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Title: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 31, 2008, 10:22:13 PM
LA won tonight, and the mets won.

THIS is baseball, folks!

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 01, 2008, 04:47:46 AM
It's gonna be a fun month!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: jendf on September 01, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
I'm heading to Chase today with my sister, nephews, and mom to watch the D-backs play the Cardinals. Should be a nice way to spend Labor Day!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: thundley4 on September 01, 2008, 12:54:09 PM
Go DBacks.  Even though I think the Cards are done for the year, being a lifelong Cubs fan, I still like to see them lose.  In the meantime, the Cubs are looking to put the hurt to the Mets. (I'm delusional, so what?)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 01, 2008, 04:02:24 PM
Go DBacks.  Even though I think the Cards are done for the year, being a lifelong Cubs fan, I still like to see them lose.  In the meantime, the Cubs are looking to put the hurt to the Mets. (I'm delusional, so what?)

You are delusional.  The Cubs would play the D'Bags D'Backs in the first round.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: thundley4 on September 01, 2008, 04:31:35 PM
Oops. Was looking at the wrong thing when I typed.  I was happy the Mets beat the Brewers today.   :innocent:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2008, 04:46:52 PM

LA won tonight, and the mets won.

THIS is baseball, folks!



LAD record of 67-70 wouldn't even be in contention in any other division (and is. of course, not even in eyeshot of LAAA). 

The second best record in the wost division in the league doesn't mean a good final run.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 04:54:38 PM

LA won tonight, and the mets won.

THIS is baseball, folks!



LAD record of 67-70 wouldn't even be in contention in any other division (and is. of course, not even in eyeshot of LAAA). 

The second best record in the wost division in the league doesn't mean a good final run.


blah, blah, blah. :whatever:  3.5 games = "a close race".  deal with it. 

talk to me later in september about their record.  and with interleague play and the unbalanced schedule, it's impossible to make direct comparisons between teams within the NL.  in fact, the unbalanced schedule and interleague play make even having a wild card team just bizarre.

and screw the damn "identity crisis angels of anahole". 

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2008, 04:59:14 PM

LA won tonight, and the mets won.

THIS is baseball, folks!



LAD record of 67-70 wouldn't even be in contention in any other division (and is. of course, not even in eyeshot of LAAA). 

The second best record in the wost division in the league doesn't mean a good final run.


blah, blah, blah. :whatever:  3.5 games = "a close race".  deal with it. 

talk to me later in september about their record.  and with interleague play and the unbalanced schedule, it's impossible to make direct comparisons between teams within the NL.  in fact, the unbalanced schedule and interleague play make even having a wild card team just bizarre.

and screw the damn "identity crisis angels of anahole". 



Hey, I'll be happy if the Dodgers win -- I have been a fan, even back when they were a good team.  At this point, I would take it they won two post-season games (you have to walk before you run).

The LAA have been contenders and winners quite a bit more than the LAD.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 05:05:41 PM

LA won tonight, and the mets won.

THIS is baseball, folks!



LAD record of 67-70 wouldn't even be in contention in any other division (and is. of course, not even in eyeshot of LAAA). 

The second best record in the wost division in the league doesn't mean a good final run.


blah, blah, blah. :whatever:  3.5 games = "a close race".  deal with it. 

talk to me later in september about their record.  and with interleague play and the unbalanced schedule, it's impossible to make direct comparisons between teams within the NL.  in fact, the unbalanced schedule and interleague play make even having a wild card team just bizarre.

and screw the damn "identity crisis angels of anahole". 



Hey, I'll be happy if the Dodgers win -- I have been a fan, even back when they were a good team.  At this point, I would take it they won two post-season games (you have to walk before you run).

The LAA have been contenders and winners quite a bit more than the LAD.

Just sayin'


the angles will always be second in socal.  MLB attendance (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: jendf on September 01, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
Just got back from the D-backs game. So much fun. Tons of homeruns (8--4 from each team). Drew got a cycle and became the first to do so in Chase Field.

We got a win and that's what we needed. Woot!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 07:03:41 PM
Just got back from the D-backs game. So much fun. Tons of homeruns (8--4 from each team). Drew got a cycle and became the first to do so in Chase Field.

We got a win and that's what we needed. Woot!

drew hit for the cycle?  huh.  I'll be.  I am surprised that this is the first one at chase field.  with the gaping alleys in that place, triples (the hard to get leg of the cycle) should be a little easier to get . . . but I suppose home runs would be a bit harder.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2008, 07:05:51 PM

the angles will always be second in socal.  MLB attendance (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance)

Proving that Dodgers fans are the stupidest people in all of MLB.  Why you would encourage/reward the Boston Parking Lot Attendant for putting the worst product in MLB on the field is beyond me.  Oh, enjoy your upcoming increase in ticket prices to pay for Jones and Hernandez.

I'll always love the Dodgers, but I won't like them until they have management that gives a shit about them.  Paying for a Dodger ticket is like sitting the election out.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 07:13:14 PM

LA won tonight, and the mets won.

THIS is baseball, folks!



LAD record of 67-70 wouldn't even be in contention in any other division (and is. of course, not even in eyeshot of LAAA). 

The second best record in the wost division in the league doesn't mean a good final run.


blah, blah, blah. :whatever:  3.5 games = "a close race".  deal with it. 

talk to me later in september about their record.  and with interleague play and the unbalanced schedule, it's impossible to make direct comparisons between teams within the NL.  in fact, the unbalanced schedule and interleague play make even having a wild card team just bizarre.

and screw the damn "identity crisis angels of anahole". 



Hey, I'll be happy if the Dodgers win -- I have been a fan, even back when they were a good team.  At this point, I would take it they won two post-season games (you have to walk before you run).

The LAA have been contenders and winners quite a bit more than the LAD.

Just sayin'


the angles will always be second in socal.  MLB attendance (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance)

Proving that Dodgers fans are the stupidest people in all of MLB.  Why you would encourage the Boston Parking Lot Attendant for putting the worst product in MLB on the field is beyond me.


it's a thousand wonders that you don't have a permanently hyperextended elbow from constantly patting yourself on the back. :-)

"worst product in MLB" is a tiny bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?  and a bad day at the ballpark is still a damn good day . . . maybe dodger fans are just loyal . . . in '92, they lost 100 games, and bad as they were, they still drew 3,000,000 fans.  how can you fault people for watching baseball games?  that's just unamerican  :tongue:

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2008, 07:25:15 PM
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it's a thousand wonders that you don't have a permanently hyperextended elbow from constantly patting yourself on the back.
Why?  I didn't do anything.

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"worst product in MLB" is a tiny bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? 
2nd or 3rd highest team salary, less than .500 -- again.  I am willing to wager dollar for dollar it is far and away the worst product in the MLB.

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and a bad day at the ballpark is still a damn good day . . . maybe dodger fans are just loyal . . . in '92, they lost 100 games, and bad as they were, they still drew 3,000,000 fans.  how can you fault people for watching baseball games?  that's just unamerican
So it isn't about the Dodgers, it is about lining the pockets of the parking lot attendant a day at the park.  If people really cared about the Dodgers, they would withhold their hard-earned dollars and gas to get to Chavez Ravine until a decent team is assembled.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
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it's a thousand wonders that you don't have a permanently hyperextended elbow from constantly patting yourself on the back.
Why?  I didn't do anything.

Quote
"worst product in MLB" is a tiny bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? 
2nd or 3rd highest team salary, less than .500 -- again.  I am willing to wager dollar for dollar it is far and away the worst product in the MLB.

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and a bad day at the ballpark is still a damn good day . . . maybe dodger fans are just loyal . . . in '92, they lost 100 games, and bad as they were, they still drew 3,000,000 fans.  how can you fault people for watching baseball games?  that's just unamerican
So it isn't about the Dodgers, it is about lining the pockets of the parking lot attendant a day at the park.  If people really cared about the Dodgers, they would withhold their hard-earned dollars and gas to get to Chavez Ravine until a decent team is assembled.


I don't care how much they spend, or how much they suck, and I don't really care how much tickets cost.  I just care what time the first pitch is. :-)  it was 20 minutes ago, by the way.

and it's also not lost on me that just about none of the moves that ned colletti has made have actually worked . . .  jones, schmidt, pierre, and you could probably put furcal on that list.   but who is "hernandez"? :-)   I'm not sure how you can blame mqquart for for giving colletti all the rope he needed to hang himself . . .



Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
Just got back from the D-backs game. So much fun. Tons of homeruns (8--4 from each team). Drew got a cycle and became the first to do so in Chase Field.

We got a win and that's what we needed. Woot!

there were two players that hit for the cycle today.  adrian beltre (yes, formerly a dodger) just hit for the cycle for the mariners against texas.




Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2008, 09:49:15 PM
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it's a thousand wonders that you don't have a permanently hyperextended elbow from constantly patting yourself on the back.
Why?  I didn't do anything.

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"worst product in MLB" is a tiny bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? 
2nd or 3rd highest team salary, less than .500 -- again.  I am willing to wager dollar for dollar it is far and away the worst product in the MLB.

Quote
and a bad day at the ballpark is still a damn good day . . . maybe dodger fans are just loyal . . . in '92, they lost 100 games, and bad as they were, they still drew 3,000,000 fans.  how can you fault people for watching baseball games?  that's just unamerican
So it isn't about the Dodgers, it is about lining the pockets of the parking lot attendant a day at the park.  If people really cared about the Dodgers, they would withhold their hard-earned dollars and gas to get to Chavez Ravine until a decent team is assembled.


I don't care how much they spend, or how much they suck, and I don't really care how much tickets cost.  I just care what time the first pitch is. :-)  it was 20 minutes ago, by the way.

and it's also not lost on me that just about none of the moves that ned colletti has made have actually worked . . .  jones, schmidt, pierre, and you could probably put furcal on that list.   but who is "hernandez"? :-)   I'm not sure how you can blame mqquart for for giving colletti all the rope he needed to hang himself . . .





I think I mean Ramirez.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: morningAngel on September 01, 2008, 09:55:22 PM
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Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 10:03:25 PM

the angles will always be second in socal.  MLB attendance (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance)

Proving that Dodgers fans are the stupidest people in all of MLB.  Why you would encourage/reward the Boston Parking Lot Attendant for putting the worst product in MLB on the field is beyond me.  Oh, enjoy your upcoming increase in ticket prices to pay for Jones and Hernandez.

I'll always love the Dodgers, but I won't like them until they have management that gives a shit about them.  Paying for a Dodger ticket is like sitting the election out.



you mean manny ramirez, don't you?

I don't know that they will even try.  from what I hear, he wants a 5 year/$20M+ per yr contract, and his agent is the evil dr. scott bora$$.

off the top of my head, contracts expiring this year are schmidt, furcal, kent (who is probably done for the year after a knee injury over the weekend), garciapara, penny, saito, lowe . . . that's about $55 million bucks.  but that's also a lot of holes to fill with a salary budget bloated by the dead weight of the pierre and jones contracts.  well, not THAT many holes, or not holes that don't already exist anyway, I guess, considering that schmidt has spent his 3 years with the dodgers on the DL, furcal played a very hot april, and promptly broke.  penny has been hurt this year . . . . and I already mentioned kent.



Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 10:04:39 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 10:08:28 PM
LA beat the padres tonight to remain 2.5 behind Az.  that's 3 wins in a row. if they do this again tomorrow night, that would be a winning streak :hyper: :-)

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: morningAngel on September 01, 2008, 10:21:24 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 01, 2008, 10:23:33 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: morningAngel on September 01, 2008, 10:26:12 PM
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I could smell it a mile away!
Can't believe you were so brazen

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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 02, 2008, 11:42:22 AM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 02, 2008, 11:48:06 AM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:

hell, yes!  you can't run the risk of leaving any off-season trades undiscussed.  that would be sacrilege. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 02, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:

hell, yes!  you can't run the risk of leaving any off-season trades undiscussed.  that would be sacrilege. :-)

And, the free-agent signing period begins 15 days after the end of the World Series. :cheersmate:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: morningAngel on September 02, 2008, 08:20:12 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
HA!  I refuse to accept defeat, the day I and the 38C girls come in second place to a bunch of men running around in tight pants playing kids games is the day I slink quietly into a corner..and you know that ain't happening! :hammer:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 02, 2008, 08:30:38 PM
LA beat the padres tonight to remain 2.5 behind Az.  that's 3 wins in a row. if they do this again tomorrow night, that would be a winning streak freaking miracle :hyper: :-)



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Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 02, 2008, 09:09:16 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
HA!  I refuse to accept defeat, the day I and the 38C girls come in second place to a bunch of men running around in tight pants playing kids games is the day I slink quietly into a corner..and you know that ain't happening! :hammer:


pssst. they got 38C girls at the ballpark.  wearin' bikini tops a lot of the time.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: morningAngel on September 02, 2008, 09:48:41 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
HA!  I refuse to accept defeat, the day I and the 38C girls come in second place to a bunch of men running around in tight pants playing kids games is the day I slink quietly into a corner..and you know that ain't happening! :hammer:


pssst. they got 38C girls at the ballpark.  wearin' bikini tops a lot of the time.
yeah, but I'm the only one with a set of those that will give you the time of the day  :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 02, 2008, 10:24:47 PM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
HA!  I refuse to accept defeat, the day I and the 38C girls come in second place to a bunch of men running around in tight pants playing kids games is the day I slink quietly into a corner..and you know that ain't happening! :hammer:


pssst. they got 38C girls at the ballpark.  wearin' bikini tops a lot of the time.
yeah, but I'm the only one with a set of those that will give you the time of the day  :tongue:

you completely sure about that? :uhsure: :whatever: :-) :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 02, 2008, 10:31:23 PM

berroa got a ground ball stuck in his shirt at shirt tonight. :whatever:  that's not the way you want to make the highlight reel;  as a blooper.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Odin's Hand on September 02, 2008, 10:38:05 PM
I bet the Rangers game didn't have 4,000+ in attendance tonight. It was a damn ghost-town out there.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 02, 2008, 10:50:14 PM
the cubs and the stros are tied in the 10th.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 02, 2008, 10:51:56 PM
I bet the Rangers game didn't have 4,000+ in attendance tonight. It was a damn ghost-town out there.

the box score says 14K. but I think they count tickets sold, including no shows.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: morningAngel on September 03, 2008, 12:08:37 AM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
HA!  I refuse to accept defeat, the day I and the 38C girls come in second place to a bunch of men running around in tight pants playing kids games is the day I slink quietly into a corner..and you know that ain't happening! :hammer:


pssst. they got 38C girls at the ballpark.  wearin' bikini tops a lot of the time.
yeah, but I'm the only one with a set of those that will give you the time of the day  :tongue:

you completely sure about that? :uhsure: :whatever: :-) :tongue:
absolutely   :-*
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west are gioing to be a RACE!
Post by: Chris_ on September 03, 2008, 12:42:03 AM
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too late.  :-) I am going to have a running baseball thread, mA.  you can't stop me. :uhsure:
now you are hiding them from me? did you think I wouldn't find out?
all the signs were there:
coming home late
not wanting to spend time with me
not really listening to my needs, my wants...
staying up all night
"nothing" when I asked what you were doing...
 :bawl:

the pine rosin on my collar was the final straw, wasn't it? :(

mA, you have to resign yourself to certain things.  One of them is the fact that Wretch and I are baseball fans, and we'll be posting on baseball stuff even in the offseason. :tongue:
HA!  I refuse to accept defeat, the day I and the 38C girls come in second place to a bunch of men running around in tight pants playing kids games is the day I slink quietly into a corner..and you know that ain't happening! :hammer:


pssst. they got 38C girls at the ballpark.  wearin' bikini tops a lot of the time.
yeah, but I'm the only one with a set of those that will give you the time of the day  :tongue:

you completely sure about that? :uhsure: :whatever: :-) :tongue:
absolutely   :-*

It's ****in 1:42 AM EDT.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 03, 2008, 03:11:28 AM
Even though Niese didn't last half as long as I predicted, and gave up more than double the runs, the Mets won in 10 innings.  The bullpen has suddenly gone effective.  Not that that's a bad thing, mind you; it's just one of these unpredictable things.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 03, 2008, 07:44:23 AM

LA put a snowman on the board last night, and then managed to avoid another late inning bullpen
meltdown to win 8-4.  3 HRs last night.  and with Az losing, the NL west race tightened to a game
and a half.

the dodgers sported an infield of blake dewitt and angel berroa last night, which doesn't bode well
for the future . . . even though dewitt did homer in the fourth.  andre either was a double short of
the cycle.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 03, 2008, 08:00:38 AM
the cubs and the stros are tied in the 10th.

