BainsBane Propositioned By A Pimp

[obumazombie]

Oh, yes, and I am confident the irony escaped the woman who wrote it.

Libs are immune to it.
But free irony is a basic human right.

[anti-spelunker]

Make that 25,001.

I love a happy ending!

That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property. 

[anti-spelunker]

I find amusement in that the self appointed queen of IP rights has no problem stealing an image when it benefits her.

This is her avatar at DU.




Which was taken from this image drawn by Sir John Tenniel without permission. AFAIK, his descendants still hold the copyright - keeping the image from public domain (unlike the text itself).


 

Nice try.  However, that is one of the DU provided avatars.  If there is a copyright issue, Skinner and co. would have to have paid to use it.  Copyright, however, is limited in duration so my guess is that particular drawing is no longer covered. 

[HawkHogan]

That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property. 

It's a bullshit number.  Hospitals can't refuse anyone for lack of insurance.  

Your messiah just cost about 6 million people their insurance.

You are a fraud.

[obumazombie]

It's a bullshit number.  Hospitals can't refuse anyone for lack of insurance.  

Your messiah just cost about 6 million people their insurance.

You are a fraud.

In the end there will be more on medicair/medicaid, and the same amount or more of uninsured than before owebumacare. So one thing is certain, owebuma didn't give a damn about the uninsured. He had another agenda, as libs always do.

[HawkHogan]

In the end there will be more on medicair/medicaid, and the same amount or more of uninsured than before owebumacare. So one thing is certain, owebuma didn't give a damn about the uninsured. He had another agenda, as libs always do.

Of course, and more and more doctors are refusing to accept any new Medicaid patients.

YES WE CAN!!!

[Big Dog]

That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property. 

I thought it was an "estimate" of the number of people killed by eeeeeevil guns each year. Both numbers are equally specious - hey, equality!

Since you are estimating numbers without evidence, why not think big? 300 brazilian people die each year from lack of access to healthcare.

It takes a Doctor of Braziliology to understand, I know.

[anti-spelunker]

I thought it was an "estimate" of the number of people killed by eeeeeevil guns each year. Both numbers are equally specious - hey, equality!

Since you are estimating numbers without evidence, why not think big? 300 brazilian people die each year from lack of access to healthcare.

It takes a Doctor of Braziliology to understand, I know.

You thought wrong.  The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000.  Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary.  I gave one of the lower numbers.  A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study.  http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.
Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here. 

[Big Dog]

You thought wrong.  The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000.  Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary.  I gave one of the lower numbers.  A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study.  http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.

Again, "estimates" and "approximations" from sources with an agenda.  See "millions of jobs created or saved" and monthly "unemployment" figures. If the report didn't support your leftist, collectives delusions, you'd condemn it as "denial".

Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here. 

Or, the number will rise because many millions* more have been hit with higher deductibles and copayments, and can't afford to use their Obama-compliant insurance; coupled with the reduction in providers in rural and poorer areas due to lower reimbursement rates under your Lord and Master's signature achievement.

Another failure of central planning in the making.


*Millions < brazilians, but you don't have to take off your pants to count millions.

[Freeper]

You thought wrong.  The current approximation from DOJ from gunshot deaths every year, including suicides, is about 32,000.  Estimates of people who die from lack of access to healthcare vary.  I gave one of the lower numbers.  A quick Google search turned up an estimate of 45,000 from a Harvard Study.  http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
I realize that Harvard doesn't carry the prestige around here that blowhard Rush or lunatic Beck do, but perhaps you can bring yourself to look at it anyway.
Of course the evil Obamacare should reduce those deaths, which will no doubt create even greater angst among some here. 

Bull shit Obamacare is not going to reduce deaths, they will be given a pain pill though.

[anti-spelunker]

Again, "estimates" and "approximations" from sources with an agenda. \

DOJ collects data from police departments around the country.  Are you suggesting the nation's police departments are in league with liberals to make gun owners look bad? 

There are links to the Harvard Study for you to read yourself.  The agenda is knowledge.  Naturally that is an anathema to you. 

As for the future, only time will tell.

[Freeper]

DOJ collects data from police departments around the country.  Are you suggesting the nation's police departments are in league with liberals to make gun owners look bad? 

There are links to the Harvard Study for you to read yourself.  The agenda is knowledge.  Naturally that is an anathema to you. 

As for the future, only time will tell.

I'm certain the DOJ works fast and furiously to maintain integrity.

[anti-spelunker]

I'm certain the DOJ works fast and furiously to maintain integrity.

