Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 08:19 PM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3545605)
House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/30/black-republicans-launch_n_110042.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/30/black-republicans-launch_n_110042.html)
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 08:23 PM
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2. One is on Abrams now
Tara spin the Wall. The other leading asshole is Michelle Bernard who admitted on CSpin that she's a black Republican.
Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 08:38 PM
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3. Of course. It pays better. Can you imagine the money thrown at these
people who are willing to sell their souls, and their bretheren down the river? We know they can be bought, we learned that lesson from Armstrong Williams. I'm black, and I hate them more than the average Republican because I know they're just in it for the money.
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4. I don't see it that way
In every group they are people who will sell their mother, let alone anyone else, for money.
Many think this is their chance for a grand life...greedy opportunists. **** all of them.
skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 08:46 PM
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5. It seems like over half of the "republican analysts" on tv are black...
That's so ****ed up, because you know not that many black people vote republican.
Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 08:49 PM
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6. Sort of like a Chickens for Colonel Sanders movement...
Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:20 PM
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22. I think your post is racist...
I may disagree with their choices but they are free people and they are free to choose as they like they are certainly not slaves as you imply.
Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:25 PM
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25. You have free will to think whatever you want.
It's a figure of speech and if you don't get what I was trying to get across then there's no hope for you.
Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
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29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
Scratch a liberal, find a racist.
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
Yes they do. Most of them are still upset over the end of slavery and are jusr extending it politically. Leave the plantation, they send the dogs out.
Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
Fixed.
Can you clarify what you mean by the plantation part?
Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
Can you clarify what you mean by the plantation part?
Really? No kidding?
Plantaiton = Democrat Party.
Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
And they all belong to one political party.
Beyond telling them they are no different than any other American with the same opportunities to succeed or fail...Republicans don't try to tell them how any minority to live.
Republicans where I'm at do.
I can't figure out how to get out of the quote.
What offends me about what the DUers are saying is that they seem to think they know what's best for blacks by saying who they should vote for. Saying they're "house negros" so to speak.
So what's the difference between saying they're a slave for the Republican Party and saying they're a slave to the Democrat party because they don't vote your way?
What offends me about what the DUers are saying is that they seem to think they know what's best for blacks by saying who they should vote for. Saying they're "house negros" so to speak.
So what's the difference between saying they're a slave for the Republican Party and saying they're a slave to the Democrat party because they don't vote your way?
Well for starters...one is factually accurate...the other is not.
Not to mention the fact that you don't see Republicans on discussion boards...in the or political cartoons going around referring to minorities by ugly ethnic slurs if they don't vote for Republicans.
What offends me about what the DUers are saying is that they seem to think they know what's best for blacks by saying who they should vote for. Saying they're "house negros" so to speak.
So what's the difference between saying they're a slave for the Republican Party and saying they're a slave to the Democrat party because they don't vote your way?
Well for starters...one is factually accurate...the other is not.
Not to mention the fact that you don't see Republicans on discussion boards...in the or political cartoons going around referring to minorities by ugly ethnic slurs if they don't vote for Republicans.
And they say its the Republicans that are racist? That looks alot like a leftist Democrat to me.
shireen (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-30-08 10:05 PM
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16. what's insane is the state of our economy
brought to us by REPUBLICANS.
Republicans who voted for financial reasons were the mega-rich. They've made off like bandits in the past 8 years. As far as I'm concerned, they are traitors because they've sacrificed the well-being of our country for their own selfish needs.
Republicans who voted for for social reasons, which is most people who voted for Bush, are not in the same category. I believe they are generally good patriotic people who care deeply about our country. They got caught up in the web of lies and manipulation that the thugs are so good at.
I swear reading DU is like seeing into the mind of the insane. It is YOU who are being manipulated and you are too stupid to see it.
Oh my. That is all.
Why do I have a funny feeling that Robert Byrd has a solution for these "House Negros" that fail to follow the party line. Do these idiots not understand that term should be disgusting to any thinking person? Black person that walks off the Democrat Plantation = race traitor?
Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
Fixed.
Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
"house negroes"? Who, since 1949 talks like that? Racist PsOs.
What offends me about what the DUers are saying is that they seem to think they know what's best for blacks by saying who they should vote for. Saying they're "house negros" so to speak.
So what's the difference between saying they're a slave for the Republican Party and saying they're a slave to the Democrat party because they don't vote your way?
Well for starters...one is factually accurate...the other is not.
Not to mention the fact that you don't see Republicans on discussion boards...in the or political cartoons going around referring to minorities by ugly ethnic slurs if they don't vote for Republicans.
I find it ironic that a bunch of DUmmies who probably can't even rub two nickels together seem to believe they have a clue as to what's best for other people economically.
And libs treat blacks poorly, and many blacks let them. I'm to the point where I believe they deserve each other.
.
Nothing like a bunch of white people thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
And no, it's not bigoted to vote your interests because we all do it. Elderly people do it. Military people do it. College students do it. Lots of people do it.Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan (not Ameican) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan ^Arab (not American) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
The 95%+ support for hussein by Black voters exposes the racism we all knew was there.
And it is truly sad.
I stand corrected.Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan ^Arab (not American) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
The 95%+ support for hussein by Black voters exposes the racism we all knew was there.
And it is truly sad.
corrected.
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan ^Arab (not American) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
The 95%+ support for hussein by Black voters exposes the racism we all knew was there.
And it is truly sad.
corrected.
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
Do they? Apparently the numbers don't show that as the majority of black people have been snowed into voting Dem and their plight has only gotten worse over the past 40 years. Care to debate it? ....with facts, this isn't DU, with facts.
OK, my correction stands corrected. ;)Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan ^Arab (not American) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
The 95%+ support for hussein by Black voters exposes the racism we all knew was there.
And it is truly sad.
corrected.
His father wasn't an Arab, unless you think all Muslims are Arab. I'm sure the Persian Iranians would be to differ.
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.
I'm to the point where I could give a rat's ass about the Black Liberal Population. I'm just sick to death of seeing my conservative black brothers and sisters ostracized by the ****ing liberal leeches, both white AND black.
Nothing like a bunch of white people thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
Of course you are right. Being responsible for your own actions, taking advantage of opportunities to become prosperous, being free to have your own opinions -- these are certainly different for Black people than for Whites. Better to have handouts, have bad decisions subsidized and rewarded, to be held down by lowered expectations, and to be taken for garnted and looked upon with contempt and pity as being too stupid to think for one's self.
Shuffle much?
Quote from: LanieAnd no, it's not bigoted to vote your interests because we all do it. Elderly people do it. Military people do it. College students do it. Lots of people do it.Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan (not Ameican) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
The 95%+ support for hussein by Black voters exposes the racism we all knew was there.
And it is truly sad.
Are you stereotyping black people here? Because you might be interested in knowing that whites are on welfare more often than blacks.
A valid stereotype would probably be to say that most or many welfare recipients are single mothers. They come in all races.
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
Do they? Apparently the numbers don't show that as the majority of black people have been snowed into voting Dem and their plight has only gotten worse over the past 40 years. Care to debate it? ....with facts, this isn't DU, with facts.
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.
I'm to the point where I could give a rat's ass about the Black Liberal Population. I'm just sick to death of seeing my conservative black brothers and sisters ostracized by the ******* liberal leeches, both white AND black.
Hey, here's a plan, if I'm elected ruler I'll do away with race, in terms of color, etc., and make race based on ideology. Liberal, conservative, Libertarian, etc., will be the new races. Then I'll institute genocide against the liberal race. :stirpot:
Are you stereotyping black people here? Because you might be interested in knowing that whites are on welfare more often than blacks.
A valid stereotype would probably be to say that most or many welfare recipients are single mothers. They come in all races.
Not by percentage of population. You lose.
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
Do they? Apparently the numbers don't show that as the majority of black people have been snowed into voting Dem and their plight has only gotten worse over the past 40 years. Care to debate it? ....with facts, this isn't DU, with facts.
Jews, women, younger people, older people, and others are also known for voting Democrat. Are you going to claim you know what's best for them too?
And yes, I would like to debate it with facts. Subjects I'd like to cover is who is normally on welfare, reasons blacks give for voting Democrat, and others. What topics am I missing?
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.
I'm to the point where I could give a rat's ass about the Black Liberal Population. I'm just sick to death of seeing my conservative black brothers and sisters ostracized by the ******* liberal leeches, both white AND black.
Hey, here's a plan, if I'm elected ruler I'll do away with race, in terms of color, etc., and make race based on ideology. Liberal, conservative, Libertarian, etc., will be the new races. Then I'll institute genocide against the liberal race. :stirpot:
Jews,.....
women, ...
younger people,
older people, and others are also known for voting Democrat. Are you going to claim you know what's best for them too?
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.
