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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2012, 12:08:06 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on May 22, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
If you say so, Trip.

How very noble of you, Trip.

Bully for you, Trip.

I'm sure you think you do, Trip.

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Throttle it back, Trip.

Physician, heal thyself first.

I know that I would personally take someone calling me "ignoramus" to my face as pretty blatantly disrespectful. If a Private said it to me today, they'd be standing in front of the Commander's desk tomorrow getting NJP.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #76 on: May 22, 2012, 12:09:22 PM »
Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 12:07:47 PM
Good thing the facts and the truth are not affected by a poll among idiots.


You specified "idea" not a fact or truth. Even an idiot like you regard me can see that, can you ?
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #77 on: May 22, 2012, 12:12:10 PM »
Are these stupid, juvenile pissing contests going to happen in every thread? I'm not a mod, but sheesh.

Take it to the fight club. Do us all a favor and leave the rest of us out of your petty side arguments. It's getting tiring. I dont' think we need to see post-whoring side arguments in every damn thread.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #78 on: May 22, 2012, 12:17:58 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on May 22, 2012, 12:09:22 PM
You specified "idea" not a fact or truth. Even an idiot like you regard me can see that, can you ?


The "idea" that our rights are unalienable, unable to be taken from us, nor even given away, is a fundamental fact of the Constitution.   The "idea" that our military swears an oath to uphold that Constitution, and not the authority of government, or any office holder, is also a fact.  

The fact that a member of our military believes our rights are alienable, able to be taken, is in fact a very disturbing "idea", especially to those who are paying attention to the repeated and now escalating actions of this administration.










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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #79 on: May 22, 2012, 12:21:36 PM »
This is the idea I am referring to, to quote you...
"The idea that I in any way was "bashing" the troops is thoroughly ludicrous, and offensive."
That "idea" is not a fact, or a truth. Can you see what this "idiot" is referring to now ?
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #80 on: May 22, 2012, 12:25:09 PM »
Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 12:04:33 PM
The idea that I in any way was "bashing" the troops is thoroughly ludicrous, and offensive.

Quote from: Trip
...a Government Issue ignoramus...

...those who do serve with honor and real appreciation for this country...

If you say so, Trip.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #81 on: May 22, 2012, 12:29:30 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on May 22, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
If you say so, Trip.

So I recognize those who do serve with honor and a real appreciation of this country, and somehow this is "bashing" the military?   *Right*



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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #82 on: May 22, 2012, 12:31:30 PM »
Quote from: docstew on May 22, 2012, 12:08:06 PM
I know that I would personally take someone calling me "ignoramus" to my face as pretty blatantly disrespectful. If a Private said it to me today, they'd be standing in front of the Commander's desk tomorrow getting NJP.

None of my kids (troopers) would have dared say the things to me (nor insinuate) what Trip has about TX.  

None.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #83 on: May 22, 2012, 12:31:39 PM »
Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 12:07:47 PM
Good thing the facts and the truth are not affected by a poll among idiots.

Every sane American should be deeply disturbed by the fact that any member of our military believes our rights to be "alienable", able to be taken from us, by the government authority which that military represents.





Seems to me that you're calling the entire membership of this forum, "idiots". You just might want to reconsider that statement, Trip. I most certainly take offense to that statement! I'm certain that others do, too.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #84 on: May 22, 2012, 12:42:01 PM »
Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 12:29:30 PM
So I recognize those who do serve with honor and a real appreciation of this country, and somehow this is "bashing" the military?   *Right*

I suggest, Trip, that you reread the rules of the website I quoted concerning active duty members and veterans.  Pay particularly close attention to the word "all"; the one I bolded and italicized for you.

Either way, it's no longer up to me to decide whether it was "right" or "wrong". 

I can tell you for a fact that a know nothing civilian, who tries to use past association with real men of honor to burnish his own, has no place calling anyone in uniform an ignoramus nor insinuating that their service is anything but honorable.

That, sir, makes you less than the filth that inhabits DU. 

You have no right, nor perspective, to question the service of any veteran since you did not have the balls to ruck up and stand the line yourself.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #85 on: May 22, 2012, 12:44:55 PM »
I grow weary of this too and would rather not have to keep chasing threads or locking them. :banghead:
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #86 on: May 22, 2012, 12:53:14 PM »
Quote from: Thor on May 22, 2012, 12:31:39 PM
Seems to me that you're calling the entire membership of this forum, "idiots". You just might want to reconsider that statement, Trip. I most certainly take offense to that statement! I'm certain that others do, too.