The Cubs are trying to let the Brewers gain some ground to make the Central more interesting, but the Brewcrew jsut can't seem to get it done.  :rotf:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 03, 2008, 04:32:57 PM
In the matinee in Miller Park today, Ryan Church hit a grand slam in the first inning--coupled with a Carlos Delgado RBI single, and a Brian Schneider solo shot, also in the first inning.  Ollie Perez allowed two runs over 6 2/3rds innings, then the bullpen came in and shut things down.  The Amazins' added two more runs in the top of the eighth, and another in the top of the ninth.  Mets win 9-2, and sweep the Brewers.  The Mets were 6-2 on this road trip, and have one more road trip--to Washington and Atlanta.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 03, 2008, 06:15:52 PM
If the Brewers keep losing like that, they'll let Cubs coast into the playoffs.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Odin's Hand on September 03, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
If the Brewers keep losing like that, they'll let Cubs coast into the playoffs.

and Zambrano will be rested, providing that his rotator cuff isn't torn and merely strained, until the playoffs.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 04, 2008, 08:16:06 AM
They are even going to rest Harden and let him basically skip a start.  Fortunately the Cubs have some qualified starters in the pen.  Not great starters, but good enough, if the offense learns to hit again.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 05, 2008, 07:33:39 AM
Because of the RNC I didn't even notice the past two days of baseball, but my Phils just dropped a series to WASHINGTON.  And we open against New York tonight.

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Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 06, 2008, 06:09:36 AM
Brett Myers pitched a good game, and Mike Pelfrey made a couple of mistakes.  Phillthies win the first round, 3-zip.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 06, 2008, 06:11:20 PM

LA scored 7 runs against Az for the second game in a row, and take a microscopic .5 game lead
in the NL west. 

I told you this thing was going to be good. :-) and I also said that if we could get to september
without Az putting the dodgers away, that I liked our chances.  well, we're there. 

watch them make a liar out of me.  they do it every year. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 06, 2008, 06:48:39 PM
That was abyssmal. Webb's and Cruz's crappy pitchy outings. Upton's missed catch in the outfield. Argh. We can't blame this on anyone else but ourselves. Our bullpen and offense are on life support. What happened? 

It's just a 1 1/2 game lead by the Dodgers in the division but based on today's D-backs performance, I suddenly have this urge to go cry in the corner.  :bawl:

I think the organization cursed it. Yeah, that's it.  :evillaugh: They started taking entries for the postseason tickets lottery. I signed up the first day. I blew it!  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 06, 2008, 06:52:57 PM
That was abyssmal. Webb's and Cruz's crappy pitchy outings. Upton's missed catch in the outfield. Argh. We can't blame this on anyone else but ourselves. Our bullpen and offense are on life support. What happened? 

It's just a 1 1/2 game lead by the Dodgers in the division but based on today's D-backs performance, I suddenly have this urge to go cry in the corner.  :bawl:

I think the organization cursed it. Yeah, that's it.  :evillaugh: They started taking entries for the postseason tickets lottery. I signed up the first day. I blew it!  :-)

it's just a .5 game lead, I believe.  don't despair, my dear.  there is at least one more 5+ game losing streak in this year's dodgers, I feel
it in my bones.

I knew it would come down to september, and I even said it would come down to the last week.  Az has a trip to StL left, if I recall.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 07, 2008, 05:59:50 AM
That was abyssmal. Webb's and Cruz's crappy pitchy outings. Upton's missed catch in the outfield. Argh. We can't blame this on anyone else but ourselves. Our bullpen and offense are on life support. What happened? 

It's just a 1 1/2 game lead by the Dodgers in the division but based on today's D-backs performance, I suddenly have this urge to go cry in the corner.  :bawl:

I think the organization cursed it. Yeah, that's it.  :evillaugh: They started taking entries for the postseason tickets lottery. I signed up the first day. I blew it!  :-)

it's just a .5 game lead, I believe.  don't despair, my dear.  there is at least one more 5+ game losing streak in this year's dodgers, I feel
it in my bones.

I knew it would come down to september, and I even said it would come down to the last week.  Az has a trip to StL left, if I recall.

Funny--I said the same thing about the NL East to Red.  And it will come down to the last week.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 07, 2008, 09:44:49 PM
:badmood: :maddernhell:

Being a Phillie fan is a lot like being a coke fiend.  You know you're wasting your life, but you just... can't... stop!   :banghead: :bawl:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 08, 2008, 05:21:22 AM
:badmood: :maddernhell:

Being a Phillie fan is a lot like being a coke fiend.  You know you're wasting your life, but you just... can't... stop!   :banghead: :bawl:

Games like last night are why we went out and spent $137.5 million.  Red, one more thing--from the post immediately above yours:

Quote from: BlueStateSaint
Funny--I said the same thing about the NL East to Red.  And it will come down to the last week.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 08, 2008, 07:01:39 AM
:badmood: :maddernhell:

Being a Phillie fan is a lot like being a coke fiend.  You know you're wasting your life, but you just... can't... stop!   :banghead: :bawl:

Games like last night are why we went out and spent $137.5 million.  Red, one more thing--from the post immediately above yours:

Quote from: BlueStateSaint
Funny--I said the same thing about the NL East to Red.  And it will come down to the last week.

:cheersmate:  How is it I get more encouragement from a Mets fan on this board then my own kind on Philly.com?

Wait... don't answer that :lalala:

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 10, 2008, 12:49:53 AM

LA looked like they were about to drop two in a row to the last place padres, but rallied for
2 runs in the 8th and 3 more in the 9th to beat SD 6-2.  andre ethier was 2-4 with 4 RBIs --
he was responsible for all 5 runs scored in the last two innings -- and scored what was then
the go ahead run in the 8th to put the dodgers up 3-2.  he followed that with a 3 run double
in the ninth.

Az lose a tough one in the bottom of the ninth against SF, and LA takes a very shaky 2.5
game lead in the west.

it's getting hard to watch. :-)




Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 10, 2008, 04:36:11 AM
Carlos Delgado has very near 1600 feet-worth of HRs in his last two games (four HRs in those two games).  The first one he hit, last night, was 20 feet up on the part of the scoreboard closest to center field--it was conservatively estimated to be 440 feet.  That one put the Mets up 5-2.  But, after Ollie Perez allowed the Nats to go up 7-5, the Mets tied it at 7, then allowed the Nats one more run . . . at which point I went to bed, knowing that the Mets would come back.  Cur the bottom of the sixth.  Carlos Beltran hit a 2-run shot in the bottom of the sixth, making it 9-8, and two pitches later, Delgado hit one to the back of the Mets' bullpen.  The chants of "MVP!  MVP!  MVP!" are getting louder as the days wear on . . . Mets win 10-8, and Florida held up their end by beating the Phillthies, by the same score.  Mets back up by 2 1/2.

If I were a pitcher facing Delgado now, I'd walk him, even if the bases were loaded.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 10, 2008, 07:11:04 AM
The Phils sure know how to throw their seasons away with style, huh.  Kendrick's given up something in the neighborhood of fifteen hundred runs in his last 3 starts... I don't know why Happ isn't making his starts for him.  It'd would've have been nice to not be down 7-1 in the top of the second.  It was nicer to see us come ALLLLLLLLLLLL the way back from 9-1, to lose 10-8.  With two men on base in both the 6th, 7th, and 8th. 

Bluestate, if Kendrick were facing Delgado now, I wouldn't trust him to hit his spot on the IW.  I'd have to bring in Durbin to do it.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 10, 2008, 06:07:17 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 10, 2008, 06:14:42 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Follow uh-bam-uh.  You might see an unused throne/crown combination off to the side.  Ignore it.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 10, 2008, 08:26:16 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

I saw that your guys lost in the ninth again this afternoon.  but this isn't over, jen.  these teams seem to like each other too much to let much space get between them in the standings. :wink:


Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 10, 2008, 09:44:40 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

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I feel your pain.  In fact, it's a painful infection.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 12:34:14 AM

manny ramirez was 2-5 with 2 HRs and 4 RBI.  ramirez was OPSing 1.235  (395/.491/.744)  as a dodger before tonight.
james loney also homered.  brad penny, who just came off the DL, was brought in to start the 7th and was unable to get an
out.  corey wade managed to get out of a bases loaded no out jam with only a run scoring.

manny iced a close game with a 2 run HR in the ninth.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 11, 2008, 12:39:14 AM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 11, 2008, 11:27:33 AM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 11, 2008, 05:41:14 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 11, 2008, 05:59:23 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



True, true.  But the game today isn't like the old days.  New teams do well, then fade.

Are you hoping for a freeway series?  The Angels clinched yesterday...
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: NHSparky on September 11, 2008, 06:35:42 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


You want reality, WE?  When was the last title you guys won?  When did the D-Backs win the Series?  Where were you last year when the D-Backs were in the NLCS?

Physician, heal thyself. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 07:31:53 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


You want reality, WE?  When was the last title you guys won?  When did the D-Backs win the Series?  Where were you last year when the D-Backs were in the NLCS?

Physician, heal thyself. 

I think that perhaps you may want to go back and look more carefully at who said what.  I have generally been very respectful of Az.  They beat us flat last season.

and it was the rockies that won the NLCS, by the way.  I assume you meant the NL west, which Az indeed won.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 07:33:26 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

no predictions out of me.  it would offend the baseball gods.  hell, I am almost afraid to post at all during a winning streak. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 11, 2008, 07:39:06 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

no predictions out of me.  it would offend the baseball gods.  hell, I am almost afraid to post at all during a winning streak. :-)

It's been a most peculiar phenomenon... every time I bitch out the Phillies and write the campaign off, they go on a winning streak.  We need a streak now but I can't muster up another melt-down.   :(
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 07:42:06 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

no predictions out of me.  it would offend the baseball gods.  hell, I am almost afraid to post at all during a winning streak. :-)

It's been a most peculiar phenomenon... every time I bitch out the Phillies and write the campaign off, they go on a winning streak.  We need a streak now but I can't muster up another melt-down.   :(

eric karros, the dodger first baseman 5 or so years ago, was a demonstrably better hitter when I screamed "you are a worthless piece of sheeeeeitt, eric karros!!" at my TV . . . from 1700 miles away . . .  it's science. :-)

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 11, 2008, 07:46:54 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

no predictions out of me.  it would offend the baseball gods.  hell, I am almost afraid to post at all during a winning streak. :-)

It's been a most peculiar phenomenon... every time I bitch out the Phillies and write the campaign off, they go on a winning streak.  We need a streak now but I can't muster up another melt-down.   :(

eric karros, the dodger first baseman 5 or so years ago, was a demonstrably better hitter when I screamed "you are a worthless piece of sheeeeeitt, eric karros!!" at my TV . . . from 1700 miles away . . .  it's science. :-)



:cheersmate: :-)  Howard and Burrell are pretty good at that, too. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 11, 2008, 07:54:34 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

no predictions out of me.  it would offend the baseball gods.  hell, I am almost afraid to post at all during a winning streak. :-)

I told you that when the D-backs organization started taking entries for the ticket lottery for postseason tickets, that we would be toast. They totally jinxed it. Those jackasses.

Our shitacular bullpen and non-existent offense have absolutely nothing to do with it. I swear. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 07:57:28 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


 :bird:

I don't think the franchise is doing too shabby, considering the fact that they won the world series in their fourth year of existence.



Gotta agree with you, Wretch.  Jen, WE said something about this going to the last week.  I've said the same thing to Red, about the NL East.  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that both the NL West winner and the Mets (hey, even though I said the NL East would go to the last week, I did say that the Mets will win the division) will go to the NLCS.  Mets go to the WS, though . . . and pull off an upset.  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

no predictions out of me.  it would offend the baseball gods.  hell, I am almost afraid to post at all during a winning streak. :-)

I told you that when the D-backs organization started taking entries for the ticket lottery for postseason tickets, that we would be toast. They totally jinxed it. Those jackasses.

Our shitacular bullpen and non-existent offense have absolutely nothing to do with it. I swear. :-)

I think everyone with a shot at the playoffs put them on sale at about the same time.  you just about have to do that early, just because of the logistics of the thing.

and I told you, this thing isn't over.  hell, colorado could turn into the tasmanian rockies again, and come kick both of our teams asses. :-)  it's baseball.  you can't believe it until it is over.

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Post by: NHSparky on September 11, 2008, 08:20:33 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


You want reality, WE?  When was the last title you guys won?  When did the D-Backs win the Series?  Where were you last year when the D-Backs were in the NLCS?

Physician, heal thyself. 

I think that perhaps you may want to go back and look more carefully at who said what.  I have generally been very respectful of Az.  They beat us flat last season.

and it was the rockies that won the NLCS, by the way.  I assume you meant the NL west, which Az indeed won.



Uh, yes, I'm well aware of that.  The point being they had to win MORE THAN ONE POSTSEASON GAME IN 20 YEARS to get there.  Three, to be precise.  And although they were beaten by the Rox, the fact remains that just in one postseason, they've tripled the number of postseason wins you've managed over the past two decades.  And don't think for a second Manny or anyone else is going to help you increase that total this year.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 11, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
That's it. I give up. Anyone recommend a nice cliff I can jump off of? :banghead:

Don't completely freak out.  I mean, an MLB team in AZ is more a concept than an actual reality.

Just enjoy having Baseball in your area and consider any "run" as gravy.


You want reality, WE?  When was the last title you guys won?  When did the D-Backs win the Series?  Where were you last year when the D-Backs were in the NLCS?

Physician, heal thyself. 

I think that perhaps you may want to go back and look more carefully at who said what.  I have generally been very respectful of Az.  They beat us flat last season.

and it was the rockies that won the NLCS, by the way.  I assume you meant the NL west, which Az indeed won.



Uh, yes, I'm well aware of that.  The point being they had to win MORE THAN ONE POSTSEASON GAME IN 20 YEARS to get there.  Three, to be precise.  And although they were beaten by the Rox, the fact remains that just in one postseason, they've tripled the number of postseason wins you've managed over the past two decades.  And don't think for a second Manny or anyone else is going to help you increase that total this year.

did you actually go back and look at who made the comment that you jumped?  it wasn't me.  I'm perfectly willing to have this fight if you really want to, but you're attacking an argument that I just didn't make.

all I did was point out that you were wrong about Az winning the NLCS.  the rockies won the NLCS.  Az won the NL west.

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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 12, 2008, 09:37:52 AM

LA starts a three game set at the rox tonight.  colorado is where the dodgers' playoff hopes
went to die last season, so my normal pessimism that marks the beginning of a series at colorado
(I hate that ballpark) is tainted this weekend by actual empirical evidence of september disasters.

I especially hate the pitching matchup on sunday;  maddux and cook.

after that, it's off to pittsburgh . . .
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Post by: jendf on September 12, 2008, 11:02:26 AM
Our latest acquisition, Adam Dunn, gets to say hi to his old teammates as we play the Reds for three games followed by a 3-game series with the Giants who beat us not once, but twice, in the 9th inning with 2 outs last week. It should be an interesting week.  :whatever:
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 12, 2008, 11:27:12 AM
Our latest acquisition, Adam Dunn, gets to say hi to his old teammates as we play the Reds for three games followed by a 3-game series with the Giants who beat us not once, but twice, in the 9th inning with 2 outs last week. It should be an interesting week.  :whatever:

I saw it.  that even made me wince.  :(
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 13, 2008, 10:00:21 AM
Aaaaah . . . Kevin Kernan's column in today's New York Post is great.

Quote
METS CAN THANK YANKS FOR BELTRAN, SANTANA

by Kevin Kernan

Posted: 3:46 am
September 13, 2008

THIS could have been so different.

