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« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2008, 09:27:51 PM »
ps: Lanie --

You have done a great jon of sidestepping the massive number of arguments posed against you here.

Cut and run -- your presidential candidate will do it, so you are demonstrating how it is done?
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« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2008, 09:29:06 PM »
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although I will admit most on welfare voted Dem

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« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2008, 09:34:15 PM »
Hey, MORON known as "Lanie", who said "most" of the welfare recipients are black? We're talking percentages per population between whites and black. It really isn't that hard.

Hone up on your Googlefu.  :whatever:
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« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2008, 09:40:35 PM »
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.

http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm



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This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?



Huh?  You need to read ALL the words:

Quote from: your freaking source
lthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

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Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.

Need I go on?  This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2008, 09:41:01 PM »



Can you clarify what you mean by the plantation part?
The Democratic plantation, which has captured all races, but a huge number of blacks:
First, Welfare.  Give them just enough to sort-of get by, but never enough to have anything really nice.  Never let them actually own anything.  Penalize them for earning money by working (most on "welfare" are actually in several programs - ADC, Food Stamps, Medicare, Heating Assistance, etc. For every 2 dollars earned, they lose 1 dollar in benefits...from each program.)  Never let them earn enough to get off the government dollar, tell them that "The Man" will never be fair to them anyway, lie about who really cares and get those Dem votes.

Second, the school system, largely run by liberal Democrats.  (The NEA supports something like 99% to 1% Democrat to Republican candidates).  If we think most public schools suck, how much more do the schools in predominantly welfare areas suck?  Deny the ones who care the financial assistance with a private school (they might choose a Christian school, can't have that!! :thatsright:)  Continue to let standards slide into the mud.  Refuse to discipline the problem kids, turn in parents that care enough to discipline their kids, and pretend like a tough school is one that has kindergarden kids arrested for kissing each other.  Deny energetic young children any recesses, and see how much they learn!    :banghead:

Third, the liberal dream, Planned Parenthood...located predominantly in poor neighborhoods, willing to kill as many kids as possible...(which can be funded with federal dollars, unlike those scary Christian schools where kids are actually taught how to do weird stuff like read and write.)  Gloat over the fact that a hugely disproportionate number of black infants are slaughtered every year, though most libs are quite happy with anything that will decrease the population.

Fourth, the rampant drug and gang culture.  Like this is any surprise...take away their ability to get a starting job (got to get minimum wage up high enough that kids don't have a chance), take away their discipline, take away their educational opportunities, remove their fathers from the home through "free love" and government policies, tell them that it's "whitey" keeping them down, tell the girls that the government will send them money every month if they have a kid and the boys that they aren't needed for anything but their sperm and child support (now there's a good incentive for getting a job...hand it all over to the ex for the kid that may or may not be yours.)  Stir and watch violence and drugs take over the whole area.  Gloat over all the promising young lives ended by gunfire, knives, or prison sentences.  Then point self-righteously at the whole mess and blame it on the Republicans because they don't support government healthcare, and think all people would be better off truly free and able to earn their way to self-respect.

I really don't think the problems you're talking about comes all down to the Democrat party, but I'd like to address some of it anyway because it's interesting.

I do understand what you're talking about concerning being taxed so much that one might need government assistance. I don't think the answer is to get rid of all government assistance. I think the answer is to reform the tax system. I prefer the fair tax system idea. I also think that parents making under so much on their job should still be eligable for Medicaid because this takes away from the problem of people wanting to stay on welfare to keep their kids on benefits. (The problem with getting off welfare is that one loses benefits and can't necessarily afford them on their new paycheck).

I agree that schools in poor areas suck. However, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes. The property isn't worth that much. I think the state needs to start funding based on need and make sure the tax money is used efficiently. Schools often waste money on stupid crap IMO. With that being said, people who don't have a lot of money to pay in property taxes will probably not receive a lot of money for school vouchers. I don't currently see how school vouchers can benefit the poor. Currently, I'm not against vouchers, but I honestly don't see it helping the poor. I would like to put more money into charter and magnet schools. Parents would still get to choose a "better" school. It obviously wouldn't be a Christian school, but I keep thinking parents can teach those values at home and at church. That's where religious values come from anyway for the most part.

As far as discipline goes, I think it's important for parents and teachers to work together and to trust each other. Right now, a lot of parents don't trust the teachers much. If the teacher is just a stupid liberal or if their kid never does wrong, why would the parents work with the teacher? Teachers have to pick and choose their battles. Even if one doesn't agree with corporal punishment, most won't turn a parent in for it. Actually, most teachers I've met do agree with CP. Maybe it's just where I'm at.

Planned Parenthood and blacks. The answer is to reduce poverty and increase birth control. PP is already doing the contraception part. Some would say poverty isn't an excuse for abortion, but there it is causing abortion not only here but in countries where abortion is illegal.

