BainsBane Propositioned By A Pimp

[wasp69]

Because you brought that argument over here.  Also, why are you so intent on siding with him?  What do you care about one dummie vs. another?  You seem a bit too personally involved, 

You misunderstood my motivations, so I will attempt to explain.

One of my favorite scenes of all time is when Dr Frankenstein recoils in horror at what he has created, followed shortly thereafter of his realization that the blasphemy he brought into the world (by trying to play God) has grown into a malignancy he can neither control nor kill.  It's a brilliant metaphor about narcissistic arrogance and its predictable results.

Absolutely fantastic!

Blue on blue slapfights between a smarter-than-everyone-in-the-room liberal and a screaming, unreasonable, leftist ideologue bring that scene to vivid life.  It's better than live theater, it really is.  That is a big reason it's over here.  Otherwise, it's a testimony as to how tired of the good "Doctor's" shenanigans even DUmp howler monkeys are becoming.

I pick no sides because I hope it turns into a nuclear war where there are no survivors; I have no vested interest beyond a good giggle at the scratching and hair pulling; and, quite frankly, the "stuck in transmit" comment was too good to leave behind.

Does that clear things up for you?

[Big Dog]

Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life.  It is essential to human life and to a functioning society.  

"Healthcare" is goods and services. It is Property. Your natural right to Property extends only as far as your capacity to create, earn, or trade (buy and sell) it. Again, your rights do not create a claim against another person's life, liberty, or property (in this case, a doctor or hospital's goods or services).

Calling it "essential" still doesn't create a right to the goods or services of another person. It doesn't even create an enforceable claim to the goods or  services of another person. You can't take, or even demand it, just because you say you "need" it.

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[Freeper]

No, that is not how I would approach the subject.  I would examine the policies that led to credit default swaps and similar precarious trading.  Some of those policies began under Clinton and they accelerated under Bush.  There are many articles about this online you can read yourself. 

There are articles online? And here I thought all there was was porn.

[thundley4]

"Healthcare" is goods and services. It is Property. Your natural right to Property extends only as far as your capacity to create, earn, or trade (buy and sell) it. Again, your rights do not create a claim against another person's life, liberty, or property (in this case, a doctor or hospital's goods or services).

Calling it "essential" still doesn't create a right to the goods or services of another person. It doesn't even create an enforceable claim to the goods or  services of another person. You can't take, or even demand it, just because you say you "need" it.

(Edited for clarity)

Liberals even believe that internet access is a right.  Anything they want they are willing to lie and call it a right.

[Big Dog]

Alex,

You posted 27 times on this thread today between 9:00 AM and 4:00 PM.

Does the university know what you are doing on their time- and on their dime?

More importantly, what does this say about your attitude toward the taxpayers of Minnesota who pay your salary?

[Big Dog]

Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life.  It is essential to human life and to a functioning society.   Why is everything about profit to you? 

You have expressed your willingness to enslave your doctor, and take the property of your hospital and pharmacist without recompense, in the name of your "need".

What would you take from me?

[wasp69]

Alright, here is a test. You can prove you are BainsBane/Alexandra Kelly Brown by answering a couple quick questions:

Tell us some things about slavery in Brazil in the 1800s that AKB would know but an impostor would not. And say some things in Portuguese--I assume you know that language if you did Ph.D. work about Brazil.

Also, relate how you got from Texas to Florida to Minnesota.

If you can do these things quickly and intelligently and believably, that would indicate that you are who you claim to be.

I have a better idea, Charles:

[wasp69]

You have expressed your willingness to enslave your doctor, and take the property of your hospital and pharmacist without recompense, in the name of your "need".

What would you take from me?

Your guns so there would be no resistance when the locusts came for the rest.

[Big Dog]

Your guns so there would be no resistance when the locusts came for the rest.

A disarmed peasantry would make that theft much easier.

Wouldn't it, Alex?

[Big Dog]

That right there is the epitome of conservatism. Perfectly stated. Hi-5.

I have my moments.

 

[obumazombie]

You're in trouble now Jugs, you have awakened the "Vesta"

So I guess you are OK with TX trying to enforce health and safety standards in abortion clinics, and concede 20 weeks constitutes viability?

And, finally, I AM PINTOBEAN (or Wasp, or something.  I'll have to get back to you on that) (Never gets back to you)

I AM PINTOBEAN.

[anti-spelunker]

"Healthcare" is goods and services. It is Property. Your natural right to Property extends only as far as your capacity to create, earn, or trade (buy and sell) it. Again, your rights do not create a claim against another person's life, liberty, or property (in this case, a doctor or hospital's goods or services).

Calling it "essential" still doesn't create a right to the goods or services of another person. It doesn't even create an enforceable claim to the goods or  services of another person. You can't take, or even demand it, just because you say you "need" it.