I'm to the point where I could give a rat's ass about the Black Liberal Population. I'm just sick to death of seeing my conservative black brothers and sisters ostracized by the ******* liberal leeches, both white AND black.
Hey, here's a plan, if I'm elected ruler I'll do away with race, in terms of color, etc., and make race based on ideology. Liberal, conservative, Libertarian, etc., will be the new races. Then I'll institute genocide against the liberal race. :stirpot:
What was that censored word?
The Democratic plantation, which has captured all races, but a huge number of blacks:
Can you clarify what you mean by the plantation part?
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
I don't do this often, but you go up to 100 for that post, Mrs. Smith.:yahoo:
Nothing like a bunch of white people thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
Of course you are right. Being responsible for your own actions, taking advantage of opportunities to become prosperous, being free to have your own opinions -- these are certainly different for Black people than for Whites. Better to have handouts, have bad decisions subsidized and rewarded, to be held down by lowered expectations, and to be taken for garnted and looked upon with contempt and pity as being too stupid to think for one's self.
Shuffle much?
Are you stereotyping black people here? Because you might be interested in knowing that whites are on welfare more often than blacks.
A valid stereotype would probably be to say that most or many welfare recipients are single mothers. They come in all races.
Billionaires for Bush (if there was ever such a thing) did not represent 95%+ of the White population.Quote from: LanieAnd no, it's not bigoted to vote your interests because we all do it. Elderly people do it. Military people do it. College students do it. Lots of people do it.Voting for someone exclusively because of the color of his/her skin is racist. To suggest that a Black man who was raised as white with a Kenyan (not Ameican) father somehow presents the idea that "will work in the black person's interest" as specious at best.
The 95%+ support for hussein by Black voters exposes the racism we all knew was there.
And it is truly sad.
What are Billionaires for Bush? What was that group about? To me, it sounds like a bunch of rich people who felt that a rich Republican understood their interests in not being taxed to death. Were they classist for voting their interests?
Billionaires for Bush (if there was ever such a thing) did not represent 95%+ of the White population.
Billionaires for Bush (if there was ever such a thing) did not represent 95%+ of the White population.
Wait a minute, you didn't get your billion-dollar bank account when you, as a white guy, turned 18? :confused:
At least tell me you got the shopping spree, platinum Visa, and Ferrari.
I don't do this often, but you go up to 100 for that post, Mrs. Smith.
More like since The War on Poverty. Which seems to have only increased poverty.QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
Well, you gotta know that the learned this kind of behavior from Democrats past. Blacks aren't free to think for themselves, work for themselves, vote for themselves. This just shows that the Democrat ownership mentality has yet to be broken after almost 150 years.
The basic problem Dems have with thinking they are right is they think in an infantile, symbolic thought system, which is why they can claim they are for diversity when they demand nothing but conformity.
What offends me about what the DUers are saying is that they seem to think they know what's best for blacks by saying who they should vote for. Saying they're "house negros" so to speak.
So what's the difference between saying they're a slave for the Republican Party and saying they're a slave to the Democrat party because they don't vote your way?
Well for starters...one is factually accurate...the other is not.
Not to mention the fact that you don't see Republicans on discussion boards...in the or political cartoons going around referring to minorities by ugly ethnic slurs if they don't vote for Republicans.
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
As for not calling them ethnic slurs *on the internet*, I'll give you that.
Really it is only two kinds of people here, reactive and impulsive who tend to vote Democrat when they vote and those who are thoughtful and use reason to come to decisions who tend to vote Conservative Republican.So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
Do they? Apparently the numbers don't show that as the majority of black people have been snowed into voting Dem and their plight has only gotten worse over the past 40 years. Care to debate it? ....with facts, this isn't DU, with facts.
Jews, women, younger people, older people, and others are also known for voting Democrat. Are you going to claim you know what's best for them too?
And yes, I would like to debate it with facts. Subjects I'd like to cover is who is normally on welfare, reasons blacks give for voting Democrat, and others. What topics am I missing?
2003 Poverty guidelines for Alaska
Size of family unit Poverty guideline
1 $11,210
2 15,140
3 19,070
4 23,000
5 26,930
6 30,860
7 34,790
8 38,720
One, black middle-class votersSnip
currently do not base their votes predominantly on economic criteria
but on a combination of fiscal self-interest and social issues of
black-middle class interest. And, two, with enough time passing for a
generation of black-middle class children to be raised from birth as
middle-class, or outside poor urban communities, they will begin to
vote more conservatively on social issues and base their votes
predominantly on issues of economic self-interest.
So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.
although I will admit most on welfare voted Dem
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
lthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)
...
Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.
The Democratic plantation, which has captured all races, but a huge number of blacks:
Can you clarify what you mean by the plantation part?
First, Welfare. Give them just enough to sort-of get by, but never enough to have anything really nice. Never let them actually own anything. Penalize them for earning money by working (most on "welfare" are actually in several programs - ADC, Food Stamps, Medicare, Heating Assistance, etc. For every 2 dollars earned, they lose 1 dollar in benefits...from each program.) Never let them earn enough to get off the government dollar, tell them that "The Man" will never be fair to them anyway, lie about who really cares and get those Dem votes.
Second, the school system, largely run by liberal Democrats. (The NEA supports something like 99% to 1% Democrat to Republican candidates). If we think most public schools suck, how much more do the schools in predominantly welfare areas suck? Deny the ones who care the financial assistance with a private school (they might choose a Christian school, can't have that!! :thatsright:) Continue to let standards slide into the mud. Refuse to discipline the problem kids, turn in parents that care enough to discipline their kids, and pretend like a tough school is one that has kindergarden kids arrested for kissing each other. Deny energetic young children any recesses, and see how much they learn! :banghead:
Third, the liberal dream, Planned Parenthood...located predominantly in poor neighborhoods, willing to kill as many kids as possible...(which can be funded with federal dollars, unlike those scary Christian schools where kids are actually taught how to do weird stuff like read and write.) Gloat over the fact that a hugely disproportionate number of black infants are slaughtered every year, though most libs are quite happy with anything that will decrease the population.
Fourth, the rampant drug and gang culture. Like this is any surprise...take away their ability to get a starting job (got to get minimum wage up high enough that kids don't have a chance), take away their discipline, take away their educational opportunities, remove their fathers from the home through "free love" and government policies, tell them that it's "whitey" keeping them down, tell the girls that the government will send them money every month if they have a kid and the boys that they aren't needed for anything but their sperm and child support (now there's a good incentive for getting a job...hand it all over to the ex for the kid that may or may not be yours.) Stir and watch violence and drugs take over the whole area. Gloat over all the promising young lives ended by gunfire, knives, or prison sentences. Then point self-righteously at the whole mess and blame it on the Republicans because they don't support government healthcare, and think all people would be better off truly free and able to earn their way to self-respect.
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/welfare
For people with little to no income.
Just an example of who is considered to be poverty level or below it is Alaska.
http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/882/Poverty-POVERTY-THEN-NOW.htmlQuote2003 Poverty guidelines for Alaska
Size of family unit Poverty guideline
1 $11,210
2 15,140
3 19,070
4 23,000
5 26,930
6 30,860
7 34,790
8 38,720
I would think the average family does not go past three kids, so 23K or less? That’s even if the person is making that much. Often, I don’t think they are after taxes.
Now, who are politicians targeting as voters and who normally votes?
Don't they normally talk about the "middle class"?
According to this poll, voters in the last election who made under 30K were only 23 percent. The remaining 78 percent were above 30K a year. Therefore, the majority of Dem voters can’t possibly be voting for Dems to stay on welfare. Most of them are not on welfare (although I will admit most on welfare voted Dem).
“Liberal†source. Sorry.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Breaking down the black vote some.
http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/8/2/4/6/p82462_index.htmlQuoteOne, black middle-class votersSnip
currently do not base their votes predominantly on economic criteria
but on a combination of fiscal self-interest and social issues of
black-middle class interest. And, two, with enough time passing for a
generation of black-middle class children to be raised from birth as
middle-class, or outside poor urban communities, they will begin to
vote more conservatively on social issues and base their votes
predominantly on issues of economic self-interest.
So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.
Racial politics has so dominated welfare reform efforts that it is commonplace to observe that "welfare" has become a code word for race. When Americans discuss welfare, many have in mind the mythical Black "welfare queen" or profligate teenager who becomes pregnant at taxpayers' expense to fatten her welfare check. Although most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). It is likely, then, that the current campaign to slash funding for welfare programs, couched in a rhetoric that condemns welfare's social harms and recipients' irresponsibility, reflects a worsening racial crisis in America. At the same time, the exclusion from the mainstream debate of any consideration of enhancing public assistance to the poor signifies the resounding defeat of a progressive welfare ideal.
QuoteSo middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.
And yet, 95%+ are voting for hussien. You prove the opposite of what you wanted to prove. Even in the face of your facts about Blacks voting fromother interests, they are clearly voting skin color.
However, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes.
Need I go on? This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
Where did that "five year" number come from? I'm not saying that you're wrong because I don't honestly know the time limit, if any.
I have, however, been working in my current profession for 22 years. During those 22 years, the same group of guys (about my age AND able to work) have spent almost every single day sitting beneath the same oak tree drinking beers as I drive past going about my business. Granted, it could very well be that they are all independently wealthy and just choose to live in a run-down neighborhood, but I kind of doubt it.
QuoteSo middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.
And yet, 95%+ are voting for hussien. You prove the opposite of what you wanted to prove. Even in the face of your facts about Blacks voting fromother interests, they are clearly voting skin color.
I thought this was about whether they were voting for the one who would keep them supplied in welfare checks.
Hey, MORON known as "Lanie", who said "most" of the welfare recipients are black? We're talking percentages per population between whites and black. It really isn't that hard.
Hone up on your Googlefu. :whatever:
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
Huh? You need to read ALL the words:Quote from: your freaking sourcelthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)
...
Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.
Need I go on? This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I have gone google crazy.
Can you show me where you found that most blacks are on welfare or at least most voting blacks?
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/welfare
For people with little to no income.
Just an example of who is considered to be poverty level or below it is Alaska.
http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/882/Poverty-POVERTY-THEN-NOW.htmlQuote2003 Poverty guidelines for Alaska
Size of family unit Poverty guideline
1 $11,210
2 15,140
3 19,070
4 23,000
5 26,930
6 30,860
7 34,790
8 38,720
I would think the average family does not go past three kids, so 23K or less? That’s even if the person is making that much. Often, I don’t think they are after taxes.
Now, who are politicians targeting as voters and who normally votes?
Don't they normally talk about the "middle class"?
According to this poll, voters in the last election who made under 30K were only 23 percent. The remaining 78 percent were above 30K a year. Therefore, the majority of Dem voters can’t possibly be voting for Dems to stay on welfare. Most of them are not on welfare (although I will admit most on welfare voted Dem).
“Liberal†source. Sorry.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Breaking down the black vote some.
http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/8/2/4/6/p82462_index.htmlQuoteOne, black middle-class votersSnip
currently do not base their votes predominantly on economic criteria
but on a combination of fiscal self-interest and social issues of
black-middle class interest. And, two, with enough time passing for a
generation of black-middle class children to be raised from birth as
middle-class, or outside poor urban communities, they will begin to
vote more conservatively on social issues and base their votes
predominantly on issues of economic self-interest.
So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.
I did not see anything that would give an indication as to the percentages in relation to population percentages.
Having said that there is an admission that there is a disproportionate (higher then proportionate to percentage of the population by the context) of single black mothers.
Those are not my words but the text of that link...QuoteRacial politics has so dominated welfare reform efforts that it is commonplace to observe that "welfare" has become a code word for race. When Americans discuss welfare, many have in mind the mythical Black "welfare queen" or profligate teenager who becomes pregnant at taxpayers' expense to fatten her welfare check. Although most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). It is likely, then, that the current campaign to slash funding for welfare programs, couched in a rhetoric that condemns welfare's social harms and recipients' irresponsibility, reflects a worsening racial crisis in America. At the same time, the exclusion from the mainstream debate of any consideration of enhancing public assistance to the poor signifies the resounding defeat of a progressive welfare ideal.
The point of that screed is not to address the detriment to the community whether it be specifically black or the overall but to accuse any mention of it as being racists.
This fixes nothing or helps no one.
As long as leftists are content to keep the status quo regarding that situation by subsidizing poverty and pandering to hopeless dreams which require no effort or responsibility there will never be an improvement to the situation.
You can call that racist if it suits the purpose of prolonging the misery for political reasons but it does not show an ounce of compassion or concern.
It is phony and hypocritical.
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
Huh? You need to read ALL the words:Quote from: your freaking sourcelthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)
...
Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.
Need I go on? This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.
QuoteHowever, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes.
Once again you are wrong. That is only the case in a handful of municipalities -- mostly states that don't have income tax.
This isn't a money issue -- it is a cultural issue.
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
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Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
I have gone google crazy.
Can you show me where you found that most blacks are on welfare or at least most voting blacks?
:lmao: See? Just like a liberal, she's TOTALLY missing the point.
Since you're not educated enough to understand this by reading articles and studies, I'll simplify it for you:
Blacks comprise about 12% of the US.
Whites comprise 70+%
OF COURSE THERE ARE MORE WHITE ON WELFARE! THAT'S not the issue. The issue is percentages. What are the percentages of blacks on welfare vs. whites? I.e., astronomically higher.
Clear enough? If not, lemme know and I'll break out the crayons and Blue HorseTM paper.
I understand that part. I'm asking you to show it to me. Show me where most blacks are on welfare and/or that most VOTING blacks are on welfare. Can you do that?
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
Huh? You need to read ALL the words:Quote from: your freaking sourcelthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)
...
Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.
Need I go on? This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.
It's one thing to have those opinions about poverty (another subject). It's another to make it a black thing. At least Mrs. Smith admitted it wasn't just blacks, but all races. My sources show that the blacks it is affecting a certain way just happen to be poor. My sources also show that blacks who are middle class are looking at the issues differently then they are. My sources also show that most voters are not even eligable for welfare.
California.QuoteHowever, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes.
Once again you are wrong. That is only the case in a handful of municipalities -- mostly states that don't have income tax.
This isn't a money issue -- it is a cultural issue.
Can you tell me of a state that doesn't base it on that?
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
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Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
I understand that part. I'm asking you to show it to me. Show me where most blacks are on welfare and/or that most VOTING blacks are on welfare. Can you do that?
I can, but I won't. I prefer you to remain ignorant. ...that is, if you don't want to do the research for yourself. :whatever:
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
Huh? You need to read ALL the words:Quote from: your freaking sourcelthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)
...
Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.
Need I go on? This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.
I didn't say MOST Blacks are on Welfare -- in fact the welfare discussion is a side bar. But the more you thrash the more you get dragged down into the tar pits of facts.
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
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Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
Oh give me a break. I can't answer everybody because I'm missing too many posts because they're all going at once.
I think that anybody who thinks that blacks should vote their way believes blacks should not think on their own. Anybody who respects how a black person votes (Republican or Dem) respects a black person's right to think on their own. Obviously, anybody who doesn't like Jesse Jackson can respect a black person's right to think on their own as long as they respect their right to agree or disagree with them.
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
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Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
Oh give me a break. I can't answer everybody because I'm missing too many posts because they're all going at once.
I think that anybody who thinks that blacks should vote their way believes blacks should not think on their own. Anybody who respects how a black person votes (Republican or Dem) respects a black person's right to think on their own. Obviously, anybody who doesn't like Jesse Jackson can respect a black person's right to think on their own as long as they respect their right to agree or disagree with them.
I've been googling for a while. If I can't find it, then maybe it's not there.
Don't you want me to vote for McCain?
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.
http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm
Snip.
This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?
Huh? You need to read ALL the words:Quote from: your freaking sourcelthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)
...
Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.
Need I go on? This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.
I didn't say MOST Blacks are on Welfare -- in fact the welfare discussion is a side bar. But the more you thrash the more you get dragged down into the tar pits of facts.
So if most blacks are not on welfare necessarily, then what is the problem again?
I'm hungry. Be back later.
....and the POINT of this is, what in the **** have liberal policies done for the black community? Answer? Subjected them.
Maybe Lanie/Bridget will suffer the fate of these people at the hands of those she so tries to protect:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,9505.0.html
I'm sure they'll go easy on her once she tells them she's "working" for them. Seemed to work for the North Carolina girl who was supporting Obama. :whatever:
(http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/images/cda01-04tab1.gif)
This was done in 1999. AFDC being Welfare.
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
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Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
Oh give me a break. I can't answer everybody because I'm missing too many posts because they're all going at once.
I think that anybody who thinks that blacks should vote their way believes blacks should not think on their own. Anybody who respects how a black person votes (Republican or Dem) respects a black person's right to think on their own. Obviously, anybody who doesn't like Jesse Jackson can respect a black person's right to think on their own as long as they respect their right to agree or disagree with them.
Was that a Hope post or a Change post?
I do respect Blacks' ability to think for themselves. I maintain that thinking is based on ethnic racism, not logic. The numbers are hard to refute, especially since hussein has yet to make a substantial stand on anything. There is certainly nothing there that is specific to the Black experience.
The amount on AFDC is only 27 percent. That's not even half of the black population here. And I wonder how many of them vote.
However, the rest of it is very discouraging. I agree with that.
I also think we should do things to help them get out of those situations. Any chance we can agree on some of that and form common ground?
Oh, and thank you.
I've been googling for a while. If I can't find it, then maybe it's not there.