Gang culture and other problematic people in that area - Has nothing to do with the political parties. I doubt they vote. Gangs are often an "answer" to violence already happening in the neighborhood and poverty. Not an excuse of course. Besides wanting to reduce poverty, I'd like to see more police involvement in those areas. Give people less reason to believe they have to take the law into their own hands.

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Re: House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2008, 09:42:50 PM »
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.

http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm



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This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/welfare

For people with little to no income.

Just an example of who is considered to be poverty level or below it is Alaska.

http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/882/Poverty-POVERTY-THEN-NOW.html

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2003 Poverty guidelines for Alaska
Size of family unit   Poverty guideline
1   $11,210
2   15,140
3   19,070
4   23,000
5   26,930
6   30,860
7   34,790
8   38,720

I would think the average family does not go past three kids, so 23K or less? That’s even if the person is making that much. Often, I don’t think they are after taxes.

Now, who are politicians targeting as voters and who normally votes?
Don't they normally talk about the "middle class"?

According to this poll, voters in the last election who made under 30K were only 23 percent. The remaining 78 percent were above 30K a year. Therefore, the majority of Dem voters can’t possibly be voting for Dems to stay on welfare. Most of them are not on welfare (although I will admit most on welfare voted Dem).

“Liberal” source. Sorry.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Breaking down the black vote some.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/8/2/4/6/p82462_index.html

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One, black middle-class voters
currently do not base their votes predominantly on economic criteria
but on a combination of fiscal self-interest and social issues of
black-middle class interest. And, two, with enough time passing for a
generation of black-middle class children to be raised from birth as
middle-class, or outside poor urban communities, they will begin to
vote more conservatively on social issues and base their votes
predominantly on issues of economic self-interest.
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So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.


I did not see anything that would give an indication as to the percentages in relation to population percentages.
Having said that there is an admission that there is a disproportionate (higher then proportionate to percentage of the population by the context) of single black mothers.

Those are not my words but the text of that link...

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Racial politics has so dominated welfare reform efforts that it is commonplace to observe that "welfare" has become a code word for race. When Americans discuss welfare, many have in mind the mythical Black "welfare queen" or profligate teenager who becomes pregnant at taxpayers' expense to fatten her welfare check. Although most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). It is likely, then, that the current campaign to slash funding for welfare programs, couched in a rhetoric that condemns welfare's social harms and recipients' irresponsibility, reflects a worsening racial crisis in America. At the same time, the exclusion from the mainstream debate of any consideration of enhancing public assistance to the poor signifies the resounding defeat of a progressive welfare ideal.

The point of that screed is not to address the detriment to the community whether it be specifically black or the overall but to accuse any mention of it as being racists.
This fixes nothing or helps no one.

As long as leftists are content to keep the status quo regarding that situation by subsidizing poverty and pandering to hopeless dreams which require no effort or responsibility there will never be an improvement to the situation.

You can call that racist if it suits the purpose of prolonging the misery for political reasons but it does not show an ounce of compassion or concern.
It is phony and hypocritical.

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Re: House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2008, 09:43:41 PM »
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So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.

And yet, 95%+ are voting for hussien.  You prove the opposite of what you wanted to prove.  Even in the face of your facts about Blacks voting fromother interests, they are clearly voting skin color.


I thought this was about whether they were voting for the one who would keep them supplied in welfare checks.
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« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2008, 09:43:41 PM »
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However, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes.

Once again you are wrong.  That is only the case in a handful of municipalities -- mostly states that don't have income tax.

This isn't a money issue -- it is a cultural issue.

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« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2008, 09:44:19 PM »
Need I go on?  This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Well, you ARE arguing with a liberal.
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« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2008, 09:44:46 PM »
So you think you're right while the Dems are wrong. You realize they think they're right too, right? I think blacks know what's best for black interests. The Dem party is not just about welfare (and it's not like welfare lasts long anyway. Five years tops).

Where did that "five year" number come from? I'm not saying that you're wrong because I don't honestly know the time limit, if any.

I have, however, been working in my current profession for 22 years. During those 22 years, the same group of guys (about my age AND able to work) have spent almost every single day sitting beneath the same oak tree drinking beers as I drive past going about my business. Granted, it could very well be that they are all independently wealthy and just choose to live in a run-down neighborhood, but I kind of doubt it.

I'll doublecheck it and get back to you, but I believe that's it.
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« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2008, 09:45:25 PM »
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So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.

And yet, 95%+ are voting for hussien.  You prove the opposite of what you wanted to prove.  Even in the face of your facts about Blacks voting fromother interests, they are clearly voting skin color.


I thought this was about whether they were voting for the one who would keep them supplied in welfare checks.

I never even suggested that.  This is 100% about voting for skin color. Blacks have and will prove their racism by voting color over issues.

