either.
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Keynesian economics is meant for periods of severe economic downturn only.
John Maynard Keynes didn't think so.
Why do you?
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:yawn:
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Government spending is not down, in fact once we start shelling out all the subsidies for Obamacare spending is going to increase even further.
Evidence?
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John Maynard Keynes didn't think so.
Why do you?
I like where you are going with this !
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You know, BD, you're not the first to say this:
The ass whoopin' DUmmie Alexandra got from MADem was pretty epic in that thread. A brief sampling:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024310566#post72
:lmao:
For the record, I am not MADem. The only ass-whoopin' I'm giving Alex is right here.
:asssmack:
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Evidence?
Surely after your previous false claims you are not now claiming your field of studies includes economics.
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You're not who we might think you are.
Bain simply is not smart enough to make these arguments.
:rofl: Okay, then who am I? And why would I be pretending to be BainsBane?
This should be interesting.
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:rofl: Okay, then who am I? And why would I be pretending to be BainsBane?
This should be interesting.
What, libs lying ?
You think thats an anomoly ?
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Someone hasn't checked the demographics of abortion victims' parents, vs. demographics of the democrat party.
By all means, enlighten me. I would guess there would be some correlation with income level since women with financial means are more able to support children.
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In order to be awarded a PHD, you must have completed a Masters program.
To be awarded a Masters, you must have completed a Baccalaureate. In order to have completed a Bachelors, you would have to have graduated high school or equivalent.
Leaving out whatever writing skills you would have had to demonstrate prior to your Masters, once you finish your Masters, you would have written a thesis.
To complete your PHD, you would have written a dissertation.
Neither your thesis nor your dissertation would have been accepted if you exhibited the writing skills you have shown since you have been on this forum.
Therefore a logical person would conclude your claims of having a PHD could only mean whatever you have is only on the order of piled higher and deeper.
Does this enlighten you further ?
Whoever you think you're fooling doesn't include me. That's for certain.
I have faith that all of my fellow cavers are not fooled by you either.
It's worse than that. I write for a living. When I'm online I write very fast and post quickly, which is how I have racked up so many posts on your site. It's a symptom of impulsivity. Believe me, when something is for a finished work document, it doesn't have a single typo. I don't hold myself up to exacting standards when I'm writing off the clock. In fact, grammar police drive me around the bend.
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Alex, you still have some questions (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93917.0/msg,1180845.html) to answer.
To those, I'll add one more: How was the pot roast?
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Keynesian economics is meant for periods of severe economic downturn only. It has not been proven a failure since we have not used it since the Great Depression. If you are talking about demand side vs. supply side, you should say as much. We, however, have not had demand side policies since the Clinton era. Our tax system remains supply side because it exists as it did under Bush. The system of incentives is also supply side. Government spending is down substantially under Obama, due in no small part to Republicans of course, but you can't claim this administration as an example of a failure of either Keynesian or demand side economics.
As for a PhD, I don't know what you think that means, but it is a degree based on speciality in specific discipline and narrow subfield. It does not mean a person knows everything about everything.
A little research would keep you leftists from looking like the idiots you are.
2008 Federal,last year of the Bush administration.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown_2008USrf_15rs5n
2013 with Odumbo.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown_2013USrf_15rs5n
2008 total of all governments.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown_2008USrt_15rs5n
2013 total.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown_2013USrt_15rs5n
Idiot.
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Well grammar police might be just what the doctor ordered.
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John Maynard Keynes didn't think so.
Why do you?
I'll confess. I read it somewhere from someone who sounded like he knew what he was talking about. I could well be wrong. I have not read Keynes and managed to never take a single econ course, much to my shame. I did have to learn some economic history. As miserable as I found it, I understood why it was necessary.
It will come to no surprise to anyone here, but I have read Marx, including Das Kapital, but that was many years ago.
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By all means, enlighten me. I would guess there would be some correlation with income level since women with financial means are more able to support children.
When I was a younger woman with an income level where I could barely support myself, let alone a baby, the last thing I'd do would be to allow myself to become impregnated. Why aren't parents and liberal indoctrination centers (aka public schools) teaching young women about the dangers of unprotected sex?
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For the record, I am not MADem. The only ass-whoopin' I'm giving Alex is right here.
:asssmack:
Not you, the mean one, WASP.
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I will give Alex one concession. She(?) doesn't driveby post much.
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Evidence?
Show me your evidence that spending went down. Every year the budget increases, it has not decreased once. The accounting gimmicks both sides used in the continuing resolutions did not cut spending.
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Surely after your previous false claims you are not now claiming your field of studies includes economics.
I never said that. Not once.
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:rofl: Okay, then who am I? And why would I be pretending to be BainsBane?
This should be interesting.
Why not, either way I don't really care.
I have read enough of her stuff to understand she is not the sharpest tool in the shed and that's fine.
Personally, I find you standing your ground better then Bain is doing on the island but is just me so, you go female !
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I'll confess. I read it somewhere from someone who sounded like he knew what he was talking about. I could well be wrong. I have not read Keynes and managed to never take a single econ course, much to my shame. I did have to learn some economic history. As miserable as I found it, I understood why it was necessary.
It will come to no surprise to anyone here, but I have read Marx, including Das Kapital, but that was many years ago.
I'm certain you have a shrine to Marx in your bedroom.
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I'll confess. I read it somewhere from someone who sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
I know who you're talking about, but I now ignore Krugman for being the fool that he is.
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Alex, you still have some questions (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93917.0/msg,1180845.html) to answer.
To those, I'll add one more: How was the pot roast?
Thanks for the link. I won't have to dig back through. The pot roast came out okay eventually. I had a few issues because I used a new pressure cooker, which I had never done before. I put too much liquid in so had to reduce it down to give it adequate flavor. I also didn't have enough wine because I only picked up one of those little bottles. It's okay now, but not my best effort.
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I never said that. Not once.
You have more than insinuated it from your constant reference to Keynes.
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What, libs lying ?
You think thats an anomoly ?
What if I'm a conservative pretending to be a lib pretending to be BainsBane? :???: :evil:
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What if I'm a conservative pretending to be a lib pretending to be BainsBane? :???: :evil:
You're not a conservative. That much is certain.
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What a load of shit. Late term abortions were rare, and generally only used in cases where the life of the mother was in jeopardy. I know the idea that women's lives mean anything is an anathema to many conservatives, but some women think they shouldn't have to die because a bunch of old men want to play politic is with their lives.
Where are these abortion numbers from? They get batted around a lot, but how are they collected? What is the original source for the numbers?
Here's one of the most recent articles on Google.
The article uses a variety of resources including CDC numbers.
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/01/12/56662169-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/
Late-term abortions aren't rare. Since the Gosnell trial, there's been a number of abortion doctors who were caught performing gruesome late-term abortions. A doctor in Texas was decapitating babies, while the one in Maryland has had a number of his "patients" die as a result of his late-term procedures.
Liberals made a movie celebrating four late-term abortion doctors. You celebrated Wendy Davis, who filibustered for late term abortions. Late-term abortions are the most sacred cow of your platform. You really are a despicable bunch. It's funny, during all your supposed university studies, you probably read about cultures like the Mayans or the Aztecs, and you thought they were despicable, yet you worship at the altar of aborted unborn babies.
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What if I'm a conservative pretending to be a lib pretending to be BainsBane? :???: :evil:
Wouldn't be the first time it's happened. We had a poster pretend to be Trumad once.
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HawkHogan is on to something...big !
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When I was a younger woman with an income level where I could barely support myself, let alone a baby, the last thing I'd do would be to allow myself to become impregnated. Why aren't parents and liberal indoctrination centers (aka public schools) teaching young women about the dangers of unprotected sex?
Mine certainly did. I even had sex ed class with condoms passed around in Catholic School. I think you know that conservatives have led a push against sex education in schools because they think it leads to sex, which is obviously insane.
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Mine certainly did. I even had sex ed class with condoms passed around in Catholic School. I think you know that conservatives have led a push against sex education in schools because they think it leads to sex, which is obviously insane.
How about parents being parents and teach their own kids all about that stuff?
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Mine certainly did. I even had sex ed class with condoms passed around in Catholic School. I think you know that conservatives have led a push against sex education in schools because they think it leads to sex, which is obviously insane.
The insane are not qualified to judge insanity.
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Why not, either way I don't really care.
I have read enough of her stuff to understand she is not the sharpest tool in the shed and that's fine.
Personally, I find you standing your ground better then Bain is doing on the island but is just me so, you go female !
Interesting observation. It may be because people here actually want to know what I think, whereas there they just want me to keep quiet since I refuse to go along with the popular view. :???:
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Interesting observation. It may be because people here actually want to know what I think, whereas there they just want me to keep quiet since I refuse to go along with the popular view. :???:
I observed as much as posted in reply #444.
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Interesting observation. It may be because people here actually want to know what I think, whereas there they just want me to keep quiet since I refuse to go along with the popular view. :???:
Interesting observation indeed.
Wouldn't this ordinarily get you exiled from the island?
Frankly I'm sensing a fake mole pretending to to be Bain.
So Whatever.
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The insane are not qualified to judge insanity.
She also ignores the studies that show that increased access to abortion doesn't actually lead to less abortions. You see, liberals like Jugs just look as abortion as another form of contraception.
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/contraception/fact-sheets/greater-access-to-contraception-does-not-reduce-abortions.cfm
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Interesting observation. It may be because people here actually want to know what I think, whereas there they just want me to keep quiet since I refuse to go along with the popular view. :???:
Maybe you have addressed this already but don`t care.
If you are who you claim then I am curious...
Why now is Hillary your partys heir apparent,at every turn she unzipped and pissed on all feminism and leftism claims to stand for?
She let Bill humiliate and denigrate her for decades and has chased wealth like a starving vulture.
Forgetting that hypocrisy why have you sworn unconditional allegiance to the party that calculated the black guy with no record was a better chance then her?
Why do you still drop to your knees in front of him when he has treated women with disdain,hiding behind the skirts as the old saying goes of Hillary,Susan Rice,Sebelius,Candy Crowley in the debate,etc?
Don`t you feel at all conflicted being such a feminist militant yet in an instant political expediency washes it all to the side?
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Mine certainly did. I even had sex ed class with condoms passed around in Catholic School. I think you know that conservatives have led a push against sex education in schools because they think it leads to sex, which is obviously insane.
And that is exactly why I asked that. You have proved my point.
If schools are teaching it, they are failing - big time. That's why parents should be responsible for teaching their children about sex education. Of course, far too many parents these days have no business having and raising children.
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"I'm not a huge fan of guns" doesn't even begin to cover it. You have full-on, foaming-at-the-mouth, undiluted hoplophobia (fear and hatred of guns), and an equal fear and hatred of the good and decent citizens who own and carry them.
How about some other rights:
1. Individual liberty
2. Life
3. The natural right of self-defense
4. Property and Trade: the right to possess, buy, sell, and barter privately owned property or goods without government permission
5. Freedom of speech (careful on that one, it's a DU minefield!)
6. Freedom of choice (pick one: choose your own health insurance policy, choose to carry a weapon for self-defense, choose charter school or home-schooling children, choose to watch adult movies)
7, Freedom of religion (think "nuns" and "forced subsidizing of contraception")
8. Freedom to raise children in accordance with the parents' values
We'll come back to the personal and institutional sexism of the Ku Klux Klams later, if you're not banned for re-registering after your la
Easy ones first. 7) Freedom of religion I believe in strongly. Freedom of religion and freedom from the religion. The constitution handles that well.
8) Yes, of course. But if that includes someone's beating the crap out of their kids or molesting them, I'm going to have a problem with that. The state then has a responsibility to intervene to protect the well-being of the child.
I support the rest but we would likely differ on interpretation. Guns. I understand the constitution is interpreted as protecting an individual right to bear arms. I would prefer a society without handguns, but I don't have that option, so I favor reasonable gun control reforms, some of which I have already outlined.
I hate insurance. I hate having to buy car insurance. I hate insurance companies. I believe healthcare should be a right. Our healthcare system is the least cost effective in the world. I support single payer, unapolegetically. We could dole out less corporate welfare and defense spending and support a far more cost effective single payer system that would save all of us money.
Of course I support the right to self defense, but real self defense. Not because some yahoo gets spooked cause he's afraid of black guys. There needs to be an actual threat. I do not support Stand Your Ground laws.
Number 4. When do you think the government has ever not been involved in trade? There has always been government regulation of some kind. Are you talking about an anarchistic system with absolutely no government regulations? No, I don't support that. There certainly has been no point in US history when the govt wasn't involved in trade, with of course the exception of piracy, smuggling and other blackmarket commerce.
1 and 2, yes. How we interpet those likely vary. For example, I think my right to life means there should be more restrictions of guns. I think a fetus is part of a woman's body and her decision to make as to whether she wants to keep or abort it. I consider abortion a moral issue, but it is a personal moral issue. The state does not have the right to privilege the life of a fetus over the mother or to control the mother's body. I personally oppose abortion but I also support a woman's right to choose. Just as I personally oppose invetrofertilization but recognize my moral understanding of that is not universal. I have a very old fashioned view that only God, or whatever force of creation exists, has the right to create or take a life. I don't, however, belief my own morality needs to be imposed on the rest of the nation.
You want to home school your kids, as long as you're competent, it's fine by me. Same with private schools, but don't expect me to pay for it.
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^Freedom of religion is not freedom from it.
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Easy ones first. 7) Freedom of religion I believe in strongly. Freedom of religion and freedom from the religion. The constitution handles that well.
8) Yes, of course. But if that includes someone's beating the crap out of their kids or molesting them, I'm going to have a problem with that. The state then has a responsibility to intervene to protect the well-being of the child.
I support the rest but we would likely differ on interpretation. Guns. I understand the constitution is interpreted as protecting an individual right to bear arms. I would prefer a society without handguns, but I don't have that option, so I favor reasonable gun control reforms, some of which I have already outlined.
I hate insurance. I hate having to buy car insurance. I hate insurance companies. I believe healthcare should be a right. Our healthcare system is the least cost effective in the world. I support single payer, unapolegetically. We could dole out less corporate welfare and defense spending and support a far more cost effective single payer system that would save all of us money.
Of course I support the right to self defense, but real self defense. Not because some yahoo gets spooked cause he's afraid of black guys. There needs to be an actual threat. I do not support Stand Your Ground laws.
Number 4. When do you think the government has ever not been involved in trade? There has always been government regulation of some kind. Are you talking about an anarchistic system with absolutely no government regulations? No, I don't support that. There certainly has been no point in US history when the govt wasn't involved in trade, with of course the exception of piracy, smuggling and other blackmarket commerce.
1 and 2, yes. How we interpet those likely vary. For example, I think my right to life means there should be more restrictions of guns. I think a fetus is part of a woman's body and her decision to make as to whether she wants to keep or abort it. I consider abortion a moral issue, but it is a personal moral issue. The state does not have the right to privilege the life of a fetus over the mother or to control the mother's body. I personally oppose abortion but I also support a woman's right to choose. Just as I personally oppose invetrofertilization but recognize my moral understanding of that is not universal. I have a very old fashioned view that only God, or whatever force of creation exists, has the right to create or take a life. I don't, however, belief my own morality needs to be imposed on the rest of the nation.
You want to home school your kids, as long as you're competent, it's fine by me. Same with private schools, but don't expect me to pay for it.
Yet you expect and demand I pay for your birth control and maternity care.
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^Freedom of religion is not freedom from it.
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Not one thing she mentioned is supported by the Constitution or the intentions of the Framers.
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You're not a conservative. That much is certain.
What is it that Frank always says, It's easier for "good and decent people" to pretend to be libs than for libs to pretend to be "good and decent" conservatives?
You never know. I could be Frank's triumph of a triple mole par excellence.
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What is it that Frank always says, It's easier for "good and decent people" to pretend to be libs than for libs to pretend to be "good and decent" conservatives?
You never know. I could be Frank's triumph of a triple mole par excellence.
No.
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I'll confess. I read it somewhere from someone who sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
The person who wrote that didn't know what he was talking about.
I could well be wrong. I have not read Keynes
I have. You're wrong.
Keynes' The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money is available for free download here. (http://ambidextrouscivicdiscourse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-General-Theory-of-Employment-Interest-and-Money.pdf)
I invite you to read it. Keynes' central thesis was the "benefit" of central economic planning to prevent severe economic downturn. A two sentence summation of Keynes would be "Spend money you don't have when times are good. Spend more money you don''t have when times are bad". Do you know what Keynes' forgot (or ignored)? Putting money back in the piggy bank.
They're not available online as free downloads, but ]F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom and The Constitution of Liberty are must-reads. In chapter 7 of The Road to Serfdom, you will recognize your Democrat Party masters by the end of the fourth paragraph.
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Easy ones first. 7) Freedom of religion I believe in strongly. Freedom of religion and freedom from the religion. The constitution handles that well.
8) Yes, of course. But if that includes someone's beating the crap out of their kids or molesting them, I'm going to have a problem with that. The state then has a responsibility to intervene to protect the well-being of the child.
I support the rest but we would likely differ on interpretation. Guns. I understand the constitution is interpreted as protecting an individual right to bear arms. I would prefer a society without handguns, but I don't have that option, so I favor reasonable gun control reforms, some of which I have already outlined.
I hate insurance. I hate having to buy car insurance. I hate insurance companies. I believe healthcare should be a right. Our healthcare system is the least cost effective in the world. I support single payer, unapolegetically. We could dole out less corporate welfare and defense spending and support a far more cost effective single payer system that would save all of us money.
Of course I support the right to self defense, but real self defense. Not because some yahoo gets spooked cause he's afraid of black guys. There needs to be an actual threat. I do not support Stand Your Ground laws.
Number 4. When do you think the government has ever not been involved in trade? There has always been government regulation of some kind. Are you talking about an anarchistic system with absolutely no government regulations? No, I don't support that. There certainly has been no point in US history when the govt wasn't involved in trade, with of course the exception of piracy, smuggling and other blackmarket commerce.
1 and 2, yes. How we interpet those likely vary. For example, I think my right to life means there should be more restrictions of guns. I think a fetus is part of a woman's body and her decision to make as to whether she wants to keep or abort it. I consider abortion a moral issue, but it is a personal moral issue. The state does not have the right to privilege the life of a fetus over the mother or to control the mother's body. I personally oppose abortion but I also support a woman's right to choose. Just as I personally oppose invetrofertilization but recognize my moral understanding of that is not universal. I have a very old fashioned view that only God, or whatever force of creation exists, has the right to create or take a life. I don't, however, belief my own morality needs to be imposed on the rest of the nation.
You want to home school your kids, as long as you're competent, it's fine by me. Same with private schools, but don't expect me to pay for it.
I love how you say you don't want to impose your morals when it comes to abortion, but when it comes to guns you have no problem trying to impose your morals.
You don't personally oppose abortion, when you actively fight to allow it you don't oppose it.
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Thanks for the link. I won't have to dig back through. The pot roast came out okay eventually. I had a few issues because I used a new pressure cooker, which I had never done before. I put too much liquid in so had to reduce it down to give it adequate flavor. I also didn't have enough wine because I only picked up one of those little bottles. It's okay now, but not my best effort.
Little bottles of wine?
The proper ratio is 1 cup of wine in the pot : the rest of the bottle in the cook. If you buy little bottles, you're only cheating yourself.
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Little bottles of wine?
The proper ratio is 1 cup of wine in the pot : the rest of the bottle in the cook. If you buy little bottles, you're only cheating yourself.
If only libs had access to free wine.
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Evidence that Republicans want to end the minimum wage? Do you never read the newspaper?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/lamar-alexander-minimum-wage_n_3498975.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43474.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/objectivist/2013/03/27/to-protect-the-defenseless-we-must-abolish-the-minimum-wage/
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/06/26/2216671/republican-senator-calls-for-abolishing-the-minimum-wage/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/08/fox-guest-slams-the-minimum-wage-abolish-the-black-teenage-unemployment-act/
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/upcoming-debates/item/853-abolish-the-minimum-wage
Newspapers are passe fishwrap, reputable newssites (for which you are 2 - 6) are better but not always accurate.
Getting back to your quote:
Some Republicans want to abolish the minimum wage so that we can compete with third world countries in terms of labor costs.
Your conclusion is not supported by either the links you posted, nor economic fact that raising the minimum wage does nothing but raise the "floor" of the price of services that are not worth the prices that will eventually be charged.
IE, bullshit.
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If only libs had access to free wine.
Are you going to declare it a basic human right?
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Are you going to declare it a basic human right?
Man, good catch. I must be slipping.
I need to step up my game !
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Women age. It's horrible they allow it to happen. What solution do you propose? Putting us down at 30?
That's a very stupid conclusion you came to. My point is that, yes, there obviously is a demand for middle aged cheesecake but you managed to miss your opportunity.
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Are you going to declare it a basic human right?
5 Liberal judges can use the commerce clause to justify it.
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5 Liberal judges can use the commerce clause to justify it.
Access to free wine while being propositioned by a pimp is a basic human right.
I'm just trying to step up my game.
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Easy ones first. 7) Freedom of religion I believe in strongly. Freedom of religion and freedom from the religion. The constitution handles that well.
8) Yes, of course. But if that includes someone's beating the crap out of their kids or molesting them, I'm going to have a problem with that. The state then has a responsibility to intervene to protect the well-being of the child.
I support the rest but we would likely differ on interpretation. Guns. I understand the constitution is interpreted as protecting an individual right to bear arms. I would prefer a society without handguns, but I don't have that option, so I favor reasonable gun control reforms, some of which I have already outlined.
I hate insurance. I hate having to buy car insurance. I hate insurance companies. I believe healthcare should be a right. Our healthcare system is the least cost effective in the world. I support single payer, unapolegetically. We could dole out less corporate welfare and defense spending and support a far more cost effective single payer system that would save all of us money.
Of course I support the right to self defense, but real self defense. Not because some yahoo gets spooked cause he's afraid of black guys. There needs to be an actual threat. I do not support Stand Your Ground laws.
Number 4. When do you think the government has ever not been involved in trade? There has always been government regulation of some kind. Are you talking about an anarchistic system with absolutely no government regulations? No, I don't support that. There certainly has been no point in US history when the govt wasn't involved in trade, with of course the exception of piracy, smuggling and other blackmarket commerce.