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Healthcare is "property"?  Are human beings also property? 

As for the rest.  No pot roast for you, Big Dog.  Here I thought we were bridging the political divide. 

[obumazombie]

Healthcare is "property"?  Are human beings also property? 

As for the rest.  No pot roast for you, Big Dog.  Here I thought we were bridging the political divide. 

Aka agreeing with a lib.

[anti-spelunker]

Unanswered. Not surprising.

Here's one.  His wife got two abortions.  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/16/tennessee-republican-gave-testimony-detailing-wifes-abortions/

Here is a general article by Gary Bauer about men coercing women into having abortions.  http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/17/gary-bauer-and-daniel-allott-on-forced-abortions/2432769/  Of course his point is to absolve conservatives of responsibility, but nothing he provides says "liberals" are more likely to coerce women into having abortions.  In fact, liberals believe that choice is the woman's. 

[anti-spelunker]

Attention.whore.  

Who is it desperate for attention from men?

[Big Dog]

Healthcare is "property"? 

Yes, healthcare is property.  

Your doctor's skill and experience, and his legal authority to prescribe medications, belong to him, and you have no right to them.

Your local hospital's building, beds, operating rooms, and contents (everything from MRI machines to bedpans) belong to them, and you have no right to them.

Your pharmacist's inventory of medications, which he purchased from a wholesaler or manufacturer, are his, and you have no right to them.

No matter how much you may "need" them.

As for the rest.  No pot roast for you, Big Dog.  Here I thought we were bridging the political divide. 

If you take the time to check out this thread, you will see that is not the case.

[obumazombie]

Who is it desperate for attention form men?

How dare you form men ?

[Dori]

Of course his point is to absolve conservatives of responsibility, but nothing he provides says "liberals" are more likely to coerce women into having abortions.  In fact, liberals believe that choice is the woman's. 

There are some websites out there dedicated to women who are heartbroken over having had abortions.  You really should educate yourself on the life long damage abortion does to women .  Those who bought into the left's propaganda of "it's only tissue" and who felt coerced by the abortion mills like planned parenthood.

[anti-spelunker]

More on the anti-choice teabagger doctor forcing women to have abortions.  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/10/report-anti-choice-republican-forced-mistress-to-have-an-abortion/

[anti-spelunker]

Yes, healthcare is property.  



If you take the time to check out this thread, you will see that is not the case.

Does your concept of liberty include my not having the right to think and vote how I choose? 

[obumazombie]

More on the anti-choice teabagger doctor forcing women to have abortions.  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/10/report-anti-choice-republican-forced-mistress-to-have-an-abortion/

How dare you ?
I would be willing to bet that doctor voted for your messiah twice.
But, even so is the point you're trying to make is that conservatives are hypocritical about abortion that makes abortion morally acceptable ?

[anti-spelunker]

There are some websites out there dedicated to women who are heartbroken over having had abortions.  You really should educate yourself on the life long damage abortion does to women .  Those who bought into the left's propaganda of "it's only tissue" and who felt coerced by the abortion mills like planned parenthood.

So what would you do?  Imprison those women?  Force them to give birth and then starve the children to death because you're too cheap to pay taxes for anything other than murdering people abroad?  Deny women access to abortion so we go back to the days of back alley abortions were women died?  Hey, dead women, all a plus for the GOP.  

[dutch508]

Healthcare is "property"?  Are human beings also property? 

As for the rest.  No pot roast for you, Big Dog.  Here I thought we were bridging the political divide. 

Healthcare is services and physical property in the process of providing care for people. A doctor provides healthcare (a service) using a healthcare facility (property) and medical supplies (property).

I think what you are trying to say is access to healthcare. If it is a basic human right to have access to the above then are you saying that basic human rights should be free to everyone?

If so who does pay for all the services and property used for that access?

[anti-spelunker]

You have expressed your willingness to enslave your doctor, and take the property of your hospital and pharmacist without recompense, in the name of your "need".

What would you take from me?

How is healthcare anymore property than education or the military, both of which are funded by public dollars?  All are services.  Do you want no public schools?  Do you want to go back to the days of private armies that paid themselves through pillaging?  Or is it only the maintenance of human life, and not its killing, that is too insignificant to be a public right? 

[Traveshamockery]

Who is it desperate for attention form men?

It's obvious you are desperate for attention from men.  I've been a part of this group here for five years+.  If I really wanted attention from the men here, I'd put on a bright red sweater and have a picture taken and post it on a public message board.  Oh wait, that's what YOU did.  

I have a husband who pays plenty of attention to me.  I'm comfortable in my own skin that I don't need constant attention.  I'm sure in your warped liberal mind, you think he probably forces himself on me.  

I did show my husband your picture and his only comment was that you were maybe 1/4 of a step up from Nadin.  That's not a compliment, my dear.  

The only attention whore here is you, Alex.