Don't you want me to vote for McCain?
BTW, if this is the case, either you're A) Ignorant, or B) too lazy to look. I searched and came up with 11+ pages of links.
The amount on AFDC is only 27 percent. That's not even half of the black population here. And I wonder how many of them vote.
Again, who said "most"?QuoteHowever, the rest of it is very discouraging. I agree with that.
Yeah, THANK YOU DEMOCRATS! :thumbs:
Wasn't like this when they were Republicans decades ago.
QuoteI also think we should do things to help them get out of those situations. Any chance we can agree on some of that and form common ground?
Oh, and thank you.
Why the **** should "we", as conservatives, do a damn thing? They've called us "white devils", "evil", etc. Maybe they need to reassess whom their voting for. We ARE trying to do SOMETHING. We're trying to get them to vote conservative. Not too much success there.
Obama has taken stands on issues. It's experience he lacks.
Maybe the conservatives should do something to make blacks realize they want to work for them as well as whites. Blacks think the Dem party takes them for granted. There is a way to build from that, but it's not telling them that they're slaves for being Dems.Do why do Blacks sit back and not approval when they call successful people like Colin Powell, Condi, Bill Cosby and pretty much every Black person who has made it in mainstream politics or economics a "house nigga?"
Obama has taken stands on issues. It's experience he lacks.
Quite often two or three stands on the same issue.
He really IS the change candidate.
You gave me the Heritage Foundation, criticized to be a conservative source. I decided to take it anyway. As for your argument about liberal policies, I'd like to argue differently, but not necessarily tonight.
Maybe the conservatives should do something to make blacks realize they want to work for them as well as whites. Blacks think the Dem party takes them for granted. There is a way to build from that, but it's not telling them that they're slaves for being Dems.
Obama has taken stands on issues. It's experience he lacks.
Quite often two or three stands on the same issue.
He really IS the change candidate.
Hey, Lanie -- did you Ignore me?
Tell asdf -- he loves everyone!
Quote from: LanieMaybe the conservatives should do something to make blacks realize they want to work for them as well as whites. Blacks think the Dem party takes them for granted. There is a way to build from that, but it's not telling them that they're slaves for being Dems.Do why do Blacks sit back and not approval when they call successful people like Colin Powell, Condi, Bill Cosby and pretty much every Black person who has made it in mainstream politics or economics a "house nigga?"
Ever read the books by Colin Powell? Perhaps more young Black people should do so to understand what Conservatism offers them.
But that won't happen, because it is written by an Uncle Tom. Better to follow the race pimps like Jackson and Sharpton.
How can anyone break the cycle of poverty when their leaders get rich on it? And when all but the most astute get dragged down by it?
Obama has taken stands on issues. It's experience he lacks.
Quite often two or three stands on the same issue.
He really IS the change candidate.
Hey, Lanie -- did you Ignore me?
Tell asdf -- he loves everyone!
Love is a STRONG word dude! :-)
I just know better than to try to argue a Morman out of their falacies and to try to argue a Liberal out of their stupidities. Anyone seriously supporting Obama is a step down from a UFO cultist on the reasonability scale.
Maybe the conservatives should do something to make blacks realize they want to work for them as well as whites. Blacks think the Dem party takes them for granted. There is a way to build from that, but it's not telling them that they're slaves for being Dems.
No, conservatives work on issues, not race. We're not Damn liberals. We don't place people in ******* categories. Our policies are ones of self-reliance. Sorry if it doesn't fit most of the black community. Sure fits pretty well for Allen West, Thomas Sowell, Lee Elder, Walter Williams, and Bo Snerdley.
Obama has taken stands on issues. It's experience he lacks.
Quite often two or three stands on the same issue.
He really IS the change candidate.
Hey, Lanie -- did you Ignore me?
Tell asdf -- he loves everyone!
Love is a STRONG word dude! :-)
I just know better than to try to argue a Morman out of their falacies and to try to argue a Liberal out of their stupidities. Anyone seriously supporting Obama is a step down from a UFO cultist on the reasonability scale.
Please find the post where I said I was supporting Obama. Thanks.
So you are supporting McCain then?
OUTstanding.
Do you want some campaign stuff to pass out?
The blacks I know seem to get offended when Democrat whites say offensive things about certain blacks.
Can you tell me of a state that doesn't base it on that?
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong.
You realize they think they're right too, right?
I think blacks know what's best for black interests.
The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).
As for not calling them ethnic slurs *on the internet*, I'll give you that.
The blacks I know seem to get offended when Democrat whites say offensive things about certain blacks.
Yet they are still going to vote for Barakstar!.
They are perpetuating their own situation.
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong.
Bridget I don't think I'm right on this...I know I'm right.
Then if that was the case...you wouldn't see things like what we brought over from your buddy David's vapid little website.
If the black population of this country as a whole were allowed to vote in what is truly their best interest...the race pimps that call themselves "leaders" of the black community wouldn't intimidate coerce and almost threaten people to vote for the Democrat Party.
People like Condi Rice, Rodney Paige, Collin Powell and J.C. Watts, Thomas Sowell and other conservatives would be championed and celebrated in the black community...instead they are the subject of raciel epiteths....cartoons and smears I'd only read about in history books.
It's ok to have a political cartoon of Dr. Rice portrayed as an Aunt Jemima type...but it's not ok to question comments made by Michelle Obama?
Riiiiiight. That's why there are so many people living in the inner city that have spent their entire adult life on welfare.
:whatever:
Anywhere Bridget. I've gone years...YEARS without hearing anyone I know use any kind of ethnic slur.
So don't try to insinuate that it's something that isn't done on the internet in public...but done in the privacy of like minded company.
Ok, now explain this:Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.Really Bridget? What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks. :banghead:
Fixed.
Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
Oh give me a break. I can't answer everybody because I'm missing too many posts because they're all going at once.
I think that anybody who thinks that blacks should vote their way believes blacks should not think on their own. Anybody who respects how a black person votes (Republican or Dem) respects a black person's right to think on their own. Obviously, anybody who doesn't like Jesse Jackson can respect a black person's right to think on their own as long as they respect their right to agree or disagree with them.
Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.
It's called voting for what they think is the better of the two evils.
Notice black votes have increased lately.
They don't speak for most or all blacks anymore than people like David Duke speak for whites. PLEASE say you realize that.
Uh, I'd like to see this coercion, threatening, and intimidation. As I said earlier, many blacks are not involved in politics except in their own groups. Not a lot of room for intimidation and there sure isn't any room for threats.
What makes you think they're not championed by black people? I remember when the idea of Collin Powell becoming President came up, he beat Dole and I think Clinton in the polls. Made Bob Dole mad. My black roommate took offense to somebody insulting Rice once even though she was complaining about Bush winning a few days beforehand.
You're thinking mostly of white, elitist Dems. You need to learn the difference between the different types of lefties.
:whatever:
Do a lot of those people vote?
I just heard the n word get used about two weeks ago. About a month or two ago, I heard anti-Jewish crap. I always hear anti-Mexican stuff. Doesn't matter if they're Democrat or Republican. Many people where I'm at are racists. I am in a red area though. I think it's more about location than party.
Don't try to tell me it's not being done in private when I'm hearing it.
They don't speak for most or all blacks anymore than people like David Duke speak for whites. PLEASE say you realize that.
But your compadres at DU join the Hallelujah Chorus in smearing anyone of color that is conservative or Republican.
Point out to me the last time anyone on a mainstream Republican website backed up what David Duke says when he goes into racist mode?QuoteUh, I'd like to see this coercion, threatening, and intimidation. As I said earlier, many blacks are not involved in politics except in their own groups. Not a lot of room for intimidation and there sure isn't any room for threats.
Vote or die?
Insinuating that Republicans let black churches burn.
The derision and flat out racial hatred directed towards any person of color that does NOT toe the Democrat party line.
Telling them they are sellouts...Uncle Toms and traitors to the race if they don't vote Democrat.QuoteWhat makes you think they're not championed by black people? I remember when the idea of Collin Powell becoming President came up, he beat Dole and I think Clinton in the polls. Made Bob Dole mad. My black roommate took offense to somebody insulting Rice once even though she was complaining about Bush winning a few days beforehand.
Really? Was she upset about the Ted Rall catrtoons? What about the insidious comments made by your fellow travelers at DU? have you shown her what people say over there?
One off hand comment by someone you claim is your room mate doesn't refute what I said. ALl you have to do is look at the media to see who are the alleged black "leaders"...none of them are named Rice, Paige, Watts, Sowell, or Powell.QuoteYou're thinking mostly of white, elitist Dems. You need to learn the difference between the different types of lefties.
A Liberal is a Liberal is a Liberal. All elitist whether they have the money to back up their arrogance or not.Quote:whatever:
Thank you for proving to me what a sheltered pampered life you've lived. Typical of a Liberal...you have this typical country club lib view of what goes on in the inner city of America.