1 and 2, yes. How we interpet those likely vary. For example, I think my right to life means there should be more restrictions of guns. I think a fetus is part of a woman's body and her decision to make as to whether she wants to keep or abort it. I consider abortion a moral issue, but it is a personal moral issue. The state does not have the right to privilege the life of a fetus over the mother or to control the mother's body. I personally oppose abortion but I also support a woman's right to choose. Just as I personally oppose invetrofertilization but recognize my moral understanding of that is not universal. I have a very old fashioned view that only God, or whatever force of creation exists, has the right to create or take a life. I don't, however, belief my own morality needs to be imposed on the rest of the nation.
You want to home school your kids, as long as you're competent, it's fine by me. Same with private schools, but don't expect me to pay for it.
I expected every bit of collectivist dogma, and didn't disappoint.
Here's a little more after-school reading for you.
The United States Constitution (http://www.usconstitution.net/const.pdf)
The Federalist Papers (http://www2.hn.psu.edu/faculty/jmanis/poldocs/fed-papers.pdf)
Two Treatises of Government (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1690locke-sel.asp), by John Locke
You'll find more educational reading at the CC Book Club (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/board,49.0.html).
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Man, good catch. I must be slipping.
I need to step up my game !
DUmmy "free wine" would be a nightmare.
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DUmmy "free wine" would be a nightmare.
I need to hurry up and finish my Levin book so that I can send it to her.
But only if she promises to read it.
Such as promises from libs go.
I'm just trying to step up my game.
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DUmmy "free wine" would be a nightmare.
Well the Dummies' wine would be subsidized by the group of Americans who didn't want any wine but still had to pay for it.
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Complete with fabricated quotes. You applaud someone lying and making shit up to attack another person because he can't find actual evidence, that is your problem.
Fabricated? If they were fabricated, dear, I wouldn't have posted the link. What I posted was a sampling of the well deserved, long overdue verbal ass kicking that the self proclaimed guardian of the holy vag, DUmmie Alexandra K BainsBane, received for her bent shitcan personality. Others are free to see for themselves if you are right.
So now we know who your mole is. I'm so shocked. ::)
My mole is one of Alex's few supporters. Another is a honest rival that challenges her, doesn't really like her, but gives her grudging respect. Several others are her worst tormentors.
Or not.... One just never knows, do they? ;)
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I need to hurry up and finish my Levin book so that I can send it to her.
But only if she promises to read it.
Such as promises from libs go.
I'm just trying to step up my game.
I'd buy her a little bottle of wine if she read it and discussed it here.
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Fabricated? If they were fabricated, dear, I wouldn't have posted the link. What I posted was a sampling of the well deserved, long overdue verbal ass kicking that the self proclaimed guardian of the holy vag, DUmmie Alexandra K BainsBane, received for her bent shitcan personality. Others are free to see for themselves if you are right.
My mole is one of Alex's few supporters. Another is a honest rival that challeneges her, doesn't really like her, but gives her grudging respect. Several others are her worst tormentors.
Or not.... One just never knows, do they? ;)
Good stuff wasp.
The increasing light is sending the vermin scurrying.
I'm just trying to step up my game.
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For the record, I am not MADem. The only ass-whoopin' I'm giving Alex is right here.
:asssmack:
Neither am I, but don't tell the DUmmie that. :-)
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Well the Dummies' wine would be subsidized by the group of Americans who didn't want any wine but still had to pay for it.
If you like your wine, you can keep your wine.
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I'd buy her a little bottle of wine if she read it and discussed it here.
To quote Larry the Cable Guy..."This deal just keeps on getting sweeter and sweeter"
But maybe in bane's case it would be "sweater(puppy) and sweater(puppy)".
I'm just trying to step up my game.
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It will come to no surprise to anyone here, but I have read Marx, including Das Kapital, but that was many years ago.
A crying shame you didn't understand a word of it.
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Not you, the mean one, WASP.
Only to a DUmmie could unvarnished truth be considered "mean". :lmao:
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Whoa. I just noticed something.
She's currently the leading poster on conservativecave, and by a wide margin.
Challenge given, taken, and conquered...
Top Postors this week
obumazombie 145
anti-spelunker 114
Big Dog 67
Freeper 57
Bad Dog 50
Mr Mannn 40
BattleHymn 40
Tucker 38
liana 38
franksolich 30
I just stepped up my game...a little.
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Challenge given, taken, and conquered...
Top Postors this week
obumazombie 145
anti-spelunker 114
Big Dog 67
Freeper 57
Bad Dog 50
Mr Mannn 40
BattleHymn 40
Tucker 38
liana 38
franksolich 30
I just stepped up my game...a little.
Looks like I made it on the list, too.
I'm only an amateur at stepping up my game, while you are obviously a pro.
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I believe this quote applies in this thread:
""How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.".
CMD
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Challenge given, taken, and conquered...
Top Postors this week
obumazombie 145
anti-spelunker 114
Big Dog 67
Freeper 57
Bad Dog 50
Mr Mannn 40
BattleHymn 40
Tucker 38
liana 38
franksolich 30
I just stepped up my game...a little.
You know, after saying I was cutting back on my time at CC this month, I sure have been posting a lot.
It's more fun than the thing I should be doing right now (which is also fun).
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Here's one of the most recent articles on Google.
The article uses a variety of resources including CDC numbers.
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/01/12/56662169-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/
Late-term abortions aren't rare. Since the Gosnell trial, there's been a number of abortion doctors who were caught performing gruesome late-term abortions. A doctor in Texas was decapitating babies, while the one in Maryland has had a number of his "patients" die as a result of his late-term procedures.
Liberals made a movie celebrating four late-term abortion doctors. You celebrated Wendy Davis, who filibustered for late term abortions. Late-term abortions are the most sacred cow of your platform. You really are a despicable bunch. It's funny, during all your supposed university studies, you probably read about cultures like the Mayans or the Aztecs, and you thought they were despicable, yet you worship at the altar of aborted unborn babies.
Davis didn't filibuster for late term abortions. She filibustered for access to abortions, period.
Try reading what I actually write rather than attributing steretypical views to me.
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Wouldn't be the first time it's happened. We had a poster pretend to be Trumad once.
And Hrmjustin. It's wise to disbelieve for sure.
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^Freedom of religion is not freedom from it.
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Freedom of religion necessitates freedom from religion. If the state imposes religious faith, there can be no freedom.
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Davis didn't filibuster for late term abortions. She filibustered for access to abortions, period.
Try reading what I actually write rather than attributing steretypical views to me.
You were doing fair for a while but, now you have resorted to lying. Like the coach says, DUmmies lie, they always lie.
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Davis didn't filibuster for late term abortions. She filibustered for access to abortions, period.
Try reading what I actually write rather than attributing steretypical views to me.
Actually her panties were all bunched up because late term abortion was under attack. I'm disgusted by her love of abortion.
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You were doing fair for a while but, now you have resorted to lying. Like the coach says, DUmmies lie, they always lie.
After Texas state Sen. Wendy Davis' 11-hour filibuster helped defeat a controversial anti-abortion bill aimed at severely cutting access to abortion services across Texas, even her Republican colleagues had to express their admiration.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/wendy-davis-abortion-special-session_n_3526041.html
The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, require abortion clinics to meet the same standards that hospital-style surgical centers do, and mandate that a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us/politics/senate-democrats-in-texas-try-blocking-abortion-bill-with-filibuster.html?_r=0
This is the last part I was aware of. The effect of that bill was to shut down family planning clinics across Texas, which is why abortion is so difficult to access there now.
Abortion is already illegal if a fetus is viable. I don't know enough about the gestational cycle to know at what point that is.
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And that is exactly why I asked that. You have proved my point.
If schools are teaching it, they are failing - big time. That's why parents should be responsible for teaching their children about sex education. Of course, far too many parents these days have no business having and raising children.
So what if parents don't? You think society has no interest in educating young people on how to avoid that kind of trouble? Abstinence only education has been shown to be counter productive. Kids who receive that rather than comprehensive sex ed are more likely to get pregnant.
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Yet you expect and demand I pay for your birth control and maternity care.
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Pure talking point. I pay for my birth control through the contributions to my employer insurance plan and through my work, since my insurance is part of my compensation for my job. The mandate to cover birth control is on insurers. Insurance companies have paid for boner pills for decades. You pay for nothing for me. In fact, since I live in a one of the state's the sends the most to the federal government in tax dollars and receives the least, I probably pay for you, unless you happen to live in NJ or one of the blue states that pays more than MN.
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The person who wrote that didn't know what he was talking about.
I have. You're wrong.
Keynes' The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money is available for free download here. (http://ambidextrouscivicdiscourse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-General-Theory-of-Employment-Interest-and-Money.pdf)
I invite you to read it. Keynes' central thesis was the "benefit" of central economic planning to prevent severe economic downturn. A two sentence summation of Keynes would be "Spend money you don't have when times are good. Spend more money you don''t have when times are bad". Do you know what Keynes' forgot (or ignored)? Putting money back in the piggy bank.
They're not available online as free downloads, but ]F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom and The Constitution of Liberty are must-reads. In chapter 7 of The Road to Serfdom, you will recognize your Democrat Party masters by the end of the fourth paragraph.
Thanks. I appreciate it.
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I love how you say you don't want to impose your morals when it comes to abortion, but when it comes to guns you have no problem trying to impose your morals.
You don't personally oppose abortion, when you actively fight to allow it you don't oppose it.
If someone has an abortion, it doesn't hurt me. When criminals have guns, it does. My car has the bullet holes to prove it.
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Little bottles of wine?
The proper ratio is 1 cup of wine in the pot : the rest of the bottle in the cook. If you buy little bottles, you're only cheating yourself.
I can't drink much wine. I prefer beer or margaritas. The little bottle definitely wasn't enough. I won't try that again. I was trying to be frugal.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/wendy-davis-abortion-special-session_n_3526041.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us/politics/senate-democrats-in-texas-try-blocking-abortion-bill-with-filibuster.html?_r=0
This is the last part I was aware of. The effect of that bill was to shut down family planning clinics across Texas, which is why abortion is so difficult to access there now.
Abortion is already illegal if a fetus is viable. I don't know enough about the gestational cycle to know at what point that is.
The NY Times and Huf Post of course wouldn't slant their coverage. I live in TX and know exactly what was in the bill.
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The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, require abortion clinics to meet the same standards that hospital-style surgical centers do, and mandate that a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.
But your quote was kind enough to confirm she was filibustering a bill making late term abortions illegal. Also, do you disagree with the requirements on clinics that are obviously to protect the patient. Maybe we don't want to run our clinics like butcher shops in Philly.
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Newspapers are passe fishwrap, reputable newssites (for which you are 2 - 6) are better but not always accurate.
Getting back to your quote:
Your conclusion is not supported by either the links you posted, nor economic fact that raising the minimum wage does nothing but raise the "floor" of the price of services that are not worth the prices that will eventually be charged.
IE, bullshit.
You asked for proof that some Republicans support abolishing the minimum wage, and you got it.
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The NY Times and Huf Post of course wouldn't slant their coverage. I live in TX and know exactly what was in the bill.
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The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, require abortion clinics to meet the same standards that hospital-style surgical centers do, and mandate that a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.
But your quote was kind enough to confirm she was filibustering a bill making late term abortions illegal. Also, do you disagree with the requirements on clinics that are obviously to protect the patient. Maybe we don't want to run our clinics like butcher shops in Philly.
I saw that. I had not realized that was part of the bill. So I was wrong on that, and you were wrong to describe it as being about late term abortions only. It was about access.
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That's a very stupid conclusion you came to. My point is that, yes, there obviously is a demand for middle aged cheesecake but you managed to miss your opportunity.
See, I had no idea. I could be making $10 blowing some skeezy guy right now. Clearly I've squandered my potential. ::)
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I saw that. I had not realized that was part of the bill. So I was wrong on that, and you were wrong to describe it as being about late term abortions only. It was about access.
Well, what else are you wrong about and, I never said it was only about late term abortions. Finally why don't you answer the questions about clinic standards.
Finally, your bullet hole story is absolute bullshit to give yourself a shred of credibility. Didn't work liar.
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Fabricated? If they were fabricated, dear, I wouldn't have posted the link. What I posted was a sampling of the well deserved, long overdue verbal ass kicking that the self proclaimed guardian of the holy vag, DUmmie Alexandra K BainsBane, received for her bent shitcan personality. Others are free to see for themselves if you are right.
My mole is one of Alex's few supporters. Another is a honest rival that challenges her, doesn't really like her, but gives her grudging respect. Several others are her worst tormentors.
Or not.... One just never knows, do they? ;)
I just want to know which one of you is Pintobean. My money is on you.
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Fabricated? If they were fabricated, dear, I wouldn't have posted the link. What I posted was a sampling of the well deserved, long overdue verbal ass kicking that the self proclaimed guardian of the holy vag, DUmmie Alexandra K BainsBane, received for her bent shitcan personality. Others are free to see for themselves if you are right.
My mole is one of Alex's few supporters. Another is a honest rival that challenges her, doesn't really like her, but gives her grudging respect. Several others are her worst tormentors.
Or not.... One just never knows, do they? ;)
MADem fabricated quotes that seemed to be from an alert he decided I had written. I had not. That was the proof he came up with as so-called evidence against me. It was low and dishonest.
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MADem fabricated quotes that seemed to be from an alert he decided I had written. I had not. That was the proof he came up with as so-called evidence against me. It was low and dishonest.
Sorry, choose your rate choose your fate. As I quoted from Coach earlier; "DUmmies lie, they always lie."
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Well, what else are you wrong about and, I never said it was only about late term abortions. Finally why don't you answer the questions about clinic standards.
Finally, your bullet hole story is absolute bullshit to give yourself a shred of credibility. Didn't work liar.
Credibility. Because no one has their cars shot at? I moved into a lousy location, ostensibly a good neighborhood but on the edge of one that isn't. Whatever dude. Doesn't matter what you believe one way or the other. I missed the part about clinics. I'm moving through these quickly.
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The only purpose of that clinic requirement was to shut down family planning clinics. It's one thing to oppose abortion and another to spew bullshit about laws that seek to do away with it.
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If someone has an abortion, it doesn't hurt me. When criminals have guns, it does. My car has the bullet holes to prove it.
Well if someone shoots at you it doesn't hurt me.
Sound mean to you? It's the same attitude you have towards the unborn.
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The only purpose of that clinic requirement was to shut down family planning clinics. It's one thing to oppose abortion and another to spew bullshit about laws that seek to do away with it.
The purpose of the requirements (as clear from your own "bullshit" quote) was to prevent filthy butcher shops like Gosnell ran in Philly.
BULLSHIT QUOTE:
"The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, require abortion clinics to meet the same standards that hospital-style surgical centers do, and mandate that a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital."
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What I find strange is, leftists don't want anyone coming between them and their abortionist, yet they support Obamacare which puts the government between them and their doctor for everything else. I suppose privacy only matters when killing your offspring, but if grandma needs a pacemaker Obama can just send her home with a pain pill.
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Abortion is already illegal if a fetus is viable. I don't know enough about the gestational cycle to know at what point that is.
You could have stopped with "I don't know" and saved yourself some face. 20 weeks is "viable" and will survive outside of the womb. Wendy Davis would see that unborn child killed and thrown into the trash.
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You asked for proof that some Republicans support abolishing the minimum wage, and you got it.
No, sugar, I want to see the quotes where they want to bring back third world level sweat shops. Either put up, or shut up.
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Credibility.
You lost the sliver of it that you had when you claimed that there are more restrictions on abortion than guns.
CMD
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See, I had no idea. I could be making $10 blowing some skeezy guy right now. Clearly I've squandered my potential. ::)
Well, at least you know you can always make a career change if necessary.
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I just want to know which one of you is Pintobean. My money is on you.
Heh... I thought one could expect better from a member of $kinner's Einsatzgruppen.
You should try taking lessons from Crazy Aunt Judy on how to sleuth. You could upgrade from completely incompetent to mediocre.
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Well, at least you know you can always make a career change if necessary.
Times are hard right now, she might want to rethink her price structure. Jugs ain't getting any younger.
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MADem fabricated quotes that seemed to be from an alert he decided I had written. I had not. That was the proof he came up with as so-called evidence against me. It was low and dishonest.
The link is there, the watching world can see if MADem is right or "Doctor" Brown has been slandered.
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The only purpose of that clinic requirement was to shut down family planning clinics. It's one thing to oppose abortion and another to spew bullshit about laws that seek to do away with it.
Kermit Gosnell agrees with your analysis, DUmmie.
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Heh... I thought one could expect better from a member of $kinner's Einsatzgruppen.
You should try taking lessons from Crazy Aunt Judy on how to sleuth. You could upgrade from completely incompetent to mediocre.
Heh, she's got her 100 posts but, she's never going to find the secret "mole" forum.
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Heh, she's got her 100 posts but, she's never going to find the secret "mole" forum.
Considering what I've seen from this cretin, I don't think it could hit its own ass with both hands.
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Well, at least you know you can always make a career change if necessary.
A change to some honest employment would do her some good. :rotf:
CMD
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So is it the number of laws or how easy it is to acquire a gun or an abortion? Do you need to submit to a transvaginal ultrasound before buying a gun? Do you need to travel hundreds of miles? No and no. It's not even close.
A 14 year old girl can skip school go to the local Planned Parenthood and get an abortion and in most states the parents will never be notified.
Please explain to me exactly how that somehow more complicated or harder to get than buying a weapon legally. in in the U.S. ?
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Can we at least stop using the lefts terminology on this? They use 20 weeks to make it seem like the pregnancy isn't that far along...so what they're advocating for isn't that gruesome.
But the fact of the matter is 20 weeks = 5 months along. The baby can survive on its own at that point. There's no hiding your "baby bump".
By saying 20 weeks we are buying into the lefts speech codes
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Davis didn't filibuster for late term abortions. She filibustered for access to abortions, period.
Try reading what I actually write rather than attributing steretypical views to me.
She filibustered the vote on abortions after 5 months. By that time you're over half way through the pregnancy...how much more "late term" can you get?
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Evidence?
The correct figure to use is the CBO’s analysis of the president’s 2013 budget, which clocks in at $3.72 trillion.
So this is what we end up with:
2008: $2.98 trillion
2009: $3.27 trillion
2010: $3.46 trillion
2011: $3.60 trillion
2012: $3.65 trillion
2013: $3.72 trillion
Under these figures, and using this calculator, with 2008 as the base year and ending with 2012, the compound annual growth rate for Obama’s spending starting in 2009 is 5.2 percent.
Obama’s numbers get even higher if you look at what he proposed to spend, using CBO’s estimates of his budgets:
2012: $3.71 trillion (versus $3.65 trillion enacted)
2011: $3.80 trillion (versus $3.60 trillion enacted)
2010: $3.67 trillion (versus $3.46 trillion enacted)
So in every case, the president wanted to spend more money than he ended up getting.
One common way to measure federal spending is to compare it to the size of the overall U.S. economy. That at least puts the level into context, helping account for population growth, inflation and other factors that affect spending. Here’s what the White House’s own budget documents show about spending as a percentage of the U.S. economy (gross domestic product):
2008: 20.8 percent
2009: 25.2 percent
2010: 24.1 percent
2011: 24.1 percent
2012: 24.3 percent
2013: 23.3 percent
In the post-war era, federal spending as a percentage of the U.S. economy has hovered around 20 percent, give or take a couple of percentage points. Under Obama, it has hit highs not seen since the end of World War II
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-facts-about-the-growth-of-spending-under-obama/2012/05/24/gJQAIJh6nU_blog.html?wprss=rss_fact-checker
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That is an assertion, not evidence.
No actually it's a really well sourced and researched study.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/12/epa-power-plant-regulations-a-backdoor-energy-tax
Additionally, coal is one of many industries.
It's one of many industries...like farming that are suffering at the hands of the EPA.
Wages are a key issue.
Yes and under this President median income has dropped sharply and will continue to do so.
Some Republicans want to abolish the minimum wage so that we can compete with third world countries in terms of labor costs
Link?
What do you think that will do to the the average wage and ability of women to be homemakers?
If a woman chooses to be a stay at hom mom then obviously they aren't worried about minimum wage and they've found someone that has a good enough job to allow her to stay at home.
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Freedom of religion necessitates freedom from religion. If the state imposes religious faith, there can be no freedom.
Again you are absolutely wrong in your analysis. The imposition of faith is not the same as freedom from religion. The state must not establish a religion, but it must allow the free exercise thereof. The free exercise of religion allow it to be a civilizing influence on society and it's government.
You are operating under the misconception that government and religion must be separated.
Quote from: Freeper on January 13, 2014, 05:16:24 pm
I love how you say you don't want to impose your morals when it comes to abortion, but when it comes to guns you have no problem trying to impose your morals.
You don't personally oppose abortion, when you actively fight to allow it you don't oppose it.
[Begin bane quote] If someone has an abortion, it doesn't hurt me. When criminals have guns, it does. My car has the bullet holes to prove it.
Again you are dreadfully wrong.
Every abortion cheapens life. How can the thugs who allegedly shot your car value life if the country they live in doesn't.
That's the thing about libs. you don't see that actions have consequences.
You don't want your or anyone else's irresponsible actions to have any negative consequences.
You want to do whatever feels good, and have that be the end of it.
Even when someone sage in the ways of the world predicts the kinds of consequences that accompany certain actions, you pooh pooh them.
Then when said consequences become manifest you deny the relation to the act, or that anyone ever warned you about the linkage.
Just like owebumacare.
Many conservatives predicted all the horrendous results we are seeing now. But did libs listen ?
No way Jose.
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If the state imposes religious faith, there can be no freedom.
When did we become like England and impose an official religion of the United States?
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Seems like we hear pretty often of some prominent conservative or evangelical that tries to force a woman into having an abortion.
If we "hear pretty often" of prominent conservatives or evangelical Christians forcing women to have abortions, it should be easy for you to name some.
Name ten.
No?
OK, name five.
Still a no-go?
Two?
Hmmm....
How about one? Just one?
If you can name one "prominent conservative conservative or evangelical" who forced a woman to have an abortion, I'll cede your point.