The welfare issue is just that,
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« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2008, 09:45:49 PM »
Hey, MORON known as "Lanie", who said "most" of the welfare recipients are black? We're talking percentages per population between whites and black. It really isn't that hard.

Hone up on your Googlefu.  :whatever:

I have gone google crazy.

Can you show me where you found that most blacks are on welfare or at least most voting blacks?
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« Reply #87 on: July 01, 2008, 09:47:06 PM »
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.

http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm



Snip.

This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?



Huh?  You need to read ALL the words:

Quote from: your freaking source
lthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

...

Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.

Need I go on?  This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.
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« Reply #88 on: July 01, 2008, 09:50:08 PM »

I have gone google crazy.

Can you show me where you found that most blacks are on welfare or at least most voting blacks?

 :lmao: See? Just like a liberal, she's TOTALLY missing the point.

Since you're not educated enough to understand this by reading articles and studies, I'll simplify it for you:

Blacks comprise about 12% of the US.

Whites comprise 70+%

OF COURSE THERE ARE MORE WHITE ON WELFARE! THAT'S not the issue. The issue is percentages. What  are the percentages of blacks on welfare vs. whites? I.e., astronomically higher.

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« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2008, 09:51:07 PM »
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.

http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm



Snip.

This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/welfare

For people with little to no income.

Just an example of who is considered to be poverty level or below it is Alaska.

http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/882/Poverty-POVERTY-THEN-NOW.html

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2003 Poverty guidelines for Alaska
Size of family unit   Poverty guideline
1   $11,210
2   15,140
3   19,070
4   23,000
5   26,930
6   30,860
7   34,790
8   38,720

I would think the average family does not go past three kids, so 23K or less? That’s even if the person is making that much. Often, I don’t think they are after taxes.

Now, who are politicians targeting as voters and who normally votes?
Don't they normally talk about the "middle class"?

According to this poll, voters in the last election who made under 30K were only 23 percent. The remaining 78 percent were above 30K a year. Therefore, the majority of Dem voters can’t possibly be voting for Dems to stay on welfare. Most of them are not on welfare (although I will admit most on welfare voted Dem).

“Liberal” source. Sorry.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Breaking down the black vote some.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/8/2/4/6/p82462_index.html

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One, black middle-class voters
currently do not base their votes predominantly on economic criteria
but on a combination of fiscal self-interest and social issues of
black-middle class interest. And, two, with enough time passing for a
generation of black-middle class children to be raised from birth as
middle-class, or outside poor urban communities, they will begin to
vote more conservatively on social issues and base their votes
predominantly on issues of economic self-interest.
Snip

So middle class black people do not base their vote on economical interests as much as poor blacks do. (IOW, they are not as worried about stuff like welfare). I think the same could be true for all of the poor, and that’s another issue.


I did not see anything that would give an indication as to the percentages in relation to population percentages.
Having said that there is an admission that there is a disproportionate (higher then proportionate to percentage of the population by the context) of single black mothers.

Those are not my words but the text of that link...

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Racial politics has so dominated welfare reform efforts that it is commonplace to observe that "welfare" has become a code word for race. When Americans discuss welfare, many have in mind the mythical Black "welfare queen" or profligate teenager who becomes pregnant at taxpayers' expense to fatten her welfare check. Although most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). It is likely, then, that the current campaign to slash funding for welfare programs, couched in a rhetoric that condemns welfare's social harms and recipients' irresponsibility, reflects a worsening racial crisis in America. At the same time, the exclusion from the mainstream debate of any consideration of enhancing public assistance to the poor signifies the resounding defeat of a progressive welfare ideal.

The point of that screed is not to address the detriment to the community whether it be specifically black or the overall but to accuse any mention of it as being racists.
This fixes nothing or helps no one.

As long as leftists are content to keep the status quo regarding that situation by subsidizing poverty and pandering to hopeless dreams which require no effort or responsibility there will never be an improvement to the situation.

You can call that racist if it suits the purpose of prolonging the misery for political reasons but it does not show an ounce of compassion or concern.
It is phony and hypocritical.

It's one thing to have those opinions about poverty (another subject). It's another to make it a black thing. At least Mrs. Smith admitted it wasn't just blacks, but all races. My sources show that the blacks it is affecting a certain way just happen to be poor. My sources also show that blacks who are middle class are looking at the issues differently then they are. My sources also show that most voters are not even eligable for welfare.
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« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2008, 09:53:28 PM »
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.

http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm



Snip.

This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?



Huh?  You need to read ALL the words:

Quote from: your freaking source
lthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

...

Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.

Need I go on?  This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.

Now you have moved into the area of silliness as "most" of any demographic are not likely on the dole.
What is the percentage of all by race since that is the issue at hand based on the overall percentage of population?

Also as a side note I wonder how many,regardless of race or any other qualifier,are generational recipients of public assistance as a percentage of all who receive it.