So you think the entire membership of this forum, thinks that I was bashing the military, when I clearly said I hold them in high regard?

I specifically said, ". It is out of an abiding respect to those who do serve with honor and real appreciation for this country... "

My comment only applies to the hypothetical poll, and presumption of the polling results to indicate that I was in any way "bashing the military", which I obviously was not doing.  Since no one voted on any poll, and I was not bashing the military, I'm not calling anyone an idiot, and there's no cause for  anyone to get defensive.



ETA: as a matter of fact, I am on the phone this very moment, with one of my best friends, a Viet Nam vet.


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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #87 on: May 22, 2012, 12:59:02 PM »
Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
Government Issue ignoramus that has sought to harass since my arrival on the forum

This is the part in question, where you all but identify TRG and call him an ignoramus (and the snarky tone that is carried with your use of Government Issue is another one).

STFU. GFY. ESAD.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #88 on: May 22, 2012, 01:01:23 PM »
Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 12:29:30 PM
So I recognize those who do serve with honor and a real appreciation of this country, and somehow this is "bashing" the military?   *Right*


With the snarky insinuation that I don't...therefore I'm not worthy of the same appreciation.

You REALLY can't handle people who disagree with you and challenge your view of the world can you Trip?
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2012, 01:06:45 PM »
You've been given multiple opportunities to be a positive contribution to this board but as it's been pointed out to you more than once, you just can't seem to participate here without pissing people off.  We are getting tired of cleaning up the messes you seem to leave behind whenever you decide to pay us a visit.

Your "General Issue ignoramous" comment is a violation of the rules of conduct and a slap in the face to every veteran and active duty military here.  Your constant derailing of threads, resulting in them being locked or deleted, has passed the point of being disruptive. 

Your membership is no longer wanted here.  Goodbye.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2012, 01:22:00 PM »
Damn...what I was preapred to say before chris_ got to him...



There was an honest dispute of:

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As I stated previously, "natural born" originates in Natural Law, not man-made Positive Law. This profoundly indicates that you won't find help for your ignorant theory anywhere in man-made statute!

Which in turn lead to the inexplicable non-sequitor of insults:

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What? You don't want to defend your theory that the Constitution is  not based on "unalienable rights"? I'm sure that onlookers here are not resting easy about that oath you swore to defend the Constitution, since you evidently believe the federal government is able to forfeit our rights without any violation of that Constitution.

There is no reason to insult the service of TxRadioGuy as if he is unworthy based on a single discussion. Certainly no person is expected to have a SCOTUS-level opinion of the minutae of legal history and theory as a precondition of enlistment; let alone a mandatory agreement Chief Justice Douchebag here.

If you want to belittle every person that dares to disagree with you then understand you will isolate yourself until A) you leave or B) you're banned. Either way the result is the same. If by some stretch of the imagination you thought you could enlighten us poor, benighted "idiots" then perhaps you are only setting yourself up for failure and frustration. Leave and save yourself the melodramatic martyrdom of banning.

Unless that is your true objective then go ahead and start penning your magnum opus now in preparation for your grandest, most exquisite display of your know-it-all brilliance.

We rubes are waiting like so many primates at a fireworks display.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2012, 01:24:21 PM »
At last. Another one's gone.

Thank you. Chris.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #92 on: May 22, 2012, 01:24:27 PM »
Rube 1 standing by...
(referring to post 90)
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #93 on: May 22, 2012, 01:26:56 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on May 22, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Damn...what I was preapred to say before chris_ got to him...

It's okay, SGT Bunny Rabbit, I'm sure he'll read it.
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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #94 on: May 22, 2012, 04:55:42 PM »
How did I miss this?

Quote from: Trip on May 22, 2012, 12:53:14 PM
ETA: as a matter of fact, I am on the phone this very moment, with one of my best friends, a Viet Nam vet.

Trip, in the event you happen to wander by and haunt this thread, I want you to know that is the most lame assed thing I have ever seen in defense of something so stupid.
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"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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Re: The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet:
« Reply #95 on: May 22, 2012, 08:29:08 PM »
I hate to see anyone get banned, but in this case I can see why.
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