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I hate insurance. I hate having to buy car insurance. I hate insurance companies.
Alex, that is like saying "I hate safety glasses". People who hate insurance don't understand insurance. This is not the thread for a proper discussion of the economy of risk and the value of insurance. If you want to talk about economics, I'm your huckleberry; start an econ thread and I'll talk to you there.
I believe healthcare should be a right. Our healthcare system is the least cost effective in the world. I support single payer, unapolegetically. We could dole out less corporate welfare and defense spending and support a far more cost effective single payer system that would save all of us money.
Healthcare is the provision of specific goods and services. Companies make the goods, companies provide the facilities, and people provide the services. They do so voluntarily; both your family doctor and Pfizer Pharmaceuticals choose to engage in those businesses, with the reasonable expectation of profiting.
If healthcare was a "right", then the companies and people who make and provide healthcare would be obligated to provide those goods and services, with no expectation of remuneration (since you claim a "right" to their product). Choice has become compulsion; your doctor is now your slave.
One man's right can't create an obligation on another man. That is the antithesis of "equal rights", something you claim to support.
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I can't drink much wine. I prefer beer or margaritas. The little bottle definitely wasn't enough. I won't try that again. I was trying to be frugal.
Think about the economy of scale. That is the best reason of all to buy wine in big bottles.
OK, second best. The best reason is having lots of wine.
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One man's right can't create an obligation on another man. That is the antithesis of "equal rights", something you claim to support.
That right there is the epitome of conservatism. Perfectly stated. Hi-5.
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I just want to know which one of you is Pintobean. My money is on you.
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Now, how did I miss this?
Freedom of religion necessitates freedom from religion.
The Establishment Clause dictates no such thing, nor is there the scantest historical evidence otherwise. Wouldn't it be smart to better understand a document you would see undone before you actually undo it?
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One man's right can't create an obligation on another man. That is the antithesis of "equal rights", something you claim to support.
Just like everything else to a lib, it's a lie. Lip service is paid to "equal rights" and "individual freedom" when their actions are anything but.
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and so is my wife. ex-wife. girlfriend.
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Freedom of religion necessitates freedom from religion. If the state imposes religious faith, there can be no freedom.
However, the State is not imposing faith. You are not required to attend the Church of America, headed by the President. When the separation clause was being debated the reference was the Church of England, Ol' Henry VIII's toy. Although to be fair the State didn't mandate membership in the CofE, but you didn't get far in life if you didn't.
You should read up on it, it's interesting stuff and will give you better understanding why the founding fathers thought as they did about 'official religions'.
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So what if parents don't? You think society has no interest in educating young people on how to avoid that kind of trouble? Abstinence only education has been shown to be counter productive. Kids who receive that rather than comprehensive sex ed are more likely to get pregnant.
let me pull a DUmpmonkie card... "source?"
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Am I the only one who has reached the point of boredom with our newest chew toy? My God, she's an insufferable dolt and boring beyond belief. She's proof that higher education does not equal higher intelligence. My cat Lucy has more sense than she does.
:thatsright:
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Am I the only one who has reached the point of boredom with our newest chew toy? My God, she's an insufferable dolt and boring beyond belief. She's proof that higher education does not equal higher intelligence. My cat Lucy has more sense than she does.
:thatsright:
If this really is Bainsbane, I'd be interested in reading her dissertation... see just how far out there it is.
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Again you are absolutely wrong in your analysis. The imposition of faith is not the same as freedom from religion. The state must not establish a religion, but it must allow the free exercise thereof. The free exercise of religion allow it to be a civilizing influence on society and it's government.
You are operating under the misconception that government and religion must be separated.
I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate? Hmmm. Let me think. The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. It's in the bit just about the gun part.
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Alex, that is like saying "I hate safety glasses". People who hate insurance don't understand insurance. This is not the thread for a proper discussion of the economy of risk and the value of insurance. If you want to talk about economics, I'm your huckleberry; start an econ thread and I'll talk to you there.
Healthcare is the provision of specific goods and services. Companies make the goods, companies provide the facilities, and people provide the services. They do so voluntarily; both your family doctor and Pfizer Pharmaceuticals choose to engage in those businesses, with the reasonable expectation of profiting.
If healthcare was a "right", then the companies and people who make and provide healthcare would be obligated to provide those goods and services, with no expectation of remuneration (since you claim a "right" to their product). Choice has become compulsion; your doctor is now your slave.
One man's right can't create an obligation on another man. That is the antithesis of "equal rights", something you claim to support.
Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life. It is essential to human life and to a functioning society. Why is everything about profit to you?
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Think about the economy of scale. That is the best reason of all to buy wine in big bottles.
OK, second best. The best reason is having lots of wine.
Wine goes off quickly. Still, next time I'll buy a full bottle. I hadn't had to buy any in some time since I had some around. I actually had a bottle of Nouveau Beaujolais unopened for a year, which is stupid. It worked well enough for the last pot roast, however.
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The link is there, the watching world can see if MADem is right or "Doctor" Brown has been slandered.
You'll also noticed I deleted a bunch of my posts in that thread, including the ones where I pointed out he had made up the quote about snowflakes. Someone managed to get my self delete notice on the thread hidden by a jury, and since the new MO is to keep hunting for additional alerts to get someone flagged and then put on suspension, a friend suggested I delete everything from that day.
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I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate? Hmmm. Let me think. The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. It's in the bit just about the gun part.
They are separate. Our president is not also the head of the State sanctioned religion, something the founding fathers wished to avoid as was the case in England. That doesn't mean that we as citizens can't petition and have passed legislation that upholds our moral beliefs which are based upon our religious convictions. In fact, not to do so would be immoral.
Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life. It is essential to human life and to a functioning society.
But it's not a right. If it is, why hasn't the gov't mandated this right be observed since 1789? Certainly within the first 200 years of the nation, a whole group of legislators would have pointed out that the founders gave us a right that isn't being practiced.
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Yeah, I'm still going with one of the two who with the winning personalities that resemble his.
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I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate? Hmmm. Let me think. The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. It's in the bit just about the gun part.
A damned shame you understand them as well as you do simple economics or gestational development, isn't it?
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let me pull a DUmpmonkie card... "source?"
Fair question, but I don't have time to hunt it up now. I do recall studies the came out at the end of the George W Bush administration. I'll try to remember to find some when I have more time.
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A 14 year old girl can skip school go to the local Planned Parenthood and get an abortion and in most states the parents will never be notified.
Please explain to me exactly how that somehow more complicated or harder to get than buying a weapon legally. in in the U.S. ?
That depends on the state. In MN, parental notification is required. In some states, parental permission is required.
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You'll also noticed I deleted a bunch of my posts in that thread, including the ones where I pointed out he had made up the quote about snowflakes. Someone (Hootnholler) managed to get my self delete notice on the thread hidden by a jury, and since the new MO is to keep hunting for additional alerts to get someone flagged and then put on suspension, a friend suggested I delete everything from that day.
So all we have is the good "Doctor's" unimpeachable character and word, huh?
Heh, heh, heh...
DUmmie Alexandra sure does a lot of self deletion, usually following a bout of hyper emotional internet screaming. If I were her, I'd work on developing a better disposition so as not to giver her "enemies" an excuse to finish the job she herself started with sock puppet posting.
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No actually it's a really well sourced and researched study.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/12/epa-power-plant-regulations-a-backdoor-energy-tax
:rofl:
Yes and under this President median income has dropped sharply and will continue to do so.
I don't suppose you recall the economy collapsing at the end of 2008, a crisis many economics have called the worst since the Great Depression?
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You lost the sliver of it that you had when you claimed that there are more restrictions on abortion than guns.
CMD
Not part of the reality-based community, are you?
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Heh... I thought one could expect better from a member of $kinner's Einsatzgruppen.
You should try taking lessons from Crazy Aunt Judy on how to sleuth. You could upgrade from completely incompetent to mediocre.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much.
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I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate? Hmmm. Let me think. The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. It's in the bit just about the gun part.
Right place...but you're interpretation of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" is severely in error.
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A damned shame you understand them as well as you do simple economics or gestational development, isn't it?
What counts is how SCOTUS interprets them. That you think it makes it illegal to say Happy Holidays or some such nonsense is irrelevant.
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Am I the only one who has reached the point of boredom with our newest chew toy? My God, she's an insufferable dolt and boring beyond belief. She's proof that higher education does not equal higher intelligence. My cat Lucy has more sense than she does.
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And yesterday I was too smart to be BainsBane. I can't wait to be dazzled by your intelligence.
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:rofl:
Translation: Crap I can't debate the facts so I'll deflect.
I don't suppose you recall the economy collapsing at the end of 2008, a crisis many economics have called the worst since the Great Depression?
Who controlled both Houses of Congress then? Who rammed through Dodd-Frank? Refused to clean up the Freddie/Fannie mess even though they were warned it was about to collapse?
That "worst economy since the Great Depression" meme is old and it's crap. You Liberals were saying that when we had 4.7 percent unemployment and the economy was actually moving somewhere other than down.
44 has been in office for 5 years...the Dems have controlled all or part of Congress for the last seven. It's time you folks act like adults and stop pointing fingers at other people for your own failures.
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If this really is Bainsbane, I'd be interested in reading her dissertation... see just how far out there it is.
It's available through University Microfilms, just like every other dissertation written in the US. You can even get them online now.
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That depends on the state. In MN, parental notification is required. In some states, parental permission is required.
That doesn't answer the question I asked you.
Here let me refresh your memory:
Please explain to me exactly how that it's somehow more complicated or harder to get than buying a weapon legally. in in the U.S. ?
Answer the question.
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So all we have is the good "Doctor's" unimpeachable character and word, huh?
Heh, heh, heh...
DUmmie Alexandra sure does a lot of self deletion, usually following a bout of hyper emotional internet screaming. If I were her, I'd work on developing a better disposition so as not to giver her "enemies" an excuse to finish the job she herself started with sock puppet posting.
Actually I do not self delete a lot. The new rules, however, are changing that.
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That doesn't answer the question I asked you.
Here let me refresh your memory:
Answer the question.
I have covered this already. There is virtually no county in the US where you can't buy a gun. All you need is a driver's license and to not be a felon. In Texas, one now has to travel hundreds of miles to get an abortion. There are very few abortion providers in the red states. Women even have to submit to state mandated rape (transvaginal ultrasound) in some places.
Throughout the past couple of years there have been systematic erosion of abortion rights at the state level. I showed a chart and article from the Washington post that documented as much. Google it yourself.
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And yesterday I was too smart to be BainsBane. I can't wait to be dazzled by your intelligence.
My intelligence is obvious. I'm a conservative and you're a liberal. Liberals are dumb asses, Alex.
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Wasp, I did not suggest you were a DUer moling here, but rather than you have a mole on DU.
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Why won't Frank talk to me? I feel neglected.
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I have covered this already. There is virtually no county in the US where you can't buy a gun. All you need is a driver's license and to not be a felon.
That is a blatant lie.
In Texas, one now has to travel hundreds of miles to get an abortion. There are very few abortion providers in the red states.
Really? Hundreds of miles huh? The ONLY way that is true is if someone lives right smack dab in the middle of the King Ranch or Big Bend State Park. Planned Parenthood is 20 minutes away from where my 16 y/o daughter lives in a town of 100K people.
Your hundreds of miles claim is bullshit.
Women even have to submit to state mandated rape (transvaginal ultrasound) in some places.
Where?
Throughout the past couple of years there have been systematic erosion of abortion rights at the state level.
Your proof of this is?
I showed a chart and article from the Washington post that documented as much. .
Not here you didn't. Show us.
Look BainesBaine...this isn't DU where you can toss out a bunch of random talking points crap and no one will call you on it. Well on second thought DU has been calling you on your specious claims and accusations lately.
That kind of lame brain leftist crap might sound good in the faculty lounge or in a Women's Studies class...but it has a maximum range of zero meters in the real world.
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Why won't Frank talk to me? I feel neglected.
Why would any man want to talk to you?
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Why would any man want to talk to you?
Or talk about me, yet somehow folks here can't seem to resist. I certainly can't explain it.
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Or talk about me, yet somehow folks here can't seem to resist. I certainly can't explain it.
We aren't talking about you, we are making fun of you. Big difference.
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It's available through University Microfilms, just like every other dissertation written in the US. You can even get them online now.
No kidding. I know I'm just a dumb Master's student, but without a last name, it's hard to search.
However, someone was nice. Is it this one?
On the vanguard of civilization" : slavery, the police, and conflicts between public and private power in Salvador da Bahia, Brazil, 1835-1888 / by Alexandra Kelly Brown.
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My intelligence is obvious. I'm a conservative and you're a liberal. Liberals are dumb asses, Alex.
Such a relief to know you cavers aren't close-minded or hateful like us awful liberals. ::)
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Such a relief to know you cavers aren't close-minded or hateful like us awful liberals. ::)
Well, we don't make it a point to celebrate the murder of children, so we've got that going for us.
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Abortion is not a right.
It's just permission granted by the government.
Why won't Frank talk to me? I feel neglected.
He obviously has better things to do...like bathe the cats.
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Me thinks thou doth protest too much.
Then report me. Let the DUmp trinity know that pintobean or MADem is actually Caver wasp69. Let's see another loyal, DUmp democrat chain dragged through $kinner's internet Mogadishu with a scarlet "M" or "T" stapled to its lapel. Let's see if you get it right.
What do you have to lose?
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What counts is how SCOTUS interprets them.
Not really, but thanks for finally admitting your own ignorance in these matters.
That you think it makes it illegal to say Happy Holidays or some such nonsense is irrelevant.
Assuming my position on anything will only bring you humiliation; the relevant point following would be how much of it you would like, dear.
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I have covered this already. There is virtually no county in the US where you can't buy a gun. All you need is a driver's license and to not be a felon. In Texas, one now has to travel hundreds of miles to get an abortion. There are very few abortion providers in the red states. Women even have to submit to state mandated rape (transvaginal ultrasound) in some places.
Throughout the past couple of years there have been systematic erosion of abortion rights at the state level. I showed a chart and article from the Washington post that documented as much. Google it yourself.
You've ignored most of my responses, including my link showing that increased access to contraceptives doesn't reduce the amount of abortions. However, let's see if you can answer me this question.
Why is a ultrasound considered oppression, but the forceps that tear the baby up considered liberation?
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Actually I do not self delete a lot. The new rules, however, are changing that.
So "you" don't self delete alot, but the new rules dictate that "you" self delete a lot.
Wow....
So, if DUmmie BainsBane were to hear a voice other than her own, and take wisdom given, she wouldn't have to "self delete alot". Thanks for validating that.
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Wasp, I did not suggest you were a DUer moling here, but rather than you have a mole on DU.
Yeah, I know...
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Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life. It is essential to human life and to a functioning society. Why is everything about profit to you?
Take a walk on the wild side Girl.
So you have a son who is married 10+ years and wanting a child desperately. Finally after all these years your daughter- in- law gets pregnant. Everyone in the family goes wild, at last their dream comes true.
Both sides of the family are out shopping for baby items by the time the mother-to-be is 3 months along.
Problem, your sons wife has fallen in love with a guy and she was about to get a divorce from your son when she finds out she is pregnant. Her boyfriend wants no children but your son is walking on air. All he can think about, talk about is he is finally going to be a Daddy.
At about 6 months along all the ultra sound and tests it is a boy!!!!!!
The boyfriend puts pressure on the DIL to abort. Your dip-shit DIL madly in love with this looser agrees and they find a clinic that will do the job, a blue light special and she discards this so called tissue at this far along.
How to explain this to both family's that she had miscarried at that point in time. It is the mother of the son that gets suspicious, at 7 months why is there no death certificate,
At no time is there any record of her being hospitalized anywhere. Where was the baby boy that was viable?
Problem here, this child was not something that was cloned from the mother. This baby belonged to not just HER but was belonging to the father as well.
Should not a male have any say about their growing biological child ? Talk about RIGHTS, where is the male rights to have this child born-----it is half his.
The two of them consented to trying to make a baby, once born the father is legally and morally bound to care for HIS child.
When do the rights of a male step in or go out the window. ??
Why should a woman have the right to kill her partners child? This is not a tumor or a wisdom tooth to be pulled, nothing personal to just the mothers body but the child's DNA is also that from the father.
So why cannot men claim their partner for killing their viable child ??????
You want woman's rights, well what about the Male rights to their child ?????
Bothers me that woman have a kid or two and decide to run off with the kids to a Carnival show and the father has to support her life style. What the heck does he get out of this--------one day a week seeing his kids ?
When we speak of Rights they should be equal Men when it comes to Rights are loosing rights left and right.
Men need a right to say what becomes of their DNA there soon to be born.
We are speaking of not just one female---there are three people involved, the mother, the father and the baby. :argh: :argh:
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You're in trouble now Jugs, you have awakened the "Vesta"
So I guess you are OK with TX trying to enforce health and safety standards in abortion clinics, and concede 20 weeks constitutes viability?
And, finally, I AM PINTOBEAN (or Wasp, or something. I'll have to get back to you on that) (Never gets back to you)
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Looking forward to Pintobean and MADem finding out that they're moles
:popcorn:
Who else is on the hit list? Anyone who disagrees?
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Looking forward to Pintobean and MADem finding out that they're moles
:popcorn:
Who else is on the hit list? Anyone who disagrees?
Considering the success of Operation Drag 'Em, where 10 year DUmmie dfk was "liquidated", I am looking forward to phase II.
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As much razzing as we give you Vesta. You made more sense on this post than the spelunker has made in any of hers. Hi5
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On the vanguard of civilization" : slavery, the police, and conflicts between public and private power in Salvador da Bahia, Brazil, 1835-1888 / by Alexandra Kelly Brown.
That is DUmmie BainsBane's name.
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Why won't Frank talk to me? I feel neglected.
As I recall, Stinker won't talk to you either. Perhaps some introspection is in order.
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As much razzing as we give you Vesta. You made more sense on this post than the spelunker has made in any of hers. Hi5
It's impossible to defend infanticide. Liberals like Jugs always try to play the moral superiority card, but in the end, they looks for ways to justify the murder of over 55 million unborn babies. Despicable scumbags.
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Why would any man want to talk to you?
boobiez.
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Looking forward to Pintobean and MADem finding out that they're moles
:popcorn:
Who else is on the hit list? Anyone who disagrees?
The ones that I know of and are not 'our' moles but other places like FR are:
Jefferson23
cthulu 2016
JaneyVee
oberliner
Dwayne_Hicks
ileus
packman
ok cpu
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It's impossible to defend infanticide. Liberals like Jugs always try to play the moral superiority card, but in the end, they looks for ways to justify the murder of over 55 million unborn babies. Despicable scumbags.
H5
Quote from: anti-spelunker on Today at 07:12:31 am
Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life. It is essential to human life and to a functioning society. Why is everything about profit to you?
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I think Alex is an attention whore for men only. And that's her problem. She doesn't get enough attention from men in real life, so she's here to get some.
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:rofl:
I don't suppose you recall the economy collapsing at the end of 2008, a crisis many economics have called the worst since the Great Depression?
Yeah I recall how the economy tanked after Pelosi became speaker of the house.
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The ones that I know of and are not 'our' moles but other places like FR are:
Jefferson23
cthulu 2016
JaneyVee
oberliner
Dwayne_Hicks
ileus
packman
ok cpu
A few of those come as no surprise.
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A few of those come as no surprise.
I thought you were willfully ignorant but, you are really mind numbingly stupid aren't you?
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Then report me. Let the DUmp trinity know that pintobean or MADem is actually Caver wasp69. Let's see another loyal, DUmp democrat chain dragged through $kinner's internet Mogadishu with a scarlet "M" or "T" stapled to its lapel. Let's see if you get it right.
What do you have to lose?
Actually I don't really believe MADem is a mole. That wasn't serious. As for the other one, yeah, I believe it. Of course I have no proof. You could admit you were he right here and now and it would have no impact on your mole's standing on DU. There is no way to tell if anyone here is telling the truth or trying to expose true DUers, or who knows. Skinner would never act on that, and with very good reason. My suspicions amount to nothing, nor by the way do I think they should. Anyone can think someone is a mole. It doesn't make it true.
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It's available through University Microfilms, just like every other dissertation written in the US.
Well, anti-spelunker, if indeed you are BainsBane, and if you are indeed Alexandra Kelly Brown, then I congratulate you on getting your Ph.D. done. I know that that is not easy to do. I have a B.A. in Education (History major/Political Science minor), an M. Div., an S.T.M. (Exegetical Theology), and am "ABD" (All But Dissertation) on a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies. But it's that last part, the dissertation, that I never got around to finishing. Had to get back to work, making money. Not enough time and energy left to get the darn thing done. Academia Highway is littered with the carcasses of "ABDs." And so I commend you. I even gave you a H5. In fact, I may even give you a second H5 for having the balls (is that sexist?) to come over here and engage in the give-and-take with us Neanderthals.
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Yeah I recall how the economy tanked after Pelosi became speaker of the house.
In that case, the current slow growth is entirely the fault of the GOP House.
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You're in trouble now Jugs, you have awakened the "Vesta"
So I guess you are OK with TX trying to enforce health and safety standards in abortion clinics, and concede 20 weeks constitutes viability?
And, finally, I AM PINTOBEAN (or Wasp, or something. I'll have to get back to you on that) (Never gets back to you)
No, I'm not okay with the changes in Texas abortion law, which have the sole purpose of effectively banning abortion in the state. I have made clear I am strong pro-CHOICE, meaning it's the woman's decision to make. I know some people have problems with the idea that abortion is a moral problem and that we should try to avoid it. I disagree. I think we should do everything possible to made birth control and other support services available so fewer unwanted pregnancies occur.
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No, I'm not okay with the changes in Texas abortion law, which have the sole purpose of effectively banning abortion in the state. I have made clear I am strong pro-CHOICE, meaning it's the woman's decision to make. I know some people have problems with the idea that abortion is a moral problem and that we should try to avoid it. I disagree. I think we should do everything possible to made birth control and other support services available so fewer unwanted pregnancies occur.
The law was passed and abortions are happening this very day. They are just safer for the women aborting. As to the rest of your post...Not worth responding to.
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In that case, the current slow growth is entirely the fault of the GOP House.
