House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush

[Lanie]

Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism.  The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second.  Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American. 

We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.

Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.

Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.

Jesus Lanie, let it go.  No one cares what you think.

Let idiotic twists of my words go? Uh, no.

You're lucky I'm letting the debate go after it was never proven that most blacks voting Dem are doing it to stay on welfare.

I'm lucky?  LOL

I was going to apologize for saying no one cares what you think but now I'm taking it back before I even say it.   

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

[Schadenfreude]

My particular favorite is the guy who hates black conservatives because they've moved to the suburbs.  Because, God knows, if you're black you have no right to work your way out of a suffocating landscape of poverty, drugs, and crime. 

I seriously wonder what color the sky is in their world on DU.   

How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!!  Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>

Keep them in one place under the thumb of the cracka man.

*snot*  I totally can picture you saying that.   

LMAO I MEANT SNORT!!!!11111ONE

I actually pictured you boog-ing out on the first post!

I'll never forget the time I laughed so hard a frito chip blew out of my nose. 

I'm getting giddy.  It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh.   

And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. 

Tell me you used a thesaurus or something.

I did not, is it a real word? My mom always accuses me of making words up - she calls it Schade-lish. 

Oh, it's a word.  Guffaw is a word too.  I had a hearty guffaw at the thought of Schade speaking Schadelish.

Schadese is another variation.

[Chris_]

Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism.  The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second.  Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American. 

We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.

Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

I didn't say you said that. I did say you said that only Blacks can understand Black needs (and by extension those are different than White, Latino, etc.). 

I just noted that the credo of liberalism is that people are defined by their ethnicity not their actions.  If the shoe fits...

[BEG]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

I'm sorry, what did you just say?   



Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. 

[Chris_]

So as one cracka to another..... I am tired of 'race' being made a centerpiece of this election. Can we just debate the issues and may the best man win?

This obviously can't happen... if it did, the man running primarily on his race wouldn't stand a frickin' chance. 

You beat me to it.  hussein's ONLY qualification is his skin color.  he is a junior senator that has voted "present" on almost all votes in his tenure, preceded by being a "Community Activist" (gadfly).

It astounds me that America has come to the point where an empty suit full of content-free platitudes can be this close to the most important position in the world.

[Miss Mia]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

That's presuming to know what I think. 



BTW, if you think I was rude, then you need to grow a thicker skin.  I haven't been rude, I've been matter of fact.  I was a member of CU, I know who you are.  I didn't engage you there, just as I wasn't talking to you in the first place here. 

[Lanie]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

I'm sorry, what did you just say?   



Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. 

Hooray!

[Chris_]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

I'm sorry, what did you just say?    :p



Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go.  :)

Sorry, BEG, Lanie has made an accusation that  I twisted his/her words.  It just ain't so and it doesn't change the underlying argument -- that liberals are racist and we have many exemplars, up ti and including Lanie's own words (not the one he/she said I "twisted").

[Carl]

Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism.  The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second.  Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American. 

We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.

Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

I said I wasn't commenting on it, don't presume to know what I think.

Personally, I don't care what you think. I just care about my words being twisted. So if you, freedumb, or anybody else thinks that what freedumb said I was saying was correct, then feel free to find the post where I said it.

Jesus Lanie, let it go.  No one cares what you think.

Let idiotic twists of my words go? Uh, no.

You're lucky I'm letting the debate go after it was never proven that most blacks voting Dem are doing it to stay on welfare.

Nope,they are doing it for the same reason that all libs do...they live under the false impression that forces beyond their control are keeping them down and a socialist government will somehow magically change that.
The difference is that black America has been racially singled out by the dems to ensure their dependency.
It is the epitome of cruelty as in real life all they want is a vote,beyond that they don`t give a damn.

[BEG]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

I'm sorry, what did you just say?   



Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. 

Sorry, BEG, Lanie has made an accusation that  I twisted his/her words.  It just ain't so and it doesn't change the underlying argument -- that liberals are racist and we have many exemplars, up ti and including Lanie's own words (not the one he/she said I "twisted").