You need to get out in the world little girl...you're in for an eye opening experience.QuoteDo a lot of those people vote?
You tell me. You're the one making all of these wild assed claims.QuoteI just heard the n word get used about two weeks ago. About a month or two ago, I heard anti-Jewish crap. I always hear anti-Mexican stuff. Doesn't matter if they're Democrat or Republican. Many people where I'm at are racists. I am in a red area though. I think it's more about location than party.
You SAY you are in a "red" area. Excuse me if I'm not convinced.QuoteDon't try to tell me it's not being done in private when I'm hearing it.
So you say. :whatever:
If that kind of stuff is being said by people that you associate with...then why do you still associate with them?
I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.
I have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.
All libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.
Since I'm convinced that you're not going to chop me up into a million pieces, I'd be willing to tell you some stuff in private that should convince you of my location. You'd have to hang out here a few weeks though for the proof that they're really a certain way. As for why I associate myself with them, what the hell am I supposed to do? Switch jobs? Oh wait. I am in the middle of switching jobs. Maybe I should switch churches. Oh wait. I did. Maybe I should have went to the school board growing up and demanded I be allowed to change schools. It's everywhere in this town, and unfortunately I'm stuck here at the moment. It won't stay that way though because I'm not happy here.
Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.
That would be a first.QuoteI have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.
That you know of.QuoteAll libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.
They are ALL the same. All cut from the same cloth. ALl of the belief that every right we have every liberty we have comes from the government...not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. All Libs are of the midset that this country would be better off if we were more like Europe...right down to their Socialist underpinnings. They are all anti-free trade...anti-gun and pro abortion.
That you don't see that is what is truly pathetic here.
Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
^lanie your quote tags seem to be messed up. I'm not sure what you were trying to say so I don't want to modify it. You'll need to do that so your post is clearer.
Thanks! Dixiebelle
I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.
That would be a first.QuoteI have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.
That you know of.QuoteAll libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.
They are ALL the same. All cut from the same cloth. ALl of the belief that every right we have every liberty we have comes from the government...not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. All Libs are of the midset that this country would be better off if we were more like Europe...right down to their Socialist underpinnings. They are all anti-free trade...anti-gun and pro abortion.
That you don't see that is what is truly pathetic here.
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.
That would be a first.QuoteI have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.
That you know of.QuoteAll libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.
They are ALL the same. All cut from the same cloth. ALl of the belief that every right we have every liberty we have comes from the government...not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. All Libs are of the midset that this country would be better off if we were more like Europe...right down to their Socialist underpinnings. They are all anti-free trade...anti-gun and pro abortion.
That you don't see that is what is truly pathetic here.
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
Don't forget where you are!
I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.
That would be a first.QuoteI have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.
That you know of.QuoteAll libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.
They are ALL the same. All cut from the same cloth. ALl of the belief that every right we have every liberty we have comes from the government...not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. All Libs are of the midset that this country would be better off if we were more like Europe...right down to their Socialist underpinnings. They are all anti-free trade...anti-gun and pro abortion.
That you don't see that is what is truly pathetic here.
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
Don't forget where you are!
I don't scare easily, and this is actually Lanielite.
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
You've crashed and burned badly in that department before Bridget.
Why do you want to embarrass yourself like that again?
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
You've crashed and burned badly in that department before Bridget.
Why do you want to embarrass yourself like that again?
I never actually tried to have fun with you before. Difference. lol.
If all libs are anti-gun, then why do some libs own guns? Why do I see DUers discussing it?
If all libs are pro-choice, then....
Why do I know Dems who are anti-abortion?
Why do I know people who are liberal in every area but abortion?
If all libs are anti-free trade, then what was Bill Clinton all about?
Shhh . . . I missed it the first time. :naughty:
If all libs are anti-gun, then why do some libs own guns?
If all libs are anti-gun, then why do some libs own guns? Why do I see DUers discussing it?
If all libs are pro-choice, then....
Why do I know Dems who are anti-abortion?
Why do I know people who are liberal in every area but abortion?
If all libs are anti-free trade, then what was Bill Clinton all about?
And Democrats believe in equality -- except equality for minorities. Democrats believe minorities are stupid and helpless (and no fair counting Jews and Orientals as minorities). Democrats believe affirmative action programs are necessary for all minorities except minorities that have yarmulkes or chop sticks; they need quotas to keep too many of them from getting into Berkeley. Otherwise, say Democrats, we'll never have true equality in an America where everyone has the same opportunity -- to be a Democrat.
The pact creating a North American free-trade zone was President Bill Clinton's signature accomplishment; but NAFTA is also the bugaboo of union leaders, grassroots activists and Midwesterners who blame free trade for the factory closings they see in their hometowns.
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It's called voting for what they think is the better of the two evils.
So staying on welfare and being told that they can't achieve anything in life without the aid of the Federal Government is BETTER than being told you can do anything you want to do regardless of the color of your skin if you only apply yourself?
What kind of effed up pretzel logic is that?QuoteNotice black votes have increased lately.
Link?
Shhh . . . I missed it the first time. :naughty:
You'll get your wish.
She never learns.
If all libs are anti-gun, then why do some libs own guns? Why do I see DUers discussing it?
Who? Other than for photo ops when have you seen a Lib politician hold a gun much less use one or come out in favor of the 2nd Amendment?
How many Liberals were cheering the Heller decision last week?
As for your fellow DUmmies...I haven't seen one yet capable of telling the truth.QuoteIf all libs are pro-choice, then....
Why do I know Dems who are anti-abortion?
Why do I know people who are liberal in every area but abortion?
Who? Name one.QuoteIf all libs are anti-free trade, then what was Bill Clinton all about?
You talking about NAFTA or his selling of military grade technology to China?
You DO realize don't you that his trade policies and draconian laws where business is concerned is what has forced so many companies to outsource their employees to India.
Why did his administration allow the Enron debacle to happen?
If he was so free trade and free market...why did he let his wife attempt to hijack the field of Healthcare?
Name one positive thing he did for the small business people of this country?
The National Rifle Association, the powerful arm of the gun lobby, has noticed the shift in positions of Democratic candidates. The percentage of money donated by the NRA to Democratic House and Senate candidates has more than doubled, from 6 percent in the 2002 election cycle to 14 percent so far in the 2006 cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Carl Forti, a spokesman for the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee, said the two parties still have a values gap on gun rights. And he said that the GOP isn't worried about losing to pro-gun rights Democrats in rural areas. ''We have had pro-gun Democrats before, and we have defeated them," Forti said.
As I said upstream, we must assume that Blacks don't want equality nor opportunity. They like being patted on the head by their democratic party massas. Whites can't understand that.
I'm to the point where I could give a rat's ass about the Black Liberal Population. I'm just sick to death of seeing my conservative black brothers and sisters ostracized by the ******* liberal leeches, both white AND black.
Hey, here's a plan, if I'm elected ruler I'll do away with race, in terms of color, etc., and make race based on ideology. Liberal, conservative, Libertarian, etc., will be the new races. Then I'll institute genocide against the liberal race. :stirpot:
What was that censored word?
Turn off your censor and find out yourself.
QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist? At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason. I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype. I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.
I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
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I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
If you're twenty and not a liberal you have no heart. If you're forty and not a conservative you have no brain. You are simply maturing Miss Mia.
Why does she have to be a Republican? She's becoming a conservative, like me. :-)
**** the Republicans. Sorry.
If you're twenty and not a liberal you have no heart. If you're forty and not a conservative you have no brain. You are simply maturing Miss Mia.
:cheersmate: Here's to never having had a heart in my life. :p
Why does she have to be a Republican? She's becoming a conservative, like me. :-)
**** the Republicans. Sorry.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
If you're twenty and not a liberal you have no heart. If you're forty and not a conservative you have no brain. You are simply maturing Miss Mia.
:cheersmate: Here's to never having had a heart in my life. :p
Why does she have to be a Republican? She's becoming a conservative, like me. :-)
**** the Republicans. Sorry.
*sigh*
I remember when Republican were Conservatives. The golden era.
Not again in our lifetimes. We let the liberals run with the agenda and now most politicians need to be liberals to succeed (or so they believe).
*sigh* *sigh*
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
Seriously Mia, we wont tell a soul that you are a closet republican. We can wait for you to come out.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
Seriously Mia, we wont tell a soul that you are a closet republican. We can wait for you to come out.
ehh, I won't be surprised if I eventually move that way. *shrug* I do say I'm a "moderate."
Plus, I'm just happy I started a thread that's now at 13 pages! w00t!
QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist? At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason. I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype. I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
Lanie......You could never offend me and I know racist comments when I hear them. I take one thing back, I have had people I know say racist things.....when I hear it I no longer put myself in a situation to be around them. It's just not a common occurrence, why does it seem to happen so frequently to liberals?
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
Seriously Mia, we wont tell a soul that you are a closet republican. We can wait for you to come out.
ehh, I won't be surprised if I eventually move that way. *shrug* I do say I'm a "moderate."
Plus, I'm just happy I started a thread that's now at 13 pages! w00t!
Actually you could just embrace your beliefs from both sides of the aisle and tell people you swing both ways!
:-)
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
There's my little conservative. :-)
Aren't you proud, I know I am. :-)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
Seriously Mia, we wont tell a soul that you are a closet republican. We can wait for you to come out.
ehh, I won't be surprised if I eventually move that way. *shrug* I do say I'm a "moderate."
Plus, I'm just happy I started a thread that's now at 13 pages! w00t!
Actually you could just embrace your beliefs from both sides of the aisle and tell people you swing both ways!
:-)
Why does she have to be a Republican? She's becoming a conservative, like me. :-)
**** the Republicans. Sorry.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
Why does she have to be a Republican? She's becoming a conservative, like me. :-)
**** the Republicans. Sorry.
Okay, that was worth high-5ing. lol.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Why does she have to be a Republican? She's becoming a conservative, like me. :-)
**** the Republicans. Sorry.
Okay, that was worth high-5ing. lol.
That that was worth a BS from me.
Just kidding! :p
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
I wasn't commenting on what you said. I did read this thread.
I was commenting on the fact that this country has changed their viewpoint, to the extent that the left wing has encouraged it, from melting pot to multiculturalism.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!
I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
You see, you're selling out your own kind if you make something of yourself and provide a safe, loving home for your children. All the homies in lock-down have no choice but to steal and deal drugs... after all they can't be expected to "act white," can they?
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!
I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose.
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
You see, you're selling out your own kind if you make something of yourself and provide a safe, loving home for your children. All the homies in lock-down have no choice but to steal and deal drugs... after all they can't be expected to "act white," can they?
I totally hear you. Choices peeps, choices. It's hard to rise up from bad choices made early in life. Drugs, teenage pregnancy, gang-banging, all bad stuff. I don't care what color you are.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!
I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose.
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
I have to say, it's hilarious when you say "cracka man." LOL
I live in the suburbs, in a very diverse neighborhood. Well, it's mostly hispanic and white, but I've seen a few black families as well.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!
I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose.
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
Tell me you used a thesaurus or something.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
Jesus Lanie, let it go. No one cares what you think.
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!
I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose.
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
Tell me you used a thesaurus or something.
I did not, is it a real word? My mom always accuses me of making words up - she calls it Schade-lish. :-)
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
Jesus Lanie, let it go. No one cares what you think.
Let idiotic twists of my words go? Uh, no.
You're lucky I'm letting the debate go after it was never proven that most blacks voting Dem are doing it to stay on welfare.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
If you don't think I said it, then okay.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
Jesus Lanie, let it go. No one cares what you think.
Let idiotic twists of my words go? Uh, no.
You're lucky I'm letting the debate go after it was never proven that most blacks voting Dem are doing it to stay on welfare.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
If you don't think I said it, then okay.
So as one cracka to another..... I am tired of 'race' being made a centerpiece of this election. Can we just debate the issues and may the best man win?
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
So as one cracka to another..... I am tired of 'race' being made a centerpiece of this election. Can we just debate the issues and may the best man win?
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
yes, yes ladies. I see how it is.
I'm putting you both on my List.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
Jesus Lanie, let it go. No one cares what you think.
Let idiotic twists of my words go? Uh, no.
You're lucky I'm letting the debate go after it was never proven that most blacks voting Dem are doing it to stay on welfare.
I'm lucky? LOL
I was going to apologize for saying no one cares what you think but now I'm taking it back before I even say it. :p
My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs. Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime.
I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.
*snot* I totally can picture you saying that. :-)
LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE
I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!
I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose.
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
Tell me you used a thesaurus or something.
I did not, is it a real word? My mom always accuses me of making words up - she calls it Schade-lish. :-)
Oh, it's a word. Guffaw is a word too. I had a hearty guffaw at the thought of Schade speaking Schadelish.
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.
So as one cracka to another..... I am tired of 'race' being made a centerpiece of this election. Can we just debate the issues and may the best man win?
This obviously can't happen... if it did, the man running primarily on his race wouldn't stand a frickin' chance.
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.
I'm sorry, what did you just say? :p
Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. :)
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.
I'm sorry, what did you just say? :p
Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. :)
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.
Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.
Jesus Lanie, let it go. No one cares what you think.
Let idiotic twists of my words go? Uh, no.
You're lucky I'm letting the debate go after it was never proven that most blacks voting Dem are doing it to stay on welfare.
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.
I'm sorry, what did you just say? :p
Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. :)
Sorry, BEG, Lanie has made an accusation that I twisted his/her words. It just ain't so and it doesn't change the underlying argument -- that liberals are racist and we have many exemplars, up ti and including Lanie's own words (not the one he/she said I "twisted").
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I didn't say you said that. I did say you said that only Blacks can understand Black needs (and by extension those are different than White, Latino, etc.).
I just noted that the credo of liberalism is that people are defined by their ethnicity not their actions. If the shoe fits...
Just offer some facts....that will do it.
I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.
That would be a first.QuoteI have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.
That you know of.QuoteAll libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.
They are ALL the same. All cut from the same cloth. ALl of the belief that every right we have every liberty we have comes from the government...not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. All Libs are of the midset that this country would be better off if we were more like Europe...right down to their Socialist underpinnings. They are all anti-free trade...anti-gun and pro abortion.
That you don't see that is what is truly pathetic here.
Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.
Don't forget where you are!
I don't scare easily, and this is actually Lanielite.
nobody is trying to scare you!
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.QuoteThen she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
That's presume to know what I think.
BTW, if you think I was rude, then you need to grow a thicker skin. I haven't been rude, I've been matter of fact. I was a member of CU, I know who you are. I didn't engage you there, just as I wasn't talking to you in the first place here.
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.QuoteThen she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
That's presume to know what I think.
BTW, if you think I was rude, then you need to grow a thicker skin. I haven't been rude, I've been matter of fact. I was a member of CU, I know who you are. I didn't engage you there, just as I wasn't talking to you in the first place here.
No, that's not saying what you think. That's assuming that if you read my posts then you know what I said.
If you don't want me saying what you think, maybe you should return the favor. I'll be happy not to engage you here. I have a horrible feeling you're like a certain other poster. Won't go to names, but the poster was known for being buds with the conservatives and lashing out at the libs. I didn't care much for her. That's not to say you should be friends with me, but you acted like her just now.
I'm supposed to be letting this go, so I'll leave it at this clarifying post.
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete.Yes they do.
Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people".No they don't. They say "Out of all the applicants some are minorities -- PUT THEM AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE AND REQUIRE LESS OF THEM." This isn't an assertion -- this is the specific POLICIES enacted by Liberals. Those SPECIFIC POLICIES are racist on their face -- and support of the ideology behind those policies is thus racist as well.
Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.Please prove that Bush used skin color or sexual orientation as a basis for any of his appointments. He chose the best people for the positions, IRRESPECTIVE of color.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
yes, yes ladies. I see how it is.
I'm putting you both on my List.
On your list to "CHORTLE"?
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism. The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second. Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American.
We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.
Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.
Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.
I didn't say you said that. I did say you said that only Blacks can understand Black needs (and by extension those are different than White, Latino, etc.).
I just noted that the credo of liberalism is that people are defined by their ethnicity not their actions. If the shoe fits...
This is true.
msg to Lanie.... I'm sorry I have not read the entire thread so I do not know what words were attributed to you. Can you appreciate that actions define a person and not their skin color or ethnicity? The fact that Obama is half black is no more important than him being half-white. The fact that he is both black and white does not make him twice as good. That's messed up thinking.
It's what made the battle between the Barrakstar Messiah and the Inevitable First Woman President so funny because they pretty much stand for exactly the same thing. In fact, take the most wacked out Dem candidate, whether it is that Mark Gravel guy or Denis Kooksinich and they are pretty much the same as Obama or Hilary.So as one cracka to another..... I am tired of 'race' being made a centerpiece of this election. Can we just debate the issues and may the best man win?
This obviously can't happen... if it did, the man running primarily on his race wouldn't stand a frickin' chance.
You beat me to it. hussein's ONLY qualification is his skin color. he is a junior senator that has voted "present" on almost all votes in his tenure, preceded by being a "Community Activist" (gadfly).
It astounds me that America has come to the point where an empty suit full of content-free platitudes can be this close to the most important position in the world.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
yes, yes ladies. I see how it is.
I'm putting you both on my List.
On your list to "CHORTLE"?