Really? You wanna stick to that claim? Last time I looked the House has passed a budget every year since 2009 and Obama hasn't signed one yet. His budgets can't even get a vote from Dems in the Senate.
Republicans have made stomach churning compromises and your hero has refused to negotiate or even talk to Republicans.
Obamacare is the reason business sucks. If it weren't for Qualitative Easing....the Fed artificially inflating the stock market this economy...run by this President would be even worse.
It's Obama's mess. And it's about time you Libtards
:ownit:
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No, I'm not okay with the changes in Texas abortion law, which have the sole purpose of effectively banning abortion in the state.
Except that it doesn't.
I have made clear I am strong pro-CHOICE, meaning it's the woman's decision to make.
You're not pro choice you're pro murder. You're just too chickenshit to say what you really believe.
You champion an organization (Planned Parenthood) that was founded by an avowed racist for the express purpose of expanding the practice of Eugenics in order to exterminate blacks.
I think we should do everything possible to made birth control and other support services available so fewer unwanted pregnancies occur.
Please point out any Republican politician that is claiming they will prevent birth control from being accessible.?
How much more widespread do you want it? Kids can go to the nurse at school...male and female and get birth control and again...without their parents knowledge.
What the hell are you striving for? Gift packs of IUD's pills and the sponge included in every baby basket that leaves the hospital?
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I thought you were willfully ignorant but, you are really mind numbingly stupid aren't you?
I can see those charm school classes are paying off.
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Except that it doesn't.
You're not pro choice you're pro murder. You're just too chickenshit to say what you really believe.
You champion an organization (Planned Parenthood) that was founded by an avowed racist for the express purpose of expanding the practice of Eugenics in order to exterminate blacks.
Please point out any Republican politician that is claiming they will prevent birth control from being accessible.?
How much more widespread do you want it? Kids can go to the nurse at school...male and female and get birth control and again...without their parents knowledge.
What the hell are you striving for? Gift packs of IUD's pills and the sponge included in every baby basket that leaves the hospital?
She is starting to bore me. First off, she uses our flag as her avatar, but she does not understand how federalism works. She has a PHD, but apparently never took a civics course.
She never addressed the link I provided which showed that increased access to birth control did not lead to a decrease in the amount of abortions.
She also did not address how an ultrasound wand was considered rape, while bloody forceps are considered liberation.
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Take a walk on the wild side Girl.
So you have a son who is married 10+ years and wanting a child desperately. Finally after all these years your daughter- in- law gets pregnant. Everyone in the family goes wild, at last their dream comes true.
Both sides of the family are out shopping for baby items by the time the mother-to-be is 3 months along.
Problem, your sons wife has fallen in love with a guy and she was about to get a divorce from your son when she finds out she is pregnant. Her boyfriend wants no children but your son is walking on air. All he can think about, talk about is he is finally going to be a Daddy.
At about 6 months along all the ultra sound and tests it is a boy!!!!!!
The boyfriend puts pressure on the DIL to abort. Your dip-shit DIL madly in love with this looser agrees and they find a clinic that will do the job, a blue light special and she discards this so called tissue at this far along.
How to explain this to both family's that she had miscarried at that point in time. It is the mother of the son that gets suspicious, at 7 months why is there no death certificate,
At no time is there any record of her being hospitalized anywhere. Where was the baby boy that was viable?
Problem here, this child was not something that was cloned from the mother. This baby belonged to not just HER but was belonging to the father as well.
Should not a male have any say about their growing biological child ? Talk about RIGHTS, where is the male rights to have this child born-----it is half his.
The two of them consented to trying to make a baby, once born the father is legally and morally bound to care for HIS child.
When do the rights of a male step in or go out the window. ??
Why should a woman have the right to kill her partners child? This is not a tumor or a wisdom tooth to be pulled, nothing personal to just the mothers body but the child's DNA is also that from the father.
So why cannot men claim their partner for killing their viable child ??????
You want woman's rights, well what about the Male rights to their child ?????
Bothers me that woman have a kid or two and decide to run off with the kids to a Carnival show and the father has to support her life style. What the heck does he get out of this--------one day a week seeing his kids ?
When we speak of Rights they should be equal Men when it comes to Rights are loosing rights left and right.
Men need a right to say what becomes of their DNA there soon to be born.
We are speaking of not just one female---there are three people involved, the mother, the father and the baby. :argh: :argh:
What you describe is a very sad scenario, and my heart would go out to the father involved. I would also have to wonder WTF is the woman's problem to let a boyfriend talk her into having an abortion. Now, my understanding is that 6 months is too late to have in abortion. So the woman may not be able to abort. But say she is within the range when abortion is legal, it remains her right because it is her baby. The father cannot wage a law suit for murder against her (only the state can do that) because by law a fetus is not a legal person. Again, a very sad scenario all the way around but not something a man can control. The fetus remains part of the woman's body.
There are also some men who think that if a woman doesn't follow his command and get an abortion, they should not have to pay child support. That is even more ****ed up. I would guess you would not agree that have that right. Is that correct?
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Well, anti-spelunker, if indeed you are BainsBane, and if you are indeed Alexandra Kelly Brown, then I congratulate you on getting your Ph.D. done. I know that that is not easy to do. I have a B.A. in Education (History major/Political Science minor), an M. Div., an S.T.M. (Exegetical Theology), and am "ABD" (All But Dissertation) on a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies. But it's that last part, the dissertation, that I never got around to finishing. Had to get back to work, making money. Not enough time and energy left to get the darn thing done. Academia Highway is littered with the carcasses of "ABDs." And so I commend you. I even gave you a H5. In fact, I may even give you a second H5 for having the balls (is that sexist?) to come over here and engage in the give-and-take with us Neanderthals.
Thanks. If that is me and I did write a dissertation, that would be a nice thing to say.
There is another possibility. What if I am Pintobean pretending to be Jugs? Or Wasp/BadDog as Pintobean pretending to be Jugs?
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Thanks. If that is me and I did write a dissertation, that would be a nice thing to say.
There is another possibility. What if I am Pintobean pretending to be Jugs? Or Wasp/BadDog as Pintobean pretending to be Jugs?
We would still think you're a worthless POS.
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We would still think you're a worthless POS.
It's funny how she selectively ignores the posts that challenge her lies and bullshit.
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In that case, the current slow growth is entirely the fault of the GOP House.
That makes sense, since it only takes one house to pass budgets.
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Thanks. If that is me and I did write a dissertation, that would be a nice thing to say.
There is another possibility. What if I am Pintobean pretending to be Jugs? Or Wasp/BadDog as Pintobean pretending to be Jugs?
Alright, here is a test. You can prove you are BainsBane/Alexandra Kelly Brown by answering a couple quick questions:
Tell us some things about slavery in Brazil in the 1800s that AKB would know but an impostor would not. And say some things in Portuguese--I assume you know that language if you did Ph.D. work about Brazil.
Also, relate how you got from Texas to Florida to Minnesota.
If you can do these things quickly and intelligently and believably, that would indicate that you are who you claim to be.
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Actually I don't really believe MADem is a mole. That wasn't serious. As for the other one, yeah, I believe it. Of course I have no proof. You could admit you were he right here and now and it would have no impact on your mole's standing on DU. There is no way to tell if anyone here is telling the truth or trying to expose true DUers, or who knows. Skinner would never act on that, and with very good reason. My suspicions amount to nothing, nor by the way do I think they should. Anyone can think someone is a mole. It doesn't make it true.
Then why did you bring it up in the first place?
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No, I'm not okay with the changes in Texas abortion law, which have the sole purpose of effectively banning abortion in the state.
Honestly, have you read the legislation Wendy Davis opposed?
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There is another possibility. What if I am Pintobean pretending to be Jugs? Or Wasp/BadDog as Pintobean pretending to be Jugs?
:lmao:
That earned a H5from me.
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A few of those come as no surprise.
Of course not. As far as I know there are 13 active moles on DU from the members of this site. A few are 6 digit moles who have been in place since at least 2004- although I suppose there are some still there since the beginning.
The most famous, IMHO was bobolink, or bobo the hobo as she was known here. Her controller finally just burned out on the hate it took to keep her alive at the DUmp and she just disappeared. POOF! It was only fate that she and I were in the same area of Colorado at the very same time.
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Not part of the reality-based community, are you?
Scathing reply. :yawn:
Tell you what, missy...
List the things that legally disqualify one from having an abortion, and we'll compare that to things that legally disqualify one from gun ownership...
"More restrictions on abortion..." my ass.
CMD
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In that case, the current slow growth is entirely the fault of the GOP House.
And the democrat senate too. In 2008 the dems had both houses and W was a lame duck.
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Alright, here is a test. You can prove you are BainsBane/Alexandra Kelly Brown by answering a couple quick questions:
Tell us some things about slavery in Brazil in the 1800s that AKB would know but an impostor would not. And say some things in Portuguese--I assume you know that language if you did Ph.D. work about Brazil.
Also, relate how you got from Texas to Florida to Minnesota.
If you can do these things quickly and intelligently and believably, that would indicate that you are who you claim to be.
Won't do any good Charles. When last she visited, she asserted her PhD made her more intelligent than my MS in Geophysics and my MS in Computer Science makes me.
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Everyone knows it's BainsBane (sung to the tune of Everyone knows its Wendy)
Chorus
"And BainsBane has thunder thighs,
Her bras are all soup-er size,
She really hates all the guys,
talk back and she bawls and crys, (alert! alert!)
Who passed gas?
What is that smell?
What is that smell?
Everyone knows it's BainesBane!
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Everyone knows it's BainsBane (sung to the tune of Everyone knows its Wendy)
Chorus
"And BainsBane has thunder thighs,
Her bras are all soup-er size,
She really hates all the guys,
talk back and she bawls and crys, (alert! alert!)
Who passed gas?
What is that smell?
What is that smell?
Everyone knows it's BainesBane!
One can only wonder what one might come up with, using "everyone knows its slinky"...
CMD
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Won't do any good Charles. When last she visited, she asserted her PhD made her more intelligent than my MS in Geophysics and my MS in Computer Science makes me.
My cousin has PhD's coming out the yazoo, but he couldn't support himself even if he tried and when everyone sees him coming they :runaway:
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PhD=one trick pony.
So blatantly specialized in one narrow subject, that they ignore everything else.
Has tendency to feel superior to all others. False authority syndrome is a characteristic indication.
Fortunately, it's a lie. They are quite ignorant of life and reality.
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I think Alex is an attention whore for men only. And that's her problem. She doesn't get enough attention from men in real life, so she's here to get some.
Right. The feminazi schtick is purposefully designed to make me popular with the boys. ::)
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Then why did you bring it up in the first place?
Because you brought that argument over here. Also, why are you so intent on siding with him? What do you care about one dummie vs. another? You seem a bit too personally involved,
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Alright, here is a test. You can prove you are BainsBane/Alexandra Kelly Brown by answering a couple quick questions:
Tell us some things about slavery in Brazil in the 1800s that AKB would know but an impostor would not. And say some things in Portuguese--I assume you know that language if you did Ph.D. work about Brazil.
Also, relate how you got from Texas to Florida to Minnesota.
If you can do these things quickly and intelligently and believably, that would indicate that you are who you claim to be.
BainsBane is way too stupid to write a dissertation.
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I think Alex is an attention whore for men only. And that's her problem. She doesn't get enough attention from men in real life, so she's here to get some.
Pity. Psycho-bitches never enjoy lasting relationships.
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It's funny how she selectively ignores the posts that challenge her lies and bullshit.
What would you have me say? What kind of piece of shit am I?
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What would you have me say? What kind of piece of shit am I?
accepting the truth is the first step to recovery
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And the democrat senate too. In 2008 the dems had both houses and W was a lame duck.
That's the kind of response that makes clear someone isn't really interested in the actual causes of economic crisis and preventing a future one but instead concerned only with party; party over country, tribalism.
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BainsBane is way too stupid to write a dissertation.
But on DU BainsBane has stated that she has written a dissertation, on slavery in Brazil in the 1800s, and that she did receive a Ph.D. And I've seen her write with knowledge about the subject. So if you are she, then I know you should be able to do so also, right?
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That's the kind of response that makes clear someone isn't really interested in the actual causes of economic crisis and preventing a future one but instead concerned only with party; party over country, tribalism.
I have to admit, only a DUer could fully understand tribalism.
(Mannn expects the irony to be lost on her)
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But on DU BainsBane has stated that she has written a dissertation, on slavery in Brazil in the 1800s, and that she did receive a Ph.D. And I've seen her write with knowledge about the subject. So if you are she, then I know you should be able to do so also, right?
Write with knowledge of the subject? You're going to be pilloried for that one. I was specifically told that I couldn't possibly be BainsBane because I'm not stupid enough, while she is a blithering idiot.
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That's the kind of response that makes clear someone isn't really interested in the actual causes of economic crisis and preventing a future one but instead concerned only with party; party over country, tribalism.
No I just pointed out the fact that once the democrats took over this country declined, yeah we have the house but the do nothing senate and the golf playing preezy have done nothing to make things better. To make matters worse they still blame a Bush for everything bad that has happened in the last 5 years. So tell me who's only concerned with party, it ain't us sister.
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In order to be a little off topic I offer this article.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57617101-71/scientist-cats-think-you-are-just-a-big-stupid-cat/
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No I just pointed out the fact that once the democrats took over this country declined, yeah we have the house but the do nothing senate and the golf playing preezy have done nothing to make things better. To make matters worse they still blame a Bush for everything bad that has happened in the last 5 years. So tell me who's only concerned with party, it ain't us sister.
You blamed the crisis first on Obama, then on the Democratic House, including Pelosi. You demonstrated no interest in discussing the causes of the collapse.
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You blamed the crisis first on Obama, then on the Democratic House, including Pelosi. You demonstrated no interest in discussing the causes of the collapse.
Answer: Obama, then on the Democratic House, including Pelosi.
Discuss.
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You blamed the crisis first on Obama, then on the Democratic House, including Pelosi. You demonstrated no interest in discussing the causes of the collapse.
I know you think the cause is that evil Bush.
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But on DU BainsBane has stated that she has written a dissertation, on slavery in Brazil in the 1800s, and that she did receive a Ph.D. And I've seen her write with knowledge about the subject. So if you are she, then I know you should be able to do so also, right?
eh... no point.
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I know you think the cause is that evil Bush.
No, that is not how I would approach the subject. I would examine the policies that led to credit default swaps and similar precarious trading. Some of those policies began under Clinton and they accelerated under Bush. There are many articles about this online you can read yourself.
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But on DU BainsBane has stated that she has written a dissertation, on slavery in Brazil in the 1800s, and that she did receive a Ph.D. And I've seen her write with knowledge about the subject. So if you are she, then I know you should be able to do so also, right?
Seriously, you guys have way too much personal information about me. I'm not giving out more. You don't need to believe I am she, or that BainsBane is the person you name. It doesn't really matter.
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If we "hear pretty often" of prominent conservatives or evangelical Christians forcing women to have abortions, it should be easy for you to name some.
Name ten.
No?
OK, name five.
Still a no-go?
Two?
Hmmm....
How about one? Just one?
If you can name one "prominent conservative conservative or evangelical" who forced a woman to have an abortion, I'll cede your point.
Unanswered. Not surprising.
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Right. The feminazi schtick is purposefully designed to make me popular with the boys. ::)
Attention.whore.
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Because you brought that argument over here. Also, why are you so intent on siding with him? What do you care about one dummie vs. another? You seem a bit too personally involved,
You misunderstood my motivations, so I will attempt to explain.
One of my favorite scenes of all time is when Dr Frankenstein recoils in horror at what he has created, followed shortly thereafter of his realization that the blasphemy he brought into the world (by trying to play God) has grown into a malignancy he can neither control nor kill. It's a brilliant metaphor about narcissistic arrogance and its predictable results.
Absolutely fantastic!
Blue on blue slapfights between a smarter-than-everyone-in-the-room liberal and a screaming, unreasonable, leftist ideologue bring that scene to vivid life. It's better than live theater, it really is. That is a big reason it's over here. Otherwise, it's a testimony as to how tired of the good "Doctor's" shenanigans even DUmp howler monkeys are becoming.
I pick no sides because I hope it turns into a nuclear war where there are no survivors; I have no vested interest beyond a good giggle at the scratching and hair pulling; and, quite frankly, the "stuck in transmit" comment was too good to leave behind.
Does that clear things up for you?
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Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life. It is essential to human life and to a functioning society.
"Healthcare" is goods and services. It is Property. Your natural right to Property extends only as far as your capacity to create, earn, or trade (buy and sell) it. Again, your rights do not create a claim against another person's life, liberty, or property (in this case, a doctor or hospital's goods or services).
Calling it "essential" still doesn't create a right to the goods or services of another person. It doesn't even create an enforceable claim to the goods or services of another person. You can't take, or even demand it, just because you say you "need" it.
(Edited for clarity)
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No, that is not how I would approach the subject. I would examine the policies that led to credit default swaps and similar precarious trading. Some of those policies began under Clinton and they accelerated under Bush. There are many articles about this online you can read yourself.
There are articles online? And here I thought all there was was porn.
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"Healthcare" is goods and services. It is Property. Your natural right to Property extends only as far as your capacity to create, earn, or trade (buy and sell) it. Again, your rights do not create a claim against another person's life, liberty, or property (in this case, a doctor or hospital's goods or services).
Calling it "essential" still doesn't create a right to the goods or services of another person. It doesn't even create an enforceable claim to the goods or services of another person. You can't take, or even demand it, just because you say you "need" it.
(Edited for clarity)
Liberals even believe that internet access is a right. Anything they want they are willing to lie and call it a right.
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Alex,
You posted 27 times on this thread today between 9:00 AM and 4:00 PM.
Does the university know what you are doing on their time- and on their dime?
More importantly, what does this say about your attitude toward the taxpayers of Minnesota who pay your salary?
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Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life. It is essential to human life and to a functioning society. Why is everything about profit to you?
You have expressed your willingness to enslave your doctor, and take the property of your hospital and pharmacist without recompense, in the name of your "need".
What would you take from me?
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Alright, here is a test. You can prove you are BainsBane/Alexandra Kelly Brown by answering a couple quick questions:
Tell us some things about slavery in Brazil in the 1800s that AKB would know but an impostor would not. And say some things in Portuguese--I assume you know that language if you did Ph.D. work about Brazil.
Also, relate how you got from Texas to Florida to Minnesota.
If you can do these things quickly and intelligently and believably, that would indicate that you are who you claim to be.
I have a better idea, Charles:
(http://grants.cla.umn.edu/assets/img/brown.jpg)
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You have expressed your willingness to enslave your doctor, and take the property of your hospital and pharmacist without recompense, in the name of your "need".
What would you take from me?
Your guns so there would be no resistance when the locusts came for the rest.
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Your guns so there would be no resistance when the locusts came for the rest.
A disarmed peasantry would make that theft much easier.
Wouldn't it, Alex?
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That right there is the epitome of conservatism. Perfectly stated. Hi-5.
I have my moments.
:-)
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You're in trouble now Jugs, you have awakened the "Vesta"
So I guess you are OK with TX trying to enforce health and safety standards in abortion clinics, and concede 20 weeks constitutes viability?
And, finally, I AM PINTOBEAN (or Wasp, or something. I'll have to get back to you on that) (Never gets back to you)
I AM PINTOBEAN.
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"Healthcare" is goods and services. It is Property. Your natural right to Property extends only as far as your capacity to create, earn, or trade (buy and sell) it. Again, your rights do not create a claim against another person's life, liberty, or property (in this case, a doctor or hospital's goods or services).
Calling it "essential" still doesn't create a right to the goods or services of another person. It doesn't even create an enforceable claim to the goods or services of another person. You can't take, or even demand it, just because you say you "need" it.
(Edited for clarity)
Healthcare is "property"? Are human beings also property?
As for the rest. No pot roast for you, Big Dog. Here I thought we were bridging the political divide.
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Healthcare is "property"? Are human beings also property?
As for the rest. No pot roast for you, Big Dog. Here I thought we were bridging the political divide.
Aka agreeing with a lib.
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Unanswered. Not surprising.
Here's one. His wife got two abortions. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/16/tennessee-republican-gave-testimony-detailing-wifes-abortions/
Here is a general article by Gary Bauer about men coercing women into having abortions. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/17/gary-bauer-and-daniel-allott-on-forced-abortions/2432769/ Of course his point is to absolve conservatives of responsibility, but nothing he provides says "liberals" are more likely to coerce women into having abortions. In fact, liberals believe that choice is the woman's.
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Attention.whore.
Who is it desperate for attention from men?
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Healthcare is "property"?
Yes, healthcare is property.
Your doctor's skill and experience, and his legal authority to prescribe medications, belong to him, and you have no right to them.
Your local hospital's building, beds, operating rooms, and contents (everything from MRI machines to bedpans) belong to them, and you have no right to them.
Your pharmacist's inventory of medications, which he purchased from a wholesaler or manufacturer, are his, and you have no right to them.
No matter how much you may "need" them.
As for the rest. No pot roast for you, Big Dog. Here I thought we were bridging the political divide.
If you take the time to check out this thread (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93949.0.html), you will see that is not the case.
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Who is it desperate for attention form men?
How dare you form men ?
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Of course his point is to absolve conservatives of responsibility, but nothing he provides says "liberals" are more likely to coerce women into having abortions. In fact, liberals believe that choice is the woman's.
There are some websites out there dedicated to women who are heartbroken over having had abortions. You really should educate yourself on the life long damage abortion does to women . Those who bought into the left's propaganda of "it's only tissue" and who felt coerced by the abortion mills like planned parenthood.
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More on the anti-choice teabagger doctor forcing women to have abortions. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/10/report-anti-choice-republican-forced-mistress-to-have-an-abortion/
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Yes, healthcare is property.
If you take the time to check out this thread (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93949.0.html), you will see that is not the case.
Does your concept of liberty include my not having the right to think and vote how I choose?
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More on the anti-choice teabagger doctor forcing women to have abortions. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/10/report-anti-choice-republican-forced-mistress-to-have-an-abortion/
How dare you ?
I would be willing to bet that doctor voted for your messiah twice.
But, even so is the point you're trying to make is that conservatives are hypocritical about abortion that makes abortion morally acceptable ?