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« Reply #91 on: July 01, 2008, 09:54:19 PM »
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However, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes.

Once again you are wrong.  That is only the case in a handful of municipalities -- mostly states that don't have income tax.

This isn't a money issue -- it is a cultural issue.



Can you tell me of a state that doesn't base it on that?
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« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2008, 09:55:00 PM »
Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks.  :banghead:

Fixed.

Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.


Really Bridget?  What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.
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« Reply #93 on: July 01, 2008, 09:55:56 PM »

I have gone google crazy.

Can you show me where you found that most blacks are on welfare or at least most voting blacks?

 :lmao: See? Just like a liberal, she's TOTALLY missing the point.

Since you're not educated enough to understand this by reading articles and studies, I'll simplify it for you:

Blacks comprise about 12% of the US.

Whites comprise 70+%

OF COURSE THERE ARE MORE WHITE ON WELFARE! THAT'S not the issue. The issue is percentages. What  are the percentages of blacks on welfare vs. whites? I.e., astronomically higher.

Clear enough? If not, lemme know and I'll break out the crayons and Blue HorseTM paper.

I understand that part. I'm asking you to show it to me. Show me where most blacks are on welfare and/or that most VOTING blacks are on welfare. Can you do that?
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« Reply #94 on: July 01, 2008, 09:58:38 PM »

I understand that part. I'm asking you to show it to me. Show me where most blacks are on welfare and/or that most VOTING blacks are on welfare. Can you do that?

I can, but I won't. I prefer you to remain ignorant. ...that is, if you don't want to do the research for yourself.  :whatever:
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Re: House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2008, 09:58:47 PM »
Blacks and how they vote. First, I'd like to show the connection between blacks on welfare, how often they're on welfare, and how often black welfare recipients are voting.

http://academic.udayton.edu/RACE/04NEEDS/welfare01.htm



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This confirms that most welfare recipients are not black. Furthermore, while a lot may be single black mothers, it does not confirm that most blacks are on welfare. So what does it take to get put on welfare?



Huh?  You need to read ALL the words:

Quote from: your freaking source
lthough most welfare recipients are not Black, Black single mothers do rely on a disproportionate share of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

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Instead, I advocate in Part VII a strategy of developing Black economic, cultural, and political institutions as part of a struggle for a strong American welfare state to which Black people belong as citizens.

Need I go on?  This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

But it didn't say that most black, single mothers did it. It also didn't say that most blacks did it.

I didn't say MOST Blacks are on Welfare -- in fact the welfare discussion is a side bar.  But the more you thrash the more you get dragged down into the tar pits of facts.
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Re: House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
« Reply #96 on: July 01, 2008, 09:58:55 PM »

It's one thing to have those opinions about poverty (another subject). It's another to make it a black thing. At least Mrs. Smith admitted it wasn't just blacks, but all races. My sources show that the blacks it is affecting a certain way just happen to be poor. My sources also show that blacks who are middle class are looking at the issues differently then they are. My sources also show that most voters are not even eligable for welfare.

That is the point,the text you linked to made the assertion that any talk of welfare was indeed a racial thing.

You can`t have it both ways as it suits you.

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« Reply #97 on: July 01, 2008, 09:59:49 PM »
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However, one of the problems is that their funding is mostly based on property taxes.

Once again you are wrong.  That is only the case in a handful of municipalities -- mostly states that don't have income tax.

This isn't a money issue -- it is a cultural issue.



Can you tell me of a state that doesn't base it on that?
California.
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Re: House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
« Reply #98 on: July 01, 2008, 10:00:00 PM »
Nothing like a bunch of Liberals thinking they know what's best for blacks.  :banghead:

Fixed.

Lots of people think they know what's best for blacks. It's all wrong.


Really Bridget?  What about folks who think blacks should think for themselves instead of depending on liberal politicians and shysters like AlSharptooth and Je$$e to do it for them?
Giving Bridget another opportunity to answer.


Oh give me a break. I can't answer everybody because I'm missing too many posts because they're all going at once.

I think that anybody who thinks that blacks should vote their way believes blacks should not think on their own. Anybody who respects how a black person votes (Republican or Dem) respects a black person's right to think on their own. Obviously, anybody who doesn't like Jesse Jackson can respect a black person's right to think on their own as long as they respect their right to agree or disagree with them.
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Re: House negroes for massa McCain and massa Bush
« Reply #99 on: July 01, 2008, 10:00:55 PM »

I understand that part. I'm asking you to show it to me. Show me where most blacks are on welfare and/or that most VOTING blacks are on welfare. Can you do that?

I can, but I won't. I prefer you to remain ignorant. ...that is, if you don't want to do the research for yourself.  :whatever:

I've been googling for a while. If I can't find it, then maybe it's not there.

Don't you want me to vote for McCain?
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