They have long served as a wide receiver of data. 

I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about.  You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient. 

[Freeper]

They have long served as a wide receiver of data. 

I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about.  You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient. 

No I ignore liberal talking points being passed off as facts.

Just think of us as patriots because dissent is patriotic.

[tanstaafl]

That number is an estimate of how many people die each year from lack of access to healthcare, a follow up on your comment about healthcare as property. 

I thought 25,000 was the how many people died from guns. As you posted over at the island of misfits

Before you upped it to 32,000 in a post here at the cave.

You're confusing me. Do I need to buy more ammo? Less ammo? Buy guns, sell guns, trade guns. I want to do the right thing.

[Skul]

They have long served as a wide receiver of data. 

I think I finally understand what being a conservative is all about.  You simply ignore and reject all facts and information that you find inconvenient. 

Since you're such a whiz at this, how about a nice break down of ages and perhaps the actual reason for the death.
How many were pushers, rapists, or other idiot involved in a crime?
Gangbangers offing themselves don't count for squat. I would encourage that.
Suicides are out, too.
Give us some meaningful number reflecting innocent people killed. Here, you can include accidents.
That doesn't fit into your agenda does it?
Explain why disarming those innocent people is in their best interest.
Very sorry that's inconvenient for you to explore rational facts.

[Big Dog]

DOJ collects data from police departments around the country.  Are you suggesting the nation's police departments are in league with liberals to make gun owners look bad? 

Why, no, I'm not. You are a very foolish girl; particularly for one who fancies herself to be on the right side of the bell curve.

The agenda is knowledge.  Naturally that is an anathema to you. 

You make the Dog laugh!



The really funny part is your hubris, even though you have a degree with less value than an AA in Computer Science. By your own account, you were an unemployed PhD on the street, being offered money for sex, and now you beg capitalists for money to finance Esperanto performances of  The Vagina Monologues by transsexuals in clown shoes- all in the guise of "the humanities".

Oh, the humanities...



I've had a great time beating you like a red-headed stepchild, Alex. I really have, and I haven't even uncased the big guns yet.

[Traveshamockery]

Go home, Alex.  You're drunk. 

[RobJohnson]

Go home, Alex.  You're drunk. 

Did your husband give you permission to post here? 

[Traveshamockery]

Did your husband give you permission to post here? 

No, I had to sneak away.  I hope he doesn't find out.   

[anti-spelunker]

Why, no, I'm not. You are a very foolish girl; particularly for one who fancies herself to be on the right side of the bell curve.

You make the Dog laugh!



The really funny part is your hubris, even though you have a degree with less value than an AA in Computer Science. By your own account, you were an unemployed PhD on the street, being offered money for sex, and now you beg capitalists for money to finance Esperanto performances of  The Vagina Monologues by transsexuals in clown shoes- all in the guise of "the humanities".

Oh, the humanities...



I've had a great time beating you like a red-headed stepchild, Alex. I really have, and I haven't even uncased the big guns yet.

Indeed.  After working everyday since age 13 at at least one job if not two, I was unemployed for a time while I was changing careers.  

No Esperanto and no Vagina Monologues, and there is no begging involved.  Grants are entirely merit based.  They are not charity and are not taxed as such.  

[RobJohnson]

No, I had to sneak away.  I hope he doesn't find out.   

Be safe. We all know the wives of conservative men are not allowed to own guns for protection, I would hate for you to be number 25,001. I myself don't mind a good beating into submission once in a while but I am concerned about your shoulder and elbow pain.

[anti-spelunker]

Since my photo has generated such interest, I will clarify a few things.  It is now precisely 4  1/2 years old.  I now have long hair several inches past my shoulders, and I am exactly 4 1/2 years older.  Alas, no marines were in the vicinity for me to make goo goo eyes at while it was being taken.  In fact, no men were around at the time.  A female coworker took the photo and put it up on the website.  I did not choose it, and there is nothing seductive or inappropriate about it.  

[anti-spelunker]

Did your husband give you permission to post here? 

Hi Rob.  You must have missed the bulletin, but your fellow cavers will no doubt confirm that I am far too ugly with a personality much too unbearable to possibly have a husband.  Not anymore anyway.  I am blissfully able to do exactly as  I please. 

[RobJohnson]

It's too bad the young people did not sign up for the Affordable Care Act  which ended up creating the top heaviness. Those of us that are paying two and three times more for insurance this year won't be surprised when we pay even more next year. Now I work to pay health insurance so others don't have to.

Yeah, that seems fair to me liberals.