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There are some websites out there dedicated to women who are heartbroken over having had abortions. You really should educate yourself on the life long damage abortion does to women . Those who bought into the left's propaganda of "it's only tissue" and who felt coerced by the abortion mills like planned parenthood.
So what would you do? Imprison those women? Force them to give birth and then starve the children to death because you're too cheap to pay taxes for anything other than murdering people abroad? Deny women access to abortion so we go back to the days of back alley abortions were women died? Hey, dead women, all a plus for the GOP.
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Healthcare is "property"? Are human beings also property?
As for the rest. No pot roast for you, Big Dog. Here I thought we were bridging the political divide.
Healthcare is services and physical property in the process of providing care for people. A doctor provides healthcare (a service) using a healthcare facility (property) and medical supplies (property).
I think what you are trying to say is access to healthcare. If it is a basic human right to have access to the above then are you saying that basic human rights should be free to everyone?
If so who does pay for all the services and property used for that access?
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You have expressed your willingness to enslave your doctor, and take the property of your hospital and pharmacist without recompense, in the name of your "need".
What would you take from me?
How is healthcare anymore property than education or the military, both of which are funded by public dollars? All are services. Do you want no public schools? Do you want to go back to the days of private armies that paid themselves through pillaging? Or is it only the maintenance of human life, and not its killing, that is too insignificant to be a public right?
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Who is it desperate for attention form men?
It's obvious you are desperate for attention from men. I've been a part of this group here for five years+. If I really wanted attention from the men here, I'd put on a bright red sweater and have a picture taken and post it on a public message board. Oh wait, that's what YOU did.
I have a husband who pays plenty of attention to me. I'm comfortable in my own skin that I don't need constant attention. I'm sure in your warped liberal mind, you think he probably forces himself on me.
I did show my husband your picture and his only comment was that you were maybe 1/4 of a step up from Nadin. That's not a compliment, my dear.
The only attention whore here is you, Alex.
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How dare you ?
I would be willing to bet that doctor voted for your messiah twice.
But, even so is the point you're trying to make is that conservatives are hypocritical about abortion that makes abortion morally acceptable ?
He's a Republican House member. Typical teabagger attitude. All about me. Whatever I want. People living off government subsidies is wrong, unless it's them. Their disability is earned, everyone else is a freeloader. That epitomizes exactly what the tea party stands for. The guy votes AGAINST abortion rights while forcing women to have them because it's all about what he wants, forcing women to do as he says.
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Here's one. His wife got two abortions. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/16/tennessee-republican-gave-testimony-detailing-wifes-abortions/
Here is a general article by Gary Bauer about men coercing women into having abortions. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/17/gary-bauer-and-daniel-allott-on-forced-abortions/2432769/ Of course his point is to absolve conservatives of responsibility, but nothing he provides says "liberals" are more likely to coerce women into having abortions. In fact, liberals believe that choice is the woman's.
You're moving the goalposts, Alex. That kind of shit may work over at the DUmp, but you're sitting at the grown-up table now.
Your words, and I quote, were "Seems like we hear pretty often of some prominent conservative or evangelical that tries to force a woman into having an abortion.". The key words: "prominent conservative or evangelical" and "tries to force a woman to have an abortion". For your statement to be true, both elements must be true.
Your first citation said "An anti-abortion Republican congressman from Tennessee, first elected in 2010 with support from tea party activists, testified at divorce proceedings in 2001 that he and his wife mutually agreed on her getting two abortions, according to court transcripts released to CNN Friday." No force there. Fail #1.
Second citation: No "prominent conservatives or evangelicals" listed. Fail #2.
Wanna mulligan?
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Aka agreeing with a lib.
No, I was thinking more of getting along despite political differences.
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I did show my husband your picture and his only comment was that you were maybe 1/4 of a step up from Nadin. That's not a compliment, my dear.
Ha. I like your husband.
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Does your concept of liberty include my not having the right to think and vote how I choose?
Trying to change the subject?
Focus, Alex. Focus.
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It's obvious you are desperate for attention from men. I've been a part of this group here for five years+. If I really wanted attention from the men here, I'd put on a bright red sweater and have a picture taken and post it on a public message board. Oh wait, that's what YOU did.
I have a husband who pays plenty of attention to me. I'm comfortable in my own skin that I don't need constant attention. I'm sure in your warped liberal mind, you think he probably forces himself on me.
I did show my husband your picture and his only comment was that you were maybe 1/4 of a step up from Nadin. That's not a compliment, my dear.
The only attention whore here is you, Alex.
I missed the memo where women aren't allowed to wear red. Why do I give a **** what your husband thinks, or you for that matter? That kind of comment shows you're a woman who hates other women. I have no patience for such pettiness. Go back to following your husband's orders and leave me alone.
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Ha. I like your husband.
I like my husband, too. :cheersmate:
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I missed the memo where women aren't allowed to wear red. Why do I give a **** what your husband thinks, or you for that matter? That kind of comment shows you're a woman who hates other women. I have no patience for such pettiness. Go back to following your husband's orders and leave me alone.
Empty words from an empty mind.
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You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
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More on the anti-choice teabagger doctor forcing women to have abortions. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/10/report-anti-choice-republican-forced-mistress-to-have-an-abortion/
Rawstory? Really?!? What's next? Mother Jones?
Tell me, DUmmie, do your deviant friends know you're using one of their favorite activities as a pejorative against your "enemies"?
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You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
Really? Care to remind everyone here why you were banned the first time you showed up here? I don't recall anyone here inviting you back.
Yeah, go ahead and lecture us about hate, you overeducated simpleton.
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Does your concept of liberty include my not having the right to think and vote how I choose?
Gawd almighty.... Don't set that strawman on fire when you light the bong later, DUmbass. :whatever:
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He's a Republican House member. Typical teabagger attitude. All about me. Whatever I want. People living off government subsidies is wrong, unless it's them. Their disability is earned, everyone else is a freeloader. That epitomizes exactly what the tea party stands for. The guy votes AGAINST abortion rights while forcing women to have them because it's all about what he wants, forcing women to do as he says.
The difference between Republicans and Democrats;
Top Republican leaders back Jim Tracy over U.S. Rep. Scott DesJarlais
DesJarlais, a South Pittsburg physician first elected in 2010, has been embroiled in controversy since the latter part of his 2012 race following revelations that he in 2000 had an affair with a patient and encouraged her to obtain an abortion when she said she was pregnant.
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How dare you ?
You'll get along fine if you are honest and tell the truth.
Any subterfuge or intellectual dishonesty is challenged right away.
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Healthcare is "property"? Are human beings also property?
Liberals consider unborn babies that are human beings, to be their property and they can dispose of them at will.
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It's obvious you are desperate for attention from men. I've been a part of this group here for five years+. If I really wanted attention from the men here, I'd put on a bright red sweater and have a picture taken and post it on a public message board. Oh wait, that's what YOU did.
I have a husband who pays plenty of attention to me. I'm comfortable in my own skin that I don't need constant attention. I'm sure in your warped liberal mind, you think he probably forces himself on me.
I did show my husband your picture and his only comment was that you were maybe 1/4 of a step up from Nadin. That's not a compliment, my dear.
The only attention whore here is you, Alex.
Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
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How is healthcare anymore property than education or the military, both of which are funded by public dollars? All are services. Do you want no public schools? Do you want to go back to the days of private armies that paid themselves through pillaging? Or is it only the maintenance of human life, and not its killing, that is too insignificant to be a public right?
Bad news for you, kid. There ain't no such thing as a "public right."
The fact that you believe there is, says it all.
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You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
What's the matter, dear? Getting your sorry ass kicked? Nobody buying your bullshit? Hard to learn your propaganda doesn't survive first contact with reality? Cognitive dissonance making your ears ring?
(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy0xNjI2NGE4NDk1OWE5ZWM0.png)
Cry me a river...
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No, I was thinking more of getting along despite political differences.
It's more than political differences. If you had followed the link I gave you, you'd understand that.
i take this liberty stuff seriously.
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Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
Go **** yourself. I'm sure no one else would want to come near your skanky ass.
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That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law.
So in this thread you state 25,000 people(we are lead to believe) are killed by guns. But in the freeloading free for all on skins island thread you state this:
If they weren't so efficient at killing people, including children, I could ignore them. 32,000 deaths a year should not be ignored
Which figure is it 25,000 or 32,000? Please show your work.
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Oh look. She ran away.
:rotf:
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If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good,
What in the Hell are you yammering about?
but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law.
"Property" posted on an open forum, available for all to see and save... Heh...
That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
What is your problem, DUmmie? Don't you like sexual deviants? Isn't two men kissing each other's parts a sacrament to you freaks?
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Go **** yourself. I'm sure no one else would want to come near your skanky ass.
I would say "how dare you?", but it's so appropriate.
I've never seen the referenced picture, and never would want to.
Some women are so repulsive on the inside, that no one wants to be around them no matter how attractive they might be.
From what I understand about you bane, your inside and outside are about as attractive as something the cat had in the alley.
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If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good.
As opposed to the 1.2 million abortions a year?
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I would say "how dare you?", but it's so appropriate.
I've never seen the referenced picture, and never would want to.
Some women are so repulsive on the inside, that no one wants to be around them no matter how attractive they might be.
From what I understand about you bane, your inside and outside are about as attractive as something the cat had in the alley.
I normally conduct myself in a more respectable manner towards all people but she's not really people. She's more like soylent green.
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Am I a teabagger?
No, but I do double dip. Sometimes I even double dunk!
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I normally conduct myself in a more respectable manner towards all people but she's not really people. She's more like soylent green.
Now I can say...
How dare you ?
Soylent green is people !
Spolier alert !
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Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
(http://i.imgur.com/IcX7G.jpg)
Good luck with that.
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This looks like as good a place as any:
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/977248/Mctock01Spanking1.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/IcX7G.jpg)
Good luck with that.
:runaway: :runaway:
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Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
Yeah, about that.
Isn't that the picture from the University's website? I'm pretty sure it is.
It looks like you need to take this matter up with the University of Minnesota, Alex.
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Am I a teabagger?
No, but I do double dip. Sometimes I even double dunk!
Why do they keep calling us teabaggers? I've never joined or ever gone to one of their meetings.
All I know about them is that they want smaller government and lower taxes.
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No, I was thinking more of getting along despite political differences.
You mean like this?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:03 PM
Star Member BainsBane (22,366 posts)
56. This doesn't look good for the country
I was hoping they would be some fringe domestic group because then the fallout would be less significant. Imagine all the shit Fox and the Repugs are going to raise if these guys turn out to be Muslim. The fear mongering and finger pointing is going to be intense.
I think of how terrified everyone was by 9-11, and it was indeed awful. Yet far more Americans died in Iraq and Afghanistan than during the 9/11 attacks. More people have died form guns since Sandyhook than died in 9-11, yet few pay attention to that.
Pictures of Boston bombing suspects from the FBI. Updated w/video (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022702986#post56)
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Why do they keep calling us teabaggers?
It makes the DUmmies' naughty bits tingle.
All I know about them is that they want smaller government and lower taxes.
DUmmies react to those two ideas like vampires to holy water, as Alex demonstrated.
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Good catch Chris !
bane...
How dare you ?
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Yeah, about that.
Isn't that the picture from the University's website? I'm pretty sure it is.
It looks like you need to take this matter up with the University of Minnesota, Alex.
I think she's talking about the profile in red Saran Wrap picture, BD. I linked the "official" picture from the U of M website to see if that was really DUmmie Alexandra we're dealing with. I'll tell you why some other time.
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I think she's talking about the profile in red Saran Wrap picture, BD. I linked the "official" picture from the U of M website to see if that was really DUmmie Alexandra we're dealing with. I'll tell you why some other time.
Then one of you will tell me ?
I don't repeat gossip, so listen closely the first time !
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I need to hurry up and finish my Levin book so that I can send it to her.
But only if she promises to read it.
Such as promises from libs go.
Her address is on file in The Dossier Forum.
I can mail her a copy.
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I think she's talking about the profile in red Saran Wrap picture, BD. I linked the "official" picture from the U of M website to see if that was really DUmmie Alexandra we're dealing with. I'll tell you why some other time.
Got it.
I was busy giving her the Full McClintock, and got the pictures confused.
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You mean like this?
Pictures of Boston bombing suspects from the FBI. Updated w/video (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022702986#post56)
And who could forget this classic from DUmmie Alexandra on the day of the Boston bombing?
Now don't you have some more bombs to set off?
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,86050.msg1068215.html#msg1068215
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Then one of you will tell me ?
I don't repeat gossip, so listen closely the first time !
I promise, pinky swear.
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I was busy giving her the Full McClintock, and got the pictures confused.
Does it make us old that I know exactly what you're talking about?
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Does it make us old that I know exactly what you're talking about?
Yes.
Yes, it does.
:lmao:
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Yes.
Yes, it does.
:lmao:
Ah, well... I guess I'll don a skin tight shirt and take pictures to make myself feel better.
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Oh, shit! Are we gonna have to reset the ACTIONABLE WATCH clock?
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I AM PINTOBEAN.
WE ARE ALL PINTOBEAN.
CMD
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Does your concept of liberty include my not having the right to think and vote how I choose?
Voting in any particular direction, no more transforms health care into a right, than it causes (gratuitous iverglasism) the moon to be made of green cheese.
CMD
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Go **** yourself. I'm sure no one else would want to come near your skanky ass.
Yes, I can see that you have absolutely no respect for property or the law, What does that compare next to your need to be vindictive against another woman simply for existing. You're obviously projecting about the male attention thing. You got nastily catty because you weren't getting all the attention. You're clearly pathetically desperate for online male attention, so I am more than happy to leave you to it.
BigDog, obviously not the U of M picture. I'm talking about the one the chronically insecure traveshamockery felt compelled to print out and show to her husband, and the one someone else here posted in the past couple of weeks.
That Traveshmockery even felt a need to bother to show the pic to her husband is revealing. (Oh, no. They aren't looking at me. I must feel prettier, even if I have nothing whatsoever to say). I know the type. Not a female friend, hates women, insults other women because she feels in constant competition with them and thinks it earns her points with the boys. Really that kind of behavior demonstrates a very sad self-loathing toward your own womanhood.
Peace.
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Aka agreeing with a lib.
She thought she had that Hegelian dialectic thing going on.
Not so much.
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What does that compare next to your need to be vindictive against another woman simply for existing.
Says she who thinks, believes, feels, and states that people are entitled to the goods and services of others, simply for existing.
CMD
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Yes, I can see that you have absolutely no respect for property or the law, What does that compare next to your need to be vindictive against another woman simply for existing. You're obviously projecting about the male attention thing. You got nastily catty because you weren't getting all the attention. You're clearly pathetically desperate for online male attention, so I am more than happy to leave you to it.
BigDog, obviously not the U of M picture. I'm talking about the one the chronically insecure traveshamockery felt compelled to print out and show to her husband, and the one someone else here posted in the past couple of weeks.
That Traveshmockery even felt a need to bother to show the pic to her husband is revealing. (Oh, no. They aren't looking at me. I must feel prettier, even if I have nothing whatsoever to say). I know the type. Not a female friend, hates women, insults other women because she feels in constant competition with them and thinks it earns her points with the boys. Really that kind of behavior demonstrates a very sad self-loathing toward your own womanhood.
Peace.
I showed a picture to my husband and we both laughed and laughed and laughed. I'm hardly vindictive; I just happen to think anyone who believes in the liberal way of life is an idiot. That makes you an idiot. Now, **** off you silly big ass liberal.
I get plenty of attention from my conservative husband, even after many years together. I didn't seek out male attention from this website before your skanky ass arrived here and I have no desire to seek it out after you're banned like you were once before.
I am thinking the university where you are employed may be interested in the fact that you are using state resources and time to post on a conservative board, though. At the very least, my friends in Minnesota who are taxpayers may not be very happy, either.
So, there's that, Alex.
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Just got back from a great evening with Mrs. Dog and my sister (not the same person). Is the skank still here? Did she ever bust out the puppies? Has she charmed any converts, I was getting nervous about the Zombie. He's PINTOBEAN you know.
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Everyone knows it's BainsBane (sung to the tune of Everyone knows its Wendy)
I think this one might work better. Click the music link and sing along!
BAINSBANE
Tune: "Bang Bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IdEfcsjhGE)
At the DUmp there's one we see
With her degree, Ph.DD
She hates men, she hates Rethugs
But she really loves her jugs
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
People said at DOTY time
She needs support, so get in line
We would always laugh and say
She's racking up the votes OK
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
DOTY vote, she didn't flop
Alex came up near the top
Hey! . . . Hey! . . . Hey! . . . Hey!
Now she's here inside the Cave
She must have balls, she's being brave
Just look at what the Cavers gave:
Attention, all that she could crave
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
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You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
You are the one who keeps coming back!
Attention whore is all I can think you are. Maybe if you had a different attitude you could find a man that would like you.
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Yes, I can see that you have absolutely no respect for property or the law, What does that compare next to your need to be vindictive against another woman simply for existing. You're obviously projecting about the male attention thing. You got nastily catty because you weren't getting all the attention. You're clearly pathetically desperate for online male attention, so I am more than happy to leave you to it.
BigDog, obviously not the U of M picture. I'm talking about the one the chronically insecure traveshamockery felt compelled to print out and show to her husband, and the one someone else here posted in the past couple of weeks.
That Traveshmockery even felt a need to bother to show the pic to her husband is revealing. (Oh, no. They aren't looking at me. I must feel prettier, even if I have nothing whatsoever to say). I know the type. Not a female friend, hates women, insults other women because she feels in constant competition with them and thinks it earns her points with the boys. Really that kind of behavior demonstrates a very sad self-loathing toward your own womanhood.
Peace.
He wondered what I was laughing about and I showed him. He said he understood why I was laughing. I didn't print out any picture of you when it's all over the place online. Why would I waste my time?
No self-loathing or need for competition on my part. I've got everything I want at home and believe me, he gives me all the attention I need. We have a loving, kind, honest, and interdependent marriage. When you have that, why seek attention elsewhere like you do, Alex?
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Why do they keep calling us teabaggers? I've never joined or ever gone to one of their meetings.
All I know about them is that they want smaller government and lower taxes.
Teabagging is a derrogatory term for a homosexual act.
The Liberals think it's cute and funny to use said term to describe people who associate with the TEA Party...and they smear conservatives in geberal with it as well.
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More on the anti-choice teabagger doctor forcing women to have abortions. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/10/report-anti-choice-republican-forced-mistress-to-have-an-abortion/
So you were against abortion before you were for it?
I thought you were pro abortion?
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You blamed the crisis first on Obama, then on the Democratic House, including Pelosi. You demonstrated no interest in discussing the causes of the collapse.
This coming from someone who's only response seems to be "It's Bush's fault"?
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Empty words from an empty mind.
And she wonders why men won't pay any attention to her much less have any desire to take her home.
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That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity.
So Alex, does that mean that every time your fellow Libtards posted a pic or personal information about me they were "willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity"?
See that kind of activity you claime to deplore....was being done by the mouth breathing window lickers at DU LONG before any of us decided to turn the tables on you and play your game.
My only crime was writing a letter to the editor disagreeing with one of your fellow Libtards about AFN Programming.
DU has splattered my face my real name and photos of me all over that stupid little echo chamber numerous times without my permission.
So cry me a ****ing river about your stupid intellectual property rights...you'd have to have an intellect first to be able to claims rights over it.
If you don't want the world to know who you are where you work what you look like etc...here's a tip don't put it out on the internet for everyone to see...and especailly...don't post it at DU.
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In fact, liberals believe that choice is the woman's.
If that's true then why is the only "choice" you seem to support murder?
You rail against babies being born into poverty...there are women who are in poverty as well. By that reasoning we should kill poor women, not just babies who MIGHT end up in poverty right?
To a liberal it's more ethical to KILL an unborn baby than for a women to have to endure pregnancy after she VOLUNTARILY (with few exceptions) had sex that she KNEW could result in pregnancy.
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BigDog, obviously not the U of M picture. I'm talking about the one the chronically insecure traveshamockery felt compelled to print out and show to her husband, and the one someone else here posted in the past couple of weeks.
I missed it. I was kinda busy.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/mclintock-spanking-o_zps97150e43.gif)
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Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
But you posted it on DU - You need to read the DU terms of use again.
Voluntary Public Disclosure
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In other words, anything you post on DU is fair game. If you are unhappy with that, then you need to find another place to post.
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Ah, well... I guess I'll don a skin tight shirt and take pictures to make myself feel better.
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You got that right!
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:panic: :panic: :panic::panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:
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If that's true then why is the only "choice" you seem to support murder?
You rail against babies being born into poverty...there are women who are in poverty as well. By that reasoning we should kill poor women, not just babies who MIGHT end up in poverty right?
To a liberal it's more ethical to KILL an unborn baby than for a women to have to endure pregnancy after she VOLUNTARILY (with few exceptions) had sex that she KNEW could result in pregnancy.
I am flummoxed, here, so lets go to science for answers and ignore the morals for a while.
What part of procreation do you not understand ANTI-? Men are not just sperm donors to a female, actually if the baby is a male child the mother carries a baby much more different then themselves. The child has a different sex from the mother, different hormones of the mother and some kind of ability to think and act physically from the mother.
I see you have never experienced the amazement of expelling from ones body of a creature oh so different from ourselves. Woman have the JOB of carring a small life to birth, then the job of trying to understand the fact that no matter hard one tries to raise a different sex from themselves, we will never understand the male mind. Or in many cases that of our daughters as well.
So, to claim a woman's body is her own to do with as she pleases is far fetched to say the least when it comes to the cycle of life.
Now one can choose to get a vasectomy or a quick cut the tubes, but regulations used to require a age limit to do so. People by circumstances do change their minds at a later date.
Unfortunately for the male they have no right to their child at any time and have to fight for their rights to reproduce.
This is how we all came to be born, woman do not clone themselves like worms do. Baby's do not come out of a cabbage patch or some big bird deliver them to the doorstep.
What on earth were females of all creatures put on this planet for but to reproduce and that almost always involves a little help from a male. { or a turkey baster.} or from the bottom of a long black tube with sperm from some stranger.
To have killed a developing child is to deny the awesome power of life and relegate the female to have the RIGHT to kill at will with the male just a sperm donor.
