House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush

[Chris_]

Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Again, Lanie makes my point for me.  Conservatives believe that you hire/appoint people who are the best for the job.  Lanie ADMITS that the feeling is that minorities only get hired as a result of their skin color (or orientation).  For a liberal, however, no way can they just be the right person for the job. It has to be based on race.

Not even DISGUISED racism.

[Carl]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities?  The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.  

I doubt that would have been a thought because to a racist everything is viewed in that perspective.

Sorry Lanie,but that is the mindset you carry where you think it seems in terms of a persons skin color and how it reflects on them politically.

To me that is deeply racist.

[BEG]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Liberals don't get that, they think that all evil CEO's have a secret code.  Try your damnedest not to hire any more minorities over the government allotment, even if you have to hire a substandard whitey here and there.

[Chris_]

Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Again, Lanie makes my point for me.  Conservatives believe that you hire/appoint people who are the best for the job.  Lanie ADMITS that the feeling is that minorities only get hired as a result of their skin color (or orientation).  For a liberal, however, no way can they just be the right person for the job. It has to be based on race.

Not even DISGUISED racism.

Quotas anyone?   

[Lanie]

Don't apologize. You mean it.

I guess I just felt you all were rude just now claiming that I was telling Miss Mia what she thinks and so forth. I expected a lot of stuff out of others, but not out of you two. You because I knew you and Mia just because she doesn't know me and never read me saying what she thinks. I never said what anybody thinks. I simply said that I didn't say certain things. I still think anybody reading the thread knows that because I KNOW I didn't say certain things. I reacted because that was unexpected.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather just let it go at this point.

I'm sorry, what did you just say?   



Ok Lanie, I'm up for letting it go. 

Sorry, BEG, Lanie has made an accusation that  I twisted his/her words.  It just ain't so and it doesn't change the underlying argument -- that liberals are racist and we have many exemplars, up ti and including Lanie's own words (not the one he/she said I "twisted").

You didn't twist my words? What was this?

How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!!  Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.

[Duke Nukum]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Do you really think a smart businessman would dismiss a qualified candidate because of their 'minority' status? That's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Probably if it was a liberal democrat businessman and the best qualified was a white male with a W '04 oval still on his car he'd be cutting off his nose just so he could spurt blood on the best qualified candidate's W '04 oval.

[Schadenfreude]

ok freedumb, Lanie is a she.... as in MeLanie. 

[Lanie]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities?  The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.  

The right people for the job because they were qualified, right? What makes you think companies complying with the Affirmative Action policies aren't doing that?

And I remember hearing straight from conservatives what they thought Bush was doing. Everytime I read a conservative say that Bush did more for blacks and other minorities than Dems did, it was mostly about those hirings. I know this because I asked them about it.

[Chris_]

You didn't twist my words? What was this?

How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!!  Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.

O M G.  You can't take a little sarcasm?  Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that.  I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.

I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending  posts.  By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.

[BEG]

You didn't twist my words? What was this?

How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!!  Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.

O M G.  You can't take a little sarcasm?  Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that.  I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.

I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending  posts.  By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.

HA HA 

[Lanie]

Why do libs always have these racist pigs around them.  I wish I could find ONE person say the things that they claim people are saying in droves to them. 

BEG,

I realize this may sound offensive (but so is some of the other stuff read here). Maybe some conservatives don't realize it when they see a racist?

Yes we do -- every liberal is, by definition, a racist.

At it turns out, there are people right here in this thread claiming to know what's best for black people and it's not considered racism for some reason.

The idea that what is best for Black people is somehow different than for Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. is a VERY racist idea.  We all want the American Dream (and many of all races obtain it).

I'm failing to see how certain posters here are different than the DUers being criticized. Who knows? Unlike some people in this thread though, I don't stereotype.

We believe in equal standards for everyone and equal opportunity for everyone.  That is quite different from the paternal attitude built into the liberal philosophy:  Negros is too stupid to compete -- they needs a hand from us Smart Liberal Whites and The Gummint.

I think both libs and conservatives are racists and I notice black people not caring much to join with either side most of the time.

To be a liberal is to be a racist.  Conservatives have the AUDACITY to suggest that people make it on their own merits, IRRESPECTIVE of race.  It doesn't get any more racist than that, right?

As for supposedly not knowing anybody like that, come to where I'm at. I'll be happy to give a tour. lol.

I dare you to back up your words.

If you think all liberals are racist, and if you think of me as a liberal, then I have nothing to discuss with you.

The liberal ideology is by definition racist.  You can try to defend it, but you can't defeat it. Liberals believe that people can't take care of themselves and that some people (*cough Blacks* *cough *Latinos*) need extra help because they can't directly compete.  Pat their heads and let Mama Gummint take care of them, since they can;t take care of themselves.  If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

Maybe you have another definition of Liberal that doesn't involve paternalism that I am not familiar with?

Liberals do not say that blacks can't help themselves or that they can't compete. Liberals are saying "Out of all the applicants you got that are minorities, we don't believe that *none* of them are qualified for a job, so hire some of those qualified people". Bush actually pulls the same stunt, it's just not acknowledged for what it is. He hired Hispanics, blacks, and even homosexuals for high positions. I do believe those are qualified people, but many do take note of what he did.

