BainsBane Propositioned By A Pimp

[Traveshamockery]

Am I the only one who has reached the point of boredom with our newest chew toy?  My God, she's an insufferable dolt and boring beyond belief.  She's proof that higher education does not equal higher intelligence.  My cat Lucy has more sense than she does. 

 

[Mike220]

Am I the only one who has reached the point of boredom with our newest chew toy?  My God, she's an insufferable dolt and boring beyond belief.  She's proof that higher education does not equal higher intelligence.  My cat Lucy has more sense than she does. 

 

If this really is Bainsbane, I'd be interested in reading her dissertation... see just how far out there it is.

[anti-spelunker]

Again you are absolutely wrong in your analysis. The imposition of faith is not the same as freedom from religion. The state must not establish a religion, but it must allow the free exercise thereof. The free exercise of religion allow it to be a civilizing influence on society and it's government.
You are operating under the misconception that government and religion must be separated.

I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate?  Hmmm.  Let me think.  The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.  It's in the bit just about the gun part. 

[anti-spelunker]

Alex, that is like saying "I hate safety glasses". People who hate insurance don't understand insurance. This is not the thread for a proper discussion of the economy of risk and the value of insurance. If you want to talk about economics, I'm your huckleberry; start an econ thread and I'll talk to you there.

Healthcare is the provision of specific goods and services. Companies make the goods, companies provide the facilities, and people provide the services. They do so voluntarily; both your family doctor and Pfizer Pharmaceuticals choose to engage in those businesses, with the reasonable expectation of profiting.

If healthcare was a "right", then the companies and people who make and provide healthcare would be obligated to provide those goods and services, with no expectation of remuneration (since you claim a "right" to their product). Choice has become compulsion; your doctor is now your slave.

One man's right can't create an obligation on another man. That is the antithesis of "equal rights", something you claim to support.

Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life.  It is essential to human life and to a functioning society.   Why is everything about profit to you? 

[anti-spelunker]

Think about the economy of scale. That is the best reason of all to buy wine in big bottles.

OK, second best. The best reason is having lots of wine.

Wine goes off quickly.  Still, next time I'll buy a full bottle.  I hadn't had to buy any in some time since I had some around.  I actually had a bottle of Nouveau Beaujolais unopened for a year, which is stupid.  It worked well enough for the last pot roast, however. 

[anti-spelunker]

The link is there, the watching world can see if MADem is right or "Doctor" Brown has been slandered.

You'll also noticed I deleted a bunch of my posts in that thread, including the ones where I pointed out he had made up the quote about snowflakes.  Someone  managed to get my self delete notice on the thread hidden by a jury, and since the new MO is to keep hunting for additional alerts to get someone flagged and then put on suspension, a friend suggested I delete everything from that day.  

[USA4ME]

I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate?  Hmmm.  Let me think.  The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.  It's in the bit just about the gun part.

They are separate. Our president is not also the head of the State sanctioned religion, something the founding fathers wished to avoid as was the case in England. That doesn't mean that we as citizens can't petition and have passed legislation that upholds our moral beliefs which are based upon our religious convictions. In fact, not to do so would be immoral.

Healthcare is essential to the maintenance of life.  It is essential to human life and to a functioning society.

But it's not a right. If it is, why hasn't the gov't mandated this right be observed since 1789? Certainly within the first 200 years of the nation, a whole group of legislators would have pointed out that the founders gave us a right that isn't being practiced.

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[anti-spelunker]

Yeah, I'm still going with one of the two who with the winning personalities that resemble his.

[wasp69]

I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate?  Hmmm.  Let me think.  The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.  It's in the bit just about the gun part. 

A damned shame you understand them as well as you do simple economics or gestational development, isn't it?

[anti-spelunker]

let me pull a DUmpmonkie card... "source?"

Fair question, but I don't have time to hunt it up now.  I do recall studies the came out at the end of the George W Bush administration.  I'll try to remember to find some when I have more time. 

[anti-spelunker]

A 14 year old girl can skip school go to the local Planned Parenthood and get an abortion and in most states the parents will never be notified. 

Please explain to me exactly how that somehow more complicated or harder to get than buying a weapon legally. in in the U.S. ?

That depends on the state.  In MN, parental notification is required.  In some states, parental permission is required. 

[wasp69]

You'll also noticed I deleted a bunch of my posts in that thread, including the ones where I pointed out he had made up the quote about snowflakes.  Someone (Hootnholler) managed to get my self delete notice on the thread hidden by a jury, and since the new MO is to keep hunting for additional alerts to get someone flagged and then put on suspension, a friend suggested I delete everything from that day. 