Then we hear of cases of people being charged with murder of a pregnant woman and child. There are times when a woman will be killed in an accident and Doctors battle trying to keep a 2 pound so called fetus alive. Why on earth would they bother if they themselves decided this baby was no different then a tumor at that point??
Just for shits and giggles get a tour of a neonatal wing in a hospital. Some of the strides made in medicine have humans that are kept alive to grow into adults and have children of their own.
Some of these baby's weigh about the size of a pound of butter, well short of the cut off time for an abortion.
Once the magic starts and like a lightning bolt from the sky's when egg meets sperm, life begins, a human being is forming and has all the rights to life YOU do.
So, who decides if this lump of flesh a tumor or a humane being.
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If DUmmie intellectual property rights were real property subject to taxation then the government would owe them money because of it's negative value..........wait a minute..........the government is already paying them for being stupid. Welfare, foodstamps, section 8, disability, etc., etc., etc., etc.,............etc.
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Alright, alright... No pictures. :-)
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I showed a picture to my husband and we both laughed and laughed and laughed. I'm hardly vindictive; I just happen to think anyone who believes in the liberal way of life is an idiot. That makes you an idiot. Now, **** off you silly big ass liberal.
I get plenty of attention from my conservative husband, even after many years together. I didn't seek out male attention from this website before your skanky ass arrived here and I have no desire to seek it out after you're banned like you were once before.
I am thinking the university where you are employed may be interested in the fact that you are using state resources and time to post on a conservative board, though. At the very least, my friends in Minnesota who are taxpayers may not be very happy, either.
So, there's that, Alex.
Don't sweat it, it's not anything you did. The DUmmie was getting its ass handed to it on multiple fronts and you were the convenient excuse to have an indignant exit. Typical arrested development, emotional cripple, drama queenery.
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Hey, DUmmie, I know you're still lurking about. I have something for you to take back to the good "Doctor":
Media hype about mass shootings in America has fostered a myth that the killings are on the rise and that an assault weapon ban, expanded background checks and greater attention to the mentally ill will curb a rampaging epidemic, according to an authoritative and exhaustive study by a noted criminologist.
Instead, according to James Alan Fox, author and criminology professor at Northeastern University, mass shootings have remained stagnant over 34 years, averaging 20 a year, and few were committed by the type of berserk psychos portrayed by the media.
They reviewed years of mass shootings and found that most shooters are not the crazed killers pictured on TV: Most are seeking revenge and practice their crime, like the two Columbine, Colo., killers.
“The rarest form of mass murder is the completely random attack,†said the study, “Mass Shootings in America: Moving Beyond Newtown.â€
He addressed 10 myths fostered by the press. Key among them:
— Expanded background checks will stop killers from getting guns. The study cites a study from former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns that in 93 recent mass shootings, the gun buyers didn’t have a criminal or mental health record. “People cannot be denied their Second Amendment rights just because they look strange or act in an odd manner,†wrote Fox and DeLateur.
— An assault weapons ban would work. They found that the typical weapon used is a pistol, not an “assault weapon†like the semi-automatic AR-15 rifle. Assault weapons were used in 24.6 percent of mass shootings, handguns in 47.9 percent. And limiting the size of magazines weapons can carry wouldn’t help, they said, because any ban would impact new sales and “there is an ample supply of large capacity magazines already in circulation.â€
When you see her, send her my regards...
(http://i.imgur.com/CshoDXz.jpg)
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(http://s29.postimg.org/b17ry3qd3/93790.jpg)
:lmao:
CMD
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I am flummoxed, here, so lets go to science for answers and ignore the morals for a while.
What part of procreation do you not understand ANTI-? Men are not just sperm donors to a female, actually if the baby is a male child the mother carries a baby much more different then themselves. The child has a different sex from the mother, different hormones of the mother and some kind of ability to think and act physically from the mother.
I see you have never experienced the amazement of expelling from ones body of a creature oh so different from ourselves. Woman have the JOB of carring a small life to birth, then the job of trying to understand the fact that no matter hard one tries to raise a different sex from themselves, we will never understand the male mind. Or in many cases that of our daughters as well.
So, to claim a woman's body is her own to do with as she pleases is far fetched to say the least when it comes to the cycle of life.
Now one can choose to get a vasectomy or a quick cut the tubes, but regulations used to require a age limit to do so. People by circumstances do change their minds at a later date.
Unfortunately for the male they have no right to their child at any time and have to fight for their rights to reproduce.
This is how we all came to be born, woman do not clone themselves like worms do. Baby's do not come out of a cabbage patch or some big bird deliver them to the doorstep.
What on earth were females of all creatures put on this planet for but to reproduce and that almost always involves a little help from a male. { or a turkey baster.} or from the bottom of a long black tube with sperm from some stranger.
To have killed a developing child is to deny the awesome power of life and relegate the female to have the RIGHT to kill at will with the male just a sperm donor.
Then we hear of cases of people being charged with murder of a pregnant woman and child. There are times when a woman will be killed in an accident and Doctors battle trying to keep a 2 pound so called fetus alive. Why on earth would they bother if they themselves decided this baby was no different then a tumor at that point??
Just for shits and giggles get a tour of a neonatal wing in a hospital. Some of the strides made in medicine have humans that are kept alive to grow into adults and have children of their own.
Some of these baby's weigh about the size of a pound of butter, well short of the cut off time for an abortion.
Once the magic starts and like a lightning bolt from the sky's when egg meets sperm, life begins, a human being is forming and has all the rights to life YOU do.
So, who decides if this lump of flesh a tumor or a humane being.
Wow. I just did something I thought I'd never do... gave Vesta a ^5. I'd give her a ^10 if I could.
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CMD
H5!
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We all know now that it's been outed where she works, and that taxpayers pay her salary, she will not post here during the day. If she does, it will be on her "lunch hour," which is probably still paid for by taxpayers.
She's on the dole.
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(http://s29.postimg.org/b17ry3qd3/93790.jpg)
:lmao:
CMD
:ohmy:
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(http://s29.postimg.org/b17ry3qd3/93790.jpg)
:lmao:
CMD
This is by far my favorite post on this thread.
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We all know now that it's been outed where she works, and that taxpayers pay her salary, she will not post here during the day. If she does, it will be on her "lunch hour," which is probably still paid for by taxpayers.
She's on the dole.
I'm guessing she is an adjunct, no office maybe a mail slot. They always refer to themselves as "professor" and conveniently leave out the adjunct part.
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:ohmy:
I'm thinking the Lord of the Rings might be important.
The DUmmie should pay heed to the old saying:
Never hand someone a loaded gun unless you're sure where they're going to point it.
CMD
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And now that I can finally put a face to the idiot, I have a question. I thought Jugs was considered one of the better looking Dummies? Or was that just a running joke on the cave??
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And now that I can finally put a face to the idiot, I have a question. I thought Jugs was considered one of the better looking Dummies? Or was that just a running joke on the cave??
Same here. She's not what I pictured at all. I thought she'd appear younger, more svelte, a halfway pretty face. Not the typical lib she-hag displayed in the University pic. :/ I was astonished, frankly. Maybe the University pic is just a bad pic of her? I missed the pic that had her all butt hurt. Was that one better?
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I'm guessing she is an adjunct, no office maybe a mail slot. They always refer to themselves as "professor" and conveniently leave out the adjunct part.
Nope, she's a professional beggar:
... coordinates grant seeking for faculty in the arts and humanities.
She looks forward to assisting arts and humanities faculty in obtaining financial support for the valuable research and creative activity in which they engage.
http://grants.cla.umn.edu/people/whoweare.html
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Same here. She's not what I pictured at all. I thought she'd appear younger, more svelte, a halfway pretty face.
What? You don't think the "official" photo of a middle aged woman looking like she's making eyes at a Marine Corporal during a Bennigan's happy hour is a good one?
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PhD=one trick pony.
So blatantly specialized in one narrow subject, that they ignore everything else.
Has tendency to feel superior to all others. False authority syndrome is a characteristic indication.
Fortunately, it's a lie. They are quite ignorant of life and reality.
A wonderful example of this....below. :-)
Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: @ :jugs: :yahoo:
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You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
Go **** yourself, you stupid whore.
The last time you were banned for claiming we were the ones responsible for the Boston bombing.
And then you claim Traveshamockery is attention whoring.
You're a nasty bitch who lives by the indulgences of others.
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anti-spelunker on January 14, 2014, 05:52:44 pm
You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
Good Lord, it's not like any of us EVER wanted you here. YOU assumed that everyone would share your opinion of your own importance, mistaking forbearance for appreciation and submission. Things here don't work the way they do at DU, where you abuse everyone with whom you disagree in the Gungeon with impunity, but are shielded by $kammer and the KKKoven from any turnabout in the witches' cauldron forum by cries of victimhood and sexism.
Good riddance, you narcissistic authoritarian twat.
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Hmmmm. Let's see here.
Couldn't get along with anyone here. Couldn't get along with anyone over at DU.
The clear constant in this equation is . . .
You
Perhaps it's time to meditate on some values?
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CMD
:hi5:
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Hmmmm. Let's see here.
Couldn't get along with anyone here. Couldn't get along with anyone over at DU.
The clear constant in this equation is . . .
You...
... Ergo, obviously, it's Bush's fault. :thatsright: :rotf: :lmao: :rofl:
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Wait. Where are you going?
I was going to make espresso.
(H/T to Mel Brooks and NHSparky)
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Hmmmm. Let's see here.
Couldn't get along with anyone here. Couldn't get along with anyone over at DU.
The clear constant in this equation is . . .
You
The whole mess, summed up in one post.
Bravo, sir, bravo... :clap:
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Wait. Where are you going?
I was going to make espresso.
(H/T to Mel Brooks and NHSparky)
I was going to tell her get me a beer and make me a freaking sammitch!
(btw: IMDB says that espresso line was ad-libbed)
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And she wonders why men won't pay any attention to her much less have any desire to take her home.
No one loves the way she becomes an enormous green raging psycho-bitch.
No one is gonna go home with that.
BainsBane = Forever alone.
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No one loves the way she becomes an enormous green raging psycho-bitch.
No one is gonna go home with that.
BainsBane = Forever alone.
She feels not alone and not shunned when she is creating drama.
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My good friends, we have overlooked a greater tragedy in this latest kerfunkle: If DUmmie fitman hadn't been such a thin skinned bitch and ran away, he would have had free reign to verbally beat one of his greatest tormentors.
Ah, well, such is life....
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And now that I can finally put a face to the idiot, I have a question. I thought Jugs was considered one of the better looking Dummies? Or was that just a running joke on the cave??
That photo is probably 8-10 years old. You know how you get hired on to a job and they take your picture a dozen times and it's the last time they do? It's like the DMV.
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That photo is probably 8-10 years old. You know how you get hired on to a job and they take your picture a dozen times and it's the last time they do? It's like the DMV.
Those enormous, freakish headlights are permanently on low beam.
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I'm sure she thought she could come over here and edumacate us cavers with her incredible intelligence.
She's one of those people I would describe as having pseudo-intelligence. She knows a whole lot of shit about nothing really important, and she's gotten through some liberal college and doctorate program with a lot of useless information about useless crap and absolutely zero common sense.
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The one trick pony did everything in its power to dictate and demand how the thread progressed.
I've seen enough pseudo-intellectuals to recognize the technique.
Elitist false authority syndrome, the works.
A pathetic display well suited for a DUmpmonkey.
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What? You don't think the "official" photo of a middle aged woman looking like she's making eyes at a Marine Corporal during a Bennigan's happy hour is a good one?
No. Not what I would have chose for what was supposed to be a professional pic.
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And now that I can finally put a face to the idiot, I have a question. I thought Jugs was considered one of the better looking Dummies? Or was that just a running joke on the cave??
[sigh] sadly, she is one of the "better" looking of the DU wench KKKrew
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No. Not what I would have chose for what was supposed to be a professional pic.
I was being somewhat facetious and the question was an attempt at rehtorical humor. :-)
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I'm sure she thought she could come over here and edumacate us cavers with her incredible intelligence.
She's one of those people I would describe as having pseudo-intelligence. She knows a whole lot of shit about nothing really important, and she's gotten through some liberal college and doctorate program with a lot of useless information about useless crap and absolutely zero common sense.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Also, colleges do a real disservice to their students on the graduate levels these days by having an overpriced echo chamber for seminars. No one learns debate, argument, logic - any of the tools that really spur and cement learning. All that's there is a superficial knowledge of the world along with zero curiosity to delve into the things that don't make sense or sound right.
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You people are getting nastier by the moment. Obviously you don't want me here, so that's fine. Keep up the hate. You obviously live for it.
I don't take that as anti-spelunker/BainsBane/Alexandra Brown necessarily saying that she isn't coming back here. In fact, she made a few posts after this one on Tuesday evening. Maybe she just took last night off from posting. Perhaps there was a Womyn's Poetry Slam she wanted to attend. (BTW, I wonder if Alex knows OccuPoet Misty Rowan, also of Minneapolis.)
Also, has BainsBane made any mention over at the DUmp of her visits here to the Cave? If she did, would that lead to a BainsBaneBan?
Alex, if you're out there, I for one welcome our Underground visitors.
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A face made for radio.
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http://grants.cla.umn.edu/people/whoweare.html
Alexandra K. Brown, Ph.D., coordinates grant seeking for faculty. . . .
Alex wants to make sure all faculty members are well endowed.
She of the Twin . . . Cities. . . .
(http://grants.cla.umn.edu/assets/img/brown.jpg)
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BAINSBANE
Tune: "Bang Bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IdEfcsjhGE)
At the DUmp there's one we see
With her degree, Ph.DD
She hates men, she hates Rethugs
But she really loves her jugs
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
People said at DOTY time
She needs support, so get in line
We would always laugh and say
She's racking up the votes OK
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
DOTY vote, she didn't flop
Alex came up near the top
Hey! . . . Hey! . . . Hey! . . . Hey!
Now she's here inside the Cave
She must have balls, she's being brave
Just look at what the Cavers gave:
Attention, all that she could crave
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
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http://grants.cla.umn.edu/people/whoweare.html
Alexandra K. Brown, Ph.D., coordinates grant seeking for faculty. . . .
Alex wants to make sure all faculty members are well endowed.
She of the Twin . . . Cities. . . .
(http://grants.cla.umn.edu/assets/img/brown.jpg)
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BAINSBANE
Tune: "Bang Bang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IdEfcsjhGE)
At the DUmp there's one we see
With her degree, Ph.DD
She hates men, she hates Rethugs
But she really loves her jugs
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
People said at DOTY time
She needs support, so get in line
We would always laugh and say
She's racking up the votes OK
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
DOTY vote, she didn't flop
Alex came up near the top
Hey! . . . Hey! . . . Hey! . . . Hey!
Now she's here inside the Cave
She must have balls, she's being brave
Just look at what the Cavers gave:
Attention, all that she could crave
BainsBane, Miss Alex Brown
BainsBane, of DUmp renown
BainsBane, so big around
BainsBane, around the Underground
:rotf: :rotf:
Alex Brown, Ph.DD, Attention Whore
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Why won't Frank talk to me? I feel neglected.
Ooops, I'm late to the party.
<<<am willing to talk, but sometimes real life interferes.
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Ooops, I'm late to the party.
<<<am willing to talk, but sometimes real life interferes.
I'm worried "talk" might not mean what we think it means Coach.
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I'm worried "talk" might not mean what we think it means Coach.
Uh oh. I feel a literary inspiration coming on.
"BainsBane meets franksolich."
Maybe later though; I'm pretty busy.
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Uh oh. I feel a literary inspiration coming on.
"BainsBane meets franksolich."
Maybe later though; I'm pretty busy.
Gee, I've never been a muse before. I thought your Fitz fantasy was some twisted product but, this could be monumental.
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Gee, I've never been a muse before. I thought your Fitz fantasy was some twisted product but, this could be monumental.
Well, I have to work my way around a, uh, couple of things, if you know what I mean; at the moment, the imagination's lacking on how to deal with it, or them.
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A face made for radio a Taliban skin peel treatment.
FIFY
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Well, I have to work my way around a, uh, couple of things, if you know what I mean; at the moment, the imagination's lacking on how to deal with it, or them.
Zone defense.
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Well, I have to work my way around a, uh, couple of things, if you know what I mean; at the moment, the imagination's lacking on how to deal with it, or them.
Before you launch out on that excursion, you should solicit inputs from your valued readers. I have noticed in the past that you agreed on some suggestions that came too late for you to incorporate into your yarn !
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What this place needs is a "hide thread" function.
I'm sicker of jugs than I am of Doug.
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What this place needs is a "hide thread" function.
I'm sicker of jugs than I am of Doug.
Amen.
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A face made for radio.
I resemble that remark ;D
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Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
:urmeds:
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Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
Hmmm, anyone else catch the irony of this message?
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Hmmm, anyone else catch the irony of this message?
Oh, yes, and I am confident the irony escaped the woman who wrote it.
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If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good
Make that 25,001. (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,94030.0.html)
I love a happy ending!
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Hmmm, anyone else catch the irony of this message?
I find amusement in that the self appointed queen of IP rights has no problem stealing an image when it benefits her.
This is her avatar at DU.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/alice.jpg)
Which was taken from this image drawn by Sir John Tenniel without permission. AFAIK, his descendants still hold the copyright - keeping the image from public domain (unlike the text itself).
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UN7wPjdKdmc/S7lWyV2V-yI/AAAAAAAABPs/0d8Sc6aC9PY/s1600/Carroll's%2BAlcie%2BDrawing.jpg)
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I find amusement in that the self appointed queen of IP rights has no problem stealing an image when it benefits her.
This is her avatar at DU.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/alice.jpg)
Which was taken from this image drawn by Sir John Tenniel without permission. AFAIK, his descendants still hold the copyright - keeping the image from public domain (unlike the text itself).
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UN7wPjdKdmc/S7lWyV2V-yI/AAAAAAAABPs/0d8Sc6aC9PY/s1600/Carroll's%2BAlcie%2BDrawing.jpg)
:bwah:
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UN7wPjdKdmc/S7lWyV2V-yI/AAAAAAAABPs/0d8Sc6aC9PY/s1600/Carroll's%2BAlcie%2BDrawing.jpg)
Alex in Underland?
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Oh, yes, and I am confident the irony escaped the woman who wrote it.
Libs are immune to it.
But free irony is a basic human right.
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Make that 25,001. (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,94030.0.html)
I love a happy ending!
That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property.
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I find amusement in that the self appointed queen of IP rights has no problem stealing an image when it benefits her.
This is her avatar at DU.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/alice.jpg)
Which was taken from this image drawn by Sir John Tenniel without permission. AFAIK, his descendants still hold the copyright - keeping the image from public domain (unlike the text itself).
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UN7wPjdKdmc/S7lWyV2V-yI/AAAAAAAABPs/0d8Sc6aC9PY/s1600/Carroll's%2BAlcie%2BDrawing.jpg)
Nice try. However, that is one of the DU provided avatars. If there is a copyright issue, Skinner and co. would have to have paid to use it. Copyright, however, is limited in duration so my guess is that particular drawing is no longer covered.
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That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property.
It's a bullshit number. Hospitals can't refuse anyone for lack of insurance.
Your messiah just cost about 6 million people their insurance.
You are a fraud.
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It's a bullshit number. Hospitals can't refuse anyone for lack of insurance.
Your messiah just cost about 6 million people their insurance.
You are a fraud.
In the end there will be more on medicair/medicaid, and the same amount or more of uninsured than before owebumacare. So one thing is certain, owebuma didn't give a damn about the uninsured. He had another agenda, as libs always do.
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In the end there will be more on medicair/medicaid, and the same amount or more of uninsured than before owebumacare. So one thing is certain, owebuma didn't give a damn about the uninsured. He had another agenda, as libs always do.
Of course, and more and more doctors are refusing to accept any new Medicaid patients.
YES WE CAN!!!
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That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property.
I thought it was an "estimate" of the number of people killed by eeeeeevil guns each year. Both numbers are equally specious - hey, equality!
Since you are estimating numbers without evidence, why not think big? 300 brazilian people die each year from lack of access to healthcare.
It takes a Doctor of Braziliology to understand, I know.
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I thought it was an "estimate" of the number of people killed by eeeeeevil guns each year. Both numbers are equally specious - hey, equality!
Since you are estimating numbers without evidence, why not think big? 300 brazilian people die each year from lack of access to healthcare.
It takes a Doctor of Braziliology to understand, I know.
You thought wrong. The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000. Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary. I gave one of the lower numbers. A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.
Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here.
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You thought wrong. The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000. Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary. I gave one of the lower numbers. A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.
Again, "estimates" and "approximations" from sources with an agenda. See "millions of jobs created or saved" and monthly "unemployment" figures. If the report didn't support your leftist, collectives delusions, you'd condemn it as "denial".
Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here.
Or, the number will rise because many millions* more have been hit with higher deductibles and copayments, and can't afford to use their Obama-compliant insurance; coupled with the reduction in providers in rural and poorer areas due to lower reimbursement rates under your Lord and Master's signature achievement.
Another failure of central planning in the making.
*Millions < brazilians, but you don't have to take off your pants to count millions.
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You thought wrong. The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000. Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary. I gave one of the lower numbers. A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.
Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here.
Bull shit Obamacare is not going to reduce deaths, they will be given a pain pill though.
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Again, "estimates" and "approximations" from sources with an agenda. \
DOJ collects data from police departments around the country. Are you suggesting the nation's police departments are in league with liberals to make gun owners look bad?
There are links to the Harvard Study for you to read yourself. The agenda is knowledge. Naturally that is an anathema to you.
As for the future, only time will tell.
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DOJ collects data from police departments around the country. Are you suggesting the nation's police departments are in league with liberals to make gun owners look bad?
There are links to the Harvard Study for you to read yourself. The agenda is knowledge. Naturally that is an anathema to you.
As for the future, only time will tell.
I'm certain the DOJ works fast and furiously to maintain integrity.
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I'm certain the DOJ works fast and furiously to maintain integrity.
They have long served as a wide receiver of data.
I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about. You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient.
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They have long served as a wide receiver of data.
I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about. You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient.
No I ignore liberal talking points being passed off as facts.
Just think of us as patriots because dissent is patriotic.