Johan SantanaJohan Santana  will start today in the first game of the MetsNew York Mets ' doubleheader against the Braves at Shea Stadium, and Carlos BeltranCarlos Beltran  will be in his usual spot, center field.

They both could have been in the Yankees lineup over in The Bronx. The Yankees could have had both superstars. What a difference that would have made for both the Mets and Yankees.

Braves manager Bobby Cox said one of the best aspects of Shea is the visiting dugout.

"You can actually see the game," he said last night, hours before the rainout.

The rest is at . . .

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09132008/sports/mets/mets_can_thank_yanks_for_beltran___santa_128900.htm

Again, it's amazing what spending a quarter of a billion (the combined salaries of Beltran and Santana, give-or-take) will do . . .  :evillaugh:
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 14, 2008, 05:10:37 AM
Yesterday was a true doubleheader for the Braves and the Mets.  Big thing--the Braves kept the Mets from breaking the game open in the bottom of the sixth.  In the top of the eighth, the Braves scored three runs, and shut the Mets down.  Thing is, Santana got charged with two of those runs, so he didn't get the loss (3-2 Braves).  In the nightcap, Jon Niese, in his second MLB start, went eight innings of shutout ball, got his first MLB hit, and got run support early from the Mets (David Wright and Jose Reyes both hit HRs).  Mets win, 5-0, so they lose 1/2 game to the Phillthies.

The line on Niese (aka "The Future") went:  8 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 7 K.  Jose Reyes said that Niese has the best curveball from a lefthander that he's ever seen, and considering the fact that Reyes has seen Barry Zito's curve, that's pretty high praise.  Then again, they are teammates.
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Post by: jendf on September 14, 2008, 06:44:21 PM
Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

I've resorted to mere grunts now at this point.
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Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2008, 09:27:25 PM
Zambrano blows it by Erstad, strike 3. He gets his no-hitter.
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Post by: thundley4 on September 14, 2008, 09:32:40 PM
Thanks to ESPN, the game was blacked out for many people. Fortunately, someone was running a pirate broadcast, so I was able to see the game.  The Astros are not  happy about playing at Wrigley Field North.  :lmao:
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Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2008, 09:50:57 PM
Thanks to ESPN, the game was blacked out for many people. Fortunately, someone was running a pirate broadcast, so I was able to see the game.  The Astros are not  happy about playing at Wrigley Field North.  :lmao:

They only showed the ninth. After that they went back to Tigers/Chisox.
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Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2008, 10:09:16 PM
How many games left in the season?
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Post by: jendf on September 14, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
How many games left in the season?


14 for the D-backs
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 15, 2008, 05:17:03 AM
Luis Ayala blew the save for Ollie Perez in the ninth.  The Phillthies responded by sweeping the Brewers.  Mets up by one, Pedro going for them tonight in DC.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 15, 2008, 10:02:49 AM

I am afraid to say anything.  the karmic balance is that delicate.  :-)
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Post by: jendf on September 15, 2008, 10:47:34 AM

I am afraid to say anything.  the karmic balance is that delicate.  :-)

No need to be afraid. The D-backs are partaking in the meltdown of the century. You guys just keep getting runs and you've got it.

Our guys appear to have given up on runs and good at-bats. I hate baseball.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 15, 2008, 10:51:14 AM

I am afraid to say anything.  the karmic balance is that delicate.  :-)

No need to be afraid. The D-backs are partaking in the meltdown of the century. You guys just keep getting runs and you've got it.

Our guys appear to have given up on runs and good at-bats. I hate baseball.

pssssssst.  LA went to extras yesterday at colorado before losing.  it was 0-0 after 9 innings.  I don't think that had ever happened
before.  that ain't scoring runs.  jus' sayin'


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Post by: jendf on September 15, 2008, 11:32:04 AM

I am afraid to say anything.  the karmic balance is that delicate.  :-)

No need to be afraid. The D-backs are partaking in the meltdown of the century. You guys just keep getting runs and you've got it.

Our guys appear to have given up on runs and good at-bats. I hate baseball.

pssssssst.  LA went to extras yesterday at colorado before losing.  it was 0-0 after 9 innings.  I don't think that had ever happened
before.  that ain't scoring runs.  jus' sayin'




1 game of not scoring runs is a little different than say...10 games of craptacular baseball.  :banghead:

Seriously, you should really stop worrying. The Dodgers have this firmly in their control.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 15, 2008, 11:37:45 AM

I am afraid to say anything.  the karmic balance is that delicate.  :-)

No need to be afraid. The D-backs are partaking in the meltdown of the century. You guys just keep getting runs and you've got it.

Our guys appear to have given up on runs and good at-bats. I hate baseball.

pssssssst.  LA went to extras yesterday at colorado before losing.  it was 0-0 after 9 innings.  I don't think that had ever happened
before.  that ain't scoring runs.  jus' sayin'




1 game of not scoring runs is a little different than say...10 games of craptacular baseball.  :banghead:

Seriously, you should really stop worrying. The Dodgers have this firmly in their control.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!  I can't heeeeeeeeeeeaaaaarrrrrr yooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu  :lalala: :lalala: :lalala:



 :-)
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Post by: jendf on September 15, 2008, 12:19:47 PM
Hey, BSS. This isn't you in the video is it? From a Mets game...

Jenga--The Drunk Dude Version

[youtube=425,350]kdnImqDmLqk[/youtube]
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Post by: thundley4 on September 15, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
After being no-hit by Zambrano last night, the Astros are hitless through 5 inning against Ted Lily today. lol :-)
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 15, 2008, 02:36:00 PM
After being no-hit by Zambrano last night, the Astros are hitless through 5 inning against Ted Lily today. lol :-)

playing a home series in another team's ballpark has got to suck.
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Post by: thundley4 on September 15, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
Miller Park is the Cubs home away from home, so that is really unfair to Houston, but I'll take the wins.
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Post by: Odin's Hand on September 15, 2008, 02:47:53 PM
Yeah, "Wrigley North".
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 15, 2008, 04:00:49 PM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.
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Post by: jendf on September 15, 2008, 06:32:47 PM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.
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Post by: morningAngel on September 15, 2008, 07:18:14 PM
 :chairshot: :therock: :yawn:
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Post by: Red October on September 16, 2008, 07:21:28 AM
:chairshot: :therock: :yawn:

I know you're as excited about the Phils showdown with Atlanta as I am!  We can lock up a post-season slot with what we do against Atlanta the rest of the year, we've owned them this season.  :cheersmate: 

And can you believe Milwaukee firing Ned Yost?  Why does everyone think firing the manager will give you a sudden burst?   :mental:
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Post by: thundley4 on September 16, 2008, 07:52:20 AM
Yost is toast. I know the fans have been calling for his head since their melt down late last year.  The Brewers put everything into winning it all this year, and it isn't going to happen.
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Post by: Chris_ on September 16, 2008, 08:07:42 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 16, 2008, 08:08:04 AM
:chairshot: :therock: :yawn:

I know you're as excited about the Phils showdown with Atlanta as I am!  We can lock up a post-season slot with what we do against Atlanta the rest of the year, we've owned them this season.  :cheersmate: 

And can you believe Milwaukee firing Ned Yost?  Why does everyone think firing the manager will give you a sudden burst?   :mental:

she wouldn't know ned yost from french toast, and wouldn't trouble herself with which one is supposed to have syrup poured all over it. :-)
and she wouldn't consider that a bad thing at all. :p
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 16, 2008, 08:20:37 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


well, I'm not sure about famous.  they are probably more famous for collapsing in august.  but there is a healthy dose of the giants still out there on the schedule.  I am extremely conscious of the fact that LA ends the season with 3 at home against the giants, 3 at home against the padres, and then close the season out with 3 at SF. if the race is still in question for that series (and I am assuming that it probably will be), the giant fans will turn out in droves. one of the reasons that the dodgers/giants rivalry is so steeped with hatred is because these two teams love to knock each other out of the playoffs when the other team is already out of the race.  not to mention the fact that they have 3 games against the pirates right in front of them, who swept the cardinals over the weekend.

it isn't over until it's finally over.  if baseball has taught me anything over the years, it has taught me that.
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Post by: Red October on September 16, 2008, 08:31:50 AM
:chairshot: :therock: :yawn:

I know you're as excited about the Phils showdown with Atlanta as I am!  We can lock up a post-season slot with what we do against Atlanta the rest of the year, we've owned them this season.  :cheersmate: 

And can you believe Milwaukee firing Ned Yost?  Why does everyone think firing the manager will give you a sudden burst?   :mental:

she wouldn't know ned yost from french toast, and wouldn't trouble herself with which one is supposed to have syrup poured all over it. :-)
and she wouldn't consider that a bad thing at all. :p


Don't let her fool you, she's a rabid purist baseball fan.  She's the one who bought Barry Bond's HR ball and put an asterik on it.  That guy in the news was just a decoy.   :-)
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Post by: jendf on September 16, 2008, 09:11:07 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)
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Post by: jendf on September 16, 2008, 09:11:53 AM
:chairshot: :therock: :yawn:

I know you're as excited about the Phils showdown with Atlanta as I am!  We can lock up a post-season slot with what we do against Atlanta the rest of the year, we've owned them this season.  :cheersmate: 

And can you believe Milwaukee firing Ned Yost?  Why does everyone think firing the manager will give you a sudden burst?   :mental:

she wouldn't know ned yost from french toast, and wouldn't trouble herself with which one is supposed to have syrup poured all over it. :-)
and she wouldn't consider that a bad thing at all. :p


Don't let her fool you, she's a rabid purist baseball fan.  She's the one who bought Barry Bond's HR ball and put an asterik on it.  That guy in the news was just a decoy.   :-)

Off topic: Your new avatar and message just cracks me up.  :-)
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Post by: Red October on September 16, 2008, 09:16:46 AM
:chairshot: :therock: :yawn:

I know you're as excited about the Phils showdown with Atlanta as I am!  We can lock up a post-season slot with what we do against Atlanta the rest of the year, we've owned them this season.  :cheersmate: 

And can you believe Milwaukee firing Ned Yost?  Why does everyone think firing the manager will give you a sudden burst?   :mental:

she wouldn't know ned yost from french toast, and wouldn't trouble herself with which one is supposed to have syrup poured all over it. :-)
and she wouldn't consider that a bad thing at all. :p


Don't let her fool you, she's a rabid purist baseball fan.  She's the one who bought Barry Bond's HR ball and put an asterik on it.  That guy in the news was just a decoy.   :-)

Off topic: Your new avatar and message just cracks me up.  :-)

Sometimes you just gotta scream  :-)
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Post by: jendf on September 17, 2008, 09:18:07 PM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.
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Post by: Chris_ on September 17, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

The lower the opponent, the lower the Dodgers play.

You are in good shape, trust me.


Whomever wins the NLW gets in -- no one else in that Division even gets close to wild card.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 17, 2008, 11:18:58 PM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

The lower the opponent, the lower the Dodgers play.

You are in good shape, trust me.


Whomever wins the NLW gets in -- no one else in that Division even gets close to wild card.

if you are going to "trust" someone, jen, make it someone that knows something about baseball besides tired-ass
cliches and threadbare bromides about "playing down to the competition".  it was ridiculously easy to blow this bit
of anecdotal (and counter-intuitive, I might add) silliness out of the water.

LA is  43-33 (.566) against teams under .500 : (ATL, CIN, CLE, COL, DET, PIT, SDP, SFG, WSN)
LA is  36-39 (.480) against teams over .500 : (ARI, CHC, CHW, FLA, HOU, LAA, MIL, NYM, PHI, STL)

sorry, airline boy, but this utterly refutes your grand theory of the dodgers playing down to the competition.  wanna
try a different cliche?  maybe they don't give 110%, or maybe the thought it was a sprint, not a marathon . . . .

and thanks for the primer on the wild card standings, but I don't think anyone was suffering from any delusions about
the NL west sending two teams to the playoffs this year.

I usually ignore FD's pathologically dodger hating baseball posts, but getting a ****ing snowman hung on you in the 7th
inning during a pennant race will exhaust your patience.  I hope to feel better in the morning. :-)
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 17, 2008, 11:36:34 PM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

some extremely, um, odd pitching changes in the 7th inning for LA tonight.  :uhsure: and nomar left with a knee injury in the fifth. :whatever:

I watched your game tonight after the slaughter in pittsburgh ended . . . how did that ninth inning sit with you, jen? :-)  :tongue:

you got out with the win, that's all that matter, of course.  Az gets that freaking Lincecum kid tomorrow.  I believe that if the
pitching rotations hold, LA won't see him again this season.  but I wouldn't be surprised to see the giants juggle that around, though.

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Post by: jendf on September 18, 2008, 09:57:18 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

some extremely, um, odd pitching changes in the 7th inning for LA tonight.  :uhsure: and nomar left with a knee injury in the fifth. :whatever:

I watched your game tonight after the slaughter in pittsburgh ended . . . how did that ninth inning sit with you, jen? :-)  :tongue:
you got out with the win, that's all that matter, of course.  Az gets that freaking Lincecum kid tomorrow.  I believe that if the
pitching rotations hold, LA won't see him again this season.  but I wouldn't be surprised to see the giants juggle that around, though.



Yeah. Let's not discuss that. :banghead: I was about to start throwing things at my radio. Slaten nearly botched it for us. But Melvin seems to be getting tougher or is finally completely exasperated by his bullpen because he yanked him after walking two guys. Thank goodness.

Like I said before, I'm really too young to be getting ulcers over stupid shit like this.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

some extremely, um, odd pitching changes in the 7th inning for LA tonight.  :uhsure: and nomar left with a knee injury in the fifth. :whatever:

I watched your game tonight after the slaughter in pittsburgh ended . . . how did that ninth inning sit with you, jen? :-)  :tongue:
you got out with the win, that's all that matter, of course.  Az gets that freaking Lincecum kid tomorrow.  I believe that if the
pitching rotations hold, LA won't see him again this season.  but I wouldn't be surprised to see the giants juggle that around, though.



Yeah. Let's not discuss that. :banghead: I was about to start throwing things at my radio. Slaten nearly botched it for us. But Melvin seems to be getting tougher or is finally completely exasperated by his bullpen because he yanked him after walking two guys. Thank goodness.

Like I said before, I'm really too young to be getting ulcers over stupid shit like this.

I feel your pain.  I endured a difficult 12th inning this afternoon in pittsburgh.  how's this for not fun :

Quote
Pittsburgh - Bottom of 12th   SCORE
Jonathan Broxton pitching for Los Angeles   LAD   PIT
J Broxton relieved S Proctor.   4   3
R Doumit struck out swinging.   4   3
N Morgan walked.   4   3
N Morgan stole second.   4   3
L Cruz grounded out to pitcher, N Morgan to third.   4   3
N McLouth intentionally walked.   4   3
N McLouth stole second.   4   3
J Michaels popped out to second.   4   3

torre intentionally walked the potential winning run.  it worked, but it was difficult to watch.

I watched Az beat lincecum tonight.  good job.  that is only his fourth loss of the season.   :o

next you have three at colorado, who Az has stomped the shit out of all season (in fact, 6 of your
remaining 10 games are against the rox) and we are at home for three against the giants, who
always give us fits.  I thought last month that the d'backs four game series at StL next week will
be pivotal.  and our fate will be decided against SD and SF.

you realize that we are both going to be mostly scar tissue by the time this is all over, don't you? :-)

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 19, 2008, 12:26:59 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

some extremely, um, odd pitching changes in the 7th inning for LA tonight.  :uhsure: and nomar left with a knee injury in the fifth. :whatever:

I watched your game tonight after the slaughter in pittsburgh ended . . . how did that ninth inning sit with you, jen? :-)  :tongue:
you got out with the win, that's all that matter, of course.  Az gets that freaking Lincecum kid tomorrow.  I believe that if the
pitching rotations hold, LA won't see him again this season.  but I wouldn't be surprised to see the giants juggle that around, though.



Yeah. Let's not discuss that. :banghead: I was about to start throwing things at my radio. Slaten nearly botched it for us. But Melvin seems to be getting tougher or is finally completely exasperated by his bullpen because he yanked him after walking two guys. Thank goodness.

Like I said before, I'm really too young to be getting ulcers over stupid shit like this.