And now, McCain is saying that if we elect him, he'll hire more women for higher office positions. Are we going to assume he'll hire somebody who isn't qualified?

Ever think he hired them because they were the right PEOPLE and not because they were minorities?  The line I highlighted it incredibly condescending Lanie.  

I doubt that would have been a thought because to a racist everything is viewed in that perspective.

Sorry Lanie,but that is the mindset you carry where you think it seems in terms of a persons skin color and how it reflects on them politically.

To me that is deeply racist.

Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings.  You might also want to write a letter to John McCain about his sexist ideas of hiring women.

What I find racist is this stupid idea that black people are being mind controlled by white Dems. My gosh. Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.

[Lanie]

You didn't twist my words? What was this?

How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!!  Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.

O M G.  You can't take a little sarcasm?  Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that.  I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.

I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending  posts.  By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.

This coming from the guy who had to be told my gender even though Lanie is a girl's name. 

[Schadenfreude]

For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....







Would you believe.....?.....

[Chris_]

The right people for the job because they were qualified, right? What makes you think companies complying with the Affirmative Action policies aren't doing that?

No, they weren't.  They were giving special status to people of color to meet givernment-imposed quotas, based on the assumption that minorities could not compete.

And I remember hearing straight from conservatives what they thought Bush was doing. Everytime I read a conservative say that Bush did more for blacks and other minorities than Dems did, it was mostly about those hirings. I know this because I asked them about it.

Because he looked for the best people IRRESPECTIVE of color.  He gave them a straight shot at it and they got it.

BJ bubba (and Carter and all the dims who preceded) EXCLUDED people of color from his appointment pool. 

There is a big difference.

You need to address at least ever third or fourth point I make if you want to defend youe very weak and indefensible positions.  Your condescension doesn't really have currency here.
 

[Red October]

Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings.  You might also want to write a letter to John McCain about his sexist ideas of hiring women.

What I find racist is this stupid idea that black people are being mind controlled by white Dems. My gosh. Truth is many in this thread think black people are just stupid, give them no credit at all.

Herein lies the problem... the people in this thread think Liberals are stupid and give them no credit.  Not blacks.  Skin color of said liberal has no bearing on our opinions.  Trust me, I'm as colorblind as a blue-eyed devil can get.

[BEG]

For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....







Would you believe.....?.....

You never disappoint.  

[Chris_]

You didn't twist my words? What was this?

How DARE you presume to know what Blacks want!!!  Only Blacks can say where Blacks belong and that is in the 'hood with their own kind! </Lanie>

To liberals, the ultimate racism is not seeing racial groups.

Just ask Lanie.

Then of course this entire post is presuming to know what I think since you think of me as a liberal.

O M G.  You can't take a little sarcasm?  Jeeze, you need to go post at the Disney High School Musical board or something like that.  I didn't change nor twist what you said, I used sarcasm to exaggerate it to make it clear -- a valid literary tactic.

I don't think of you as a liberal. You post liberal, racist, condescending  posts.  By what other yardstick should we determine your opinions? Strangely, I will use what you have sdaid as my guide.

This coming from the guy who had to be told my gender even though Lanie is a girl's name.  :tongue:

This is the Internet so who knows.  One of the most prolific posters at FR (Kristin) has a girl's name.  I showed respect by not presuming your sex.  Your reaction is typical for a liberal, though.  Ad hominem doesn't really move the ball.

[Rebel]

Liberals don't get that, they think that all evil CEO's have a secret code.  Try your damnedest not to hire any more minorities over the government allotment, even if you have to hire a substandard whitey here and there.

Didn't seem to work out well, if that was the case, for "whitey" with this, AWESOME man:

http://www.hermancain.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

If this man were running against McCain, he would get ALL votes by Boortz listeners.

[Red October]

For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....







Would you believe.....?.....

I did not give them permission to use my likeness for that damn doll!   

[Schadenfreude]

For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....







Would you believe.....?.....

You never disappoint.  

  I googled.

[Miss Mia]

For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....







Would you believe.....?.....

I knew you like silicone! 

[BEG]

Liberals don't get that, they think that all evil CEO's have a secret code.  Try your damnedest not to hire any more minorities over the government allotment, even if you have to hire a substandard whitey here and there.

Didn't seem to work out well, if that was the case, for "whitey" with this, AWESOME man:

http://www.hermancain.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

If this man were running against McCain, he would get ALL votes by Boortz listeners.

What does Herman know, he is just a sell out "House Negro".  <DU mode off>

[BEG]

For once, I wish someone would presume to know what I was thinking.....







Would you believe.....?.....

I did not give them permission to use my likeness for that damn doll!   

You always pose like that? 

[Rebel]

Acknowledging what people are doing is not racist. If you think that, you might want to have a talk with the next conservative who says Bush helped out minorities with his hirings. 

It's reaction vs. action. They HAVE to point it out as a defensive measure when you moonbats start saying conservatives hate blacks. I can assure you, Colin Powell, Condy Rice, and Rod Paige were WELL qualified. Condy Rice, hell, she's OVER-qualified. No affirmative action there. They were promoted on their merit.

[Schadenfreude]

I did not give them permission to use my likeness for that damn doll!   

How else am I spoda keep you on my nightstand?