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That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property.
I thought 25,000 was the how many people died from guns. As you posted over at the island of misfits
Before you upped it to 32,000 in a post here at the cave.
You're confusing me. Do I need to buy more ammo? Less ammo? Buy guns, sell guns, trade guns. I want to do the right thing.
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They have long served as a wide receiver of data.
I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about. You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient.
Since you're such a whiz at this, how about a nice break down of ages and perhaps the actual reason for the death.
How many were pushers, rapists, or other idiot involved in a crime?
Gangbangers offing themselves don't count for squat. I would encourage that.
Suicides are out, too.
Give us some meaningful number reflecting innocent people killed. Here, you can include accidents.
That doesn't fit into your agenda does it?
Explain why disarming those innocent people is in their best interest.
Very sorry that's inconvenient for you to explore rational facts.
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DOJ collects data from police departments around the country. Are you suggesting the nation's police departments are in league with liberals to make gun owners look bad?
Why, no, I'm not. You are a very foolish girl; particularly for one who fancies herself to be on the right side of the bell curve.
The agenda is knowledge. Naturally that is an anathema to you.
You make the Dog laugh!
(http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/attachments/f21/73619d1361851915-poll-rightful-redfish-regatta-trash-talkin-champion-laughing-dog-jpg)
The really funny part is your hubris, even though you have a degree with less value than an AA in Computer Science. By your own account, you were an unemployed PhD on the street, being offered money for sex, and now you beg capitalists for money to finance Esperanto performances of The Vagina Monologues by transsexuals in clown shoes- all in the guise of "the humanities".
Oh, the humanities...
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2563/4120012229_07af44cc55.jpg)
I've had a great time beating you like a red-headed stepchild, Alex. I really have, and I haven't even uncased the big guns yet.
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Go home, Alex. You're drunk.
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Go home, Alex. You're drunk.
Did your husband give you permission to post here? :lmao:
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Did your husband give you permission to post here? :lmao:
No, I had to sneak away. I hope he doesn't find out. :whistling:
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Why, no, I'm not. You are a very foolish girl; particularly for one who fancies herself to be on the right side of the bell curve.
You make the Dog laugh!
(http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/attachments/f21/73619d1361851915-poll-rightful-redfish-regatta-trash-talkin-champion-laughing-dog-jpg)
The really funny part is your hubris, even though you have a degree with less value than an AA in Computer Science. By your own account, you were an unemployed PhD on the street, being offered money for sex, and now you beg capitalists for money to finance Esperanto performances of The Vagina Monologues by transsexuals in clown shoes- all in the guise of "the humanities".
Oh, the humanities...
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2563/4120012229_07af44cc55.jpg)
I've had a great time beating you like a red-headed stepchild, Alex. I really have, and I haven't even uncased the big guns yet.
Indeed. After working everyday since age 13 at at least one job if not two, I was unemployed for a time while I was changing careers.
No Esperanto and no Vagina Monologues, and there is no begging involved. Grants are entirely merit based. They are not charity and are not taxed as such.
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No, I had to sneak away. I hope he doesn't find out. :whistling:
Be safe. We all know the wives of conservative men are not allowed to own guns for protection, I would hate for you to be number 25,001. I myself don't mind a good beating into submission once in a while but I am concerned about your shoulder and elbow pain.
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Since my photo has generated such interest, I will clarify a few things. It is now precisely 4 1/2 years old. I now have long hair several inches past my shoulders, and I am exactly 4 1/2 years older. Alas, no marines were in the vicinity for me to make goo goo eyes at while it was being taken. In fact, no men were around at the time. A female coworker took the photo and put it up on the website. I did not choose it, and there is nothing seductive or inappropriate about it.
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Did your husband give you permission to post here? :lmao:
Hi Rob. You must have missed the bulletin, but your fellow cavers will no doubt confirm that I am far too ugly with a personality much too unbearable to possibly have a husband. Not anymore anyway. I am blissfully able to do exactly as I please.
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It's too bad the young people did not sign up for the Affordable Care Act which ended up creating the top heaviness. Those of us that are paying two and three times more for insurance this year won't be surprised when we pay even more next year. Now I work to pay health insurance so others don't have to.
Yeah, that seems fair to me liberals.
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Be safe. We all know the wives of conservative men are not allowed to own guns for protection, I would hate for you to be number 25,001. I myself don't mind a good beating into submission once in a while but I am concerned about your shoulder and elbow pain.
Yeah, he gave me my grocery allowance earlier tonight. He upped it from $25 to $30 for two weeks. Instead of walking to the grocery store like I usually do, he allowed me to ride my bike. I had to be really quiet when I got home because he hates it when I show my face during his weekly poker match here.
I think I might be spanked later.
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Since my photo has generated such interest, I will clarify a few things. It is now precisely 4 1/2 years old. I now have long hair several inches past my shoulders, and I am exactly 4 1/2 years older. Alas, no marines were in the vicinity for me to make goo goo eyes at while it was being taken. In fact, no men were around at the time. A female coworker took the photo and put it up on the website. I did not choose it, and there is nothing seductive or inappropriate about it.
No one cares.
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You thought wrong. The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000. Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary. I gave one of the lower numbers. A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study.
Numbers that pale in comparison to 1,200,000 murdered unborn a year.
Don't you think. Alex.
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Hi Rob. You must have missed the bulletin, but your fellow cavers will no doubt confirm that I am far too ugly with a personality much too unbearable to possibly have a husband. Not anymore anyway. I am blissfully able to do exactly as I please.
I was asking Traveshamockery.
It's hard to judge a book by it's cover and it's hard to judge a person's looks only by a head shot. But the picture I seen in this thread shows a fairly attractive young lady with dark hair and glasses. I did not find the picture ugly. But often times people talk too much and I get a really ugly picture of them inside my head. That is great you are able to do exactly as you please. Do you have plans of ever settling down with the man of your dreams any time soon? Do you have your eye on any knights in shinning armor? That college campus has to be full of hot guys, I'm sure several of them are interested in you.
Edit: too many typos, it must be the hotness of the photo. O-)
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Yeah, he gave me my grocery allowance earlier tonight. He upped it from $25 to $30 for two weeks. Instead of walking to the grocery store like I usually do, he allowed me to ride my bike. I had to be really quiet when I got home because he hates it when I show my face during his weekly poker match here.
I think I might be spanked later.
You owe me keyboard. I picked the wrong time to take a drink. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Yeah, he gave me my grocery allowance earlier tonight. He upped it from $25 to $30 for two weeks. Instead of walking to the grocery store like I usually do, he allowed me to ride my bike. I had to be really quiet when I got home because he hates it when I show my face during his weekly poker match here.
I think I might be spanked later.
Bare-handed, or with a switch?
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Alex,
One more thing (please see my other post for my first set of questions) could you do me a favor next time you are at DU?
Could you please ask DainBramaged when the remote control is?
Thank you.
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Since my photo has generated such interest, I will clarify a few things. It is now precisely 4 1/2 years old. I now have long hair several inches past my shoulders, and I am exactly 4 1/2 years older. Alas, no marines were in the vicinity for me to make goo goo eyes at while it was being taken. In fact, no men were around at the time. A female coworker took the photo and put it up on the website. I did not choose it, and there is nothing seductive or inappropriate about it.
Yeah, Alex, I gotta bone to pick with you re: your pics.
I printed the red sweater one and taped to the back patio door to see if you would scare the neighborhood cats away. Well, I haven't seen any cats lately.
But the darned sasquatch have been here every night since. Hootin' and screechin' like a bunch of primitive dancing around their campires. And to top it off, they've been licking the damned window. Why just this morning I had to run one off that was sitting in my favorite lawn chair, drinking from an old beer can and smoking one of my stogie butts. That wasn't so bad. But he had the morning newspaper and was reading the editorials and screeching up a storm. So I sez: "Bubba, gimme back my newspaper and take of that stupid John Edwards ballcap. Its so 2004."
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I was asking Traveshamockery.
It's hard to judge a book by it's cover and it's hard to judge a person's looks only by a head shot. But the picture I seen in this thread shows a fairly attractive young lady with dark hair and glasses. I did not find the picture ugly. But often times people talk too much and I get a really ugly picture of them inside my head. That is great you are able to do exactly as you please. Do you have plans of ever settling down with the man of your dreams any time soon? Do you have your eye on any knights in shinning armor? That college campus has to be full of hot guys, I'm sure several of them are interested in you.
Edit: too many typos, it must be the hotness of the photo. O-)
That's very kind of you. I had my heart set on BigDog, but he's not cooperating.
Seriously, there aren't many unmarried men my age. If I got out more, that would doubtless help a lot.
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Bare-handed, or with a switch?
Both, if I'm lucky.
:naughty:
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Yeah, Alex, I gotta bone to pick with you re: your pics.
I printed the red sweater one and taped to the back patio door to see if you would scare the neighborhood cats away. Well, I haven't seen any cats lately.
But the darned sasquatch have been here every night since. Hootin' and screechin' like a bunch of primitive dancing around their campires. And to top it off, they've been licking the damned window. Why just this morning I had to run one off that was sitting in my favorite lawn chair, drinking from an old beer can and smoking one of my stogie butts. That wasn't so bad. But he had the morning newspaper and was reading the editorials and screeching up a storm. So I sez: "Bubba, gimme back my newspaper and take of that stupid John Edwards ballcap. Its so 2004."
I expect royalties for use of my photo. $10 per sasquatch sighting.
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They have long served as a wide receiver of data.
I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about. You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient.
Coming from a leftist,whose home has but had to hide a 9/11 troofer forum,that is really funny.
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But the darned sasquatch have been here every night since. Hootin' and screechin' like a bunch of primitive dancing around their campfires.
Omaha Steve really gets around.
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Coming from a leftist,whose home has but had to hide a 9/11 troofer forum,that is really funny.
I HATE that 9/11 BS. I hate all that conspiracy bullshit. You can't tie me to any of that garbage.
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I expect royalties for use of my photo. $10 per sasquatch sighting.
Yeah. well, you'll get your sawbuck when I get the $10 mill from Lloyds.
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That's very kind of you. I had my heart set on BigDog, but he's not cooperating.
Seriously, there aren't many unmarried men my age. If I got out more, that would doubtless help a lot.
I think Big Dog might already have a fan club of followers or he is just playing hard to get. :-)
It's hard to "get out more" if you work a lot. I just thought there might be a bunch of guys were you work.
Sometimes relationships just end up being a bunch of drama, so at least you are missing all of that.
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I'm going to say something nice about Alex...
Compared to the Wookie I think she's kinda cute. :tongue:
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I HATE that 9/11 BS. I hate all that conspiracy bullshit. You can't tie me to any of that garbage.
I bet you tie us to the birther movement
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I HATE that 9/11 BS. I hate all that conspiracy bullshit. You can't tie me to any of that garbage.
You wallow in a home of that and more insanity,don`t claim a walk through a cesspool doesn`t cover you with shit.
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Both, if I'm lucky.
:naughty:
(http://kennl.dk/smileys/images/whip1.gif)
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I expect royalties for use of my photo. $10 per sasquatch sighting.
:-)
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You thought wrong. The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000. Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary. I gave one of the lower numbers. A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
From your link, the money shot:
Steffie Woolhandler, study co-author, professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, and a primary care physician at Cambridge Health Alliance, noted: “Historically, every other developed nation has achieved universal health care through some form of nonprofit national health insurance. Our failure to do so means that all Americans pay higher health care costs, and 45,000 pay with their lives.â€
Uh, yeah, pure as the wind driven snow, that one....
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.
Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here.
Keep chugging that Kool Aid, DUmmie.
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Nice try. However, that is one of the DU provided avatars. If there is a copyright issue, Skinner and co. would have to have paid to use it. Copyright, however, is limited in duration so my guess is that particular drawing is no longer covered.
So, let me get this straight.
You are using the 'I didn't know any better' defense ? :rofl:
Okay, if you happen to be in the United Kingdom, the image fell into PD in 1985. (life +70 years) HOWEVER - The legality is kinda grey in the United States, because of Clinton's DMCA. -Mainly because a tool was used to reproduce it, (in this case, a PC) and according to the DMCA, the tools aren't legal to use in any way. -It's ridiculous.
But let's continue, shall we ?
Here is a common DU avatar that is still VERY protected by copyright.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/amelie.jpg)
it comes from here -
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwNzkwMTk5Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMDAzMDI5._V1_SY475_SX329_.jpg)
..Definitely not 70 years old.
The way the DMCA works, is every reception of this image is a violation. So, if you scroll through a page on DU with posters who use this avatar, every time it pops up on your screen is one count. It also gets lodged in your PC's web cache, so you have actually copied it -in some cases, multiple times.
..and the 'I didn't know any better' defense won't cut it in court. You know that.
The odds of anything actually happening to you (or anyone who has just read this post) - pretty much nil - BUT that doesn't change the fact that a copyright law has been broken, has it ?
And my point is ?
-You seem to be high and mighty with copyrights that you feel have been violated against you, but seem to have no problem doing the same thing against someone else. Get your own house in order first.
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(http://grants.cla.umn.edu/assets/img/brown.jpg)
Since my photo has generated such interest, I will clarify a few things. It is now precisely 4 1/2 years old. I now have long hair several inches past my shoulders, and I am exactly 4 1/2 years older. Alas, no marines were in the vicinity for me to make goo goo eyes at while it was being taken. In fact, no men were around at the time. A female coworker took the photo and put it up on the website. I did not choose it, and there is nothing seductive or inappropriate about it. . . .
You must have missed the bulletin, but your fellow cavers will no doubt confirm that I am far too ugly with a personality much too unbearable to possibly have a husband. Not anymore anyway. I am blissfully able to do exactly as I please. . . .
Seriously, there aren't many unmarried men my age. If I got out more, that would doubtless help a lot.
Oh, I think your photo is just fine, Alex. You seem like an attractive and intelligent woman, and I admire you for coming over here and mixing it up with us conservatives. And your age would not be a problem.
The problem is--well, there are a couple. I can't figure out your attitude toward men, if you are prejudiced against us or not. On the one hand, you put up this hard feminist shell, like all men are potential rapists. On the other hand, you come over here and flirt with us boys. :-*
Then there are your political views. You are a Democrat, which means you are in favor of Big Government and the forced redistribution of wealth. I am a conservative, which means I believe that our federal government should be limited to the powers granted it in the Constitution. That rules out wealth redistribution. I am opposed to taking wealth from some citizens, no matter how evil or rich, by force, against their will, in order to give it to other citizens, now matter how nice or needy, or to pay their bills. I believe that's a form of involuntary servitude. I believe in helping the poor and needy, but that such charity should be private and voluntary.
Then there are your moral views. You are OK with abortion. I am opposed to the willful taking of innocent human life.
But as far as your looks--judging by your photo, that would not be a problem.
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I bet you tie us to the birther movement
I would never assume anyone is a birther unless they start talking that crap. Granted, I'm guilty of making all kinds o assumptions about conservatives, but I'm not going to assume someone is a brain-dead birther unless he makes that clear himself.
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So, let me get this straight.
You are using the 'I didn't know any better' defense ? :rofl:
Okay, if you happen to be in the United Kingdom, the image fell into PD in 1985. (life +70 years) HOWEVER - The legality is kinda grey in the United States, because of Clinton's DMCA. -Mainly because a tool was used to reproduce it, (in this case, a PC) and according to the DMCA, the tools aren't legal to use in any way. -It's ridiculous.
But let's continue, shall we ?
Here is a common DU avatar that is still VERY protected by copyright.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/amelie.jpg)
it comes from here -
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwNzkwMTk5Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMDAzMDI5._V1_SY475_SX329_.jpg)
..Definitely not 70 years old.
The way the DMCA works, is every reception of this image is a violation. So, if you scroll through a page on DU with posters who use this avatar, every time it pops up on your screen is one count. It also gets lodged in your PC's web cache, so you have actually copied it -in some cases, multiple times.
..and the 'I didn't know any better' defense won't cut it in court. You know that.
The odds of anything actually happening to you (or anyone who has just read this post) - pretty much nil - BUT that doesn't change the fact that a copyright law has been broken, has it ?
And my point is ?
-You seem to be high and mighty with copyrights that you feel have been violated against you, but seem to have no problem doing the same thing against someone else. Get your own house in order first.
Take it up with the site owners. Legal responsibility falls to them.
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(http://grants.cla.umn.edu/assets/img/brown.jpg)
Oh, I think your photo is just fine, Alex. You seem like an attractive and intelligent woman, and I admire you for coming over here and mixing it up with us conservatives. And your age would not be a problem.
The problem is--well, there are a couple. I can't figure out your attitude toward men, if you are prejudiced against us or not. On the one hand, you put up this hard feminist shell, like all men are potential rapists. On the other hand, you come over here and flirt with us boys. :-*
Then there are your political views. You are a Democrat, which means you are in favor of Big Government and the forced redistribution of wealth. I am a conservative, which means I believe that our federal government should be limited to the powers granted it in the Constitution. That rules out wealth redistribution. I am opposed to taking wealth from some citizens, no matter how evil or rich, by force, against their will, in order to give it to other citizens, now matter how nice or needy, or to pay their bills. I believe that's a form of involuntary servitude. I believe in helping the poor and needy, but that such charity should be private and voluntary.
Then there are your moral views. You are OK with abortion. I am opposed to the willful taking of innocent human life.
But as far as your looks--judging by your photo, that would not be a problem.
There is no inconsistency between being a feminist and flirting "with the boys." I have never said nor do I believe that all men are potential rapists. I get particularly ticked off at some of the men at DU because they claim to be feminists while insisting that posting about gender issues is "flame bait." Not only that, some feel entitled to tell me I'm not a real feminist because I disagree with them. I much prefer someone be straight with me then pull that bullshit. It's the dishonesty of it all that really ticks me off. One even recently claimed that everything since the right to vote (1920) was "small potatoes." They call themselves feminists for rhetorical purposes. A number have the annoying habit of saying "I support NARAL" while turning around and telling women to keep their mouths shut or referring to a woman as a "skanky snatch." I get sick of the insinuation that abortion rights are the sum total of acceptable feminist causes. I certainly do not hate men, even if some of them tick me off. Some women tick me off too; that doesn't mean I hate women. So when you see me pissed off over there, it's often because I can't stand the pretense. I also hate the constant efforts to shut up feminists.
The Democratic Party does not favor redistribution of wealth. That is precisely what the current tax system that penalizes people who work for a wage over the elite who live off investment income. Some of those guys manage to pay zero taxes, despite being mutli-millionares. I think we all know Romney must have had a damn good reason for not releasing his taxes. I see only two logical scenarios: he didn't pay taxes some of those years and/or he applied for amnesty under the IRS program that allowed tax cheats to declare money that had illegally stashed overseas if they filed amended returns for a few years. I don't want to refight the election but rather cite that as an example of redistribution. You and I pay taxes for the roads, airports, and ports through which products sold by big corporations are transported, while we pay the taxes for the infrastructure that guys like Romney get for free, despite using far more of it than we do. I have one car. An average family of four might have two. Rich guys have several, yet some manage to avoid paying taxes at all. I have nothing against rich people and don't begrudge them their success, but they should pay their way. A number of corporations also pay no taxes, and while the US has a relatively high marginal tax rate it has a low EFFECTIVE tax rate, meaning what they actually pay.
I will also note that since I live in MN, my taxes are redistributed to the red states, all of which (except for Texas) live off the federal trough because they take in more in federal money than they send to DC. States like MN and NJ are the opposite. That GOP redistribution argument is a smokescreen to hide all the redistribution currently going on. Add all the corporate subsidies, sweetheart contracts, and special.tax breaks, and the whole thing is rigged against average Americans. That is something that extends beyond party and any particular presidential administration.
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There is no inconsistency between being a feminist and flirting "with the boys." I have never said nor do I believe that all men are potential rapists. I get particularly ticked off at some of the men at DU because they not claim to be feminists while insisting that posting about gender issues is "flame bait." Not only that, some feel entitled to tell me I'm not a real feminist because I disagree with them. I much prefer someone be straight with me then pull that bullshit. It's the dishonest of it all that really ticks me off. They call themselves feminist for purely rhetorical reasons. A number have the annoying habit of saying "I support NARAL" while turning around and telling women to keep their mouths shut or referring to a woman as a "skanky snatch." I get sick of the insinuation that abortion rights are the sum total of acceptable feminist causes. I certainly do not hate men, even if some of them tick me off. Some women tick me off too; that doesn't mean I hate women. So when you see me pissed off over there, it's often because I can't stand the pretense. I also hate the constant efforts to shut up feminists.
First of all, the Democratic Party does not favor redistribution of wealth. That is precisely what the current tax system that penalizes people who work for a wage over the elite who live off investment income. Some of those guys manage to pay zero taxes, despite being mutli-millionares. I think we all know Romney must have had a damn good reason for not releasing his taxes. I see only two logical scenarios: he didn't pay taxes some of those years and/or he applied for amnesty under the IRS program that allowed rich tax cheats to declare money that had illegally stashed overseas if they filed amended returns for a few years. I don't want to refight the election but rather cite that as an example of redistribution. You and I pay taxes for the roads, airports, and ports through which products sold by big corporations are transported, while we pay the taxes for the infrastructure that guys like Romney get for free, despite using far more of it than we do. I have one car. An average family of four might have two. Rich guys have several, yet some manage to avoid paying taxes at all. I have nothing against rich people and don't begrudge them their success, but they should pay their way. A number of corporations also pay no taxes, and while the US has a relatively high marginal tax rate it has a low EFFECTIVE tax rate, meaning what they actually pay.
I will also note that since I live in MN, my taxes are redistributed to the red states, all of which (except for Texas) live off the federal trough because they take in more in federal money than they send to DC. States like MN and NJ are the opposite. That GOP redistribution argument is a smokescreen to hide all the redistribution currently going on. Add all the corporate subsidies, sweetheart contracts, and special.tax breaks, and the whole thing is rigged against average Americans. That is something that extends beyond party and any particular presidential administration.
thanks for playing with us Alex.
Just a note about your (and your friends) assertion about Corporations. What IS a Corporation? A Corporation is a business venture that in most cases are Companies of interest to you that is owned by multiple people.