I feel your pain.  I endured a difficult 12th inning this afternoon in pittsburgh.  how's this for not fun :

Quote
Pittsburgh - Bottom of 12th   SCORE
Jonathan Broxton pitching for Los Angeles   LAD   PIT
J Broxton relieved S Proctor.   4   3
R Doumit struck out swinging.   4   3
N Morgan walked.   4   3
N Morgan stole second.   4   3
L Cruz grounded out to pitcher, N Morgan to third.   4   3
N McLouth intentionally walked.   4   3
N McLouth stole second.   4   3
J Michaels popped out to second.   4   3

torre intentionally walked the potential winning run.  it worked, but it was difficult to watch.

I watched Az beat lincecum tonight.  good job.  that is only his fourth loss of the season.   :o

next you have three at colorado, who Az has stomped the shit out of all season (in fact, 6 of your
remaining 10 games are against the rox) and we are at home for three against the giants, who
always give us fits.  I thought last month that the d'backs four game series at StL next week will
be pivotal.  and our fate will be decided against SD and SF.

you realize that we are both going to be mostly scar tissue by the time this is all over, don't you? :-)



I think I'm going to need therapy after this season.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 12:41:46 AM
Jen, if you were referring to me, naaah.  I haven't been to Shea in 34 years.  Just a rabid fan.

Whoops! Yeah, I was referring to you.

Before you freak (I am referring to an upstream post), the Dodgers are famous for collapsing in the stretch.


You don't know how much I wish for that everyday. LOL.  :-)

They sure collapsed in today's game with the Pirates. Bottom of the 8th right now with a score of 15-7.

I'm listening to the D-backs game and we are ahead by 3 but it's early. I sure hope we can close the gap tonight. 3 1/2 game lead looks less intimidating than 4 1/2.

some extremely, um, odd pitching changes in the 7th inning for LA tonight.  :uhsure: and nomar left with a knee injury in the fifth. :whatever:

I watched your game tonight after the slaughter in pittsburgh ended . . . how did that ninth inning sit with you, jen? :-)  :tongue:
you got out with the win, that's all that matter, of course.  Az gets that freaking Lincecum kid tomorrow.  I believe that if the
pitching rotations hold, LA won't see him again this season.  but I wouldn't be surprised to see the giants juggle that around, though.



Yeah. Let's not discuss that. :banghead: I was about to start throwing things at my radio. Slaten nearly botched it for us. But Melvin seems to be getting tougher or is finally completely exasperated by his bullpen because he yanked him after walking two guys. Thank goodness.

Like I said before, I'm really too young to be getting ulcers over stupid shit like this.

I feel your pain.  I endured a difficult 12th inning this afternoon in pittsburgh.  how's this for not fun :

Quote
Pittsburgh - Bottom of 12th   SCORE
Jonathan Broxton pitching for Los Angeles   LAD   PIT
J Broxton relieved S Proctor.   4   3
R Doumit struck out swinging.   4   3
N Morgan walked.   4   3
N Morgan stole second.   4   3
L Cruz grounded out to pitcher, N Morgan to third.   4   3
N McLouth intentionally walked.   4   3
N McLouth stole second.   4   3
J Michaels popped out to second.   4   3

torre intentionally walked the potential winning run.  it worked, but it was difficult to watch.

I watched Az beat lincecum tonight.  good job.  that is only his fourth loss of the season.   :o

next you have three at colorado, who Az has stomped the shit out of all season (in fact, 6 of your
remaining 10 games are against the rox) and we are at home for three against the giants, who
always give us fits.  I thought last month that the d'backs four game series at StL next week will
be pivotal.  and our fate will be decided against SD and SF.

you realize that we are both going to be mostly scar tissue by the time this is all over, don't you? :-)



I think I'm going to need therapy after this season.  :-)

looking at it as objectively as I can, I would be pissed off at the scheduling if I was a dbacks fan.  you play
three at bullpen torching coors field, then go straight to StL for four and straight back to finish with three at
home against the rox.  no off days.  that is a pretty difficult 10 game stretch.

but I'm not any happier playing our last 10 games against two teams that truly hate us.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 06:16:01 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 19, 2008, 09:25:19 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.

But at least, when doing that, you gain a couple of hours.  The eastern teams lose a couple.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 19, 2008, 09:32:34 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.

I think we've moved past obsession and are venturing into psychosis territory.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 19, 2008, 09:33:28 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.

Well, today, for the first time, I heard "Dodgers" and "Magic Number" (7?) used in the same sentence.

FWIIW.


ps: What does "had a snowman hung on you" mean?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 19, 2008, 09:33:55 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.

I think we've moved past obsession and are venturing into psychosis territory.  :-)

Sports in general will do that to you.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 19, 2008, 10:37:08 AM
Okay, no more bullshitting around... we need to beat those faggy Marlins into the ground.  We've been suffering for 25 years, and Florida doesn't even have any fans!!!!  Where do they get off beating us so much?  Who told them they were allowed to play us tough and spoil our post-season?  They better not even THINK about giving us trouble.  They need to do the right thing and roll over and die. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 10:56:30 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.

I think we've moved past obsession and are venturing into psychosis territory.  :-)

I literally almost threw up yesterday when broxton started walking everyone in the 12th. :puke:  I'm not exaggerating.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 11:01:36 AM

speaking of crappy scheduling, LA has a home game the night after a game on the other side of the country . . . not that I am obsessing or anything.

Well, today, for the first time, I heard "Dodgers" and "Magic Number" (7?) used in the same sentence.

FWIIW.


ps: What does "had a snowman hung on you" mean?

 :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: I can't hear you . . . you didn't just say that . . . OMG!!!  :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala:

you get a snowman hung on you when your opponent scores 8 runs in an inning.
(http://www.christmasballoon.com/images/Snowman2Ball25.jpg)

(yeah, I know.  snowmen usually have three balls (absolutely no pun intended), but I didn't invent the saying)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 19, 2008, 11:58:20 AM
Okay, no more bullshitting around... we need to beat those faggy Marlins into the ground.  We've been suffering for 25 years, and Florida doesn't even have any fans!!!!  Where do they get off beating us so much?  Who told them they were allowed to play us tough and spoil our post-season?  They better not even THINK about giving us trouble.  They need to do the right thing and roll over and die. 

Aren't they heating up right about now?  Besides, it's time for the Phillthies to cool back down.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 05:48:34 PM

LA was 4-4 against the phils, and 3-4 against the mets.  overall, the mets struck me as the more solid team.  and BSS
has halfway converted me into a semi-met fan from our conversations in this thread this season.  if the dodgers weren't
playing, or were playing late, i found myself watching the mets a LOT this season.

BSS is such a bad influence. :-)

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 09:30:56 PM


it's tiiiiiiiiiime for dodger baseball!!

vin scully just told me so.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 19, 2008, 09:43:07 PM

Az is going to score the tying run here.  2nd and 3rd, 1 out.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 19, 2008, 10:33:41 PM
 :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 01:20:42 AM
we both lost!!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 20, 2008, 04:08:13 AM
The hot Phillies ran into the slightly hotter Marlins, and the Fish won.  Coupled with the Mets breaking a tie game open with four runs in the eighth--rookie OF Daniel Murphy needs to start every game until the end of the regular season--and the Mets go back on top of the NL East.

The Mets will seal the deal next week, agains thte Cubs, whose magic number dropped to one with the Reds taking out the Brew Crew.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 20, 2008, 07:50:02 AM
Goddamit!  It's the same shit every time we play Florida.   Nobody wants to throw strikes.  Brett Myers refuses to throw a fastball.  We score 8 runs, they score twenty.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:  Is it too much to ask to stop them from scoring TOUCHDOWNS against you???

All in front of dozens and dozens of fans.  :whatever: 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: NHSparky on September 20, 2008, 08:41:38 AM
So much for the easy letdown, eh?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 20, 2008, 09:43:15 AM
We haven't been able to beat Florida for three years, for some damn reason.  If MLB would be kind enough to not schedule us to play them in September anymore, that would be greatly appriciated.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 20, 2008, 11:15:25 AM
It would be greatly appreciated if the Marlins were removed from the cubs schedule, too.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 04:19:32 PM
Goddamit!  It's the same shit every time we play Florida.   Nobody wants to throw strikes.  Brett Myers refuses to throw a fastball.  We score 8 runs, they score twenty.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:  Is it too much to ask to stop them from scoring TOUCHDOWNS against you???

All in front of dozens and dozens of fans.  :whatever: 

some nights, it makes you wonder why we watch the damn game, doesn't it?

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 20, 2008, 04:58:09 PM
Goddamit!  It's the same shit every time we play Florida.   Nobody wants to throw strikes.  Brett Myers refuses to throw a fastball.  We score 8 runs, they score twenty.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:  Is it too much to ask to stop them from scoring TOUCHDOWNS against you???

All in front of dozens and dozens of fans.  :whatever: 

some nights, it makes you wonder why we watch the damn game, doesn't it?


I might have a clue on that question  :mental:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 20, 2008, 05:13:16 PM
I might have a clue on that question  :mental:

Eternal sunshine of Spotless Mind?  As a Cubs Fan, I am well aware of having the ability to ignore, if not forget the heartbreak of seasons past.  :banghead:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 06:29:17 PM

not a good night so far.  southern miss lost to marshall. :banghead:  that hasn't ever happened before, and we were at home.

we will see if my luck changes for baseball.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 20, 2008, 06:59:36 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 07:03:55 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:

I saw it.  now I want the phils or the mets to get the WC, because I don't want the NL west winner to have to go to wrigley.  (whoever it turns out to be)

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 08:58:30 PM

the dodgers are about to get underway.  here we go again.  damn, aren't pennant races fun? :banghead:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 09:49:04 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:

I saw it.  now I want the phils or the mets to get the WC, because I don't want the NL west winner to have to go to wrigley.  (whoever it turns out to be)



The Cubs were no problem for the D-backs last year in the postseason.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 09:50:11 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:

I saw it.  now I want the phils or the mets to get the WC, because I don't want the NL west winner to have to go to wrigley.  (whoever it turns out to be)



The Cubs were no problem for the D-backs last year in the postseason.  :-)

are you guys tied up in the ninth?

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 09:51:39 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:

I saw it.  now I want the phils or the mets to get the WC, because I don't want the NL west winner to have to go to wrigley.  (whoever it turns out to be)



The Cubs were no problem for the D-backs last year in the postseason.  :-)

are you guys tied up in the ninth?



Yes. We have one on base but two outs...hopefully we can take it to extra innings.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 09:53:35 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:

I saw it.  now I want the phils or the mets to get the WC, because I don't want the NL west winner to have to go to wrigley.  (whoever it turns out to be)



The Cubs were no problem for the D-backs last year in the postseason.  :-)

are you guys tied up in the ninth?



Yes. We have one on base but two outs...hopefully we can take it to extra innings.

we're still having problems with the freaking giants.  are you watching your game?

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 09:56:15 PM
The Cubs clinched the NLC.  :popcorn:

I saw it.  now I want the phils or the mets to get the WC, because I don't want the NL west winner to have to go to wrigley.  (whoever it turns out to be)



The Cubs were no problem for the D-backs last year in the postseason.  :-)

are you guys tied up in the ninth?



Yes. We have one on base but two outs...hopefully we can take it to extra innings.

we're still having problems with the freaking giants.  are you watching your game?



Drew got a homer!!! 5-3!!!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:03:36 PM
Tying run at the plate. Why, oh, why do they insist on doing this to me every single night?! :bawl:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
Tying run at the plate. Why, oh, why do they insist on doing this to me every single night?! :bawl:

because they secretly hate us. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:05:17 PM
Tying run at the plate. Why, oh, why do they insist on doing this to me every single night?! :bawl:

because they secretly hate us. :-)

I think the feeling is mutual right now. LOL.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:05:44 PM
1 more out. 1 more out. Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please.....
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:09:03 PM
This is not going well.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:09:37 PM
i am jumping to your game

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:10:08 PM
We just need one more strike. Famous last words.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:11:07 PM
never trust coors field
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:11:48 PM
We just need one more strike. Famous last words.

I see it.

you just won!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:12:21 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:14:29 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.

we are down 2 runs, but we have 2 men on, no out, and the heart of the order coming up
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:15:18 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.

when that came off the bat, I thought it would drop into the corner . . . .
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.

we are down 2 runs, but we have 2 men on, no out, and the heart of the order coming up


I'm watching it now. This is too cool. I may have to subscribe to this next season. Twenty bucks isn't bad.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:18:26 PM
GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

manny rocks!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:18:44 PM
Manny nails it.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:19:26 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.

we are down 2 runs, but we have 2 men on, no out, and the heart of the order coming up


I'm watching it now. This is too cool. I may have to subscribe to this next season. Twenty bucks isn't bad.

I think it's like $100 for the season, but it's worth it.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:21:16 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.

we are down 2 runs, but we have 2 men on, no out, and the heart of the order coming up


I'm watching it now. This is too cool. I may have to subscribe to this next season. Twenty bucks isn't bad.

I think it's like $100 for the season, but it's worth it.



Oh, I see. I was look at the rest of the season cost.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:23:14 PM
Yes!! That was way too :censored: close.

we are down 2 runs, but we have 2 men on, no out, and the heart of the order coming up


I'm watching it now. This is too cool. I may have to subscribe to this next season. Twenty bucks isn't bad.

I think it's like $100 for the season, but it's worth it.



Oh, I see. I was look at the rest of the season cost.

they are charging $20 for the rest of the season? 

the scum!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:27:18 PM
i do believe that matt kamp's home run was in the loge.  that was unusual.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:32:58 PM
Tying run at the plate, nobody out.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:36:00 PM

LA has procter warming up.  THAT is a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:38:36 PM
Wild pitch!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:38:50 PM
sf just stole a run.

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Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:39:37 PM
Looks like they are making him go back. Weird.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
did it hit the batter?
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:41:15 PM
the ball was dead after it hit the batter
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Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 10:41:25 PM
did it hit the batter?

He swung on it, it hit his leg, so it's a dead ball. Apparently.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:43:17 PM
that was strike 3, and after it hit the batter, the ball was dead, so the run didn't score

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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 10:49:42 PM
did it hit the batter?

He swung on it, it hit his leg, so it's a dead ball. Apparently.

the baseball rule book is massive.  it covers everything.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris on September 20, 2008, 10:55:09 PM
:yawn:


oh, oops.  I'm sorry.  I was channeling mA for a second there.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 20, 2008, 11:01:05 PM
torre pulled kiroda . . .

this game is kiing me, jen!

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Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 11:10:56 PM
I can imagine, WE! Bases loaded. Nobody out.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 20, 2008, 11:12:32 PM
torre pulled kiroda . . .

this game is kiing me, jen!



Here. I think you are going to need these.  :-)

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Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 21, 2008, 12:32:55 AM
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Any day we beat the Marlins is a good day, but this win was HUGE!  Now we're in great shape going down the stretch.  We'll be either in the division lead or up on the WC race by 2 games no matter what happens against Florida tomorrow, and then we close it out against Atlanta and Washington at home.  :bday:  I feel a lot more relieved now. 
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 21, 2008, 12:48:38 AM
manny hits another home run

9-5, dodgers
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 21, 2008, 01:11:28 AM
10-7 dodgers

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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 21, 2008, 01:12:13 AM
all we need is an out

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Post by: morningAngel on September 21, 2008, 06:30:38 PM
omg
i can't handle the excitement  :whatever:
 :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
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Post by: Chris_ on September 21, 2008, 06:44:05 PM
all we need is an out




So, what happened?
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Post by: jendf on September 21, 2008, 06:56:18 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!
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Post by: morningAngel on September 21, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:
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Post by: Chris on September 21, 2008, 07:04:58 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:

 :rotf:
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Post by: jendf on September 21, 2008, 08:53:16 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:

 :rotf:

Get a room you two!  :bird:  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 21, 2008, 08:54:57 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:

 :rotf:

Get a room you two!  :bird:  :-)
might as well, not like WE is any good to me right now... :whatever:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 21, 2008, 09:04:37 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:

 :rotf:

Get a room you two!  :bird:  :-)
might as well, not like WE is any good to me right now... :whatever:

... maybe you shouldn't make him take his Dodger hat off? 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 21, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:

 :rotf:

Get a room you two!  :bird:  :-)
might as well, not like WE is any good to me right now... :whatever:

... maybe you shouldn't make him take his Dodger hat off? 
its not the hat that bothers me as much as him telling me to move my head to the left so he can see the tv  :hammer:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 21, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
LA won yesterday but lose today in the 11th. We (the D-backs) beat Colorado today so the lead in the division is down to 2.5!