Oh I totally agree with your assesment of Liberals.  I just am at the point of letting it go because it is worthless to argue with her.  

[Schadenfreude]

Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism.  The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second.  Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American. 

We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.

Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

I didn't say you said that. I did say you said that only Blacks can understand Black needs (and by extension those are different than White, Latino, etc.). 

I just noted that the credo of liberalism is that people are defined by their ethnicity not their actions.  If the shoe fits...

This is true.

msg to Lanie.... I'm sorry I have not read the entire thread so I do not know what words were attributed to you. Can you appreciate that actions define a person and not their skin color or ethnicity? The fact that Obama is half black is no more important than him being half-white. The fact that he is both black and white does not make him twice as good. That's messed up thinking.

[Chris_]

I'm going to TRY to be short, sweet, and to the point.

That would be a first.

I have a few friends at DU, but those people are not it.

That you know of.

All libs are not the same. If you don't understand that, then I feel sorry for you.

They are ALL the same.  All cut from the same cloth.  ALl of the belief that every right we have every liberty we have comes from the government...not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.  All Libs are of the midset that this country would be better off if we were more like Europe...right down to their Socialist underpinnings.  They are all anti-free trade...anti-gun and pro abortion.

That you don't see that is what is truly pathetic here.

Oh my gosh. You are so willfully ignorant. I think I could have some fun with you.

Don't forget where you are!

I don't scare easily, and this is actually Lanielite.

nobody is trying to scare you!

Just offer some facts....that will do it.

[Lanie]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

[Lanie]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

That's presume to know what I think. 



BTW, if you think I was rude, then you need to grow a thicker skin.  I haven't been rude, I've been matter of fact.  I was a member of CU, I know who you are.  I didn't engage you there, just as I wasn't talking to you in the first place here. 

No, that's not saying what you think. That's assuming that if you read my posts then you know what I said.

If you don't want me saying what you think, maybe you should return the favor. I'll be happy not to engage you here. I have a horrible feeling you're like a certain other poster. Won't go to names, but the poster was known for being buds with the conservatives and lashing out at the libs. I didn't care much for her. That's not to say you should be friends with me, but you acted like her just now.

I'm supposed to be letting this go, so I'll leave it at this clarifying post.

[Willow]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

That's presume to know what I think. 



BTW, if you think I was rude, then you need to grow a thicker skin.  I haven't been rude, I've been matter of fact.  I was a member of CU, I know who you are.  I didn't engage you there, just as I wasn't talking to you in the first place here. 

No, that's not saying what you think. That's assuming that if you read my posts then you know what I said.

If you don't want me saying what you think, maybe you should return the favor. I'll be happy not to engage you here. I have a horrible feeling you're like a certain other poster. Won't go to names, but the poster was known for being buds with the conservatives and lashing out at the libs. I didn't care much for her. That's not to say you should be friends with me, but you acted like her just now.

I'm supposed to be letting this go, so I'll leave it at this clarifying post.

 

[Chris_]

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete.

Yes they do.

Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people".

No they don't.  They say "Out of all the applicants some are minorities -- PUT THEM AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE AND REQUIRE LESS OF THEM."  This isn't an assertion -- this is the specific POLICIES enacted by Liberals.  Those SPECIFIC POLICIES are racist on their face -- and support of the ideology behind those policies is thus racist as well.

Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

Please prove that Bush used skin color or sexual orientation as a basis for any of his appointments.  He chose the best people for the positions, IRRESPECTIVE of color.

But again, you demonstrate you liberalness by inventing "facts" in the hopes that no one will catch you.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

I don't know where he said that -- got a link?  And who the hell said McCain is a Conservative?  He could run as a Liberal Democrat without changing a single position.  It is hust he is better than an untested socialist empty suit full of platitudes whose ONLY qualification is his skin color.

[Miss Mia]

I'm getting giddy.  It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh.   