Let's take an average "evil corporation" that the DUmmies frequently criticize. Let's start, XYZ Corp has 3 billion shares outstanding. That means that XYZ is divided up into 3 billion tiny little pieces. So WHO owns XYZ Corp? Some evil little guy in a suit with an elevator in his garage? Nope.
XYZ Corp is owned by MILLIONS of people in the USA and all over the world. XYZ Corp is owned by school teachers, university professors, union plumbers, railroad retirees and millions of other Americans.
So the DUmbest of the DUmmies advocate taxing the shit out of XYZ Corp. Ok so what then? The value of XYZ Corp will be reduced because of lower profit and lower Market Cap. This means that the taxing entity, the Federal Government is taking money from whom? From a rich guy on a throne in Malibu? Nope.
By taxing a Corporation you reduce the value of the stock owned by millions of Americans. Think of all the reduced retirement accounts, the shrinking 401k's, the reduction in money to send ones grandchildren to college.
Even you, Alex... probably own shares (if not directly, through your retirement fund) of EVIL companies like EXXON, Sempra Energy, AMGEN and DOW.
SO... you tell me Alex, what happens if Corporations are taxed more than they are now? Where will that money come from? Hmmm?
And while I have you here Alex, are you one of those lunatic liberals who believes that life starts upon first breath? Yeah, I saw some DUmmies claim that until a breath is taken, the woman has the right to do whatever she wishes.
Oh and one more thing lol... I'm white and male and I despise Odumbo. Does that make me racist?
I would support Ben Carson for POTUS because he's a brilliant man, a good person and he's incredibly intelligent. AND he's black!!
So all the DUmmies that claim that all conservatives and Republicans MUST be racists... how does that add up in my case? I will answer that, it doesn't.
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Alex you still haven't answered one basic question that seems to stump all gun grabbers and you've also avoided it too both times you been here.
If there are already 20k or more rules on the books at the federal...state...and local level about the use of firearms...what's one more gonna do?
Shouldn't we enforce the existing laws first?
I don't wanna hear your silly deflection about abortions...that's a diversion tactic and a rather silly one at that.
Just be honest...what is the outcome you'd hope to see from one more law added to the already overcrowded regulation book?
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There is no inconsistency between being a feminist and flirting "with the boys." I have never said nor do I believe that all men are potential rapists. I get particularly ticked off at some of the men at DU because they claim to be feminists while insisting that posting about gender issues is "flame bait." Not only that, some feel entitled to tell me I'm not a real feminist because I disagree with them. I much prefer someone be straight with me then pull that bullshit. It's the dishonesty of it all that really ticks me off. One even recently claimed that everything since the right to vote (1920) was "small potatoes." They call themselves feminists for rhetorical purposes. A number have the annoying habit of saying "I support NARAL" while turning around and telling women to keep their mouths shut or referring to a woman as a "skanky snatch." I get sick of the insinuation that abortion rights are the sum total of acceptable feminist causes. I certainly do not hate men, even if some of them tick me off. Some women tick me off too; that doesn't mean I hate women. So when you see me pissed off over there, it's often because I can't stand the pretense. I also hate the constant efforts to shut up feminists.
The Democratic Party does not favor redistribution of wealth. That is precisely what the current tax system that penalizes people who work for a wage over the elite who live off investment income. Some of those guys manage to pay zero taxes, despite being mutli-millionares. I think we all know Romney must have had a damn good reason for not releasing his taxes. I see only two logical scenarios: he didn't pay taxes some of those years and/or he applied for amnesty under the IRS program that allowed tax cheats to declare money that had illegally stashed overseas if they filed amended returns for a few years. I don't want to refight the election but rather cite that as an example of redistribution. You and I pay taxes for the roads, airports, and ports through which products sold by big corporations are transported, while we pay the taxes for the infrastructure that guys like Romney get for free, despite using far more of it than we do. I have one car. An average family of four might have two. Rich guys have several, yet some manage to avoid paying taxes at all. I have nothing against rich people and don't begrudge them their success, but they should pay their way. A number of corporations also pay no taxes, and while the US has a relatively high marginal tax rate it has a low EFFECTIVE tax rate, meaning what they actually pay.
I will also note that since I live in MN, my taxes are redistributed to the red states, all of which (except for Texas) live off the federal trough because they take in more in federal money than they send to DC. States like MN and NJ are the opposite. That GOP redistribution argument is a smokescreen to hide all the redistribution currently going on. Add all the corporate subsidies, sweetheart contracts, and special.tax breaks, and the whole thing is rigged against average Americans. That is something that extends beyond party and any particular presidential administration.
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Romney did produce tax records.
Mitt Romney made $13.7 million last year and paid $1.94 million in federal income taxes, giving him an effective tax rate of 14.1%, his campaign said Friday.
That was after he and his wife donated 4M to charity.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/21/pf/taxes/romney-tax-return/index.html
So even if you made a few valid points in your reply, I have to dismiss it as you included too many things that are not true.
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The democrat party does not support the redistribution of wealth? That is either a cute attempt at humor or you are ignorant of the policies of those you support. The main function of the democrat party is to redistribute wealth in order to buy votes.
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The Democratic Party does not favor redistribution of wealth. That is precisely what the current tax system that penalizes people who work for a wage over the elite who live off investment income. Some of those guys manage to pay zero taxes, despite being mutli-millionares. I think we all know Romney must have had a damn good reason for not releasing his taxes. I see only two logical scenarios: he didn't pay taxes some of those years and/or he applied for amnesty under the IRS program that allowed tax cheats to declare money that had illegally stashed overseas if they filed amended returns for a few years. I don't want to refight the election but rather cite that as an example of redistribution. You and I pay taxes for the roads, airports, and ports through which products sold by big corporations are transported, while we pay the taxes for the infrastructure that guys like Romney get for free, despite using far more of it than we do. I have one car. An average family of four might have two. Rich guys have several, yet some manage to avoid paying taxes at all. I have nothing against rich people and don't begrudge them their success, but they should pay their way. A number of corporations also pay no taxes, and while the US has a relatively high marginal tax rate it has a low EFFECTIVE tax rate, meaning what they actually pay.
You are a brainless idiot that listens to talking points drivel and believes it without question.
"Dems do not favor redistribution"...that is either a lie as big as anything spewed out of odumbos mouth or proof of a stupidity beyond human recognition.
That is precisely what the new mayor of NYC carries on about,it is the,for the moment,desperation campaign dems are going to try in 2014 and is exactly what Ocare does and was intended for.
Do you have any clue why capital gains are taxed at a lower rate then income?
You either don`t or once more are content to sit back and spew the lie because you think the politics of envy is a winning scheme.
The latter is probably the case as your ilk worships Soros and happily cheered Buffet as he said the rich should pay more,all the while as one of or the richest men in America he fights the IRS to not pay taxes they say he owes.
Educated ****ing cretin.
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Take it up with the site owners. Legal responsibility falls to them.
So, what you are saying is that linking to the image is fine, but actually hosting it is the problem. Gotcha.
Your site has been informed that you are using that photo if violation of Photobucket's privacy and Photobucket provisions. In downloading it or continuing to use a photo which is not legally publicly accessible on the web, you are engaging in THEFT. That shows a complete disregard for property rights and makes you a CRIMINAL. Each and every time someone here uses that photo, they are willfully and purposefully violating the property rights of others and engaging in criminal activity. Photobucket removed those pictures for a reason, yet you lack enough respect for PROPERTY rights to follow the law. That shows how completely hollow your political ideology is. If property rights can be used to justify allowing 25,000 people to die every year, it's all good, but if violating property rights allows you to make fun of someone who dares to think differently from you, the hell with the law. That is hypocrisy, which is of course the hallmark of teabaggers.
Here is your problem.
YOU posted the image on DU, making it 'legally publicly accessible on the web'. Once you did that You GAVE PERMISSION for it to be used via DU's TOS.
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Once you posted that picture, you gave it to the world. -And once something falls into being free to distribute, it cannot be reclassified as no longer free to distribute. The best you can do is make it no longer available, but the copies that exist while it was available are still legal to own.
Now is someone went and hacked your PB account to get that image, you would have a case. But that didn't happen.
-If I were you, I'd consider that a lesson learned and not post something that you don't want the world to have copies of on DU again.
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I HATE that 9/11 BS. I hate all that conspiracy bullshit. You can't tie me to any of that garbage.
And when you came here and accused of planting the bombs in Boston? What was that?
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Interesting...
The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author’s observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.â€
Comment?
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Meanwhile, here's an entire thread of Proglodytes making excuses as to why a rapist-murderer who had trial, discovery, counsel, appeals, etc. should not be put to death
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024351106
but 1.5 million children (overwhelmingly minority) can be snuffed for free and without question every year.
And then they will discuss why the victim should never be allowed to own a gun for defense.
And then they'll discuss the "culture of rape."
Save the criminal.
Disarm the victim.
Accuse the innocent
Slaughter the unborn
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: WE KNOW WHAT'S FAIR
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Meanwhile, here's an entire thread of Proglodytes making excuses as to why a rapist-murderer who had trial, discovery, counsel, appeals, etc. should not be put to death
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024351106
but 1.5 million children (overwhelmingly minority) can be snuffed for free and without question every year.
And then they will discuss why the victim should never be allowed to own a gun for defense.
And then they'll discuss the "culture of rape."
Save the criminal.
Disarm the victim.
Accuse the innocent
Slaughter the unborn
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: WE KNOW WHAT'S FAIR
And we are going to impose what's fair on our minions at the threat of a point of a gun.
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The Democratic Party does not favor redistribution of wealth.
You are so full of shit...
I think we all know Romney must have had a damn good reason for not releasing his taxes. I see only two logical scenarios: he didn't pay taxes some of those years and/or he applied for amnesty under the IRS program that allowed tax cheats to declare money that had illegally stashed overseas if they filed amended returns for a few years.
You think "we all know"? :whatever:
Romney released what he was legally obligated to release and gave the finger to the liberal vermin who would have never been satisfied with anything he said or did. But, it's all good, you cretins ****ed everybody that lives off of an investment income when the rate was raised in 2013. In your greed, you screwed everyone from the retired billionaire to the retired teacher.
As for the rest of your assumptions, they are just that - your assumptions. Had any of what you said actually happened, it would have been wall to wall news forever. Instead, it was a bunch of bullshit rumors that no one could prove, not even Little Harry Reid.
I will also note that since I live in MN, my taxes are redistributed to the red states, all of which (except for Texas) live off the federal trough because they take in more in federal money than they send to DC. States like MN and NJ are the opposite. That GOP redistribution argument is a smokescreen to hide all the redistribution currently going on. Add all the corporate subsidies, sweetheart contracts, and special.tax breaks, and the whole thing is rigged against average Americans. That is something that extends beyond party and any particular presidential administration.
This bullshit meme? :whatever: Link it, DUmmie...
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Why is she still here? She was banned once. While I believe in giving people second chances, Alex is not people. She's soylent green. :rant:
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I will also note that since I live in MN, my taxes are redistributed to the red states, all of which (except for Texas) live off the federal trough because they take in more in federal money than they send to DC. States like MN and NJ are the opposite.
There are so many holes in that meme that it is hardly worth addressing, but let me just say that the vast majority of that money goes into buying votes in Blue enclaves and Federal programs which we could do without handily, and military spending which by its nature is going to be concentrated in States where there are military installations and the host state governments are not actively hostile to the military using training land within the state.
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Why is she still here? She was banned once. While I believe in giving people second chances, Alex is not people. She's soylent green. :rant:
How dare you ?
Soylent green is people !
Spoiler alert ?
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How dare you ?
Soylent green is people !
Spoiler alert ?
How dare you dare me?!?!?! 11111 eleventy 1111111!!!!!!!
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How dare you dare me?!?!?! 11111 eleventy 1111111!!!!!!!
I thought you would have learned your lesson last night after the switching and paddling you probably got! Daring people? That's a paddlin'.
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So, what you are saying is that linking to the image is fine, but actually hosting it is the problem. Gotcha.
Here is your problem.
YOU posted the image on DU, making it 'legally publicly accessible on the web'. Once you did that You GAVE PERMISSION for it to be used via DU's TOS.
Once you posted that picture, you gave it to the world. -And once something falls into being free to distribute, it cannot be reclassified as no longer free to distribute. The best you can do is make it no longer available, but the copies that exist while it was available are still legal to own.
Now is someone went and hacked your PB account to get that image, you would have a case. But that didn't happen.
-If I were you, I'd consider that a lesson learned and not post something that you don't want the world to have copies of on DU again.
How do you know Skinner hasn't paid for copyright to use that avatar? I would assume he has. It often doesn't cost much. I know at work we paid a small sum to use a design for our website and flyers and the payment we made, I was told, covered future use.
I took the photo off DU. I changed access on Photobucket so it is no longer public. Photobucket removed the photos from this site (the links I knew about) and informed you use of the photo constituted a violation of copyright and their terms of service. You have no excuse. Unless of course you really don't respect property rights. And yes, I'm quite aware that I used your own arguments against you (the irony Big Dog referred to), That was the point. Do you really care about the principals you espouse? It appears not. You make excuses about violating property rights when it suits you.
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Romney did produce tax records.
Romney provided one year and then a promise to provide another. He eventually provided an estimate for that second year (2011) and IIRC released the second year shortly before the election. Presidential candidates in recent years have released multiple years of tax returns. http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns?OpenDocument He took a lot of heat for refusing to release them. and it came up often during the election. In my opinion, it looked like he had something to hide. Some voters came to the same conclusion. My belief is that refusing to release more of his tax returns and the 47% comment were his biggest liabilities in the election. That and the fact he's a prat, but he was always going to be a prat. It's who he is, so he couldn't help that. The other two things he could have controlled, particularly releasing his taxes. It was the only thing he didn't flip flop about during the election. He must have had a damn good reason why.
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You are a dumb,idiotic moron...God help those you "teach" as they have no hope if they listen to your lunatic crap.
Why did your party dump Hillary in 2008?
How does that make you feel?
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And when you came here and accused of planting the bombs in Boston? What was that?
That was a joke. You all seem to think I actually believed you were the bombers. I did not.
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FYI, I won't be responding to posts that are insulting.
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No idiot,you want to play here then you ovary up.
If not then run away like the coward leftists are.
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FYI, I won't be responding to posts that are insulting.
But you feel free to "joke" about bombs in my town that maimed hundreds and would have killed thousands had the bombers been more patient. Bullshit and you know it. You've been dying for an act of violence to occur with a "Tea Party" flag on it but, unfortunately for you, all the violence comes from leftists.
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But you feel free to "joke" about bombs in my town that maimed hundreds and would have killed thousands had the bombers been more patient. Bullshit and you know it. You've been dying for an act of violence to occur with a "Tea Party" flag on it but, unfortunately for you, all the violence comes from leftists.
How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
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FYI, I won't be responding to posts that are insulting.
Alex,
I was polite and you didn't respond to my post. I even complimented your physical appearance albeit by comparing you to the wookie.
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How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
You are an ignorant and pitiful liar.
Truth always sucks for a leftist and you have proved once again how hateful and evil you truly are.
Muzzies would kill you in the blink of an eye if they could but in your asinine stupidity you think you can strike a bargain with them as a comrade in arms against capitalism.
You are the definition of idiocy...run to them and screech your "feminist" screed.
How will you enjoy the feel of a terrorist blade against your neck?
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That was a joke. You all seem to think I actually believed you were the bombers. I did not.
When has calling people terrorists ever be seen as a joke?
DU was spewing an incessant stream of accusation -- just like when Giffords had been shot -- and you seem to think that was a joke?
I don't believe you. I'm pretty sure you're lying to avoid admitting you were 1) factually wrong 2) shot yourself in the foot after sticking your foot in your mouth and 3)disappointed that RWers weren't to blame
FYI, I won't be responding to posts that are insulting.
But you reserve the right to call people racist, sexist, hate-mongering, would-be terrorists.
How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
You can't even keep your talking points straight.
AQ and Islamists are hyper-centralized government types so how can they be akin to anti-government types like McVeigh.
The Tsarnaevs were your typical leftist welfare junkies bred and raised on leftist propaganda on how evil America is supposed to be.
You also have the Cleveland 6 and the guy that shot-up the Family Research Center, the guy that took hostages at the Discovery Channel over global warming, the OWS rioters, Joe Stack was a fan of Marx and government healthcare before he flew his plane into the IRS building, Jared Loughner would be at home in DU's creative speculation forum.
Shall I go on?
BTW: For someone who claims accusing us of being bombers was just a joke you sure seem determined to justify that joke.
Shouldn't you be off siphoning the brains from viable infants while they squirm in your hand? After all, it's how you plan to lift those not-white types who aren't anything like you from poverty.
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How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
More and rising bullshit. Oklahoma City happened in the last century, let's try to keep up. Abortion bombings (how many of those have happened recently) are the result of religious extremism, similar to the Muslim extremists, nothing to do with right or left. The only anti-government movement in this country has connections with Occupy and the radical left. You know, like the mentor of our current president.
The "Boston guys," as you so cavalierly dismiss them, were raised and schooled in Cambridge. They were given money, education, housing, and tolerance. Yet they decided to bomb Boston.
Finally, I'd like to see a list of people who openly threaten the president with death in the media. You know, on par with the media representations of killing the previous president.
ETA: Thanks to Sgt. Snugglebunny for the examples listed above.
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Alex is a joke. BainsBane is a joke.
And would you lookie there, I'm suddenly being ignored by one member. I wonder who it is. Probably the same stupid bitch who keeps bitch-slapping me. :rofl:
Hey, at least she's transparent.
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Ahh man, I just got home with more beer to enjoy this. Oh well, moving on.
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Oh dear, now we'll never get that list of mean-old right-wingers who have threatened the president. What's really remarkable is your self-restraint, Chris_
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Hi5 to counter ^
So Allie is gone . . . 'bout time.
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Man!
You ruin all our fun.
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How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
This post is the biggest piece of bull shit you have posted thus far, and that's saying a lot. OKC is the only "recent" terrorist attack associated with an anti-government type. I guess you can also bring up the guy who shot Tiller too, but other than that almost every terrorist and mass shooter has been associated with left-wing ideology or radical Islam.
I find it comical that you have associated Al Qaeda with the right-wing. Doesn't your party do everything in its power to downplay the association between radical Islam and terrorism. Didn't the Obama administration scrub numerous manuals for the FBI, CIA, etc and eliminate any material that was derogatory to radical Islam.
Didn't the Obama administration pursue a foreign policy that has helped Al Qaeda take root and expand its presence in numerous Middle Eastern countries? Didn't you liberals cry bloody murder when GWB brought war to Al Qaeda and its affiliates?
You're an absolute joke. Stick to Brazilian dance rituals from the colonial era.
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So, BanesBane managed to get herself banned again, for virtually the same reason as she did the first time. Well done.
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How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
Wow, how do you fit so much wrong in one post?
McVeigh was NOT religious or even right-wing. But you keep pushing that one. "Those Boston guys" were anti-American, not right or left per se, although they seem to have had a real "identification" with the Occupy retards.
Which danger do the "right-wing extremists" present, pray tell? People should govern their own lives, and be responsible for themselves? Oh yeah--that IS a big danger to nanny gub'mint, ain't it now?
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Good bye and good riddance, you psychopathic bitch.
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"Ok City bombing"
Someone needs to read up on Patcon, and the doings of Jesse Trentadue in relation to the death of his brother Kenneth, and the involvement of the with-holder general.
But that would lead to conclusions that DUmmies find uncomfortable, and therefore surely false.
CMD
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Wow, how do you fit so much wrong in one post?
McVeigh was NOT religious or even right-wing. But you keep pushing that one. "Those Boston guys" were anti-American, not right or left per se, although they seem to have had a real "identification" with the Occupy retards.
Which danger do the "right-wing extremists" present, pray tell? People should govern their own lives, and be responsible for themselves? Oh yeah--that IS a big danger to nanny gub'mint, ain't it now?
The younger brother voted for Obama.
The media and lefties are always desperate to associate terrorist attacks and shootings with right wing extremists, yet they almost always perpetuated by lefties or radical Muslims.
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Good bye and good riddance, you psychopathic bitch.
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Trav, I love you, you know that. But I'm concerned that you're not saying how you really feel sometimes. You shouldn't keep stuff bottled up.
:-)
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Trav, I love you, you know that. But I'm concerned that you're not saying how you really feel sometimes. You shouldn't keep stuff bottled up.
:-)
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Stupid liberal women bring out my best side.
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Stupid liberal women bring out my best side.
And here I thought you Southern women just said "Well, bless her heart."
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Aw crap, lost another squeaky toy. :rant:
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"Bane! Come back, Bane!"
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"Bane! Come back, Bane!"
This is her second go-around.
I doubt the next one will be any different.
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This is her second go-around.
I doubt the next one will be any different.
And rest assured, she'll try again, after beating her breasts and whining about how we're all so unfair to her.
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She was here long enough to get across any point she wanted to. If she wants to double down on the "right wing terrorist" line, she can stay at the DUmp where that ignorance is welcome.
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This is her second go-around.
I doubt the next one will be any different.
Tampons come in 12-packs...and every one has a fuse.
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How do you figure that? Al Qaeda and co are right-wing extremists. The Ok City bombings, abortion clinic bombings. Even those Boston guys were found to have been hooked on right-wing anti-govt crap. Your point might have been true in the 60s and 70s, but the danger today is from anti-governmentm right-wing extremists. These assholes even make open death threats against the President in national media.
Yeah, it's a hallmark of 'right-wing extremists' to study the writings of Al Gore (remember that Earth In The Balance was found in his cabin, Alex), and be influenced by them . . . ::) :whatever:
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So, what you are saying is that linking to the image is fine, but actually hosting it is the problem. Gotcha.
It's like saying that holding a bag of stolen money from a bank is ok as long as you were not the one that broke into the bank. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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The Democratic Party does not favor redistribution of wealth.
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"Bane! Come back, Bane!"
Okay, what did she do this time? :popcorn:
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Okay, what did she do this time? :popcorn:
Same crap as last time, Dori.
She was getting her butt handed to her and she started spewing bs about the Boston bombtards.
She figures if she gets banned, she can run back to the DUmp and claim victory.
DUmptards then pant-hoot how wonderful she is.