 :blah:

 :rotf:

Get a room you two!  :bird:  :-)
might as well, not like WE is any good to me right now... :whatever:

... maybe you shouldn't make him take his Dodger hat off? 
its not the hat that bothers me as much as him telling me to move my head to the left so he can see the tv  :hammer:

See, that's why you gotta go old-school and get busy while listening to the radio broadcast.  In the back of a Chevy.

"He's moving around third... he's heading for home plate...HE'S IN THERE!"  :afro:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 21, 2008, 11:50:30 PM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 22, 2008, 08:50:58 AM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.

there should be a law against hijacking or whoring up a baseball thread.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 22, 2008, 08:52:14 AM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.

there should be a law against hijacking or whoring up a baseball thread.
excuse me? how can discussing my sex life be whoring up a baseball thread?  it can only make it better! 
or at least give people something to  :rotf:  about....
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 22, 2008, 08:53:06 AM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.
and as long as there is a baseball thread somewhere, I will sully it to the best of my sullying abilities as long as I am capable of sullying so help me Joe Dimaggio!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 22, 2008, 09:04:39 AM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.
and as long as there is a baseball thread somewhere, I will sully it to the best of my sullying abilities as long as I am capable of sullying so help me Joe Dimaggio!

Red October, BlueStateSaint, WE, and myself are teetering on the edge of mental illness over these pennant races. I would have thought you, as a nurse, would be more concerned.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 22, 2008, 09:18:50 AM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.
and as long as there is a baseball thread somewhere, I will sully it to the best of my sullying abilities as long as I am capable of sullying so help me Joe Dimaggio!

Red October, BlueStateSaint, WE, and myself are teetering on the edge of mental illness over these pennant races. I would have thought you, as a nurse, would be more concerned.

that'll be the day.  have you ever met a nurse that didn't put the rectal thermometer in the freezer before using it?

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Post by: Red October on September 22, 2008, 09:41:19 AM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 22, 2008, 11:02:09 AM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .
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Post by: Red October on September 22, 2008, 03:48:14 PM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .

Lemme sleep on it.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 22, 2008, 03:55:41 PM
You guys have sullied a perfectly good baseball thread.
and as long as there is a baseball thread somewhere, I will sully it to the best of my sullying abilities as long as I am capable of sullying so help me Joe Dimaggio!

Red October, BlueStateSaint, WE, and myself are teetering on the edge of mental illness over these pennant races. I would have thought you, as a nurse, would be more concerned.
you forgot my other degrees, including psychology with an emphasis on chemical dependency counseling, I am trying to stage an intervention here!  stop the insanity!  One day at a time!  Let go and Let God!  Admit your powerlessness... 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 22, 2008, 03:56:10 PM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .

Lemme sleep on it.
now I am praying for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive....
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Post by: Red October on September 22, 2008, 09:00:30 PM
Pat Burrell, you magnificent bastard!!!    :cheersmate:

5 to go, ya'll. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 22, 2008, 09:05:06 PM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .

Lemme sleep on it.
now I am praying for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive....

I couldn't take it any longer... God I was crazy when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 22, 2008, 09:10:43 PM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .

Lemme sleep on it.
now I am praying for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive....

I couldn't take it any longer... God I was crazy when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave.
started swearing to my God and on my mother's grave
I would love you to the end of time
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Post by: Red October on September 22, 2008, 09:39:35 PM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .

Lemme sleep on it.
now I am praying for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive....

I couldn't take it any longer... God I was crazy when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave.
started swearing to my God and on my mother's grave
I would love you to the end of time

And now I'm praying for the end of time!  :cheersmate:

If the Phils win the division for the second year in a row, it just may be the end of time.  :o 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 22, 2008, 09:44:17 PM
Oh, c'mon you guys... what could be more American than reenacting the scene from Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

Stop right there!  I gotta know right now . . .

Lemme sleep on it.
now I am praying for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive....

I couldn't take it any longer... God I was crazy when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave.
started swearing to my God and on my mother's grave
I would love you to the end of time

And now I'm praying for the end of time!  :cheersmate:

If the Phils win the division for the second year in a row, it just may be the end of time.  :o 
you ruined a perfectly good Meatloaf thread by mentioning baseball  :bawl:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 22, 2008, 09:48:01 PM
Cubs put the hurt on the Mets tonight.  It's bad when the Mets give up a grand slam to the opposing pitcher.  :fuelfire:
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Post by: jendf on September 22, 2008, 10:31:34 PM
Wootage! Look out, WE, here we come!  :evillaugh: Go D-backs. Man, this is going to be a bitter battle until the very end.
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 23, 2008, 04:22:50 AM
Cubs put the hurt on the Mets tonight.  It's bad when the Mets give up a grand slam to the opposing pitcher.  :fuelfire:

Tell me about it.  But, Niese is 21 years old, and he'll come around.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 23, 2008, 08:05:29 AM
Wootage! Look out, WE, here we come!  :evillaugh: Go D-backs. Man, this is going to be a bitter battle until the very end.

this is painful.  I think I would rather be coming from behind than trying to fight a team off (which is where I thought the race would be right now), but we are where we are.

the NL west went to a 1 game playoff last season.  I didn't see any reason why this year would be a cake walk for anyone.  thus, the name of this thread. 

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 23, 2008, 08:46:00 AM
Wootage! Look out, WE, here we come!  :evillaugh: Go D-backs. Man, this is going to be a bitter battle until the very end.

this is painful.  I think I would rather be coming from behind than trying to fight a team off (which is where I thought the race would be right now), but we are where we are.

the NL west went to a 1 game playoff last season.  I didn't see any reason why this year would be a cake walk for anyone.  thus, the name of this thread. 



Oh, no... you don't want to be down two games with just six to play.  Take it from someone who's missed the playoffs by a game or two way too many times recently, you'd rather be right where you are right now.  When the Cards won the WS in '06, we finished the season with a better record than them, but missed the postseason by a game.  UGH!  No, looking up at someone ain't no fun.
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Post by: Wretched Excess on September 23, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
Wootage! Look out, WE, here we come!  :evillaugh: Go D-backs. Man, this is going to be a bitter battle until the very end.

this is painful.  I think I would rather be coming from behind than trying to fight a team off (which is where I thought the race would be right now), but we are where we are.

the NL west went to a 1 game playoff last season.  I didn't see any reason why this year would be a cake walk for anyone.  thus, the name of this thread. 



Oh, no... you don't want to be down two games with just six to play.  Take it from someone who's missed the playoffs by a game or two way too many times recently, you'd rather be right where you are right now.  When the Cards won the WS in '06, we finished the season with a better record than them, but missed the postseason by a game.  UGH!  No, looking up at someone ain't no fun.

that is probably just a reflection of how unhappy I am right now with them breathing down out necks. :-)

LA is actually better off than I thought they would be right now.  last month, I thought it would come down to the last week, but I was thinking that we would be trailing right now, and that the Az series in StL would be the Dodgers' one decent shot at the end to make up some ground.

finishing the season at SF is weighing more and more heavily upon me.  throw the standings out the window when LA and SF play at the end of the season, and one team has an opportunity to send the other team home for the postseason.


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Post by: jendf on September 23, 2008, 09:33:38 AM
Wootage! Look out, WE, here we come!  :evillaugh: Go D-backs. Man, this is going to be a bitter battle until the very end.

this is painful.  I think I would rather be coming from behind than trying to fight a team off (which is where I thought the race would be right now), but we are where we are.

the NL west went to a 1 game playoff last season.  I didn't see any reason why this year would be a cake walk for anyone.  thus, the name of this thread. 



Oh, no... you don't want to be down two games with just six to play.  Take it from someone who's missed the playoffs by a game or two way too many times recently, you'd rather be right where you are right now.  When the Cards won the WS in '06, we finished the season with a better record than them, but missed the postseason by a game.  UGH!  No, looking up at someone ain't no fun.

I have to agree. While I'm excited that the D-backs are making it interesting, the Dodgers' fate is in their hands. All we can do is keep winning and hope they slip up.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 23, 2008, 09:36:01 AM
Wootage! Look out, WE, here we come!  :evillaugh: Go D-backs. Man, this is going to be a bitter battle until the very end.

this is painful.  I think I would rather be coming from behind than trying to fight a team off (which is where I thought the race would be right now), but we are where we are.

the NL west went to a 1 game playoff last season.  I didn't see any reason why this year would be a cake walk for anyone.  thus, the name of this thread. 



Oh, no... you don't want to be down two games with just six to play.  Take it from someone who's missed the playoffs by a game or two way too many times recently, you'd rather be right where you are right now.  When the Cards won the WS in '06, we finished the season with a better record than them, but missed the postseason by a game.  UGH!  No, looking up at someone ain't no fun.

that is probably just a reflection of how unhappy I am right now with them breathing down out necks. :-)

LA is actually better off than I thought they would be right now.  last month, I thought it would come down to the last week, but I was thinking that we would be trailing right now, and that the Az series in StL would be the Dodgers' one decent shot at the end to make up some ground.

finishing the season at SF is weighing more and more heavily upon me.  throw the standings out the window when LA and SF play at the end of the season, and one team has an opportunity to send the other team home for the postseason.




That will be interesting. I'm guessing the Giants really aren't too keen on letting the Dodgers win a trip to the postseason on their home turf. Winning to ruin someone else's chances is a great motivator.  :evillaugh:
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Post by: jendf on September 23, 2008, 12:42:53 PM
My name was drawn in the postseason ticket lottery! I have 4 tickets to Game #1 of the NLDS.

If you don't mind, WE, I would really like to go to this game and watch the D-backs. Could you pass that message along to the Dodgers for me? I'm sure they would understand.  :-)
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Post by: morningAngel on September 23, 2008, 08:06:38 PM
My name was drawn in the postseason ticket lottery! I have 4 tickets to Game #1 of the NLDS.

If you don't mind, WE, I would really like to go to this game and watch the D-backs. Could you pass that message along to the Dodgers for me? I'm sure they would understand.  :-)
:fuelfire: :fuelfire:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 23, 2008, 08:23:03 PM
That will be interesting. I'm guessing the Giants really aren't too keen on letting the Dodgers win a trip to the postseason on their home turf. Winning to ruin someone else's chances is a great motivator.  :evillaugh:

The Giants and Dodgers have been knocking each other out of the playoffs since Moses first said "Let my People Go -- PLAY BALL!"

It is a special hate we have for each other. A pure hate, unsullied by any remorse or kind thoughts.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 23, 2008, 09:11:07 PM
That will be interesting. I'm guessing the Giants really aren't too keen on letting the Dodgers win a trip to the postseason on their home turf. Winning to ruin someone else's chances is a great motivator.  :evillaugh:

The Giants and Dodgers have been knocking each other out of the playoffs since Moses first said "Let my People Go -- PLAY BALL!"

It is a special hate we have for each other. A pure hate, unsullied by any remorse or kind thoughts.



Awesome.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 24, 2008, 05:32:44 AM
Johan Santana did exactly what the Mets paid him $137.5 million for.  He pitched pretty well last night, then got a single on a weird broken-bat hit.  He was looking to bunt, drew back, and swung, sawing the bat off about ten inches up.  The head of the bat got in front of the ball, and deflected what would have been a rally-killing double play ball past both the shortstop and the second baseman.  Jose Reyes hit a bases-clearing triple shortly thereafter, and Reyes was flying as he turned first--and he was not catching up to Santana as Santana was running around the bases.  An inning earlier, on a David Wright single to left, Santana nearly ran over Nick Evans coming home from third, as Santana seems to have some wheels.  Too bad that he can't pitch again until Sunday . . . though I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry Manuel use him for an inning on Friday night against the Marlins (his "throw day").  The Phillthies lost when Hole Camels threw a pickoff attempt away, and Prince Fielder hit a walkoff 2-run HR to beat the Pirates.  Mets 1 1/2 back of the Phillthies, and one ahead of the Brew Crew.  Problem for the Mets--they face Carlos "The Animal" Zambrano tonight, and Rich Harden tomorrow.  Both will likely be under strict pitch counts, though.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 24, 2008, 07:39:25 AM
The Mets did well against the Cubs 6th starter.  :fuelfire:

I'm worried about Zambrano, his last outing was harsh, and most college pitchers could have fared better. Not only are the pitchers on low  pitch counts, the regular players aren't seeing as much playing time.  No need to take a chance on an injury with  the division and home field advantage in the bag.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 24, 2008, 07:48:12 AM
That will be interesting. I'm guessing the Giants really aren't too keen on letting the Dodgers win a trip to the postseason on their home turf. Winning to ruin someone else's chances is a great motivator.  :evillaugh:

The Giants and Dodgers have been knocking each other out of the playoffs since Moses first said "Let my People Go -- PLAY BALL!"

It is a special hate we have for each other. A pure hate, unsullied by any remorse or kind thoughts.


these two teams hate each other so intensely that when one left NY for the west coast, the other one had to follow it.  it was as though the  hatred had become so large that it developed the property of gravitational attraction.



Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 08:01:17 AM
Quote
The Phillthies lost when Hole Camels threw a pickoff attempt away

It was still a quality start and a very winnable game.  Any time you strand the bases loaded, the pitcher should be allowed to pork your girlfriend.  Fair is fair. 

Still no reason to panic... their big-boy bats should show up tonight.  2 out of 3 ain't bad. 

^ Meatloaf again, MA  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 24, 2008, 08:44:53 AM
Quote
The Phillthies lost when Hole Camels threw a pickoff attempt away

It was still a quality start and a very winnable game.  Any time you strand the bases loaded, the pitcher should be allowed to pork your girlfriend.  Fair is fair. 

Still no reason to panic... their big-boy bats should show up tonight.  2 out of 3 ain't bad. 

^ Meatloaf again, MA  :-)
baby we could talk all night, but that ain't getting us nowhere
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 04:59:03 PM
Johan Santana did exactly what the Mets paid him $137.5 million for.  He pitched pretty well last night, then got a single on a weird broken-bat hit.  He was looking to bunt, drew back, and swung, sawing the bat off about ten inches up.  The head of the bat got in front of the ball, and deflected what would have been a rally-killing double play ball past both the shortstop and the second baseman.  Jose Reyes hit a bases-clearing triple shortly thereafter, and Reyes was flying as he turned first--and he was not catching up to Santana as Santana was running around the bases.  An inning earlier, on a David Wright single to left, Santana nearly ran over Nick Evans coming home from third, as Santana seems to have some wheels.  Too bad that he can't pitch again until Sunday . . . though I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry Manuel use him for an inning on Friday night against the Marlins (his "throw day").  The Phillthies lost when Hole Camels threw a pickoff attempt away, and Prince Fielder hit a walkoff 2-run HR to beat the Pirates.  Mets 1 1/2 back of the Phillthies, and one ahead of the Brew Crew.  Problem for the Mets--they face Carlos "The Animal" Zambrano tonight, and Rich Harden tomorrow.  Both will likely be under strict pitch counts, though.