And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. 

yes, yes ladies.  I see how it is.



I'm putting you both on my List. 

On your list to "CHORTLE"?

How'd I miss this post???


I dunno, that sounds sexy.  Possibly then. 

[Carl]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Perhaps it is late or one too many beers but I have no clue what that statement was trying to convey.

As to the first sentence...BS,they do indeed say all the time that blacks can`t compete and then go on to say it is because a lib dominated public educational system isn`t collecting enough taxes to do it.

The beneficiaries of that system have indeed not been urban blacks or for that matter rural whites but lib union fat cats (probably white so where is the racisim charge there) who also don`t give a damn except for adding members and dues to the union.

[Lanie]

Freedumb, that's why it boggles the mind when I hear some black liberal say some stupid shit like, "What have conservatives done to reach out to blacks?". Huh? What the **** have they done to reach out to whites? Conservatives don't see groups or race. We see potential and freedom. When conservatives are campaigning they're not talking to me, as a white guy, they're talking to me as an individual.

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

I would say that's a symptom of the change from a melting pot to multiculturalism.  The melting pot idea was that you were American first and possibly black, Asian, German, Italian, etc second.  Multiculturalism has flipped it to where you're supposed to identify yourself by race or culture first then American. 

We don't really know each other, but I think you should know that freedumb is twisting my words. I am not saying that racism is where you don't see racial groups. That's nowhere in the thread.

Mia is smart enough to read your words and know exactly what you are saying.

Then she knows I didn't say what freedumb claimed.

I didn't say you said that. I did say you said that only Blacks can understand Black needs (and by extension those are different than White, Latino, etc.). 

I just noted that the credo of liberalism is that people are defined by their ethnicity not their actions.  If the shoe fits...

This is true.

msg to Lanie.... I'm sorry I have not read the entire thread so I do not know what words were attributed to you. Can you appreciate that actions define a person and not their skin color or ethnicity? The fact that Obama is half black is no more important than him being half-white. The fact that he is both black and white does not make him twice as good. That's messed up thinking.

 Yes, I can agree with all of that.

[Duke Nukum]

So as one cracka to another..... I am tired of 'race' being made a centerpiece of this election. Can we just debate the issues and may the best man win?

This obviously can't happen... if it did, the man running primarily on his race wouldn't stand a frickin' chance. 

You beat me to it.  hussein's ONLY qualification is his skin color.  he is a junior senator that has voted "present" on almost all votes in his tenure, preceded by being a "Community Activist" (gadfly).

It astounds me that America has come to the point where an empty suit full of content-free platitudes can be this close to the most important position in the world.

It's what made the battle between the Barrakstar Messiah and the Inevitable First Woman President so funny because they pretty much stand for exactly the same thing.  In fact, take the most wacked out Dem candidate, whether it is that Mark Gravel guy or Denis Kooksinich and they are pretty much the same as Obama or Hilary.

It's also what made the GOP primary so sad  because there were actual important ideas being suppressed in order to feign party unity in order to ensure McCainez could appear to be just as content free and platitude spouting as Obama. Or Hilary if she had ended up winning. 

[Schadenfreude]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[BEG]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities?  The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.  

[BEG]

I'm getting giddy.  It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh.   

And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. 

yes, yes ladies.  I see how it is.



I'm putting you both on my List. 

On your list to "CHORTLE"?

How'd I miss this post???


I dunno, that sounds sexy.  Possibly then. 

It does sound sexy.   

[Miss Mia]

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities?  The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie. 

Agreed BEG.

[Miss Mia]

I'm getting giddy.  It's been awhile, I miss you making me laugh.   

And I miss you making me laugh too... even in my weakened state and feverish, I am chortling. 

yes, yes ladies.  I see how it is.



I'm putting you both on my List. 

On your list to "CHORTLE"?

How'd I miss this post???


I dunno, that sounds sexy.  Possibly then. 

It does sound sexy.