How'd I miss this post???
I dunno, that sounds sexy. Possibly then.
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities? The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.
I'm getting giddy. It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh. :-)
And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. :lmao:
yes, yes ladies. I see how it is.
I'm putting you both on my List.
On your list to "CHORTLE"?
How'd I miss this post???
I dunno, that sounds sexy. Possibly then.
It does sound sexy. :-*
Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.Again, Lanie makes my point for me. Conservatives believe that you hire/appoint people who are the best for the job. Lanie ADMITS that the feeling is that minorities only get hired as a result of their skin color (or orientation). For a liberal, however, no way can they just be the right person for the job. It has to be based on race.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities? The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Quotas anyone? :whatever:Quote from: one of the hottest mamacitas on the netDo you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.Again, Lanie makes my point for me. Conservatives believe that you hire/appoint people who are the best for the job. Lanie ADMITS that the feeling is that minorities only get hired as a result of their skin color (or orientation). For a liberal, however, no way can they just be the right person for the job. It has to be based on race.
Not even DISGUISED racism.
Don't apologize. You mean it.
I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.
It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.
I'm sorry, what did you just say? :p
Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. :)
Sorry, BEG, Lanie has made an accusation that I twisted his/her words. It just ain't so and it doesn't change the underlying argument -- that liberals are racist and we have many exemplars, up ti and including Lanie's own words (not the one he/she said I "twisted").
How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>
To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
Probably if it was a liberal democrat businessman and the best qualified was a white male with a W '04 oval still on his car he'd be cutting off his nose just so he could spurt blood on the best qualified candidate's W '04 oval.The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities? The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.
You didn't twist my words? What was this?QuoteHow DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>QuoteTo liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.
You didn't twist my words? What was this?QuoteHow DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>QuoteTo liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.
O M G. You can't take a little sarcasm? Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that. I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.
I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending posts. By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities? The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.
I doubt that would have been a thought because to a racist everything is viewed in that perspective.
Sorry Lanie,but that is the mindset you carry where you think it seems in terms of a persons skin color and how it reflects on them politically.
To me that is deeply racist.
You didn't twist my words? What was this?QuoteHow DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>QuoteTo liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.
O M G. You can't take a little sarcasm? Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that. I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.
I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending posts. By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.
The right people for the job because they were qualified, right? What makes you think companies complying with the Affirmative Action policies aren't doing that?
And I remember hearing straight from conservatives what they thought Bush was doing. Everytime I read a conservative say that Bush did more for blacks and other minorities than Dems did, it was mostly about those hirings. I know this because I asked them about it.
Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings. You might also want to write a letter to John McCain about his sexist ideas of hiring women.
What I find racist is this stupid idea that black people are being mind controlled by white Dems. My gosh. Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....
Would you believe.....?..... :lmao:
(http://www.shadesplus.com/products/930.jpg)
This is the Internet so who knows. One of the most prolific posters at FR (Kristin) has a girl's name. I showed respect by not presuming your sex. Your reaction is typical for a liberal, though. Ad hominem doesn't really move the ball.
You didn't twist my words? What was this?QuoteHow DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>QuoteTo liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.
O M G. You can't take a little sarcasm? Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that. I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.
I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending posts. By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.
This coming from the guy who had to be told my gender even though Lanie is a girl's name. :tongue:
Liberals don't get that, they think that all evil CEO's have a secret code. Try your damnedest not to hire any more minorities over the government allotment, even if you have to hire a substandard whitey here and there.
For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....
Would you believe.....?..... :lmao:
(http://www.shadesplus.com/products/930.jpg)
For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....
Would you believe.....?..... :lmao:
(http://www.shadesplus.com/products/930.jpg)
You never disappoint. :-)
For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....
Would you believe.....?..... :lmao:
(http://www.shadesplus.com/products/930.jpg)
Liberals don't get that, they think that all evil CEO's have a secret code. Try your damnedest not to hire any more minorities over the government allotment, even if you have to hire a substandard whitey here and there.
Didn't seem to work out well, if that was the case, for "whitey" with this, AWESOME man:
http://www.hermancain.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain
If this man were running against McCain, he would get ALL votes by Boortz listeners. :rocker2:
For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....
Would you believe.....?..... :lmao:
(http://www.shadesplus.com/products/930.jpg)
I did not give them permission to use my likeness for that damn doll! :banghead:
Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings.
I did not give them permission to use my likeness for that damn doll! :banghead:
Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings. You might also want to write a letter to John McCain about his sexist ideas of hiring women.Again, please provide proof that Bush's hirings were motivated by anything other than getting the best people for the job. His inclusiveness is pretty standard for Conservative thinking (as opposed to the exclusiveness of his predecessor). And I await your proof on John McCain's positions re: women. Repeating a blatant assertion over and over doesn't make it a fact (although the technique has worked on the American Public).
What I find racist is this stupid idea that black people are being mind controlled by white Dems. My gosh. Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
The liberal ideology is by definition racist. You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete. Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.QuoteWhy do libs always have these racist pigs around them. I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them.
BEG,
I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?
Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.QuoteAt it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.
The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea. We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).QuoteI'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone. That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy: Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.QuoteI think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.
To be a liberal is to be a racist. Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race. It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?QuoteAs for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.
I dare you to back up your words.
If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.
Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?
Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.
And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?
Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities? The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.
I doubt that would have been a thought because to a racist everything is viewed in that perspective.
Sorry Lanie,but that is the mindset you carry where you think it seems in terms of a persons skin color and how it reflects on them politically.
To me that is deeply racist.
Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings. You might also want to write a letter to John McCain about his sexist ideas of hiring women.
What I find racist is this stupid idea that black people are being mind controlled by white Dems. My gosh. Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
I knew you like silicone!
For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....
Would you believe.....?..... :lmao:
(http://www.shadesplus.com/products/930.jpg)
You never disappoint. :-)
:lmao: I googled.
Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
I knew you like silicone!
Appears to be in need of package-enhancing silicone implants. :confused:
This is as good a place as any to remind Ms. Lanie how the left wing lunatics treated Colin Powell, and Condoleeza Rice! Do I have to give details?
nuff said on that shit.
This is as good a place as any to remind Ms. Lanie how the left wing lunatics treated Colin Powell, and Condoleeza Rice! Do I have to give details?If you are Black and want to piss off the liberal left, just leave the Plantation. Those house nigga's gots to know their place!
nuff said on that shit.
This is the Internet so who knows. One of the most prolific posters at FR (Kristin) has a girl's name. I showed respect by not presuming your sex. Your reaction is typical for a liberal, though. Ad hominem doesn't really move the ball.
You didn't twist my words? What was this?QuoteHow DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!! Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>QuoteTo liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.
Just ask Lanie.
Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.
O M G. You can't take a little sarcasm? Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that. I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.
I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending posts. By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.
This coming from the guy who had to be told my gender even though Lanie is a girl's name. :tongue:
Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
No, we just think liberals are stupid. If they're black, doesn't matter. They're stupid as well. We're equal-opportunity here.
This is as good a place as any to remind Ms. Lanie how the left wing lunatics treated Colin Powell, and Condoleeza Rice! Do I have to give details?
nuff said on that shit.
They're race-traitors because they moved out of the 'hood, too. If you're a black liberal, you'd respect them more for going to prison than going to the White House.
Okay, thanks to you and freedumb for clarifying that. I actually feel better now, and you say it in a way that's funny.
Okay, I'm out. lol.
Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
No, we just think liberals are stupid. If they're black, doesn't matter. They're stupid as well. We're equal-opportunity here.
Okay, thanks to you and freedumb for clarifying that. I actually feel better now, and you say it in a way that's funny.
Okay, I'm out. lol.
"If it walks like a duck.....etc...." :-)Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.
No, we just think liberals are stupid. If they're black, doesn't matter. They're stupid as well. We're equal-opportunity here.
Okay, thanks to you and freedumb for clarifying that. I actually feel better now, and you say it in a way that's funny.
Okay, I'm out. lol.
Standard issue liberal response. Facts don't support my position. Argumentation doesn't support my position. My attempts at inventing facts have been exposed. Ignoring direct argumentation is exposed.
Time to run like hell and PRAY that no one ever notices this argument ever happened (but we will remember).
Lanie -- I still say your positions are racist. That doesn't make you racist -- but what does it say about someone when someone supports racist positions?
The right people for the job because they were qualified, right? What makes you think companies complying with the Affirmative Action policies aren't doing that?
And I remember hearing straight from conservatives what they thought Bush was doing. Everytime I read a conservative say that Bush did more for blacks and other minorities than Dems did, it was mostly about those hirings. I know this because I asked them about it.
Dems see him as a Black Presidential candidate.
Republicans see him as a Presidential candidate who just happens to be black.
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
And when and if he loses...it will give the Democrat party an excuse to call Republicans "racist" for ANOTHER 50 years.