You need another starter that rhymes with "rain."  "Johan and Maine and pray for rain" just doesn't cut it.   :-)

I was watching them talk about Sabathia on PTI tonight.  The Brew Crew is trying to use him on short rest again.  Without Sheets, they're sunk.  Whichever one of us doesn't have the East this year will have the wild card.  But something hit me... I think the Phils are gonna sign CC in the off-season.  We've got Tom Gordon going away, Adam Eaton going away, Pat Burrell could easily be going away, Kendrick and Happ will be two big question marks, Moyer ain't getting any younger, and Johan will still be a Met for too damn long.  Sure, Hamels and Howard will get arbitration again.  But ya know, we've managed to bank a buck or two with all these sell outs this year.  CC Sabathia is a Phillie next year.  You heard it here first.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 24, 2008, 05:13:10 PM
Johan Santana did exactly what the Mets paid him $137.5 million for.  He pitched pretty well last night, then got a single on a weird broken-bat hit.  He was looking to bunt, drew back, and swung, sawing the bat off about ten inches up.  The head of the bat got in front of the ball, and deflected what would have been a rally-killing double play ball past both the shortstop and the second baseman.  Jose Reyes hit a bases-clearing triple shortly thereafter, and Reyes was flying as he turned first--and he was not catching up to Santana as Santana was running around the bases.  An inning earlier, on a David Wright single to left, Santana nearly ran over Nick Evans coming home from third, as Santana seems to have some wheels.  Too bad that he can't pitch again until Sunday . . . though I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry Manuel use him for an inning on Friday night against the Marlins (his "throw day").  The Phillthies lost when Hole Camels threw a pickoff attempt away, and Prince Fielder hit a walkoff 2-run HR to beat the Pirates.  Mets 1 1/2 back of the Phillthies, and one ahead of the Brew Crew.  Problem for the Mets--they face Carlos "The Animal" Zambrano tonight, and Rich Harden tomorrow.  Both will likely be under strict pitch counts, though.

You need another starter that rhymes with "rain."  "Johan and Maine and pray for rain" just doesn't cut it.   :-)

I was watching them talk about Sabathia on PTI tonight.  The Brew Crew is trying to use him on short rest again.  Without Sheets, they're sunk.  Whichever one of us doesn't have the East this year will have the wild card.  But something hit me... I think the Phils are gonna sign CC in the off-season.  We've got Tom Gordon going away, Adam Eaton going away, Pat Burrell could easily be going away, Kendrick and Happ will be two big question marks, Moyer ain't getting any younger, and Johan will still be a Met for too damn long.  Sure, Hamels and Howard will get arbitration again.  But ya know, we've managed to bank a buck or two with all these sell outs this year.  CC Sabathia is a Phillie next year.  You heard it here first.   :popcorn:

 :mental:

Ya know, Aerosmith wrote a song about that . . .

Quote
Every time that I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face gettin' clearer...
The past has gone
It went by like dusk to dawn
Isn't that the way
Everybody's got their dues in life to pay


Oooh I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it's everybody's sin
You got to lose to know how to win


Half my life's in books written pages
Live and learnin' from fools and from sages
You know it's true
And all the things come back to you


Sing with me sing for the year
Sing for the laughter and sing for the tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow good Lord take you away


Oooh sing with me sing for the year
Sing for the laughter and sing for the tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow good Lord take you away


Oooh... dream on dream on dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on dream on dream on
Dream 'til your dreams come true


Dream on dream on dream on
Dream on dream on dream on
Dream on... aahh ah ah ah ah...


Sing with me sing for the tear
Sing for the laughter sing for the tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow good Lord take you away
Sing a with me sing for the tear
Sing for laughter and sing for the tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow good Lord take you away

Sabathia' s got a home in Northern California.  He'll get $30 mil a year, and even though he'll be wanting a six-plus year deal, he deserves a four-year deal  Reason being that his knees are probably going to give out about then.  That notwithstanding, if Ned Coletti decides to open the checkbook, Sabathia's in Dodger blue.  I'd put the Giants on the list higher than the Phillthies.  Hell, I'd put the Mets higgher on that list, than the Phillthies.  (New stadium, more revenue, etc.)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 05:28:19 PM
Sabathia' s got a home in Northern California.  He'll get $30 mil a year, and even though he'll be wanting a six-plus year deal, he deserves a four-year deal  Reason being that his knees are probably going to give out about then.  That notwithstanding, if Ned Coletti decides to open the checkbook, Sabathia's in Dodger blue.  I'd put the Giants on the list higher than the Phillthies.  Hell, I'd put the Mets higgher on that list, than the Phillthies.  (New stadium, more revenue, etc.)

A lot of Phillies have a home in California.  So what?  And why do you think the Phils are without revenue?  We've been making money hand over fist.  We're not Florida, here.  Our frugal GM is in his last year, too.  The new one has an opportunity to make a bold move.  We took a shot at him before he went to Milwaukee, and we're gonna take a shot at him again.  And are the Dodgers gonna pay for Manny AND Sabathia, considering how well they spent money this year?  It ain't so crazy, don't count us out of the CC Sweeps. 

But that's neither here nor there for the time being.  We've got this division in the palm of our hands now.  We just NEED to beat Atlanta again tonight.  Werth and Burrell better start swinging the bats again.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 05:30:02 PM
Oh, and our stadium is new and spiffy too.  Way to play catch-up  :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 05:34:53 PM
And of course, if it doesn't happen (and if our new GM comes from in-house, it won't), I can always say "Meh... over-paid, over-rated.  Who needs him."  So, for me on a blog, it's a win-win.   :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 07:40:25 PM
FFS Myers!   :banghead:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 24, 2008, 07:57:25 PM
:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:

They can not be serious right now.   :maddernhell:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 24, 2008, 10:31:11 PM
Welp, my hopes for the D-backs are dwindling after tonight's performance. *sighs* I hate this game.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 24, 2008, 10:41:03 PM
Welp, my hopes for the D-backs are dwindling after tonight's performance. *sighs* I hate this game.

I note the absence of WE -- I think he's afraid of putting the kabosh on Big Blue.

I, OTOH, have no such fear.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 24, 2008, 10:55:00 PM
The Mets fell back to a tie with the Brewers in the wildcard race. There were some unhappy fans in the 10th inning.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 24, 2008, 10:59:34 PM
Welp, my hopes for the D-backs are dwindling after tonight's performance. *sighs* I hate this game.

I note the absence of WE -- I think he's afraid of putting the kabosh on Big Blue.

I, OTOH, have no such fear.

Poor WE...am dedicating this one to him, he always starts out so hopeful, then his hopes and dreams are crushed like an empty beer can
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Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 24, 2008, 10:59:50 PM
My head hurts. I hate September.  :argh:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 24, 2008, 11:59:05 PM
6-4 Dodgers, bottom of the 8th.

Hay, we can hope for a freeway Series, can't we?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 25, 2008, 12:00:35 AM
6-4 Dodgers, bottom of the 8th.

Hay, we can hope for a freeway Series, can't we?



shhhhhhh!  the baseball gods can hear you!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 25, 2008, 12:03:29 AM
6-4 Dodgers, bottom of the 8th.

Hay, we can hope for a freeway Series, can't we?



shhhhhhh!  the baseball gods can hear you!
:lmao:
I can't wait until the season is over and you come crawling back like a scalded hound with your tail tucked between your legs
then I can say.."see..what did THEY ever do for you?"...
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 25, 2008, 12:15:02 AM
Are the Padres even trying? Everytime I refresh the page, the Dodgers have another run. Hope WE is enjoying this.  :hammer:  :bawl:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 25, 2008, 12:15:33 AM
Wow -- someone woke the Dodgers up 11-4 still bottom of the 8th.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 25, 2008, 12:16:27 AM
Are the Padres even trying? Everytime I refresh the page, the Dodgers have another run. Hope WE is enjoying this.  :hammer:  :bawl:
I suspect he is superstitious.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 25, 2008, 12:16:45 AM
Wow -- someone woke the Dodgers up 11-4 still bottom of the 8th.

12-4.

Seriously. They are averaging a run every 30 seconds (the frequency in which my Yahoo page refreshes).
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 25, 2008, 12:17:32 AM
6-4 Dodgers, bottom of the 8th.

Hay, we can hope for a freeway Series, can't we?



shhhhhhh!  the baseball gods can hear you!
:lmao:
I can't wait until the season is over and you come crawling back like a scalded hound with your tail tucked between your legs
then I can say.."see..what did THEY ever do for you?"...

After 1 playoff win in 20 years, you really can't hope for disappointment now, can you?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 25, 2008, 12:36:43 AM
Dodgers and Angels both win.

I think that clinches the Angels home field for the playoffs. The big question there: Will they hit 100 wins?

As for the Dodgers, their magic number is 1. They might not break WE's heart after all.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 25, 2008, 01:01:32 AM
Dodgers and Angels both win.

I think that clinches the Angels home field for the playoffs. The big question there: Will they hit 100 wins?

As for the Dodgers, their magic number is 1. They might not break WE's heart after all.

It won't matter what they clich... Boston becomes something else in the post season.  They've got Anaheim tucked away securely in their hip pocket. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 25, 2008, 01:03:25 AM
The Phils have a better chance of shrinking their magic number today, by not even playing, than they do against Washington.   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 25, 2008, 04:19:25 AM
I was asked by a bunch of Yankmes fans today what I'm going to do if the Mets don't make it.  My answer is this:  Deer season starts soon.  :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 25, 2008, 06:40:45 AM
I was asked by a bunch of Yankmes fans today what I'm going to do if the Mets don't make it.  My answer is this:  Deer season starts soon.  :tongue:

You should have asked them how proud they were to close down Yankee Stadium in September.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 25, 2008, 09:35:35 AM
I was asked by a bunch of Yankmes fans today what I'm going to do if the Mets don't make it.  My answer is this:  Deer season starts soon.  :tongue:

You should have asked them how proud they were to close down Yankee Stadium in September.

Thank you for that, Red.  (Who says Phillthies' fans aren't good for anything? :tongue: )
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 25, 2008, 09:37:06 AM
I was asked by a bunch of Yankmes fans today what I'm going to do if the Mets don't make it.  My answer is this:  Deer season starts soon.  :tongue:

You should have asked them how proud they were to close down Yankee Stadium in September.

Thank you for that, Red.  (Who says Phillthies' fans aren't good for anything? :tongue: )

:greet:  I'm just here to speak truth to power, that's all.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 25, 2008, 04:51:21 PM
*ahem*

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the National League Western Division Champions. :)

and they couldn't have possibly been more annoying this season :banghead: :-)



** edited to fix unclear meaning **
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 25, 2008, 04:58:13 PM
Would that be by the DBacks losing to the Cardinals?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 25, 2008, 05:02:50 PM
Would that be by the DBacks losing to the Cardinals?

well, yes, that is how it happened.  but I was referring to the entire season when i said that they were annoying. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 25, 2008, 05:04:56 PM
This years Dodgers are much like last years Cubs team.  They hung around close in second place until the last few weeks before making a charge for first.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Odin's Hand on September 25, 2008, 05:33:52 PM
Phillies vs. Dodgers, huh? That should be wild.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 25, 2008, 05:38:13 PM
Phillies vs. Dodgers, huh? That should be wild.

That assumes that the other series will be Mets v. Cubs.  :tongue: :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 25, 2008, 06:03:07 PM
This years Dodgers are much like last years Cubs team.  They hung around close in second place until the last few weeks before making a charge for first.

The D-backs helped them out a bit by deciding to SUCK the last month and a half.

No offense to the Dodgers or WE. LOL.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 25, 2008, 08:49:41 PM
*ahem*

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the National League Western Division Champions. :)

and they couldn't have possibly been more annoying this season :banghead: :-)



** edited to fix unclear meaning **

Tell me about it.  Well, Ramirez certainly has given them some umph.

It looks like LA has the lo/hi in the playoffs (LAD/LAA).

No matter how much you hate the Angels, a Freeway Series would let us thumb our noses at the sports media bias very, very, very much against all west coast teams.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 25, 2008, 10:49:13 PM
This years Dodgers are much like last years Cubs team.  They hung around close in second place until the last few weeks before making a charge for first.

The D-backs helped them out a bit by deciding to SUCK the last month and a half.

No offense to the Dodgers or WE. LOL.  :-)

no offense taken. :-)

the season turned during the first two weeks of september, give or take.  Az was leading the division by 4 at the end of august, and went into a 3-9 slump, while LA won 10 of 12 to start the month, including a 3 game sweep of the Dbacks in LA.  by september 15, LA was 3.5 games up in the division, and that turned out to be decisive.

two weeks out of a six month long season.  a blink of an eye, really.  baseball is truly a cruel and heartless bitch.

I am just glad that LA isn't going to san fransisco having to win 2 of 3, or something like that.  I was having nightmares about those freaking jint people. :uhsure: :-)


Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 25, 2008, 11:04:11 PM
*ahem*

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the National League Western Division Champions. :)

and they couldn't have possibly been more annoying this season :banghead: :-)



** edited to fix unclear meaning **

Tell me about it.  Well, Ramirez certainly has given them some umph.

It looks like LA has the lo/hi in the playoffs (LAD/LAA).

No matter how much you hate the Angels, a Freeway Series would let us thumb our noses at the sports media bias very, very, very much against all west coast teams.

if the season turned in september, then andre ethier should get a great deal of credit for LA's success.  he hit .455/.543/.697 in september, to manny's .373/.468/.787.  they both OPS'ed about 1.25 for the month, but if manny didn't have an utterly super human SLG for the month, ethier would have posted much better numbers.  and ethier doesn't get much credit for it. 

of course, ethier spent a good part of september hitting in front of ramirez, which oddly coincided with his numbers going insane. :-)

still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

LA got andre ethier straight up in the milton bradley trade with oakland, by the way.  paul depodesta made that trade, if memory serves.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 25, 2008, 11:34:23 PM
*ahem*

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the National League Western Division Champions. :)

and they couldn't have possibly been more annoying this season :banghead: :-)



** edited to fix unclear meaning **

Tell me about it.  Well, Ramirez certainly has given them some umph.

It looks like LA has the lo/hi in the playoffs (LAD/LAA).

No matter how much you hate the Angels, a Freeway Series would let us thumb our noses at the sports media bias very, very, very much against all west coast teams.

if the season turned in september, then andre ethier should get a great deal of credit for LA's success.  he hit .455/.543/.697 in september, to manny's .373/.468/.787.  they both OPS'ed about 1.25 for the month, but if manny didn't have an utterly super human SLG for the month, ethier would have posted much better numbers.  and ethier doesn't get much credit for it. 

of course, ethier spent a good part of september hitting in front of ramirez, which oddly coincided with his numbers going insane. :-)

still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

LA got andre ethier straight up in the milton bradley trade with oakland, by the way.  paul depodesta made that trade, if memory serves.
I didn't understand a single word you said.  Is this little baseball thingee over yet?
come to bed darlin....
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 25, 2008, 11:43:54 PM
*ahem*

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the National League Western Division Champions. :)

and they couldn't have possibly been more annoying this season :banghead: :-)



** edited to fix unclear meaning **

Tell me about it.  Well, Ramirez certainly has given them some umph.

It looks like LA has the lo/hi in the playoffs (LAD/LAA).

No matter how much you hate the Angels, a Freeway Series would let us thumb our noses at the sports media bias very, very, very much against all west coast teams.

if the season turned in september, then andre ethier should get a great deal of credit for LA's success.  he hit .455/.543/.697 in september, to manny's .373/.468/.787.  they both OPS'ed about 1.25 for the month, but if manny didn't have an utterly super human SLG for the month, ethier would have posted much better numbers.  and ethier doesn't get much credit for it. 

of course, ethier spent a good part of september hitting in front of ramirez, which oddly coincided with his numbers going insane. :-)

still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

LA got andre ethier straight up in the milton bradley trade with oakland, by the way.  paul depodesta made that trade, if memory serves.
I didn't understand a single word you said.  Is this little baseball thingee over yet?
come to bed darlin....

'fraid not, dear.  we get extra baseball this year.  I know you're excited. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 26, 2008, 12:03:21 AM
Quote
still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

Nothing succeeds like success.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 26, 2008, 12:07:13 AM
Quote
still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

Nothing succeeds like success.

yeah, but success can't succeed if he never gets an at bat. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 26, 2008, 12:12:29 AM
Quote
still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

Nothing succeeds like success.

yeah, but success can't succeed if he never gets an at bat. :-)

You lost me.  But I am in EDT, so it is > 1:00 AM here...
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 26, 2008, 12:16:31 AM
Quote
still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

Nothing succeeds like success.

yeah, but success can't succeed if he never gets an at bat. :-)

You lost me.  But I am in EDT, so it is > 1:00 AM here...

you only visit EDT.  I live in it. :-)

(I thought you were speaking of ethier's success . . . )
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on September 26, 2008, 12:45:25 AM
*ahem*

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the National League Western Division Champions. :)

and they couldn't have possibly been more annoying this season :banghead: :-)



** edited to fix unclear meaning **

Tell me about it.  Well, Ramirez certainly has given them some umph.