So all we have is the good "Doctor's" unimpeachable character and word, huh?

Heh, heh, heh...

DUmmie Alexandra sure does a lot of self deletion, usually following a bout of hyper emotional internet screaming.  If I were her, I'd work on developing a better disposition so as not to giver her "enemies" an excuse to finish the job she herself started with sock puppet posting.

[anti-spelunker]

No actually it's a really well sourced and researched study.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/12/epa-power-plant-regulations-a-backdoor-energy-tax 

 
  

Yes and under this President median income has dropped sharply and will continue to do so.

I don't suppose you recall the economy collapsing at the end of 2008, a crisis many economics have called the worst since the Great Depression?   

[anti-spelunker]

You lost the sliver of it that you had when you claimed that there are more restrictions on abortion than guns.



CMD

Not part of the reality-based community, are you?

[anti-spelunker]

Heh...  I thought one could expect better from a member of $kinner's Einsatzgruppen.

You should try taking lessons from Crazy Aunt Judy on how to sleuth.  You could upgrade from completely incompetent to mediocre.

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. 

[txradioguy]

I wonder where I got the idea that government and religion must be separate?  Hmmm.  Let me think.  The same place you got the idea that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.  It's in the bit just about the gun part. 

Right place...but you're interpretation of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" is severely in error.

[anti-spelunker]

A damned shame you understand them as well as you do simple economics or gestational development, isn't it?

What counts is how SCOTUS interprets them.  That you think it makes it illegal to say Happy Holidays or some such nonsense is irrelevant.

[anti-spelunker]

Am I the only one who has reached the point of boredom with our newest chew toy?  My God, she's an insufferable dolt and boring beyond belief.  She's proof that higher education does not equal higher intelligence.  My cat Lucy has more sense than she does. 

 

And yesterday I was too smart to be BainsBane.  I can't wait to be dazzled by your intelligence. 

[txradioguy]

 

Translation:  Crap I can't debate the facts so I'll deflect.

  

I don't suppose you recall the economy collapsing at the end of 2008, a crisis many economics have called the worst since the Great Depression?   

Who controlled both Houses of Congress then?  Who rammed through Dodd-Frank?  Refused to clean up the Freddie/Fannie mess even though they were warned it was about to collapse?

That "worst economy since the Great Depression" meme is old and it's crap.  You Liberals were saying that when we had 4.7 percent unemployment and the economy was actually moving somewhere other than down.

44 has been in office for 5 years...the Dems have controlled all or part of Congress for the last seven.  It's time you folks act like adults and stop pointing fingers at other people for your own failures.

[anti-spelunker]

If this really is Bainsbane, I'd be interested in reading her dissertation... see just how far out there it is.

It's available through University Microfilms, just like every other dissertation written in the US.  You can even get them online now.  

[txradioguy]

That depends on the state.  In MN, parental notification is required.  In some states, parental permission is required. 

That doesn't answer the question I asked you.


Here let me refresh your memory:

Please explain to me exactly how that it's somehow more complicated or harder to get than buying a weapon legally. in in the U.S. ?

Answer the question.

[anti-spelunker]

So all we have is the good "Doctor's" unimpeachable character and word, huh?

Heh, heh, heh...

DUmmie Alexandra sure does a lot of self deletion, usually following a bout of hyper emotional internet screaming.  If I were her, I'd work on developing a better disposition so as not to giver her "enemies" an excuse to finish the job she herself started with sock puppet posting.

Actually I do not self delete a lot.  The new rules, however, are changing that.  

[anti-spelunker]

That doesn't answer the question I asked you.


Here let me refresh your memory:

Answer the question.

I have covered this already.  There is virtually no county in the US where you can't buy a gun.  All you need is a driver's license and to not be a felon.  In Texas, one now has to travel hundreds of miles to get an abortion.  There are very few abortion providers in the red states.  Women even have to submit to state mandated rape (transvaginal ultrasound) in some places. 

Throughout the past couple of years there have been systematic erosion of abortion rights at the state level.  I showed a chart and article from the Washington post that documented as much.  Google it yourself.

[Traveshamockery]

And yesterday I was too smart to be BainsBane.  I can't wait to be dazzled by your intelligence.  

My intelligence is obvious.  I'm a conservative and you're a liberal.  Liberals are dumb asses, Alex.

[anti-spelunker]

Wasp,  I did not suggest you were a DUer moling here, but rather than you have a mole on DU.