:whatever:
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
And when and if he loses...it will give the Democrat party an excuse to call Republicans "racist" for ANOTHER 50 years.
:whatever:
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
And when and if he loses...it will give the Democrat party an excuse to call Republicans "racist" for ANOTHER 50 years.
:whatever:
How 'bout McCain doing something bold and asking a woman--such as Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Sarah Palin--to be his running mate? That would put the Dems into a tizzy, and probably bring some conservatives back to McCain . . .
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
And when and if he loses...it will give the Democrat party an excuse to call Republicans "racist" for ANOTHER 50 years.
:whatever:
How 'bout McCain doing something bold and asking a woman--such as Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Sarah Palin--to be his running mate? That would put the Dems into a tizzy, and probably bring some conservatives back to McCain . . .
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
And when and if he loses...it will give the Democrat party an excuse to call Republicans "racist" for ANOTHER 50 years.
:whatever:
How 'bout McCain doing something bold and asking a woman--such as Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Sarah Palin--to be his running mate? That would put the Dems into a tizzy, and probably bring some conservatives back to McCain . . .
i'd be all for palin... she is conservative, young, energetic, and she's pretty hot! also gotta like the fact that one of her first official acts as governor was to participate in the welcome home for the 172d SBCT after they were in Iraq for 16 months
An incredibly inexperienced one, but he's the Dems' candidate.
And when and if he loses...it will give the Democrat party an excuse to call Republicans "racist" for ANOTHER 50 years.
:whatever:
How 'bout McCain doing something bold and asking a woman--such as Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Sarah Palin--to be his running mate? That would put the Dems into a tizzy, and probably bring some conservatives back to McCain . . .
i'd be all for palin... she is conservative, young, energetic, and she's pretty hot! also gotta like the fact that one of her first official acts as governor was to participate in the welcome home for the 172d SBCT after they were in Iraq for 16 months
Palin also let her fifth child be born, even though her doctors and her knew that the child had Down's Syndrome. She's hugely pro-life. She believes in 2nd Amendment rights, drilling in ANWR, and a whole bunch of conservative things. Picking her would expose the Dems for the sexists they are.
Saying Maryland Democratic leaders must do more to encourage black candidates so “we do not have another Michael Steele problem,†Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean on Thursday criticized the state party’s lack of diversity on its recent winning tickets.http://michellemalkin.com/2006/11/10/howard-dean-the-dems-michael-steele-problem/
Speaking at a breakfast meeting in Washington, Dean expressed concern about Steele, Maryland’s black, Republican lieutenant governor, who was defeated in his quest to fill a vacated Senate seat in Tuesday’s election.
“I just think we have got to do a better job in Maryland four years from now about diversity on the ticket,†Dean said.
SNIP -
During a meeting Friday with the Democratic black caucus, Dean praised black Democrats for their work for the party, then questioned Republicans’ ability to rally support from minorities.
“You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?,†Dean asked to laughter. “Only if they had the hotel staff in here.â€
Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican.
Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an “Uncle Tom†and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log.
Operatives for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) also obtained a copy of his credit report — the only Republican candidate so targeted.
But black Democrats say there is nothing wrong with “pointing out the obvious.â€
Steele, a rising star in the party, is considering a Senate bid. Two of Schumer’s staffers, including a former researcher for David Brock’s Media Matters, obtained Steele’s credit report by using his Social Security number, which they got from public documents. Under federal law, it is illegal to knowingly and willfully obtain a credit report under false pretenses.
Federal prosecutors have decided to bring charges against a Democratic researcher accused of fraudulently obtaining a credit report on Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele, now a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate.
Lauren B. Weiner, who has since resigned from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in Washington, will be charged with obtaining the report without authorization, according to a letter sent to Steele by the U.S. attorney’s office in the District.
A copy of the March 8 letter, which notified Steele that he is considered a victim in the case, was obtained by The Washington Post yesterday.
ANNAPOLIS, MD – Today, Michael Steele released the following statement concerning charges brought by federal prosecutors against one of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee staffers who illegally obtained his credit report:
“I am saddened and concerned by the corrupt practices of those in Washington who have clearly been there for too long. I am particularly concerned about the leadership that fails to recognize and address the illegal activities of subordinates. The theft of my credit report is another example of the often heavy-handed, and in my case, unlawful political games Marylanders are sick of, and it’s another reason why I am looking forward to presenting a fresh, honest, and independent voice in our nation’s capital.â€
Liberals love to accuse conservatives of racism, but as a general rule, liberals tend to be some of the most racially insensitive people you'll ever come across. They've thrown Oreos at Michael Steele, photoshopped Joe Lieberman in blackface, called black Republicans Uncle Toms and House Slaves, and they called Marvin Stewart, a black member of the Minutemen, a n*gger at Columbia University. Here's the latest example of this sort of mentality from Billmon at Whiskey Bar. It's a photoshopped pic of Wolf Blitzer in blackface:
(pic at link)
You know what's funny? The same liberals who say they can hear imaginary jungle drums in a Bob Corker commercials and who claim that having a playboy bunny say, "Call me," to Harold Ford in a commercial is an obvious racial slur would undoubtedly see nothing racial or out of place about drawing Wolf Blitzer as a big lipped member of a minstrel show.
Whatever -- let me just close with that statement you hear so often these days, "If a conservative did the exact same thing, the left would rip him apart for it."
Lisa Gladden notes that racial jabs are to be expected in national politics, because “party trumps race†—in this case the argument being that (superficial) blackness being equal, the deciding factor in black identity politics is now political affiliation. Therefore, it follows that a move away from the Democratic party is tantamount to a move away from black authenticity, a willful act that opens to attack those “race traitors†who have surrendered the protections that proceed from adherence to the dictates of the group’s identity. Which is to say, racial jabs are okay when they are aimed at those who’ve surrendered the protections offered by the group, because those who’ve left the group no longer meet the requirements for protected blackness.
Perversely, then, we have progressives sanctioning the kind of racial attacks they would normally decry on the grounds that those who choose the wrong party affiliation have surrendered the protection of their race. And what makes this so troubling is that it redefines the idea of “offense†as something that is to be decided upon by identity groups—and so is yet another way in which identity politics robs the individual of autonomy.
I hear crickets!
Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
I hear crickets!
Give it a couple weeks...or sometime this weekend when we're all enjoying fireworks...she'll show up and give us 20 more pages in response to all of the facts we've given her.
She'll tell us all we're crazy...tell us how she's laughing about all of it...post some quaint Liberal pap and head back out the door.
If you don't want me saying what you think, maybe you should return the favor. I'll be happy not to engage you here. I have a horrible feeling you're like a certain other poster. Won't go to names, but the poster was known for being buds with the conservatives and lashing out at the libs. I didn't care much for her. That's not to say you should be friends with me, but you acted like her just now.
I don't think she knows where she is posting most of the times.
Well, some of us do ;)Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
Of course I agree. Our human failing is to presume we know better than God.
Well, some of us do ;)Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
Of course I agree. Our human failing is to presume we know better than God.
Almost.
Well, some of us do ;)Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
Of course I agree. Our human failing is to presume we know better than God.
Almost.
I'm gonna let God Himself BS you for that . . . :o
Well, some of us do ;)Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
Of course I agree. Our human failing is to presume we know better than God.
Almost.
I'm gonna let God Himself BS you for that . . . :o
Well, some of us do ;)Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
Of course I agree. Our human failing is to presume we know better than God.
Almost.
I'm gonna let God Himself BS you for that . . . :o
God was busy, so he sent me to do it!
Oh my how this thread has covered every subject imaginable from house negroes, to little plastic man figures, to the eternal damnation of our friend freedumb. :evillaugh:
May it never end.
Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.I believe her comment was to ape the libs.
Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.I believe her comment was to ape the libs.
Oh my how this thread has covered every subject imaginable from house negroes, to little plastic man figures, to the eternal damnation of our friend freedumb. :evillaugh:
May it never end.
Have we talked about sex yet? :tongue:
Well, some of us do ;)Milady, as I've told you, every child is a Gift from God Himself. He doesn't differentiate between "normal" and "abnormal." We are charged with the onus to love the child until He calls the child Home.
Of course I agree. Our human failing is to presume we know better than God.
Almost.
I'm gonna let God Himself BS you for that . . . :o
God was busy, so he sent me to do it!
QuoteTarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Jun-30-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Your dubious defense of the indefensible is kinda puke making.
I've known some of these people personally, and it's all about what's in it for them. Most have been bought off, and moved to the suburbs, and now look down on the people with whom they grew up. They can vote for whomever they want, but I agree with the o.p.
What in the hell....do democrats think they own black people? WTF.
Yes they do. Most of them are still upset over the end of slavery and are jusr extending it politically. Leave the plantation, they send the dogs out.