It looks like LA has the lo/hi in the playoffs (LAD/LAA).

No matter how much you hate the Angels, a Freeway Series would let us thumb our noses at the sports media bias very, very, very much against all west coast teams.

if the season turned in september, then andre ethier should get a great deal of credit for LA's success.  he hit .455/.543/.697 in september, to manny's .373/.468/.787.  they both OPS'ed about 1.25 for the month, but if manny didn't have an utterly super human SLG for the month, ethier would have posted much better numbers.  and ethier doesn't get much credit for it. 

of course, ethier spent a good part of september hitting in front of ramirez, which oddly coincided with his numbers going insane. :-)

still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

LA got andre ethier straight up in the milton bradley trade with oakland, by the way.  paul depodesta made that trade, if memory serves.
I didn't understand a single word you said.  Is this little baseball thingee over yet?
come to bed darlin....

'fraid not, dear.  we get extra baseball this year.  I know you're excited. :-)
:banghead:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on September 26, 2008, 12:59:03 AM
Quote
still, joe torre deserves a great deal of credit for starting ethier over pierre on opening day.  not too many managers would have started a kid over a $44M bust that the GM signed, and undoubtedly wanted to see in the lineup every night.

Nothing succeeds like success.

yeah, but success can't succeed if he never gets an at bat. :-)

You lost me.  But I am in EDT, so it is > 1:00 AM here...

you only visit EDT.  I live in it. :-)

(I thought you were speaking of ethier's success . . . )

Yes -- bouncing from PDT to EDT is so much fun.

Let me tell you what I consider to be a great story fragment -- I had the pleasure and thrill of hearing Vin Sculley call the big hits in the last game. 

I cannot begin to tell you the huge emotional response I had.  Vin IS Summer.  The classiest guy to ever sit behind a microphone.  He has been the voice of baseball (not just Dodgers) since I was born.  When I hear his voice, I am 10 years old again, sitting on the porch with a transistor radio hearing Vin (along with the late Jerry Doggett).  And as much as Vin loved and loves the Dodgers, he wasn't a local rooting squad.  He sees the game through the lens of a baseball lover -- and a very, very serious student of the game.

If you get a chance, check out his induction speech into the Hall Of Fame.

The rest of baseball may have wins, Series, stadia -- we have Vin.

We win.


Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 26, 2008, 04:02:08 AM
Pedro got off to a bad start at Shea, but he held the Mets in it for six innings, leaving the game in the seventh with two on and one out.  Ricardo Rincon comes in to face rookie Micah Hoffpauir, and Hoffpauir put the first pitch off the scoreboard in right.  Cubs up 6-3.  At this point, I was disgusted and turned off the game.  Went to bed.  I flip on the 'puter this morning . . . The Mets scored one in the seventh, two in the eighth to tie it (and a heluva "slide" from Ryan Church), and Carlos Beltran scored Jose Reyes with the winning run, on a hit off the aforementioned Micah Hoffpauir's glove, to win it in the bottom of the ninth. 

One game back of the Phillthies.  Tied with the Brewers.  Gonna be a heluva weekend.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: thundley4 on September 26, 2008, 04:19:02 AM
This years Dodgers are much like last years Cubs team.  They hung around close in second place until the last few weeks before making a charge for first.

The D-backs helped them out a bit by deciding to SUCK the last month and a half.

No offense to the Dodgers or WE. LOL.  :-)

The Brewers did that last year also. They couldn't put together a win streak in the last month in '07. 

The Cubs have a chance to knock the Brewers out and let the Mets take the wildcard this weekend.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 26, 2008, 08:26:05 AM
This years Dodgers are much like last years Cubs team.  They hung around close in second place until the last few weeks before making a charge for first.

The D-backs helped them out a bit by deciding to SUCK the last month and a half.

No offense to the Dodgers or WE. LOL.  :-)

The Brewers did that last year also. They couldn't put together a win streak in the last month in '07. 

The Cubs have a chance to knock the Brewers out and let the Mets take the wildcard this weekend.

are the real cubs playing, or are they starting all of their call-ups? 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 26, 2008, 06:06:03 PM
Pedro got off to a bad start at Shea, but he held the Mets in it for six innings, leaving the game in the seventh with two on and one out.  Ricardo Rincon comes in to face rookie Micah Hoffpauir, and Hoffpauir put the first pitch off the scoreboard in right.  Cubs up 6-3.  At this point, I was disgusted and turned off the game.  Went to bed.  I flip on the 'puter this morning . . . The Mets scored one in the seventh, two in the eighth to tie it (and a heluva "slide" from Ryan Church), and Carlos Beltran scored Jose Reyes with the winning run, on a hit off the aforementioned Micah Hoffpauir's glove, to win it in the bottom of the ninth. 

One game back of the Phillthies.  Tied with the Brewers.  Gonna be a heluva weekend.

I am watching your game, BSS.  I have told you before that you turned me into a part-time mets fan this season with your
great posts about your team.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 26, 2008, 06:14:21 PM
I shouldn't have said anything.  pelfrey can't get an out. :thatsright:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 27, 2008, 06:05:32 PM

wow.  there is down the to wire, and then there is down to the wire. 

the NL wild card comes down to the last day of the season.  milwaukee puts the seemingly unbeatable CC Sabathia on the mound against the cubs and zambrano, while the mets put their future on the back of ollie perez.

THIS is down to the wire.  I wouldn't be surprised to see this go to a head to head one game playoff.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 27, 2008, 06:27:38 PM
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Brad Lidge:  It's not just a save, it's an adventure.  Comes in with a two run lead to close out the Nats.  K's the first guy, then screws around and gives up hit after hit with a walk for good measure until it's a one run game, bases loaded with one out.  After being PERFECT all year!  :banghead:  And now Washington's best player is at the plate.  Lidge lays it in and Zimmerman smacks one hard to Rollins' left... and Rollins makes a great dive in the grass to snag it and turn two.  :bow: We'll take that save.  :afro:  And the division, if you please.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 27, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Brad Lidge:  It's not just a save, it's an adventure.  Comes in with a two run lead to close out the Nats.  K's the first guy, then screws around and gives up hit after hit with a walk for good measure until it's a one run game, bases loaded with one out.  After being PERFECT all year!  :banghead:  And now Washington's best player is at the plate.  Lidge lays it in and Zimmerman smacks one hard to Rollins' left... and Rollins makes a great dive in the grass to snag it and turn two.  :bow: We'll take that save.  :afro:  And the division, if you please.   :cheersmate:

congrats on the division championship.  I really didn't think it would turn out the way it did, but I was pretty focussed on my own race.

so, if the mets win the WC, it's LA/Philly and Chicago/NY.  and if milwaukee wins the WC, it's LA/Chicago and Philly/milwaukee, correct?

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 27, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
let's see if LA can actually win one at SF.  they haven't exactly been playing their "A" team for the entire game
since they clinched, but I am really, REALLY glad that this series doesn't matter.

and I will only hear vin scully say, "it's tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime for dodger baseball" one more time this season. :bawl:

on edit : I take it back.  tomorrow's game is being broadcast by the giants' satellite feed on the extra innings package.  I am getting
vin for the last time this season tonight.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 27, 2008, 08:39:59 PM
I should be totally gracious and congratulate you guys on your teams' division wins and what not.

But instead, I would just like to say...

I HATE YOU ALL AND I HATE BASEBALL!!

 :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 27, 2008, 08:44:38 PM
I should be totally gracious and congratulate you guys on your teams' division wins and what not.

But instead, I would just like to say...

I HATE YOU ALL AND I HATE BASEBALL!!

 :-)

I feel your pain, jen.  :wink:

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 27, 2008, 09:11:19 PM

if furcal is healthy for the playoffs, that could seriously change things.  I don't expect him to be in the same form that he was in april, but this changes the batting order significantly.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 27, 2008, 10:38:38 PM
LA wins 2-1. the crowd was chanting "beat LA, beat LA" from the 3rd inning on.  thanks God we didn't have to sweep this series to win the division.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 28, 2008, 05:34:18 AM
Congrats, Red.  The Phillies definitely earned it.  Though, the fact that Lidge has not blown a save all year should be a tad troublesome.  Means that he'll blow (a critical) one in the playoffs, and it just might snowball.

Johan Santana has justified the Mets' expenditures this offseason, in his last two critical starts.  The jury's still out on the Twins' end of the deal, but they are playing for the AL Central Division crown today.  Carlos Gomez has been passable for them.  Humber has not done too well in Rochester, and neither has Kevin Mulvey.  Haven't heard a word about Deolis Guerra.

Ollie Perez goes today, and he tends to respond well in big-game situations.  Ollie's going on three days' rest, and I don't know how well he's done with three days' rest in his career.  If the play-in game is needed on Monday, Pedro Martinez is scheduled to get the start.  For the Brew Crew, CC Sabathia is scheduled to go with three days' rest for the third straight start.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 28, 2008, 11:08:32 AM
Thanks guys :greet:  I love you too, jen  :-*  :tongue:  C'mon, you guys won a ring with my man Curt not too long ago.  Wanna trade places?

What a year it's been.  Congratulations to everyone who made the big dance, especially Tampa Bay.  Welcome to the Show!

Blue, Lidge came a little too close to comfort to blowing his first save a few times this month, but he's either pitched out of it or our defense bailed him out.  ESPECIALLY yesterday... Rollins defense won the game for us, Lidge only "techinically" saved the game.  Mr. Ligths-Out Lidge was just terrible yesterday.  But just read through our Shakespearean tragedy of a sports history, and you'll see we're rightly due some karma points.

Now lets hope Bradley Lights-Out has gotten all his suckage out of his system, and Mr. Whole Camels can benefit from an extra days rest on Thursday.  I'd really rather face Milwaukee first.  I know CC's a horse, but the way they're beating his arm into the ground lately should help us.  But if we have to face LA, so be it.  We've handled everyone who came our way in the NL this year except the Mets.  I remember people promising me Milwaukee and Chicago were gonna come into CBP late in the year and show us what's what.  Uh-huh.  What happened, again?  :popcorn:  We'll take on all comers except the Mets.  At home, on the road... doesn't matter.  We'll set 'em up and lay 'em down except the Mets.  Bring.  It.  On.  Except the Mets.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: formerlurker on September 28, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
Thanks guys :greet:  I love you too, jen  :-*  :tongue:  C'mon, you guys won a ring with my man Curt not too long ago.  Wanna trade places?

What a year it's been.  Congratulations to everyone who made the big dance, especially Tampa Bay.  Welcome to the Show!

Blue, Lidge came a little too close to comfort to blowing his first save a few times this month, but he's either pitched out of it or our defense bailed him out.  ESPECIALLY yesterday... Rollins defense won the game for us, Lidge only "techinically" saved the game.  Mr. Ligths-Out Lidge was just terrible yesterday.  But just read through our Shakespearean tragedy of a sports history, and you'll see we're rightly due some karma points.

Now lets hope Bradley Lights-Out has gotten all his suckage out of his system, and Mr. Whole Camels can benefit from an extra days rest on Thursday.  I'd really rather face Milwaukee first.  I know CC's a horse, but the way they're beating his arm into the ground lately should help us.  But if we have to face LA, so be it.  We've handled everyone who came our way in the NL this year except the Mets.  I remember people promising me Milwaukee and Chicago were gonna come into CBP late in the year and show us what's what.  Uh-huh.  What happened, again?  :popcorn:  We'll take on all comers except the Mets.  At home, on the road... doesn't matter.  We'll set 'em up and lay 'em down except the Mets.  Bring.  It.  On.  Except the Mets.




Excuse me? 


 :bitchslap:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 28, 2008, 11:27:21 AM
Thanks guys :greet:  I love you too, jen  :-*  :tongue:  C'mon, you guys won a ring with my man Curt not too long ago.  Wanna trade places?

What a year it's been.  Congratulations to everyone who made the big dance, especially Tampa Bay.  Welcome to the Show!

Blue, Lidge came a little too close to comfort to blowing his first save a few times this month, but he's either pitched out of it or our defense bailed him out.  ESPECIALLY yesterday... Rollins defense won the game for us, Lidge only "techinically" saved the game.  Mr. Ligths-Out Lidge was just terrible yesterday.  But just read through our Shakespearean tragedy of a sports history, and you'll see we're rightly due some karma points.

Now lets hope Bradley Lights-Out has gotten all his suckage out of his system, and Mr. Whole Camels can benefit from an extra days rest on Thursday.  I'd really rather face Milwaukee first.  I know CC's a horse, but the way they're beating his arm into the ground lately should help us.  But if we have to face LA, so be it.  We've handled everyone who came our way in the NL this year except the Mets.  I remember people promising me Milwaukee and Chicago were gonna come into CBP late in the year and show us what's what.  Uh-huh.  What happened, again?  :popcorn:  We'll take on all comers except the Mets.  At home, on the road... doesn't matter.  We'll set 'em up and lay 'em down except the Mets.  Bring.  It.  On.  Except the Mets.




Excuse me? 


 :bitchslap:

What?  Would you rather it be New York again?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: formerlurker on September 28, 2008, 11:41:56 AM
Thanks guys :greet:  I love you too, jen  :-*  :tongue:  C'mon, you guys won a ring with my man Curt not too long ago.  Wanna trade places?

What a year it's been.  Congratulations to everyone who made the big dance, especially Tampa Bay.  Welcome to the Show!

Blue, Lidge came a little too close to comfort to blowing his first save a few times this month, but he's either pitched out of it or our defense bailed him out.  ESPECIALLY yesterday... Rollins defense won the game for us, Lidge only "techinically" saved the game.  Mr. Ligths-Out Lidge was just terrible yesterday.  But just read through our Shakespearean tragedy of a sports history, and you'll see we're rightly due some karma points.

Now lets hope Bradley Lights-Out has gotten all his suckage out of his system, and Mr. Whole Camels can benefit from an extra days rest on Thursday.  I'd really rather face Milwaukee first.  I know CC's a horse, but the way they're beating his arm into the ground lately should help us.  But if we have to face LA, so be it.  We've handled everyone who came our way in the NL this year except the Mets.  I remember people promising me Milwaukee and Chicago were gonna come into CBP late in the year and show us what's what.  Uh-huh.  What happened, again?  :popcorn:  We'll take on all comers except the Mets.  At home, on the road... doesn't matter.  We'll set 'em up and lay 'em down except the Mets.  Bring.  It.  On.  Except the Mets.




Excuse me? 


 :bitchslap:

What?  Would you rather it be New York again?

No, I would rather Tito played his starters and act like the WS champions they are to take the division.   

Of course, Tito decided to phone it in instead.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 28, 2008, 11:59:52 AM
No, I would rather Tito played his starters and act like the WS champions they are to take the division.   

Of course, Tito decided to phone it in instead.

So you gotta play the Angels first.  Big deal.  You'll smoke them.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 28, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
The Angels are going to have their hands full with the Sawx, and vice versa.  As I might have said in this thread, I'm rather interested in who wins the AL Central. 

In Shea, Ollie tried to make a bare-hand save against a Dan Uggla grounder.  Needless to say, he didn't.  But, he did just shoo away the trainer and Jerry Manuel when they came out to check on him.  He threw a pair of pitches, and said, "Go back to the dugout."  Gotta love that stuff.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: formerlurker on September 28, 2008, 04:08:28 PM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 28, 2008, 05:22:47 PM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:

The worst part is that the Mets will not make any real changes.  Sure, Ollie Perez will jump ship to the highest bidder, and Pedro Martinez will retire, and Moises Alou will as well, and Orlando Hernandez, and Billy Wagner will be gone, but the new guys they bring in won't make a heluva lotta difference.  They really should package Aaron Heilman (who's had a bad knee, supposedly, all year) and Luis Castillo up and move them, putting Argenis Reyes/Ramon Martinez at 2B for next year, and Danny Murphy/Nick Evans in LF.  Bobby Parnell should be in the bullpen.  Eddie Kunz needs to get some time in the pen, as well.

I'm thinking third place in the NL East next year.  I really should have jumped to the Royals like I wanted to do last year.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Red October on September 28, 2008, 05:23:29 PM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:

:lmao:  H5!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: formerlurker on September 28, 2008, 06:14:04 PM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:

The worst part is that the Mets will not make any real changes.  Sure, Ollie Perez will jump ship to the highest bidder, and Pedro Martinez will retire, and Moises Alou will as well, and Orlando Hernandez, and Billy Wagner will be gone, but the new guys they bring in won't make a heluva lotta difference.  They really should package Aaron Heilman (who's had a bad knee, supposedly, all year) and Luis Castillo up and move them, putting Argenis Reyes/Ramon Martinez at 2B for next year, and Danny Murphy/Nick Evans in LF.  Bobby Parnell should be in the bullpen.  Eddie Kunz needs to get some time in the pen, as well.

I'm thinking third place in the NL East next year.  I really should have jumped to the Royals like I wanted to do last year.

You know as sure as I am typing this that k-rod will be a Met next year.     You have no worries (aside from the playoffs that is). 

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: formerlurker on September 28, 2008, 07:50:25 PM
Now that I ponder it, I would like to see a Red Sox/Dodgers WS only to have Beckett knock Manny on his arse at his first at plate.   

Manny it is remarkable how quickly you recovered from your injury.    :afro:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on September 29, 2008, 10:27:20 AM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:

The worst part is that the Mets will not make any real changes.  Sure, Ollie Perez will jump ship to the highest bidder, and Pedro Martinez will retire, and Moises Alou will as well, and Orlando Hernandez, and Billy Wagner will be gone, but the new guys they bring in won't make a heluva lotta difference.  They really should package Aaron Heilman (who's had a bad knee, supposedly, all year) and Luis Castillo up and move them, putting Argenis Reyes/Ramon Martinez at 2B for next year, and Danny Murphy/Nick Evans in LF.  Bobby Parnell should be in the bullpen.  Eddie Kunz needs to get some time in the pen, as well.

I'm thinking third place in the NL East next year.  I really should have jumped to the Royals like I wanted to do last year.

my condolences, BSS.  the mets were one of my adopted teams this season.  baseball is so heartless.  i'm thinking that if billy wagner doesn't go down, it's a completely different result for the mets.

i wonder if cc sabathia can pitch every day . . .  :whatever:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: formerlurker on September 29, 2008, 10:56:06 AM
Quote
"Baseball in Boston is like a Sunday football game, but played every day," Ramirez said. "We lose in LA, I go to breakfast and people say, 'Well, you'll get them tomorrow.' In Boston, it's 'Hey, what's going on, the Yankees are coming.' It's just a different atmosphere. The fans in Boston got your back no matter what, but I'm talking about the people who write all this bull because it means so much to them. If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life."

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/09/manny_bashing_b.html


Ok Manny, so what you are saying is that Boston fans love baseball and the Dodger fans could care less either way.    Gotcha!

Quote
Manny, who is a free agent at the end of the season, on his future with the Dodgers: "I think I can play four or five more years. And the way the division is, the Dodgers can win it the next four or five years, but they have big decisions to make. It just depends on how badly they want to win."


I am so glad he speaks to the media in LA.


:lmao:

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on September 29, 2008, 11:04:30 AM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:

The worst part is that the Mets will not make any real changes.  Sure, Ollie Perez will jump ship to the highest bidder, and Pedro Martinez will retire, and Moises Alou will as well, and Orlando Hernandez, and Billy Wagner will be gone, but the new guys they bring in won't make a heluva lotta difference.  They really should package Aaron Heilman (who's had a bad knee, supposedly, all year) and Luis Castillo up and move them, putting Argenis Reyes/Ramon Martinez at 2B for next year, and Danny Murphy/Nick Evans in LF.  Bobby Parnell should be in the bullpen.  Eddie Kunz needs to get some time in the pen, as well.

I'm thinking third place in the NL East next year.  I really should have jumped to the Royals like I wanted to do last year.

Hey, BSS. If you want to form a support group for disgruntled baseball fans, I'll help.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 29, 2008, 11:52:33 AM
This just in: the Mets have canceled the winter break to get advanced training in the heimlich maneuver. 







 

 :tongue:

The worst part is that the Mets will not make any real changes.  Sure, Ollie Perez will jump ship to the highest bidder, and Pedro Martinez will retire, and Moises Alou will as well, and Orlando Hernandez, and Billy Wagner will be gone, but the new guys they bring in won't make a heluva lotta difference.  They really should package Aaron Heilman (who's had a bad knee, supposedly, all year) and Luis Castillo up and move them, putting Argenis Reyes/Ramon Martinez at 2B for next year, and Danny Murphy/Nick Evans in LF.  Bobby Parnell should be in the bullpen.  Eddie Kunz needs to get some time in the pen, as well.

I'm thinking third place in the NL East next year.  I really should have jumped to the Royals like I wanted to do last year.

my condolences, BSS.  the mets were one of my adopted teams this season.  baseball is so heartless.  i'm thinking that if billy wagner doesn't go down, it's a completely different result for the mets.

i wonder if cc sabathia can pitch every day . . .  :whatever:

Here's a stat for you--if baseball games were 8 innings instead of 9, the Mets win the NL East by 8 games.

Damn straight that Wagner going down killed the Mets.  K-Rod's agent's cell # is on Omar's speed dial.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 01, 2008, 10:27:37 PM
I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning game one was was pretty big.


Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on October 01, 2008, 10:57:37 PM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2008, 11:16:44 PM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!

One more win and the Dodgers will double their post-season output in the last 20 years.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on October 01, 2008, 11:20:35 PM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!

One more win and the Dodgers will double their post-season output in the last 20 years.



 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on October 01, 2008, 11:30:06 PM
 :yawn:
wait..
doesn't POST season mean this crap is over yet?
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 01, 2008, 11:40:14 PM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!

anything can happen in the playoffs, but I'm more realistic;  this is a pretty flawed baseball team.  their starting pitching is a big question mark after #3 in the  rotation, their closer is probably still injured, their setup man can be a head case, and they are very young everywhere they aren't very old.  I hope torre leaves the ethier and kemp in the outfield from here on out, but I am sure we will see juan pierre starting before the series is over.

I'll have to check the splits, but I seem to recall that LA had a tougher time with dempster than zambrano during the regular season. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 01, 2008, 11:46:41 PM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!

One more win and the Dodgers will double their post-season output in the last 20 years.



you realize, of course, that the predictive value of that threadbare little factoid of yours is nil, don't you? :whatever: :tongue:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on October 01, 2008, 11:47:27 PM
 :popcorn:

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Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 01, 2008, 11:49:35 PM
:yawn:
wait..
doesn't POST season mean this crap is over yet?

no, OFFseason means it's over.  POSTseason means the regular season is over.  this "crap", as you put it, could conceivably last until the end of october.  aren't you excited? :hyper:

I knew you would be. :-) :tongue:

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 02, 2008, 07:45:08 AM
Supposedly, there's been internal discussions at Shea/Citi about going after Manny in the offseason.  The prevailing attitude is that it would take a four- to five-year deal to get it done.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Odin's Hand on October 02, 2008, 07:58:37 AM
Supposedly, there's been internal discussions at Shea/Citi about going after Manny in the offseason.  The prevailing attitude is that it would take a four- to five-year deal to get it done.

I would think that finding pitchers whom can locate the strike zone would be their main concern after giving up 590 walks this season.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on October 02, 2008, 08:05:27 AM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!

anything can happen in the playoffs, but I'm more realistic;  this is a pretty flawed baseball team.  their starting pitching is a big question mark after #3 in the  rotation, their closer is probably still injured, their setup man can be a head case, and they are very young everywhere they aren't very old.  I hope torre leaves the ethier and kemp in the outfield from here on out, but I am sure we will see juan pierre starting before the series is over.

I'll have to check the splits, but I seem to recall that LA had a tougher time with dempster than zambrano during the regular season. 

I heard an interesting statistic this morning on sports radio. In the National League, only 4 teams have come back to win the division series after losing the first game. The record is like 24 teams to 4.

In the AL, it's a little more dicey. 14 and 14 was the number I think I heard. So those match-ups are still legitimate toss-ups.

So don't sell you're team short. They are playing the Cubs. The Cubs are great until it matters most. Then they look for something (goat) or someone (Steve Bartman) to blame.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 02, 2008, 08:14:56 AM
Supposedly, there's been internal discussions at Shea/Citi about going after Manny in the offseason.  The prevailing attitude is that it would take a four- to five-year deal to get it done.

I would assume that the mets are a player for manny, especially with colletti and mccourt being so coy when asked about resigning him in LA.  the club option years that were dropped from his contract when he was traded were for $20M a year, so the bidding starts there.  4 years sounds about right, with a club option for a 5th, perhaps.  but when you throw in the scott boras factor, and the deal could get very obscene, very quickly.

he'll turn 37 next may, so you would expect his production to drop off in the next two years.  the dodgers already have $25M per season invested in outfielders that sit on the bench in pierre and jones, so there is a great deal of self inflicted salary cap pressure on the dodgers' roster already.  but if the dodgers manage to advance at all in the playoffs, there will be almost irresistible pressure to resign him.



Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 02, 2008, 08:24:07 AM

I certainly didn't see this one coming. or dempster having control problems, or three home runs by a team that couldn't seem to hit one in a week during the regular season, or 7 runs,  or greg maddux pitching the ninth.  manny ramizrez was all but falling over when he hit his HR in the 7th. srlsy :-)

it's only one game, and the cubs are still the best team in the NL by far.  and it doesn't get any easier tomorrow with zambrano on the mound.  but winning one in chicago was crucial.  winning the game was was pretty big.




I predicted this at TOS. I said the Dodgers would surprise everyone and the Cubs would choke as expected. It's the postseason, baby!

anything can happen in the playoffs, but I'm more realistic;  this is a pretty flawed baseball team.  their starting pitching is a big question mark after #3 in the  rotation, their closer is probably still injured, their setup man can be a head case, and they are very young everywhere they aren't very old.  I hope torre leaves the ethier and kemp in the outfield from here on out, but I am sure we will see juan pierre starting before the series is over.

I'll have to check the splits, but I seem to recall that LA had a tougher time with dempster than zambrano during the regular season. 

I heard an interesting statistic this morning on sports radio. In the National League, only 4 teams have come back to win the division series after losing the first game. The record is like 24 teams to 4.

In the AL, it's a little more dicey. 14 and 14 was the number I think I heard. So those match-ups are still legitimate toss-ups.

So don't sell you're team short. They are playing the Cubs. The Cubs are great until it matters most. Then they look for something (goat) or someone (Steve Bartman) to blame.

yeah, I heard that being tossed around last night, but I'm not buying it.  that's most likely because the higher seeded playoff team has home field advantage, so the opening game is played at the higher seeded team's ballpark.  home field advantage is pretty huge in baseball, of course.  so, it just logically follows that the higher seeded team will win the series.  the fact that the team that wins the opening game also wins the series is more of a result of something else than an cause of success.  I'm not sure why the AL is so rampantly illogical. :-)

I'm not sellin' them short, jen.  I probably watched 140 of the 162 dodgers games this season;  I just know where the bodies are buried. :-) 

and I just want it stipulated for the record, and in deference to the baseball gods, that it wasn't me that just used the-word-that-starts-with-a-"c"-and-rhymes-with-"poke" in reference to the cubs. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 02, 2008, 11:13:03 PM
Supposedly, there's been internal discussions at Shea/Citi about going after Manny in the offseason.  The prevailing attitude is that it would take a four- to five-year deal to get it done.

I would think that finding pitchers whom can locate the strike zone would be their main concern after giving up 590 walks this season.

The story I heard was that they're going to look in-house for bullpen help (Bobby Parnell, Eddie Kunz used properly) and maybe go after someone like A.J. Burnett.  Hell, I would absolutely love to see them sign CC, but it ain't happening.  They're nuts.  I've also heard Brian Fuentes' name being discussed.  They absolutely need a closer, and I'm hoping K-Rod fills the bill.
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 03, 2008, 08:57:05 AM

the dodgers have a closer problem.  I suspected that saito wasn't 100% after being on the DL for a month with a partially torn ligament in his pitching elbow*.   his september ERA is 4.76 and his WHIP is 1.8, which are about twice his career numbers.  I suppose it could be rust, but he has struggled mightily since his return to the lineup.  last night's game should have ended 10-1, but saito couldn't get an out in the ninth, allowing 2 runs on 3 hits, all very hard hit balls.  broxton came in with a man on second and was saved from giving up a run and allowing the thing to get a little complicated when berroa speared a screaming line drive that was headed for the gap in right center.  the moral of this story is that the 8th and 9th innings are going to be very stressful in a close game.

on the upside, having furcal back in the lineup and hitting in the leadoff spot has transformed the dodgers batting order almost as dramatically as having ramirez hitting 3rd. okay, that is an exaggeration, but the alternative, angel berroa, is 3 semi-automatic outs per game. 

I'm not sure what to expect saturday night.  the dodgers haven't faced harden this season, although kuroda has been effective against the cubs in the two games that he started against them.  and the dodgers are running out of freakish ways (7 walks wednesday night, 4 errors and 5 unearned runs last night) of beating chicago.


*initial reports were that he may require tommy john surgery, in which case he would have been done for this season and next season.  but he underwent some sort of new cutting edge procedure that involved injecting concentrated platelets into his elbow, and made a miraculous recovery. 
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on October 03, 2008, 11:54:51 AM

I'm not sure what to expect saturday night.

Expect a win, my pessimist friend. ;) Believe!
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 03, 2008, 01:49:58 PM

I'm not sure what to expect saturday night.

Expect a win, my pessimist friend. ;) Believe!

I am indeed pessimistic, but philosophically prepared to be pleasantly surprised. :wink:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: jendf on October 03, 2008, 01:57:24 PM

I'm not sure what to expect saturday night.

Expect a win, my pessimist friend. ;) Believe!

I am indeed pessimistic, but philosophically prepared to be pleasantly surprised. :wink:

Off-topic: I was going to use that picture but then decided on the heels instead. I'm glad I did. That would have been awkward.  :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 03, 2008, 02:00:00 PM

I'm not sure what to expect saturday night.

Expect a win, my pessimist friend. ;) Believe!

I am indeed pessimistic, but philosophically prepared to be pleasantly surprised. :wink:

Off-topic: I was going to use that picture but then decided on the heels instead. I'm glad I did. That would have been awkward.  :-)

LOL!  yeah, it woulda been. 

I looked to see if anyone had beaten me to it before I made it my AV. :-)
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 04, 2008, 10:11:28 PM
could it happen tonight?

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: morningAngel on October 04, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
 :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 04, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
they have 1st and 3rd
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 04, 2008, 10:57:19 PM
I would think that finding pitchers whom can locate the strike zone would be their main concern after giving up 590 walks this season.

i need six outs


Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 05, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
we win!!!

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 05, 2008, 12:22:50 AM
the dodgers sweep . ..

 . . . gettin ready for the PHILS
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 10, 2008, 05:13:59 PM

apparently, the dodgers weren't ready enough.  after a great ballgame last night, where the only error committed by either team provided the margin of victory, the dodgers are utterly sucking tonight.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 10, 2008, 06:05:49 PM
good heavens.  the jammed him with the pitch, and ramirez STILL hit it out.

Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 10, 2008, 06:44:26 PM

despite the encouraging 3 run HR by manny, the Dodgers are about to go home down 0-2. :(
Title: Re: the nl east and the nl west will be a RACE down to the wire.
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 16, 2008, 12:08:36 PM
and that's a wrap. :(

the series was over in the 8th inning of game 4, when the dodger bullpen collapsed, giving up four runs and the lead.  that loss pinned our hopes on being able to hit cole hamels, which is a very bleak future indeed.  the 3 errors and 2 unearned runs in the 5th last night didn't help matters much, but the dodgers were finished last night before they ever stepped out of the dugout.

congrats to the phils.  I will pull for you in the WS, even if you get the rays, most of whom I watched learn how to hit when they all played for the single-A charleston riverdogs.


oh, and now it's over, mA . . . more or less :wink: