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Title: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 05:34:12 AM
The following is no joke. Mrs and I are both doing it.

I've been on it for 17 days, effective today.

Weight loss to date? Seventeen pounds.

I miss my Razzleberry pie, though, whether or not it sounds teh ghey.  :bawl:

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 08:01:10 AM
Did you buy the book?  Never heard of that diet. 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 15, 2011, 09:05:24 AM
tell us about your diet, I want to lose 10lbs before swim season
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 09:06:45 AM
Did you buy the book?  Never heard of that diet. 

Mrs E bought it. I glanced at it, being content to be led on this one.

Bottom line:


The doc that put this together recognized that people need/want to see immediate results. The low/zero carb, low fat thing will do that in Cycle 1. Lots of fluids flush out the carbs in the system. Carbs bring on inflammation, which speeds the aging process.

But without some carbs once in a while, the body can be tricked into thinking it's in starvation mode and start shutting itself down. This is not good, so the idea is to keep fooling the body and thus keep up the level of metabolism.

I feel much better than I did, and I have more energy. The quick weight loss is motivating.

But I sure miss my Razzleberry pie. With slightly softened vanilla bean ice cream.  :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 09:08:36 AM
I saw no cheese and no coffee....oy vey!
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 15, 2011, 09:09:45 AM
Sounds like the South Beach or Atkins diet with exercise involved.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 15, 2011, 09:10:09 AM
that's the Atkins diet isn't it?  I rock on the Atkin's diet.   :hyper:  I don't care for sweets so it's very easy for me to do that diet.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 09:15:49 AM
I saw no cheese and no coffee....oy vey!

No-fat cheese in the first cycle. After that it lightens up some. Fat is far, far less evil than are carbs, but still the idea is to limit both fat and carbs in the first cycle.

Coffee is okay, without all that junk in it. There's a new sweetener out called "Previa" (I think). Doc mentions that in the book.

@Thor - The Atkins diet limits things like tomatoes and onions, which do contains small amounts of carbs, and all manner of fruit, which also contain some carbs. No such restriction on this diet. Eat all the tomatoes you want (within reason) and choke the bastards with onions and garlic while you're at it - no prob. Two portions of fruit per day in Cycle 1 is okay, with no fruit past 2 p.m.

The Atkins diet doesn't do much to focus on hydration. This diet will keep you pissing like a racehorse. And Atkins doesn't do enough to advocate more veggies and less fat, although I've read "clarifications" on the Atkins diet. Furthermore, Atkins and its rather loose stance on fat will nauseate you after awhile. There's only so much bacon I can take, though I did render two slices and had that with an omelet on Sunday morning.  :-)

Yes, I technically cheated. So sue me.  :whistling:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 09:17:02 AM
Ok.  I can hang with that.  I drink my coffee straight up.  I think I will have to check that out. 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
The one I've been on since July was kind of similar, but not as much rapid weight loss, as you are seeing. You are really knocking the pounds off! Is Mrs. E doing as well? M can lose weight so much easier than I can. I swear, all he has to do is think about it, and can lose 3-5 pounds.  :argh:

Mine was a low carb - 30-50 grams per day - high protein, not paying attention to fat content or calories. You really do have to be careful about not enough carbs, though, because your body will think it's starving itself. I went through that, and because I lost too much in to short of time - mid September to early November, my hair has been falling out.  :bawl: Have now added 5000mg of biotin/per day to my vitamins. Doctor told me Saturday, that once I stabilize, so will my hair. Please God, make it so! Apparently, too rapid a weight loss can have a similar affect on your body, as an eating disorder does.  :???:

I've lost 40lb, and that was done by Christmas. I'd still like to lose about 7 more, but the guys and RB told me I was getting too thin. I've pretty much added everything back into my diet, except for excess sweets. The doctor asked me on Saturday how much more I wanted to lose, because he said he didn't want me to lose much more.

Be careful of the non-fat, low-fat, "lite" stuff.....when they take out the fat content, it's replaced with carbs.  :o The carb content on some of that stuff is incredible. I've become a "nutrition label reader", and have been really surprised by stuff that I thought was supposed to be healthy, is really not.

Any type of berry is good, particularly blueberries. Apples, grapes (  :bawl: ) and oranges are bad. Water amount is supposed to be about 2/3 of your weight.

Because of the low carbs, instead of fueling your body on carbs, you fuel it with stored fat. It's been amazing how the inches have come off!! They came off much faster than the weight loss would have indicated. Seeing the difference in the way my clothes fit, was more encouraging than any weight loss.  :yahoo:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 15, 2011, 11:07:23 AM
Ok.  I can hang with that.  I drink my coffee straight up.  I think I will have to check that out. 

coffee sucks
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 11:10:34 AM
coffee sucks

 :yahoo: someone else feels about coffee the way I do!!  :yahoo:

Hmmmm....both redheads, like to fish, and don't like coffee. How do you feel about chocolate?

Are you another long lost sister that I haven't found out about yet?  :confused:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 11:14:55 AM
Deb, you're spot-on about the so-called "lite" stuff. Mrs. E bought some "lite" salad dressing and while it isn't loaded with sugar, it's got more than regular ranch dressing! And she didn't want to believe me when I told her, so I had to paint the freakin' label on her forehead.  :bash:

Yeah, she started the diet before I did and looked like she was having so much fun I decided to join her.

Eggs - I try to limit the number of eggs I have to no more than a dozen per week. I don't have high cholesterol necessarily, but too much of anything ain't real good.

And fruit - according to the doc who wrote this book, fruit like watermelon, pineapple, bananas, and grapes are not good. But I'll eat a Fuji apple in a NY minute and the pounds are falling off. And yep, blueberries and strawberries go in my nonfat yogurt in the morning. This morning I was allowed to have steel-cut oatmeal. Mrs. E went ga-ga about that, but to hell with that - give me Quaker old-fashioned oatmeal and I'm a happy, full camper.

Of course, I'm still very new in this thing - only 17 days. Gotta ways to go till I get to where I wanna be.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 15, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
:yahoo: someone else feels about coffee the way I do!!  :yahoo:

Hmmmm....both redheads, like to fish, and don't like coffee. How do you feel about chocolate?

Are you another long lost sister that I haven't found out about yet?  :confused:

I don't hate it, but I don't eat it often.  I never have had bday cakes, frosting freaks the shit out of me when I taste it, its like there is sugar rusing through my veins, I get all high feeling.  I like salty stuff more than sweets.  I also have never had a cavity or broken bone :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
Deb, you're spot-on about the so-called "lite" stuff. Mrs. E bought some "lite" salad dressing and while it isn't loaded with sugar, it's got more than regular ranch dressing! And she didn't want to believe me when I told her, so I had to paint the freakin' label on her forehead.  :bash:

Yeah, she started the diet before I did and looked like she was having so much fun I decided to join her.

Eggs - I try to limit the number of eggs I have to no more than a dozen per week. I don't have high cholesterol necessarily, but too much of anything ain't real good.

And fruit - according to the doc who wrote this book, fruit like watermelon, pineapple, bananas, and grapes are not good. But I'll eat a Fuji apple in a NY minute and the pounds are falling off. And yep, blueberries and strawberries go in my nonfat yogurt in the morning. This morning I was allowed to have steel-cut oatmeal. Mrs. E went ga-ga about that, but to hell with that - give me Quaker old-fashioned oatmeal and I'm a happy, full camper.

Of course, I'm still very new in this thing - only 17 days. Gotta ways to go till I get to where I wanna be.

Might want to check out the carbs in your nonfat yogurt...you will be appalled! There's almost a full day's worth of carbs in one little container.

Get Greek yogurt...the regular kind, not the nonfat. Very similar to sour cream, I think of Frank every time I fix a bowl of it.  :-) Very high in protein and low in carbs. In a cup, I put about 1 tsp of honey in it with about half a cup of blueberries. That's a meal for me, usually lunch.

On my diet, regular ranch, blue cheese and vinegrettes are the only salad dressings allowed. Which makes me perfectly happy. I eat the ranch on carrot sticks, and stick with vinegrettes for salads. 

Made a bread pudding with Italian panettone and semi-sweet chocolate chips last night, with an orange/butter/cinnamon sauce. Not sure what category it's going to fit into, but I'm going to find one, cause I'm going to eat some of it!!  :yahoo:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
Might want to check out the carbs in your nonfat yogurt...you will be appalled! There's almost a full day's worth of carbs in one little container.

Get Greek yogurt...the regular kind, not the nonfat. Very similar to sour cream, I think of Frank every time I fix a bowl of it.  :-) Very high in protein and low in carbs. In a cup, I put about 1 tsp of honey in it with about half a cup of blueberries. That's a meal for me, usually lunch.

On my diet, regular ranch, blue cheese and vinegrettes are the only salad dressings allowed. Which makes me perfectly happy. I eat the ranch on carrot sticks, and stick with vinegrettes for salads. 

Made a bread pudding with Italian panettone and semi-sweet chocolate chips last night, with an orange/butter/cinnamon sauce. Not sure what category it's going to fit into, but I'm going to find one, cause I'm going to eat some of it!!  :yahoo:

I'll check it out, but we get plain, nonfat yogurt. I mix fruit in it or sugar-free preserves.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 12:24:50 PM
coffee sucks

Oh yeah?  Well it said you suck too!   :naughty:



Additionally, most "lite" stuff has added sodium to make it taste good.  
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 12:29:14 PM
I'll check it out, but we get plain, nonfat yogurt. I mix fruit in it or sugar-free preserves.

I'm talking about the PLAIN non-fat.

Dannon plain nonfat:

Quote
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 6 oz (170.0 g)
 
Amount Per Serving
Calories 80Calories from Fat 0
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.0g0%
Saturated Fat 0.0g0%
Trans Fat 0.0g
Cholesterol 5mg2%
Sodium 115mg5%
Total Carbohydrates 12.0g4%
Sugars 12.0g
Protein 8.0g
 
Vitamin A 0% • Vitamin C 4%
Calcium 30% • Iron 1%
 
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet


Dannon Greek Plain

Quote
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 container (150.0 g)
 
Amount Per Serving
Calories 80Calories from Fat 0
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.0g0%
Saturated Fat 0.0g0%
Trans Fat 0.0g
Cholesterol 10mg3%
Sodium 50mg2%
Total Carbohydrates 6.0g2%
Sugars 6.0g
Protein 15.0g
 
Vitamin A 0% • Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 15% • Iron 0%
 
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet


Check out the differences in the carbs and proteins...they are almost reversed.  :tongue:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 02:00:37 PM
I'm talking about the PLAIN non-fat.

Dannon plain nonfat:

Dannon Greek Plain

Check out the differences in the carbs and proteins...they are almost reversed.  :tongue:

Okay, looks good to me. Thanks!

Mrs E will have to get this stuff down in Columbia (where all the freakin' libs and yuppies live) because the home boys up here don't need no Greek yogurt a'tall.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 02:05:08 PM
Okay, looks good to me. Thanks!

Mrs E will have to get this stuff down in Columbia (where all the freakin' libs and yuppies live) because the home boys up here don't need no Greek yogurt a'tall.

Walmart has it. So does Kroger's. Don't think our other chains would be in MO.

It's rapidly becoming quite popular, just because it's lower in carbs and higher in proteins. It's more the consistency of sour cream too.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 15, 2011, 02:26:10 PM
coffee sucks
Oh yeah?  Well it said you suck too!   :naughty:


I LIVE for coffee, but it can't be the cheap crap like Folgers. I get Columbian beans from Sams and grind them myself (or rather Inga does) and use a stove top percolator to get it to the strength I enjoy. (close to "chewable")
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
I LIVE for coffee, but it can't be the cheap crap like Folgers. I get Columbian beans from Sams and grind them myself (or rather Inga does) and use a stove top percolator to get it to the strength I enjoy. (close to "chewable")

I get the same ones.  In a red metallic bag?  I need to get another percolator or french press.  The friggin Mr. Coffee is lame-o.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 15, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
I get the same ones.  In a red metallic bag?  I need to get another percolator or french press.  The friggin Mr. Coffee is lame-o.

Yessm, that be them!! :coffee:

I got my percolator from Walmart in the camping section. It's a nice stainless steel one.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 02:36:15 PM
Yessm, that be them!! :coffee:

I got my percolator from Walmart in the camping section. It's a nice stainless steel one.

Would it work on a flat top electric???

Oh yeah.....Sorry Euph!

 :jacked:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 15, 2011, 02:44:55 PM
Would it work on a flat top electric???

Oh yeah.....Sorry Euph!

 :jacked:

You mean a regular electric and not an induction type?? If yes, then, yes, it should.  It's quality stainless steel, so it's non-magnetic.

It's this one:  (http://compare.ebay.com/like/310295631181?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=210627764850&crlp=1_263602_304662&UA=%3F*F%3F&GUID=2b10bc0512e0a0a9eef24712fd9525b3&itemid=310295631181&ff4=263602_304662)

Looks like Walmart no longer carries it. :(
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on February 15, 2011, 02:48:12 PM
You mean a regular electric and not an induction type?? If yes, then, yes, it should.  It's quality stainless steel, so it's non-magnetic.

It's this one:  (http://compare.ebay.com/like/310295631181?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=210627764850&crlp=1_263602_304662&UA=%3F*F%3F&GUID=2b10bc0512e0a0a9eef24712fd9525b3&itemid=310295631181&ff4=263602_304662)

Looks like Walmart no longer carries it. :(

Yeah, a regular electric, not an induction.  Cool beans, I will take a look.  Probably would work faster and stay warmer than a french press.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 15, 2011, 02:48:56 PM
Yeah, a regular electric, not an induction.  Cool beans, I will take a look.  Probably would work faster and stay warmer than a french press.

Here's a pic:

(http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/805B712T_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 15, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
I'm late to this party, but shouldn't you be eating GOOD carbohydrates?  Our bodies need to be fueled by carbohydrates.  I've always found this site helpful.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/carbohydrates-full-story/index.html

Diets like the one you and your wife are on never work for me.  Healthy eating and exercise is the only thing that works.  If you don't get enough carbs, your body will start to "shut down".  I'm not a nutritionalist, but always weary of the "cut out the carbs" type of diets, even if it's just temporarily.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 03:33:48 PM
Would it work on a flat top electric???

Oh yeah.....Sorry Euph!

 :jacked:

I hijack threads all the time - I figure thread titles are just a beginning. The thread goes wherever it's supposed to go.  :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 15, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
I hijack threads all the time - I figure thread titles are just a beginning. The thread goes wherever it's supposed to go.  :rotf:

This is an understatement........
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
I'm late to this party, but shouldn't you be eating GOOD carbohydrates?  Our bodies need to be fueled by carbohydrates.  I've always found this site helpful.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/carbohydrates-full-story/index.html

Diets like the one you and your wife are on never work for me.  Healthy eating and exercise is the only thing that works.  If you don't get enough carbs, your body will start to "shut down".  I'm not a nutritionalist, but always weary of the "cut out the carbs" type of diets, even if it's just temporarily.

The "no carb" thing is pretty much a misnomer - even veggies have a certain amount of carbs, and fruits certainly do in the form of fructose (natural, not synthesized). By reducing carbs in the diet, the body has no choice but to burn fat. And as noted above, the problem with that after awhile is the body tends to think it's being starved and begins to shut down metabolism, which isn't a good thing. So what this doc does is embark on a program that "fools" the body into thinking that all is well, it's perfectly fine to continue burning fat because we're eating okay. Apparently, the 17-day cycle was chosen deliberately because that's when most people's metabolism begins to slow down on a reduced-carb diet. Metabolism that's slowed results in a dieter "plateauing" and that leads to frustration and disappointment in the quest to lose weight, and thus, most diets that restrict one thing or another fail for a lot of people.

In a perfect world, you're right. If we'd all eat healthily and exercise the way God intended us to, we wouldn't have problems. But I ain't perfect. And since I've had to give up other vices (smoking and drinking) and resort to chasing only one woman, I ain't too proud to eat more than I should. So I tend to gain weight when I'm in lazy mode.

Weight control has been an issue my entire life, so I have to do things to keep from blowing up like a balloon.

This diet, more than anything, forces me to eat the following:

Green leafy vegetables
Other types of raw veggies
Fruit
Lean meats/poultry
Non fat dairy
Spare amounts of whole grains (in the later cycles)

That looks like healthy eating to me!   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Boudicca on February 15, 2011, 03:57:07 PM
Eupher, I wish you and Mrs. E the best of luck on this diet. :cheersmate:
As for me, over the years I have discovered that I have to count calories and do a moderate amount of exercise if I want to keep from becoming HUGE.  I gave up the battle of being slender at least 20 years ago. :whistling:
As for what I eat, I haven't found that it matters, only the calories themselves.  Of course, it's much easier for me to STOP eating when what I'm eating isn't addictive (to me), so called trigger foods.
I don't have a trigger foods list, I have a frikkin dictionary.  I love to eat. :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
I'm late to this party, but shouldn't you be eating GOOD carbohydrates?  Our bodies need to be fueled by carbohydrates.  I've always found this site helpful.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/carbohydrates-full-story/index.html

Diets like the one you and your wife are on never work for me.  Healthy eating and exercise is the only thing that works.  If you don't get enough carbs, your body will start to "shut down".  I'm not a nutritionalist, but always weary of the "cut out the carbs" type of diets, even if it's just temporarily.


"Good" carbs is a relative term. Whether sugar or a starch which always converts to sugar, in excess, is never a good thing. Even whole milk, is full of sugar -lactose.

Protein helps build and retain muscle. Reducing carbs, forces the body to feed on it's abundance of fat cells, thus reducing the amount of fat deposits in the body.

When I was your age ( I know...that's a wicked awful phrase, but in this instance, true), all I had to do was to eat reasonably healthy, and stay active. I was 26 when I had my first child, gained 80LBs with her, and was back in my "real" clothes for my 6wk check-up. I was taking in a lot of calories, as I was breast-feeding, but after the first 10 days, the weight just dropped off. When my daughter was a week old, I was at the grocery, and the checkout clerk asked me when my baby was due...I was still so big. I cried in the car, all the way home.  :(

I was in my early 50's before I got to the point where I couldn't just lose a couple of pounds quickly. Up until then, depending on my stress level, I was always in a 4 or a 6. About 4 years ago, combining depression eating and a sugar addiction, my body clung to everything I ate.  :bawl:

Pounds do drop off of men much quicker than they do women. We are sooooo blessed with an abundance of fat cells, that men are not, because our bodies are made for having babies and sustaining them for 9 months.

Also, the more weight a person has to lose, the quicker it will drop off - at first. As the weight amount becomes less, the body will work harder to keep it, and the amount lost will usually drop down to only a pound or two per week.

In my case this past fall, because I was having to totally change what I was eating, my metabolism apparently went into panic mode, and I only lost about 10lbs, the first two months. It was depressing, but the doctor said that was the best way to lose it. Then as my metabolism readjusted to the way it used to be, and my diet was closer to what it used to be....the pounds dropped off too fast, which is why I'm having the hair loss. Now, I'm trying to stabilize my metabolism, but still lose a bit more.

Everybody's metabolism is different though, regardless of any diet. What works for one, may not work for another. RB and I are on the same diet, yet she also has had to really watch her fat and calorie intake, as just reducing carbs was not enough for her. She has been much more careful, the entire time, in following the diet than I have been, yet I've lost about 5 more pounds and a whole lot more inches. She's not losing her hair either.  :(
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
Eupher, I wish you and Mrs. E the best of luck on this diet. :cheersmate:
As for me, over the years I have discovered that I have to count calories and do a moderate amount of exercise if I want to keep from becoming HUGE.  I gave up the battle of being slender at least 20 years ago. :whistling:
As for what I eat, I haven't found that it matters, only the calories themselves.  Of course, it's much easier for me to STOP eating when what I'm eating isn't addictive (to me), so called trigger foods.
I don't have a trigger foods list, I have a frikkin dictionary.  I love to eat. :bawl:

Thank you. When I was active duty, I had to do much more physical work to keep the weight off, but I had both the motivation and time. And my body cooperated. After 13 marathons, some 250 half-marathons, and God-knows-how-many-other-training miles, my knees just laugh at me if I want to run. So I began swimming, and that worked wonderfully. There's just one problem with that. You have to have a pool. Now I have an elliptical exerciser, which works fine - in fact I burned up the first one and had to buy a commercial-grade machine because I tend to wear the damned things out!

Time is also a factor. I'm up at 4:30 a.m. to do all the shit I'm supposed to do during the day, and when I get home at 5:15 p.m., there are the animals to deal with, dinner to cook, and practicing at least an hour. That takes me to 9 p.m., when I turn into a zombie and totter off to bed. I get up and do it all over again.

Exercising - I have to MAKE time for it. It doesn't happen easily.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Boudicca on February 15, 2011, 04:15:36 PM
Thank you. When I was active duty, I had to do much more physical work to keep the weight off, but I had both the motivation and time. And my body cooperated. After 13 marathons, some 250 half-marathons, and God-knows-how-many-other-training miles, my knees just laugh at me if I want to run. So I began swimming, and that worked wonderfully. There's just one problem with that. You have to have a pool. Now I have an elliptical exerciser, which works fine - in fact I burned up the first one and had to buy a commercial-grade machine because I tend to wear the damned things out!

Time is also a factor. I'm up at 4:30 a.m. to do all the shit I'm supposed to do during the day, and when I get home at 5:15 p.m., there are the animals to deal with, dinner to cook, and practicing at least an hour. That takes me to 9 p.m., when I turn into a zombie and totter off to bed. I get up and do it all over again.

Exercising - I have to MAKE time for it. It doesn't happen easily.


I absolutely dreaded those monthly weigh ins, since I was always almost on the fat person program.  The Army standards are tough.  Hated PT as well.  Now my body craves movement.  I guess I have trained it these past years.  I love to walk and listen to my music, but it gets so damn hot here for many months and the walkers at the Mall get on my last nerve sometimes.  There are shitty drivers, and they are probably the same ones blocking my progress at the Mall as well. :banghead:
So, hubby went out and bought me a stationary bike, which I absolutely LOVE to use and it is even more convenient than walking, since I can sit on it in my p.j.'s.  I tried it while listening to music and also with a movie on, but the best way for me was to read a book while cycling.  I love to read anyway, and it's always great to combine two activities in one.  Plus, the bike is much easier on my feet, knees and all the bones in between.
You said you need to make dinner in the evening.  Any way to cut down on the prep time?  Which reminds me, I gotta go for a bit and make my homemade guacamole.  It needs to set for a few hours in the fridge.  But, for dinner I'm "cooking" Safeway Select beef enchilada entres.   :drool:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 04:18:50 PM

I absolutely dreaded those monthly weigh ins, since I was always almost on the fat person program.  The Army standards are tough.  Hated PT as well.  Now my body craves movement.  I guess I have trained it these past years.  I love to walk and listen to my music, but it gets so damn hot here for many months and the walkers at the Mall get on my last nerve sometimes.  There are shitty drivers, and they are probably the same ones blocking my progress at the Mall as well. :banghead:
So, hubby went out and bought me a stationary bike, which I absolutely LOVE to use and it is even more convenient than walking, since I can sit on it in my p.j.'s.  I tried it while listening to music and also with a movie on, but the best way for me was to read a book while cycling.  I love to read anyway, and it's always great to combine two activities in one.  Plus, the bike is much easier on my feet, knees and all the bones in between.
You said you need to make dinner in the evening.  Any way to cut down on the prep time?  Which reminds me, I gotta go for a bit and make my homemade guacamole.  It needs to set for a few hours in the fridge.  But, for dinner I'm "cooking" Safeway Select beef enchilada entres.   :drool:

When you're eating healthy, you can't really prep much. Veggies and salads have to be done up just before eating. I'll do up chicken breasts or fish, and it's the same thing. It takes awhile. Then, the fun really starts when Phoebe, our Congo African grey parrot, decides she wants to "help".  :argh:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 15, 2011, 04:19:29 PM
Exercising - I have to MAKE time for it. It doesn't happen easily.

I'm allergic to exercise.

Trying to talk M into an elliptical. He likes the treadmill, I hate it. We had this fancy-schmancy stationary bike that had belonged to his dad, but M thought it was boring and it made my tush hurt, so he sold it.

He has a realllllllly bad knee (3 surgeries, absolutely no cartilage left and needs a replacement but won't even consider it) and I think the elliptical would be better for him.

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Boudicca on February 15, 2011, 04:21:21 PM
When you're eating healthy, you can't really prep much. Veggies and salads have to be done up just before eating. I'll do up chicken breasts or fish, and it's the same thing. It takes awhile. Then, the fun really starts when Phoebe, our Congo African grey parrot, decides she wants to "help".  :argh:
Does Phoebe like to "help" by taste testing? :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
Does Phoebe like to "help" by taste testing? :-)

Yep, and messing with stuff on the counter and dropping shit on the floor, and otherwise ****ING UP MY PROGRAM. OUT OF MY KITCHEN, DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

 :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Wineslob on February 15, 2011, 04:27:53 PM
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Is Mrs. E doing as well? M can lose weight so much easier than I can. I swear, all he has to do is think about it, and can lose 3-5 pounds.  



I call that "taking a dump".     :-)

I've posted about this before, but what I've done for the past 4+ years is just watch total caloric intake.

If you want to weigh, say (female) 120 lbs add a "0" to the 120. Thats your total intake for the day.
I was nearly 260 lbs at one time. Using this method I maintain about 225, give or take a dump or two.  :wink:

I did cut down on carbs, but I LOVE bread, so I substitute fake eggs (carton) and only have 2 pieces of toast in the morning, with Smart Balance on it. I get my "fix" this way.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 15, 2011, 05:17:59 PM
Eupher, you do know that bitchslaps have about 10grams of carbs each :whistling:?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 05:57:44 PM
Eupher, you do know that bitchslaps have about 10grams of carbs each :whistling:?

Not on my diet, they don't.

My head spins around so fast after each bitchslap that my neck works off all that stuff.

 :yahoo:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 15, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Not on my diet, they don't.

My head spins around so fast after each bitchslap that my neck works off all that stuff.

 :yahoo:

that's what the hooker said
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 15, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
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Pounds do drop off of men much quicker than they do women.

That is 10000000x true!  My husband dropped 50 lbs in a couple of months.  I hate him.  :rotf:

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Also, the more weight a person has to lose, the quicker it will drop off - at first. As the weight amount becomes less, the body will work harder to keep it, and the amount lost will usually drop down to only a pound or two per week.

True true.  I only average a pound or a pound and a half every week.

Carbohydrates always make my head hurt.  We love pasta in our household.  We don't eat it every day, but we really do enjoy it.  And when I was pregnant with Carleigh, I craved pizza.  Every day.  So when it comes to carbs, I do have a hard time saying no. 

And why are oranges so bad?  Is it just because of their water content?   I only ask because I eat two oranges at night after my workouts.  lol
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 10:53:16 PM
That is 10000000x true!  My husband dropped 50 lbs in a couple of months.  I hate him.  :rotf:

True true.  I only average a pound or a pound and a half every week.

Carbohydrates always make my head hurt.  We love pasta in our household.  We don't eat it every day, but we really do enjoy it.  And when I was pregnant with Carleigh, I craved pizza.  Every day.  So when it comes to carbs, I do have a hard time saying no. 

And why are oranges so bad?  Is it just because of their water content?   I only ask because I eat two oranges at night after my workouts.  lol

Well, I'm no doc, but I'd say that oranges have a relatively high fructose level - they're awfully sweet. At least the good ones are.

It's true about the more one weighs, the more one loses (at the start). Then it starts getting tough......
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 15, 2011, 10:54:08 PM
that's what the hooker said

I couldn't catch what the hooker said because my head was spinning around too fast. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 08:20:35 AM
That is 10000000x true!  My husband dropped 50 lbs in a couple of months.  I hate him.  :rotf:

True true.  I only average a pound or a pound and a half every week.

Carbohydrates always make my head hurt.  We love pasta in our household.  We don't eat it every day, but we really do enjoy it.  And when I was pregnant with Carleigh, I craved pizza.  Every day.  So when it comes to carbs, I do have a hard time saying no. 

And why are oranges so bad?  Is it just because of their water content?   I only ask because I eat two oranges at night after my workouts.  lol


Orange facts:

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Nutrition Information for Oranges:
The following nutrition information is for one serving of an orange. That would be about one orange about two and one-half to three inches in diameter, or 131 grams. This general information is for all varieties of raw oranges.

Macronutrients:
Water: 113.64 g

Calories: 62

Protein: 1.23 g

Carbohydrates: 15.39 g

Fiber: 3.1 g

Sugars: 12.25 g

Total Fat: 0.16 g

http://nutrition.about.com/od/fruitsandvegetables/p/oranges.htm
 

I found this back in the summer on juices compared with Coke....I was shocked!!

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12 ounces of >>>>>>>  Coca-Cola   Orange Juice  Apple Juice  Cherry Juice   Grape Juice
Total carbohydrates                     40 g          39 g            42 g            49.5 g              60 g
Carbs from sugar                         40 g           33 g            39 g           37.5 g              58.5 g
Sugar (teaspoons)                       10 tsp         8 tsp          10 tsp         9 tsp               15 tsp
Calories                                     145            165            165              210                  240
 


Don't know about the rest of you, but my kids rarely got pop when they were little...but they went through apple and grape juice by the gallons!!! Good thing they both have really high metabolisms....even at their current ages - 29 and 31 - because they both still drink a lot of apple juice.  :thatsright:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 08:23:36 AM
Dropped another pound.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 08:32:21 AM
Dropped another pound.

Peed and pooped first before you weighed, huh?  :tongue:

You are really going to tick off Mrs. E if you keep dropping them so fast!!  :hammer:

Seriously, though, I'm happy for you that you are doing so well. Changing eating habits are really hard for us food-loving cooks.  :bawl:

I was "bad" last night....not only did I have a mug of home-made tomato basil soup - which wasn't tooooo terribly bad, just didn't eat any protein with it. I only had half a mug, cause I followed it with warmed up bread pudding I made the night before.  :whistling:

I used an Italian panettone for the bread, put semi-sweet chocolate chips all through the cubes, and made a cinnamon egg cream custard to pour over it. Then made a warm butter orange/cinnamon sauce for the top.  :drool: I did only eat a 2x2x2" cube of it though.  :-)

Two hours later, I was eating nuts to get some protein and stop the "sugar shakes".... :banghead:


Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
Peed and pooped first before you weighed, huh?  :tongue:

You are really going to tick off Mrs. E if you keep dropping them so fast!!  :hammer:

Seriously, though, I'm happy for you that you are doing so well. Changing eating habits are really hard for us food-loving cooks.  :bawl:

I was "bad" last night....not only did I have a mug of home-made tomato basil soup - which wasn't tooooo terribly bad, just didn't eat any protein with it. I only had half a mug, cause I followed it with warmed up bread pudding I made the night before.  :whistling:

I used an Italian panettone for the bread, put semi-sweet chocolate chips all through the cubes, and made a cinnamon egg cream custard to pour over it. Then made a warm butter orange/cinnamon sauce for the top.  :drool: I did only eat a 2x2x2" cube of it though.  :-)

Two hours later, I was eating nuts to get some protein and stop the "sugar shakes".... :banghead:


But of course! I always weigh lightest after my morning constitutional. Don't you?  :lmao:

Yeah, Mrs E isn't too fond of me right now. She actually said, in a somewhat icy tone, "You know, our weight loss is probably about the same when you calculate it on a percentage of body weight basis."  :rotf:

I said, "I'm sure you're right, dear."

I am addicted to food - usually the wrong kind of food. Ice cream is my worst. I can dispose of a quart of butter pecan faster than you can dispose of a handful of nuts, and enjoy the brain freeze in the process.   :p
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 16, 2011, 08:40:38 AM
Dropped another pound.

after coffee? :whistling:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 08:42:08 AM
after coffee? :whistling:

Nope, before. After I stagger out of bed and whiz, I climb on the digital scale and let 'er rip.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on February 16, 2011, 08:43:05 AM
Nope, before. After I stagger out of bed and whiz, I climb on the digital scale and let 'er rip.

great visual :lmao:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 08:47:45 AM
great visual :lmao:

Oddly enough, a couple of side benefits from this diet (no joke) result.

(This gets into the realm of TMI, but since this is my thread, I don't give a rip (pun fully intended)):

* Mrs. E says that my snoring has STOPPED.

* Farting/excess gas is vastly reduced, almost gone. In fact, BMs all the way around are few and far between. Now that really surprises me with all the veggies and fiber and all, but it's true. Once every 2 or 3 days -- seriously.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 09:20:44 AM
Oddly enough, a couple of side benefits from this diet (no joke) result.

(This gets into the realm of TMI, but since this is my thread, I don't give a rip (pun fully intended)):

* Mrs. E says that my snoring has STOPPED.

* Farting/excess gas is vastly reduced, almost gone. In fact, BMs all the way around are few and far between. Now that really surprises me with all the veggies and fiber and all, but it's true. Once every 2 or 3 days -- seriously.


I will join you in the TMI....I will try to be as "delicate" as possible... :-)

Prior to the diet, I was lucky to "poops" once or twice a week, and it was like I had become a rabbit!  :banghead:

When RB and I started the diet, we both did this "cleanse" thing, which was recommended to remove toxins and ready the body for a serious nutritional change. That was really an experience.  :thatsright: Ten days of taking 7 capsules at one time, 3x's a day.

It worked on her. Immediately. Then she went from being a daily regular, to like you, once or twice a week. She's still that way, 6.5 months later.

Me? It was like I acquired a cork!   :censored: I gained 14 pounds in those first 7 days.  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: I was not only physically miserable, but this was the first time I had ever really dieted, and I was a total bitch, in sugar withdrawals, because I was following the diet perfectly. If the two of us hadn't been doing it together and I wasn't so competitive...I really would have quit.  :censored:

Then I decided, I would have some M&M's every night, for my mental health. The cork popped and all I can say is, I can't believe I didn't have brown eyes, as the phrase "you are full of shit" took on a new meaning!!!  ::) ::) ::)

Not sure what happened then, or continues to happen, but "things" haven't changed much since. The food intake isn't sticking around long enough, to absorb much of any type of nutrition.  :whatever: Good thing I'm taking all kinds of vitamins and nutriet supplements.  :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 09:24:40 AM
Wow, sort of interesting in a clinical way.

Mrs E and I use a LOT less TP than we used to........Our lagoon is grateful.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 09:40:30 AM
Wow, sort of interesting in a clinical way.

Mrs E and I use a LOT less TP than we used to........Our lagoon is grateful.


I was trying really hard to be as ungraphic as possible.   :-)

RB and I cracked up one day, when we realized we had just spent 45 minutes discussing how our bodily functions had changed.

It was one of those "Oh no!" moments.....and we decided we were practicing for when we get to the old folks' home.  :lmao:

If you aren't peein' about evey hour and a half or so, you aren't drinking enough water....
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 09:46:52 AM

I was trying really hard to be as ungraphic as possible.   :-)

RB and I cracked up one day, when we realized we had just spent 45 minutes discussing how our bodily functions had changed.

It was one of those "Oh no!" moments.....and we decided we were practicing for when we get to the old folks' home.  :lmao:

If you aren't peein' about evey hour and a half or so, you aren't drinking enough water....

Oh, trust me. It's about every 20 minutes when I get to work because at that point, I've already had, in order:

1.  One coffee-cup of hot lemon-water (juice of one-half lemon mixed with hot water for a sort of "tea".
2.  One 20 oz. glass of water for vitamins.
3.  One large cup of black coffee.
4.  One coffee-cup of green tea with breakfast.

I'm pissing like a racehorse and it's a major PITA, but hey, it works.

All together, I'm drinking somewhere between one-half to 3/4 of a gallon of water a day. That does NOT include the lemon-water, green tea, and coffee all of which are considered "negative water."
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2011, 09:48:08 AM
According to the doc who developed the diet, the lemon-water is supposed to jumpstart your digestion process. Maybe that's why the BMs have slowed to a crawl..... :whatever:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 16, 2011, 10:04:29 AM
Mine slowed to a crawl many years ago..... Every four to seven days.......

Inga has made me start taking some of those "cleanse" pills. Unless I take a whole bunch at once and for a few times  day, they don't work. I could get REALLY graphic, but I'll choose not to. Just go ahead and thank me now!!  :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 10:12:50 AM
Mine slowed to a crawl many years ago..... Every four to seven days.......

Inga has made me start taking some of those "cleanse" pills. Unless I take a whole bunch at once and for a few times  day, they don't work. I could get REALLY graphic, but I'll choose not to. Just go ahead and thank me now!!  :-)

You need to stay with them. Mine came in little packets of 7 pills, and one packet was to be taken 3 times a day. I have no clue what all was in them, but I'm guessing from the way my body ballooned out, they had to be like those capsule thingies you can buy in a toy store or novelty store....you put one in the sink filled with water, and the capsule turns into a 5x5" toy.  :banghead:

Like I said, when they all kicked in...OH. MY. I swear though, before they did, I felt like I was a ragdoll with way to much stuffing and I was going to explode at the seams.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Chris_ on February 16, 2011, 10:14:21 AM
What the hell is wrong with you people?  Once a week?  :-)

I go every day whether I want to or not.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 10:16:10 AM
What the hell is wrong with you people?  Once a week?  :-)

I go every day whether I want to or not.


Enjoy it, Grasshopper....

We're all over 50.

Your turn is comin'...... :tongue:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 16, 2011, 11:01:10 AM
 
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12 ounces of >>>>>>>  Coca-Cola   Orange Juice  Apple Juice  Cherry Juice   Grape Juice
Total carbohydrates                     40 g          39 g            42 g            49.5 g              60 g
Carbs from sugar                         40 g           33 g            39 g           37.5 g              58.5 g
Sugar (teaspoons)                       10 tsp         8 tsp          10 tsp         9 tsp               15 tsp
Calories                                     145            165            165              210                  240
 

Well then, I am done buying oranges and orange juice.  I gained a pound last night.  I'll blame it on the oranges and orange juice I am so addicted to right now.

Dropped another pound.

That's awesome!  Keep up the great work.  :)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 16, 2011, 11:28:51 AM

Well then, I am done buying oranges and orange juice.  I gained a pound last night.  I'll blame it on the oranges and orange juice I am so addicted to right now.

That's awesome!  Keep up the great work.  :)


I've become addicted to "fizzy water". I like Walmart's the best, only because it's "no sodium, no calories, no caffeine"....it's the only one I've been able to find, that has no sodium. All the others have some amount, and I don't like the way it tastes.

It's 98cents for a 2-liter bottle and I drink about 1.5-2 per day. It comes in several different fruit flavors, but I like the key lime the best, the others taste too sweet to me. I tried the peach and the black cherry and they were like drinking sugar water! The white grape tastes just like white grape juice.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 24, 2011, 12:55:11 PM
Well, I had a minor setback over the past weekend when I was out of town participating in a conference. This diet is great, but trying to eat low to no carbs ain't easy on the road.

For three days this week I cut out carbs and fat and ate Greek yogurt (thanks deb!) with a bit of fruit, and no carbs at all after 2 p.m.

As of this morning, I am 18 lbs. lighter, so the minor setback was easily breached.

Or is that beached? Like a beached whale....... :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 24, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
Well, I had a minor setback over the past weekend when I was out of town participating in a conference. This diet is great, but trying to eat low to no carbs ain't easy on the road.

For three days this week I cut out carbs and fat and ate Greek yogurt (thanks deb!) with a bit of fruit, and no carbs at all after 2 p.m.

As of this morning, I am 18 lbs. lighter, so the minor setback was easily breached.

Or is that beached? Like a beached whale....... :-)


H5!!

You are allowed to slip. It's normal.

The dr where I go said never think about your "diet" tomorrow. Only think about it today and what you will eat today...and to control what you eat today. He said if you think about it into the future, you are destined to fail.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Ballygrl on February 24, 2011, 09:18:45 PM
Nope, before. After I stagger out of bed and whiz, I climb on the digital scale and let 'er rip.

We really need the girl/boy thingy's by our names, I thought Eupher was a woman LOL.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 24, 2011, 09:31:29 PM
We really need the girl/boy thingy's by our names, I thought Eupher was a woman LOL.

You just ain't been payin' attention. He's posted a few pics of himself.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,55464.msg631809.html#msg631809
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Ballygrl on February 24, 2011, 09:32:58 PM
You just ain't been payin' attention. He's posted a few pics of himself.

Oh! I didn't see those, what gave it away to me is the "whiz" comment LOL.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 24, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
Oh! I didn't see those, what gave it away to me is the "whiz" comment LOL.

You mean guys don't whiz? Then what the hell have I been doing on a regular basis for the past 54 years?!?   :confused:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Ballygrl on February 25, 2011, 08:10:06 AM
You mean guys don't whiz? Then what the hell have I been doing on a regular basis for the past 54 years?!?  :confused:

Women don't say whiz LOL.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 25, 2011, 08:25:22 AM
Women don't say whiz LOL.

Okay, I misunderstood your original post.

And yeah, women say "pee".

Anyway, I dropped another pound yesterday. I'm knocking on the -20 lb. door.  :yahoo:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 25, 2011, 08:27:53 AM

H5!!

You are allowed to slip. It's normal.

The dr where I go said never think about your "diet" tomorrow. Only think about it today and what you will eat today...and to control what you eat today. He said if you think about it into the future, you are destined to fail.

Grocery stores are really, really dangerous for me -- especially the bakery. Someone needs to put me in eye patches and have me carry a white cane to survive a shopping expedition. But hell, my nose would find the bakery anyway.  :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 25, 2011, 10:17:41 AM
Grocery stores are really, really dangerous for me -- especially the bakery. Someone needs to put me in eye patches and have me carry a white cane to survive a shopping expedition. But hell, my nose would find the bakery anyway.  :rotf:

I get pretty weak around the bakery. Fortunately, we typically shop at Walmart, so it's not too bad. Cub Foods, up North, has an AWESOME bakery.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: thundley4 on February 25, 2011, 10:23:04 AM
I get pretty weak around the bakery. Fortunately, we typically shop at Walmart, so it's not too bad. Cub Foods, up North, has an AWESOME bakery.

If your Cub Foods is the same as here, I agree.  You can almost get sugar shock and gain weight just walking through the bakery area.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 25, 2011, 10:33:05 AM
I get pretty weak around the bakery. Fortunately, we typically shop at Walmart, so it's not too bad. Cub Foods, up North, has an AWESOME bakery.

I have no trouble ignoring the bakery at Walmart, either. Ingles, or the rare times I get to a Publix, is a totally different story.  :drool: Both have wonderful apple fritters and the Publix in Key West has several Cuban items....oh. my.  :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Chris_ on February 25, 2011, 10:55:37 AM
Wal-Mart has loaf cake.  Must. Have. :drool:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 25, 2011, 11:15:21 AM
Wal-Mart has loaf cake.  Must. Have. :drool:

Everybody does here. Lemon is my favorite.  :drool:

I make it in a bundt form. Hmmm....may need to make one. M's been making several comments about the lack of homemade sweets around here lately.  :whatever:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 25, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
The apple fritters at Cub Foods were to die for!! :yum:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 25, 2011, 01:17:45 PM
The apple fritters at Cub Foods were to die for!! :yum:

 :bigbird:


 :crybaby:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 25, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
:bigbird:


 :crybaby:

 :evilbird: It's not like I can GET them any more......  :bawl: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 25, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
:evilbird: It's not like I can GET them any more......  :bawl: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

Why not? Truck run out of gas?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 25, 2011, 10:28:06 PM
Why not? Truck run out of gas?

NO, the nearest Cub Foods is some 900 miles away.... damned Tuba player.....
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 26, 2011, 01:33:31 AM
NO, the nearest Cub Foods is some 900 miles away.... damned Tuba player.....

You mean you're not so addicted that you won't climb in your truck and drive 900 miles to get fritters?!?

I guess they weren't to die for after all, were they?   :lmao:

Damned Squids........ :popcorn:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 26, 2011, 04:36:27 AM
You mean you're not so addicted that you won't climb in your truck and drive 900 miles to get fritters?!?

I guess they weren't to die for after all, were they?   :lmao:

Damned Squids........ :popcorn:

Well...... there's reason & stupidity.  Unless you have too much time & money you just don't know what to do with.......
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Randy on February 26, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
Just reading the first page so far and yep it sounds alot like Atkins.

I had to do a low carb/no sugar diet about 5 years ago when they thought I was diabetic. I tried Atkins and due to my being a picky SOB when it comes to eating things I had to modify it quite a bit. In the 6 weeks I did it I lost 25 lbs. That was enough to make my system normal again and the Doctors were happy.

On December 17th I got on the scale and about shit myself when I saw how much I weighed. I started my modified Atkins again. Low carbs, avoid sugar but not eliminate it, better, healthier bread. Avoid pastas and white processed flours. In the 10 weeks since I shocked myself I've lost 36 pounds. If I can double that and maybe 5 more I'll be down to fighting weight again.

Considering the last time I saw that weight was 15 years or so ago I should be able to maintain a decent weight for the rest of my productive life without getting anywhere near as large again.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on February 26, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
Just reading the first page so far and yep it sounds alot like Atkins.

I had to do a low carb/no sugar diet about 5 years ago when they thought I was diabetic. I tried Atkins and due to my being a picky SOB when it comes to eating things I had to modify it quite a bit. In the 6 weeks I did it I lost 25 lbs. That was enough to make my system normal again and the Doctors were happy.

On December 17th I got on the scale and about shit myself when I saw how much I weighed. I started my modified Atkins again. Low carbs, avoid sugar but not eliminate it, better, healthier bread. Avoid pastas and white processed flours. In the 10 weeks since I shocked myself I've lost 36 pounds. If I can double that and maybe 5 more I'll be down to fighting weight again.

Considering the last time I saw that weight was 15 years or so ago I should be able to maintain a decent weight for the rest of my productive life without getting anywhere near as large again.

 :bow:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Randy on February 28, 2011, 02:43:57 PM
:bow:

LOL Thanks I think.

Luckily, probably due to the being male thing ;) I've always had it easy when I decide I need to lose weight. Plus on an average day I walk 5 miles at work alone so I have the exercise part covered. :-)

I used to read the LVL threads with interest and his 1-2 lb or no loss weeks. He stated he wanted to lose but he really wasn't trying to awful hard from what I could see. Cut out the crap food and move a bit and it does wonders.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 28, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
Weighed myself yesterday.

I've lost 20 lbs. thus far. Three inches on the waistline.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on February 28, 2011, 03:07:01 PM
Weighed myself yesterday.

I've lost 20 lbs. thus far. Three inches on the waistline.

You just might fit into your uniform  that you retired in.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on February 28, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
You just might fit into your uniform  that you retired in.

Another 20 30lbs. and then MAYBE.

I starved myself while on active duty, now when the pressure's off, I eat. Hell, I don't drink and I don't smoke and I chase only one woman.

Eatin's all that's left!!!  :rotf:

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Randy on February 28, 2011, 05:22:10 PM
Another 20 30lbs. and then MAYBE.

I starved myself while on active duty, now when the pressure's off, I eat. Hell, I don't drink and I don't smoke and I chase only one woman.

Eatin's all that's left!!!  :rotf:



Big +1  :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 04, 2011, 06:40:02 AM
Entering Cycle 3 today. Weight loss to date - 24 lbs.

3+ inches on the waistline gone. I'm having to break into my "skinny" ( :lmao: ) pants.

I bought a new camel-hair coat about a month ago. I'm swimming in the damned thing now.  :p
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 04, 2011, 09:08:28 AM
Entering Cycle 3 today. Weight loss to date - 24 lbs.

3+ inches on the waistline gone. I'm having to break into my "skinny" ( :lmao: ) pants.

I bought a new camel-hair coat about a month ago. I'm swimming in the damned thing now.  :p

I went to my local Barnes and Nobles to get the book, and they won't have it until 3/15. WTF?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 04, 2011, 09:22:02 AM
I went to my local Barnes and Nobles to get the book, and they won't have it until 3/15. WTF?

One word: Amazon...... (the web site, not YOU!!)  :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 04, 2011, 09:22:51 AM
One word: Amazon...... (the web site, not YOU!!)  :rotf: :rotf:

I know.  I have a serious aversion to online shopping.  I am doomed. 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 04, 2011, 09:31:41 AM
I know.  I have a serious aversion to online shopping.  I am doomed.  

I did almost ALL of my Christmas shopping  from online this past Christmas and do as much shopping online now, as my needs &/or budget permits.  I just bought a nice Microsoft Wireless keyboard & mouse from Tiger Direct for $20 +shipping and tax. Didn't even have to leave the yard to get it.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 04, 2011, 09:41:17 AM
I know.  I have a serious aversion to online shopping.  I am doomed. 

I have been averse to Amazon also, until I checked it out late in the fall, looking for a Madame Alexander doll for my granddaughter's 1st birthday. I found an incredible selection! I was still hesitant to order, until I tried looking for one around here. That's all it took! Great price, and I would have gotten free shipping, except I was out of time and afraid to risk it, as it was it got here about 3 hours before her party.  :thatsright:

I ended up ordering grandson's birthday presents (Dec 7) Leapster2, case and game - Amazon had a package deal for the 3 and I saved about $20, and got free shipping!

Ended up ordering both kids Christmas presents, and only one was more - about $15 - than what it eventually went on sale for the week before Christmas, but since it was a Toys R Us "exclusive" I didn't want to risk it. I saved more than enough on the other stuff, that I was still under Target, TrU, or Walmart prices. All shipping was free(all arrived in 2 days!!), no sales tax (which is almost 10% here), and I didn't have to deal with the crowds...it was wonderful!!!

Amazon will be my choice shopping source again next Christmas!!

I should be a "Grammie spokeperson" for Amazon.... :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 04, 2011, 10:02:38 AM
I have been averse to Amazon also, until I checked it out late in the fall, looking for a Madame Alexander doll for my granddaughter's 1st birthday. I found an incredible selection! I was still hesitant to order, until I tried looking for one around here. That's all it took! Great price, and I would have gotten free shipping, except I was out of time and afraid to risk it, as it was it got here about 3 hours before her party.  :thatsright:

I ended up ordering grandson's birthday presents (Dec 7) Leapster2, case and game - Amazon had a package deal for the 3 and I saved about $20, and got free shipping!

Ended up ordering both kids Christmas presents, and only one was more - about $15 - than what it eventually went on sale for the week before Christmas, but since it was a Toys R Us "exclusive" I didn't want to risk it. I saved more than enough on the other stuff, that I was still under Target, TrU, or Walmart prices. All shipping was free(all arrived in 2 days!!), no sales tax (which is almost 10% here), and I didn't have to deal with the crowds...it was wonderful!!!

Amazon will be my choice shopping source again next Christmas!!

I should be a "Grammie spokeperson" for Amazon.... :-)

I've purchased books and most of my computer interface cables through amazon.com. They always seems to have the best prices on what I need. I haven't had any problems with amazon, whatsoever. As a matter of fact, the cables I've ordered have been surprisingly high quality for the price.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 04, 2011, 02:22:30 PM
Here's my basic 3rd cycle diet:

Pre-breakfast:
1 cup of hot water with lemon juice -- this gets the digestive process started, which is important to keep up the metabolism level

Breakfast:
One cup of Greek plain, non-fat yogurt with some fruit - strawberries or blueberries.
One scrambled egg (about 2-3 days a week -- not every day)
A cup of green tea

Lunch:
A big-assed salad of some type, with about 2 tablespoons of ranch dressing
One Fuji apple
More green tea

Dinner:
Veggies of some type - whether in a salad or grilled (like they have in the Macaroni Grill -- great stuff)
A big-assed skinless chicken breast, with maybe some pico de gallo on it. Sometimes a white fish like Swai, but I'm NOT  fish eater. So that's kinda seldom.
More green tea

I haven't had any beef in easily a month, and I don't miss it all that much (yeah, asshole -- you keep telling yourself that lie!)  :rotf:

I spend 35 - 40 minutes on the elliptical about 5 days a week.

I drink a half a gallon of water per day, with OCCASIONAL forays into a diet soda.

Once in awhile I sneak a chocolate bar with almonds or a couple of cookies and in this cycle, I'm permitted to eat a small amount of bread.

NO CARBS AFTER 2 P.M.

The first week was a bitch, because of the rut I'd eaten myself into, but it's really not so bad now. I think I can do this for awhile.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 04, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
That all looks really good.  I mean I eat all that stuff.  But no bacon?  No cheese?  No meat?  I weep.  :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 04, 2011, 03:27:41 PM
That all looks really good.  I mean I eat all that stuff.  But no bacon?  No cheese?  No meat?  I weep.  :bawl:


Go on mine...you get meat including pork bacon and sausage. All cheese except processed.  :yahoo:

If I had to eat chicken everyday, I would be wanting to slit my throat! Euph, you have my deepest admiration!!! :blowkiss:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 04, 2011, 07:48:29 PM

Go on mine...you get meat including pork bacon and sausage. All cheese except processed.  :yahoo:

If I had to eat chicken everyday, I would be wanting to slit my throat! Euph, you have my deepest admiration!!! :blowkiss:

yeah, but you've already lost your 40 lbs. I've got 40* lbs. TO GO.


*It could be less, depending how much I'm gonna hate chicken by the time I've done.

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Chris_ on March 04, 2011, 07:50:50 PM
Chicken is the shrimp of the ... sea.  Or something. 

I've never actually tried to get tired of chicken.  I suppose if I bought like fifty pounds of it and had to eat it all before it went bad before freezing any of it or ate it at every meal I might, but there are so many delicious and tasty ways to make chicken.  And then there's Shake 'n Bake.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 04, 2011, 07:52:08 PM
Chicken is the shrimp of the ... sea.  Or something. 

I've never actually tried to get tired of chicken.  I suppose if I bought like fifty pounds of it and had to eat it all before it went bad before freezing any of it I might, but there are so many delicious and tasty ways to make chicken.  And then there's Shake 'n Bake.

And Ah he'ped!

 :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Chris_ on March 04, 2011, 07:53:32 PM
I bought about five pounds of chicken breasts and a bunch of Shake 'n Bake because it was on sale.  You have to slightly undercook a breast (150°) to keep it juicy, but it's all good.

I have a bunch of frozen tilapia filets, but I'm kinda tired of them.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 04, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Tilapia tastes a little too fishy for me. Swai isn't too bad, and I'll do cod and flounder, but don't even talk to me about salmon.  :puke:

I just ain't a fish guy.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Chris_ on March 04, 2011, 07:59:24 PM
Salmon is almost as much fun to eat as it is to catch. :fishing:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on March 07, 2011, 06:40:00 AM
Salmon is almost as much fun to eat as it is to catch. :fishing:

my brother catches salmon all the time and the best food I have ever eaten is when he wraps a side of it in foil with butter and lemon/dill and puts it on the grill.  OMG. 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 07, 2011, 06:42:04 AM
Down 25 lbs. now.

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 07, 2011, 07:16:33 AM
my brother catches salmon all the time and the best food I have ever eaten is when he wraps a side of it in foil with butter and lemon/dill and puts it on the grill.  OMG. 

That is how we cook it too!
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 07, 2011, 07:16:57 AM
Down 25 lbs. now.



In 25 days?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 07, 2011, 07:29:30 AM
Down 25 lbs. now.




WOW!!!  That's really great, Euph...you are doing so well!  :hi5:

Guys lose weight sooooo much faster than women do....and keep it off better too.  :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on March 07, 2011, 08:07:00 AM
I started the Atkins diet 4 days ago and down 5lbs today.  Eating a 6egg white omelet with cheese right now
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 07, 2011, 10:01:15 AM
In 25 days?

No, I'm 3 days in the 3rd cycle, so that's 37 days.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 07, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
I started the Atkins diet 4 days ago and down 5lbs today.  Eating a 6egg white omelet with cheese right now

Nice going! No yolks at all?

I've been eating walnuts and peanuts of late -- maybe a handful at a time to ward off the hungries. They're oily, but that's not a huge, huge issue.

Diving into a pint of Haagen Daz (sp?) WOULD be a big deal.  :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on March 07, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
Nice going! No yolks at all?

I've been eating walnuts and peanuts of late -- maybe a handful at a time to ward off the hungries. They're oily, but that's not a huge, huge issue.

Diving into a pint of Haagen Daz (sp?) WOULD be a big deal.  :bawl:

I throw one yolk in there for the protein so it's a 6 egg white omelet with one yolk.....whatever it's delicious

I eat peanuts also...fixing to make me a bit ole salad to eat.

I love this diet because I don't eat sweets anyway so it's so easy for me.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 07, 2011, 10:32:22 AM
I throw one yolk in there for the protein so it's a 6 egg white omelet with one yolk.....whatever it's delicious

I eat peanuts also...fixing to make me a bit ole salad to eat.

I love this diet because I don't eat sweets anyway so it's so easy for me.

I do believe that most of an egg's protein is in the white, not the yolk. Other nutrients, as well as some cholesterol, are in the yolk.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on March 07, 2011, 11:04:46 AM
I do believe that most of an egg's protein is in the white, not the yolk. Other nutrients, as well as some cholesterol, are in the yolk.

Ohhhhh thanks for that, I guess I should read up  on it, I have always heard the yolks are the bad part but I do love me some yolk
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 07, 2011, 12:07:15 PM
I fight the hungries with nuts too. I buy the cans of deluxe nuts...and eat them in specific order. Cashews and pecans, then the almonds, suffer through the filberts, and toss the Brazil nuts.

I can barely eat a peanut anymore. Ate too many of them when I first started the diet back in July.  :(
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Chris_ on March 07, 2011, 12:08:36 PM
I buy the cans of deluxe nuts...and eat them in specific order.
:huh?:

:-)

I could go for some almonds right now.  I doubt there are any in the vending machine.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on March 07, 2011, 12:21:47 PM
I fight the hungries with nuts too. I buy the cans of deluxe nuts...and eat them in specific order. Cashews and pecans, then the almonds, suffer through the filberts, and toss the Brazil nuts.

I can barely eat a peanut anymore. Ate too many of them when I first started the diet back in July.  :(

I just knew you were a connoisseur of nuts! :lmao:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 07, 2011, 12:52:47 PM
I just knew you were a connoisseur of nuts! :lmao:

Aren't MOST women ?!?!?!?!?!?  :fuelfire:


:bolt:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 07, 2011, 01:00:55 PM

WOW!!!  That's really great, Euph...you are doing so well!  :hi5:

Guys lose weight sooooo much faster than women do....and keep it off better too.  :bawl:

Thanks, but I think most of it is the fact I'm movin' my ass so much more than Mrs E.

She gets on the treadmill and walks fairly quickly - about 3.5 mph - for 17 whole minutes.  :whatever:

But I get on the elliptical and keep the speed at an average of 60 rpms for anywhere from 35 to 45 minutes. One day, while on the road, I got a little feisty and walked on the hotel's treadmill for an hour. That one yielded a bruised heel, I think - definitely some agony involved the next day.  :p
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 24, 2011, 04:39:28 PM
Weight loss to date: 33 lbs.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 24, 2011, 06:00:17 PM
Weight loss to date: 33 lbs.

That is just awesome!!  :bow: :bow: :bow:

How is Mrs E doing?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 24, 2011, 09:16:47 PM
That is just awesome!!  :bow: :bow: :bow:

How is Mrs E doing?

21 lbs.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 24, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
21 lbs.

Mrs. E gets a high five.  I gave it to you to give to her.  :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 24, 2011, 09:22:11 PM
Mrs. E gets a high five.  I gave it to you to give to her.  :-)

 :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

You KNOW that ain't the way it's supposed to work, dammit.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 24, 2011, 09:26:32 PM
I gave you a high 5, too. You can give it to whomever you care.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 24, 2011, 10:12:40 PM
21 lbs.

Then she is doing great too! :yahoo:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 25, 2011, 07:26:05 AM
Thanks debk, and Thor.

It's great seeing these kinds of results, but I have to be honest and say I plateaued out there for about a week. I was getting tired of the endless rabbit food and lack of comfort food. I mean, I enjoy the feeling I get after a great meal, with some complex carbs thrown in there (not to mention a nice dessert featuring ice cream, my absolute nemesis), because it satisfies.

Instead, I wind up filling a hole with veggies and chicken, sometimes fish.  :banghead:

I revolted there about a week ago and nibbled on some chocolate and peanuts (nuts and chocolate is another nemesis -- damn, I got a LOT of those nemesi !  :lmao: ) and a few other things I shouldn't have had (apple fritters -- another one!), so I stagnated there for awhile. But I eventually pushed through and got past it.

They say it's easy losing weight and harder to keep it off. I dunno -- I'm thinking it's much harder to adopt and keep healthier eating habits, especially when time is of the essence. We're finding the time to prepare food and exercise, but I swear I don't know how.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 25, 2011, 07:35:19 AM
:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

You KNOW that ain't the way it's supposed to work, dammit.

Well, the High Five "technically" was for her.  Now I BS'd you for you.   :-)  I competed in a challenge at work, lose 10 lbs in 10 weeks.  I successfully lost 10 lbs, and treated myself to some GOOD food, and now I feel lousy.  Curses! 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 25, 2011, 07:38:04 AM
Well, the High Five "technically" was for her.  Now I BS'd you for you.   :-)  I competed in a challenge at work, lose 10 lbs in 10 weeks.  I successfully lost 10 lbs, and treated myself to some GOOD food, and now I feel lousy.  Curses! 

Okay, well maybe this h5 will make up for it.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 25, 2011, 09:02:28 AM
Thanks debk, and Thor.

It's great seeing these kinds of results, but I have to be honest and say I plateaued out there for about a week. I was getting tired of the endless rabbit food and lack of comfort food. I mean, I enjoy the feeling I get after a great meal, with some complex carbs thrown in there (not to mention a nice dessert featuring ice cream, my absolute nemesis), because it satisfies.

Instead, I wind up filling a hole with veggies and chicken, sometimes fish.  :banghead:

I revolted there about a week ago and nibbled on some chocolate and peanuts (nuts and chocolate is another nemesis -- damn, I got a LOT of those nemesi !  :lmao: ) and a few other things I shouldn't have had (apple fritters -- another one!), so I stagnated there for awhile. But I eventually pushed through and got past it.

They say it's easy losing weight and harder to keep it off. I dunno -- I'm thinking it's much harder to adopt and keep healthier eating habits, especially when time is of the essence. We're finding the time to prepare food and exercise, but I swear I don't know how.

I've gone back to eating pretty much whatever I want. I've gained 3 pounds, since mid December, that have stayed on. When I started I had wanted to be within 5 pounds of a certain weight. I got there, but everyone - near and dear - kept telling me I was too thin. I was getting a lot of "are you ill?" So now, I'm into the next 5 pound range. I'll let people get used to me being here, and then try to lose some more. It won't seem as drastic.   

I never gave up chocolate, just gave up most of the types of chocolate. Instead of M&M's, frozen Snickers and Peppermint Patties...it's M&M's (they form the basis of my food pyramind  :-)  ) and Hershey bars - plain or with almonds. I buy those huge Hershey bars, and will eat of section of 5 mini ones...but I don't do it everyday. I bought 4 over a week ago, and there are still 3 and the last section of the 4th one in the pantry.

I've gone back to baking, too. Made a chocolate chip cookie bundt cake the other night. I've had 3 pieces, less than an inch wide, and I'm pretty much over it. It was a new recipe I found, I wanted to experiment with it, I did, I've tasted it enough to critique it, and now I don't have an urge to eat it.

I think what has made the difference in keeping it off, is that I'm more conscious of what I eat, how much I eat and when I eat it. If I eat carbs - I eat protein at the same time. When I snack, I eat nuts - cashews, pecans and walnuts. I also make sure to drink my protein shake every morning. I have found it makes a difference if I don't. 

I've known for years, that when I have a craving for something... to just go ahead and eat it. I have gone back to doing that too. Just a little bit is making me "happy-happy" and content...I know it's more a of psychological than  nutritional need, but I don't care!! It helps to have a reasonable idea of what the carb count is, too.

I made some "killer" au gratin potatoes the other night (same night as the cake ::) )...RB had given me the recipe. Lots of sour cream and cheese - both of which I can eat,  (I forgot the butter!  :thatsright:  )...I admit they were incredible, but when I had some leftovers last night, I didn't even finish them, and I didn't even have a third of a cup on my plate. I like potatoes, but they have never been a super staple for me. I care more about Ruffles with french onion dip.  :whistling:

Worst things I have done, is I'm back to eating pasta and apple fritters. I'm trying really hard to do portion control with them though. But it is soooo hard, because buttered noodles, makes me soooo happy. And both M and T like them, and I probably fix them at least once a week. Not just some, but the whole damn bag. I dearly love apple fritters. It depends on where I do the grocery shopping as to whether or not they make it into the cart.  :whatever:

I have managed to not buy ice cream. T doesn't care about it at all, and M can take or leave it unless it Graeters. If I buy it, I will be the one eating all of it. I did see a new Breyer's chocolate/almond dipped ice cream bar the other day at Kroger's....5 carbs each. Those may have to come home with me.  O-)

I'm still avoiding grapes.. :bawl:..it is so hard to walk past them in the store. Bread has never been a craved food, though I do love fresh baked soft rolls with dinner (so do the guys), and I'm doing real well on not eating sandwiches.

Best thing I've learned through all of this, is that carbs are a problem for me, and if I'm going to eat them, I'm going to make sure they are coming from food I really, really want...and not use 'em up in something I don't care that much about.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 25, 2011, 09:56:49 AM
You two just need to hush your mouths about the apple fritters!!  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: All of the doughnut shops around here close at noon and the local grocery stores that do have them, they are marginal. I sure miss Cub Foods from up north.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 25, 2011, 09:58:28 AM
You two just need to hush your mouths about the apple fritters!!  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: All of the doughnut shops around here close at noon and the local grocery stores that do have them, they are marginal. I sure miss Cub Foods from up north.

You'll all note that Thor is no longer online as of this writing (10 a.m. CST), so in all likelihood, he's heading to one of those doughnut shops he mentioned before noon.

Gotta stock up!

 :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 25, 2011, 10:07:04 AM
DunkinDonuts has them here...but they are soooo expensive!

All the groceries have them but they vary in the apple content. Also really vary in price. Ingles has the best in taste and price. Kroger's are good, but more expensive. Walmart's are ok, provided they are freshly baked.

Publix has wonderful apple fritters.

We don't have a Publix.  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 25, 2011, 10:45:57 AM
There are precisely two donut shops in my town -- and I'm not counting WalMart because that place doesn't sell fritters, they sell hockey pucks.

And I think one of the two donut shops (which is really a restaurant) buys their donuts from what is, in fact, the ONLY donut shop in this town.

Gettin' donuts and salads in this town is pretty tough. Ya gotta be either a hockey player or comfortable with wilted iceberg!  :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on March 25, 2011, 01:13:46 PM
I had a morning meeting, and they had donuts.  I don't really like donuts, but they did have an apple fritter, and after all the chatter about them, I had to have one.  I hate the glaze though.  Too sweet. 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on March 25, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
I had a morning meeting, and they had donuts.  I don't really like donuts, but they did have an apple fritter, and after all the chatter about them, I had to have one.  I hate the glaze though.  Too sweet. 

There was too much glaze on it then.

I heat them in the microwave, which makes the glaze melt. They just aren't the same cold.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 25, 2011, 02:25:42 PM
You'll all note that Thor is no longer online as of this writing (10 a.m. CST), so in all likelihood, he's heading to one of those doughnut shops he mentioned before noon.

Gotta stock up!

 :rotf: :rotf:

First of all, it's no longer "CST". Secondly, I went back to bed.  :tongue:  (four hours of interrupted sleep doesn't cut it)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on March 25, 2011, 05:33:20 PM
First of all, it's no longer "CST". Secondly, I went back to bed.  :tongue:  (four hours of interrupted sleep doesn't cut it)

Oh, so now we have a ****ing TIME NAZI? In addition to our GRAMMAR NAZI? DAMN! How many Nazi hats do you wear, anyway?

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on March 25, 2011, 06:14:18 PM
Oh, so now we have a ****ing TIME NAZI? In addition to our GRAMMAR NAZI? DAMN! How many Nazi hats do you wear, anyway?

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

Well........... I AM mostly German.......  :clueless:   :tazeme:  :-)

Oh, you forgot, "Spelling Nazi"  :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on April 12, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
It took me awhile, but I finally got to:

40 lbs. weight loss to date.

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: IassaFTots on April 12, 2011, 09:12:31 PM
It took me awhile, but I finally got to:

40 lbs. weight loss to date.



So wrong, but it hurts so good.  BS for you!!!!
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: BEG on April 12, 2011, 09:19:48 PM
Well remember earlier this year when I was worried that I was too thin (and I was)?  Well now I've gained it all back plus a few. My boobs are huge (for me), I swear they feel like I'm pregnant. Now I want to lose about 5 lbs. My jeans that were falling off me now are tight, a little too tight. :(
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on April 12, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
Well remember earlier this year when I was worried that I was too thin (and I was)?  Well now I've gained it all back plus a few. My boobs are huge (for me), I swear they feel like I'm pregnant. Now I want to lose about 5 lbs. My jeans that were falling off me now are tight, a little too tight. :(

dutch and his question "boobiez?" in 3....2....1....

Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on April 12, 2011, 09:34:19 PM
So wrong, but it hurts so good.  BS for you!!!!

thank you, dear.

h5   :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: BEG on April 12, 2011, 09:37:19 PM
dutch and his question "boobiez?" in 3....2....1....



Ha
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on April 13, 2011, 09:02:04 AM
It took me awhile, but I finally got to:

40 lbs. weight loss to date.




That is just terrifically awesome!!!

Even though I don't give out BS...I did give you one, cause I know that's what you would prefer.  :(
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on April 13, 2011, 09:34:45 AM

That is just terrifically awesome!!!

Even though I don't give out BS...I did give you one, cause I know that's what you would prefer.  :(

Thanks!

and h5 in return.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on April 13, 2011, 01:31:10 PM
Thanks!

and h5 in return.

:watching:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on April 13, 2011, 03:41:36 PM
:watching:

Does that mean I now have a Not-So-Secret Admirer?

 :hyper:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on April 22, 2011, 06:37:25 AM
Weight loss to date:

45 lbs.

An interesting thing has developed. As has already been mentioned, one of the problems with low-carb diets is the body, after awhile, recognizes that condition and begins to slow metabolism.

I believe this was happening to me, especially a month or so ago, when my weight loss slowed to a crawl. As I was simultaneously monitoring my blood pressure, my BP was uncharacteristically low (around 115 systolic) when my metabolism was slowing.

While this is pseudo-science at best, it seems to be telling the story. My BP is up around 130 to 135 and with that comes the weight loss.

In order to keep my metabolism in a somewhat higher gear, I needed to (and began to) eat more carbs than I had. While I generally still stay away from pasta, I'll eat some potatoes and even indulge in ice cream once in awhile.  :tongue:

What I'm learning for me is, in order to keep the weight dropping, I need to reduce carb intake in the late afternoon and especially evening. Keeping to the protein and veggie thing for dinner is working very well, while I can afford to indulge my sweet tooth in the late morning/afternoon.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: vesta111 on April 22, 2011, 09:02:53 AM
Weight loss to date:

45 lbs.

An interesting thing has developed. As has already been mentioned, one of the problems with low-carb diets is the body, after awhile, recognizes that condition and begins to slow metabolism.

I believe this was happening to me, especially a month or so ago, when my weight loss slowed to a crawl. As I was simultaneously monitoring my blood pressure, my BP was uncharacteristically low (around 115 systolic) when my metabolism was slowing.

While this is pseudo-science at best, it seems to be telling the story. My BP is up around 130 to 135 and with that comes the weight loss.

In order to keep my metabolism in a somewhat higher gear, I needed to (and began to) eat more carbs than I had. While I generally still stay away from pasta, I'll eat some potatoes and even indulge in ice cream once in awhile.  :tongue:

What I'm learning for me is, in order to keep the weight dropping, I need to reduce carb intake in the late afternoon and especially evening. Keeping to the protein and veggie thing for dinner is working very well, while I can afford to indulge my sweet tooth in the late morning/afternoon.

Lucky you and congratulations on a well fought battle.

 My problem is when I eat a meal, I fall asleep an hour later and perhaps 6 hours goes by before I wake up.

It is back to the Asian diet for me, brown rice, vegetables and a bit of meat any kind except dog or cat.

Why on a rice diet do the Asians stay so thin, only when they eat a American diet do they get diabetes, gall stones and stomach ulcers ??  it seems that carbohydrates make up 80% of their diet and they stay slim and trim.

In South America where a diet is full of hot peppers ulcers are almost unknown.   Corn, beans some squash, tomatoes etc with hot sauce and rice seems to keep them healthy.

I have had a very high metabolism all my life, A real meat and potato girl that loves butter, cream, and fat. 

Most I ever weighed was 120 pounds and that was at 9 months pregnant.   Same today so I question why I who still love the same food now needs to track down why I get that groggy feeling that one gets after a huge turkey dinner.

For Inga, why when I get heart burn will a table spoon of Apple cider vinegar take away the problem in 15 minutes.??
 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 09, 2011, 09:05:39 AM
Weight loss to date: 50.2 lbs.

Maybe the stomach virus I had yesterday had something to do with the 3.5 lbs. I lost in less than 24 hours.  :p
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on May 09, 2011, 09:10:32 AM
Weight loss to date: 50.2 lbs.

Maybe the stomach virus I had yesterday had something to do with the 3.5 lbs. I lost in less than 24 hours.  :p

uh-oh...on the stomach virus. Hope you are feeling better...
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 09, 2011, 09:23:08 AM
uh-oh...on the stomach virus. Hope you are feeling better...

Not really. Haven't eaten anything in almost 48 hrs. No stomach for it (pun fully intended).  :p
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on May 09, 2011, 02:41:50 PM
Not really. Haven't eaten anything in almost 48 hrs. No stomach for it (pun fully intended).  :p


My little granddaughter - she's 18 mos old - was in the hospital last week (week ago) from Thursday to Saturday, getting fluids pumped into her, because she got so dehydrated with her 4th bout of the so-called "current" stomach bug, in 5 weeks. Chjldren's sent her home, after running a bunch of different tests on her (salmonella, e-coli, etc) to determine it was the stomach bug that was going around.

She was supposed to go back to the pediatrician on Friday for follow-up. After 2 days of calling parents to come pick her up at school, I stayed with her on Thursday and Friday. M and I took her to the pediatrician on Thursday - (same practice my kids went to, but I was not impressed with this one  :(  )...her little tush looked like she had been scalded and she was not better. So my daughter called and SIL was going to leave work and take Madelyn, which I said was crazy, we could take her. We did, and I asked the dr if a particular test had been run, (my daughter said to ask) and the dr said "no, we don't run that one, unless we know the child has been exposed to the bacteria, because it can give a false positive"...I said ok. And dr gave me some medicine for Miss M's tush, and said keep her on the restricted diet, this bug lasts about 5-7 days. ( Uh...dumb ass....she's been sick for over a week! ) Sent us on our merry way, (Miss M finally quit screaming like we were murdering her!), told us she'd be fine in a couple of days.

When my SIL got home, he was furious that they didn't test her (I had to take in a poop sample that the dr didn't even look at!!!). Since he works in a trauma unit, and my daughter works in a walk in clinic, both are exposed to this bacteria all the time. He said the dr should have realized that! (She even knew J was at work because I called her while the dr was in the room with us, and we had to wait while J finished taking an x-ray). J told me the next morning, when I got there, that SIL sort of lost his temper with Children's and the pediatrician...he apparently called them after we left.

She was doing better Saturday night when we saw them. And she, and her big brother, are with their other Grandma(SIL's mom) today and tomorrow. Then on Wed they head to Nebraska for 5 days. At least out there, if Miss M gets sick again, God forbid!....my ex can test her at his office.  :(

She's lost at least 3 pounds...which is a lot for a little 22 pound body.

FWIW, Euph....she's only to eat oatmeal, soda crackers or "goldfish", popsicles, regular yogurt - preferably without fruit, gatorade, pedialite. Absolutely no milk products, or fruit of any kind, and nothing with excess or extra sugar. No toast, no meat, no cereal, no jello. Nothing else until her system seems back to normal.

You might want to try her diet....particularly the gatorade. It's a really bad thing to get dehydrated. 

She's a smart little thing...she figured out if it went in...it was really bad coming back out. She's just like her mother! She was the same way...I think the 3rd time we had to hit the ER for IV fluids, when J was in HS or college, because she gotten a stomach "bug" and refused to put anything into her body....M and I threatened her with she would be the one paying the ER bill the next time it happened.  :thatsright:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 09, 2011, 05:34:41 PM
Sorry to hear about Miss M, Deb; it sounds like she's had a very tough row to hoe.

Went to work this morning, feeling like dogshit, and would've come home again if one of my guys hadn't called in sick. Was actually feeling better as the morning went on, but I went home after a conference call, about 11:30.

Ate no breakfast. But was feeling good enough to tackle part of the mowing that simply had to get done.

Big mistake. Feeling pretty woozy right now. Drank plenty of water, though I need to drink more. You're right about the hydration thing.

Whatever it was, it was just a 24 hr. thing. I'll be okay if I just lay back and take it easy for a day or two and get plenty of liquids.

Mods, if this thing starts sounding like "Cryin' in my Beer," please go ahead and move the thread over there..... :tongue:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on May 09, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
Sorry to hear about Miss M, Deb; it sounds like she's had a very tough row to hoe.

Went to work this morning, feeling like dogshit, and would've come home again if one of my guys hadn't called in sick. Was actually feeling better as the morning went on, but I went home after a conference call, about 11:30.

Ate no breakfast. But was feeling good enough to tackle part of the mowing that simply had to get done.

Big mistake. Feeling pretty woozy right now. Drank plenty of water, though I need to drink more. You're right about the hydration thing.

Whatever it was, it was just a 24 hr. thing. I'll be okay if I just lay back and take it easy for a day or two and get plenty of liquids.

Mods, if this thing starts sounding like "Cryin' in my Beer," please go ahead and move the thread over there..... :tongue:

You are seemingly whiny.......   :fuelfire:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: shadeaux on May 10, 2011, 12:15:48 AM
I read all eleven pages.

I've lost 42 pounds since Feb. and I don't diet. I eat whatever I want, except for salt.  That's now a no no.

If I had not had kidney stones I'd still be where I was, hurting and gaining weight.

I drink a gallon of water everyday, two glasses of lemonade and an orange juice sometimes.  That is for no stone formation.

It's not as easy as it sounds.  I had to force myself to do it for my kidneys. After a month, it became a habit.

The first surprise was I wasn't hungry anymore. The second surprise was how much energy I had. The third surprise was intestinal.  Yes, a minimum of 4 maybe 5 times a day.  Shocking for me. I move around a lot more, I feel better. 

Yes I do urinate a lot but it's a small price to pay for clean kidneys.  I don't drink coffee or sodas, I eat whatever just not a lot of processed foods. I gave up chips and other junk years ago. I cook everyday during the week.  My husband cooks on weekends.

You have to train yourself.  It's hard especially if you're not a big water drinker but I swear the toxins leave your body and the cravings you may have for certain things go with it.  I had triple fudge cake yesterday, a small slice, haven't touch it since.  I don't want it.

I eat 3 times a day especially breakfast. You need that fuel to start your day. I carry my 8oz. cup with me or a bottle water wherever I go.  I rarely finish the food on my plate. I don't feel hungry all day.

I am over 50 and I thought my skinny days were over. I thought I would fight my weight until I died.  I ate my way through menopause.  It was hateful.   :-)

I don't have high blood pressure and my heart is still going strong. I take only vitamins, no prescription medication.

It's nothing that will kill me, nothing I have to prepare and it's available wherever I go.

That is the best part.

My urologist told me she was jealous.   :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 10, 2011, 05:25:07 AM
You are seemingly whiny.......   :fuelfire:

Yep, I'll admit that. I don't play the sick game very well. Na und?  :tongue:

 :lmao:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 10, 2011, 05:31:23 AM
I read all eleven pages.

I've lost 42 pounds since Feb. and I don't diet. I eat whatever I want, except for salt.  That's now a no no.

If I had not had kidney stones I'd still be where I was, hurting and gaining weight.

I drink a gallon of water everyday, two glasses of lemonade and an orange juice sometimes.  That is for no stone formation.

It's not as easy as it sounds.  I had to force myself to do it for my kidneys. After a month, it became a habit.

The first surprise was I wasn't hungry anymore. The second surprise was how much energy I had. The third surprise was intestinal.  Yes, a minimum of 4 maybe 5 times a day.  Shocking for me. I move around a lot more, I feel better. 

Yes I do urinate a lot but it's a small price to pay for clean kidneys.  I don't drink coffee or sodas, I eat whatever just not a lot of processed foods. I gave up chips and other junk years ago. I cook everyday during the week.  My husband cooks on weekends.

You have to train yourself.  It's hard especially if you're not a big water drinker but I swear the toxins leave your body and the cravings you may have for certain things go with it.  I had triple fudge cake yesterday, a small slice, haven't touch it since.  I don't want it.

I eat 3 times a day especially breakfast. You need that fuel to start your day. I carry my 8oz. cup with me or a bottle water wherever I go.  I rarely finish the food on my plate. I don't feel hungry all day.

I am over 50 and I thought my skinny days were over. I thought I would fight my weight until I died.  I ate my way through menopause.  It was hateful.   :-)

I don't have high blood pressure and my heart is still going strong. I take only vitamins, no prescription medication.

It's nothing that will kill me, nothing I have to prepare and it's available wherever I go.

That is the best part.

My urologist told me she was jealous.   :-)

That's a great accounting, shadeaux, and well done! Training myself to drink a lot more water than I had been drinking (but nowhere near what you're doing) was tough enough -- I can't imagine doubling that quantity. I drink a lot in the morning, but then taper off as the day moves on. But now that summer is here, I suppose I've gotta ramp up.

I'm with you on the energy bit -- I have a LOT more than I had. I attribute quite a bit of that to the exercise I'm getting. But I do rebel at the steady diet of veggies and fish/chicken and sometimes stray (  :whistling: ) from that when Mrs E ain't looking.

I have a sweet tooth, and that part hits me hard, but I think I've crossed a bridge of sorts. Chomping on peanuts and chocolate nauseates me now -- I hope that keeps up.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2011, 06:00:27 AM
Chomping on peanuts and chocolate

Ah ha......... this is the reason behind Die Elefanten size!! Ich habe zu viel Schnitzel eßen.  :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 10, 2011, 09:01:02 AM
Ah ha......... this is the reason behind Die Elefanten size!! Ich habe zu viel Schnitzel eßen.  :lmao: :lmao:

Elefanten?  :lmao: Die existierien nur in deinem Kopf, mein lieber Freund.  :mental:  Du meinst, übrigens, daß du zu viele (mehrzahl) Schnitzels gegessen hast.

Wenn du die grammatik nicht verstehst, wäre es am bestens einfach aufzugeben.

[/deutsche Grammar Nazi]   :-)

 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on May 10, 2011, 09:05:20 AM
Hey Euph...how are you feeling today? Any better?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 10, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
Hey Euph...how are you feeling today? Any better?

A little. Ate a little salad and chicken last night and some Greek yogurt this morning.

Bowel trouble still continues, however.  :shucks:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on May 10, 2011, 09:21:35 AM
A little. Ate a little salad and chicken last night and some Greek yogurt this morning.

Bowel trouble still continues, however.  :shucks:

That's Miss M's problem too. Maybe try her diet?

Salad is hard on the intestinal tract. Greek yogurt is mild, but it's dairy and gives more fuel to bacteria.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 10, 2011, 09:26:34 AM
That's Miss M's problem too. Maybe try her diet?

Salad is hard on the intestinal tract. Greek yogurt is mild, but it's dairy and gives more fuel to bacteria.

Well, I eliminated the extra fiber I'd been putting in the yogurt, but I think I negated that with some of those enzymes and some other kind of pill that Mrs E forces me to take at gunpoint -- the enzymes help the digestion process.  :whatever:

Like I need help with that right now?  :lmao:

This will settle down. But I will make some adjustments.

The good news is, weight keeps dropping (little wonder, really).

I see some clear soup in my future...and thanks for your recommendations.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: shadeaux on May 10, 2011, 12:19:43 PM
Don't dehydrate.   :-)

You're doing well so far.  Damn virus.  Good luck on the rest.  I know it's hard but the benefits are worth the effort.

It hits you like a ton of bricks when you realize what you've chosen may be for life.  It is for me.  Meh, it's worth the sacrifice.



Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2011, 05:51:14 PM
Well, I eliminated the extra fiber I'd been putting in the yogurt, but I think I negated that with some of those enzymes and some other kind of pill that Mrs E forces me to take at gunpoint -- the enzymes help the digestion process.  :whatever:

Like I need help with that right now?  :lmao:

This will settle down. But I will make some adjustments.

The good news is, weight keeps dropping (little wonder, really).

I see some clear soup in my future...and thanks for your recommendations.

Coke, defizzed will settle your tummy.......
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 11, 2011, 11:24:39 AM
Coke, defizzed will settle your tummy.......

I seem to be tracking well now....I think.

No explosions in awhile.  :-)
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: delilahmused on May 11, 2011, 12:03:09 PM
My go to diet is HCG. I'm doing another round in a few days. I want a calorie deficit before summer starts so I have some extra room for long island iced teas and iced coffee with lots of cream!

Cindie
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Gina on May 21, 2011, 07:19:12 AM
My go to diet is HCG. I'm doing another round in a few days. I want a calorie deficit before summer starts so I have some extra room for long island iced teas and iced coffee with lots of cream!

Cindie

isn't that where they inject the pregnancy hormone into you?
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 27, 2011, 10:00:54 PM
Total weight loss to date:

55 lbs.

The trip to Pittsburgh didn't help me much, but I can still lose weight in a hurry when I have to.  :whistling:
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on May 28, 2011, 01:16:32 PM
 :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: You have done incredibly well!!!! How's Mrs. E doin'?


Went today, to weigh in for the first time in quite a while...and was pleasantly surprised. Was only up 1 pound, but considering how much dessert making I've been doing lately, which means a lot....okay...a whole lot!  :thatsright: .... of taste testing.

 
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: delilahmused on May 28, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
isn't that where they inject the pregnancy hormone into you?

You can inject it, I do it sublingually. The amount you get is much, much smaller than a pregnant woman produces. A pregnant woman can produce up to a million units per day and the dose of HCG for dieting is between 125 & 250iu. It's basically a very low calorie diet but the HCG keeps you from being hungry and going into starvation mode because of the way it burns fat and the kind of fat it burns. It only burns superfluous fat and preserves those natural reserves (the kind that protects the joints, liver, etc.) we need. This makes sense if you think about it because this hormone does the same thing for pregnant women even with such stress on their bodies. While you do hit a plateau for a few days (I've yet to be on a diet where weight loss doesn't slow at some point) most people usually lose a pound or more a day.

Most people do HCG without a doctor. It's extremely safe and costs about $60 for a 3 month supply. You have to order it from overseas but it's legal to have a 3 month supply. If bought here you can only get it from a doctor or buy the homeopathic version. It's done in rounds of 23 to 43 days but I never need that much time so I'm kind of a rogue diet in that I cycle it 2 weeks on and 1 week off. I also eat extra protein since I workout. After you do a round there's a three week maintenance period which is basically a low carb diet. This is the phase in which bacon becomes a food group! The biggest mistake people make at this step is not eating enough calories. The absolutely amazing thing about HCG though is how it literally reshapes your body. Do a google search and you'll see.

Cindie
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: debk on May 28, 2011, 02:40:28 PM
You can inject it, I do it sublingually. The amount you get is much, much smaller than a pregnant woman produces. A pregnant woman can produce up to a million units per day and the dose of HCG for dieting is between 125 & 250iu. It's basically a very low calorie diet but the HCG keeps you from being hungry and going into starvation mode because of the way it burns fat and the kind of fat it burns. It only burns superfluous fat and preserves those natural reserves (the kind that protects the joints, liver, etc.) we need. This makes sense if you think about it because this hormone does the same thing for pregnant women even with such stress on their bodies. While you do hit a plateau for a few days (I've yet to be on a diet where weight loss doesn't slow at some point) most people usually lose a pound or more a day.

Most people do HCG without a doctor. It's extremely safe and costs about $60 for a 3 month supply. You have to order it from overseas but it's legal to have a 3 month supply. If bought here you can only get it from a doctor or buy the homeopathic version. It's done in rounds of 23 to 43 days but I never need that much time so I'm kind of a rogue diet in that I cycle it 2 weeks on and 1 week off. I also eat extra protein since I workout. After you do a round there's a three week maintenance period which is basically a low carb diet. This is the phase in which bacon becomes a food group! The biggest mistake people make at this step is not eating enough calories. The absolutely amazing thing about HCG though is how it literally reshapes your body. Do a google search and you'll see.

Cindie

One of the girls who works with my son, just told me the other day, that this is how she diets!!!

I had never heard of it, until you mentioned it the other day. She's only about 19, but said she just did it for a  month and lost 18 pounds!! She said she has not gone back on it, but didn't say why. But she did say that she's only gained back 1 pound, in a couple of months.
Title: Re: The 17-Day Diet
Post by: Eupher on May 28, 2011, 05:00:46 PM
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: You have done incredibly well!!!! How's Mrs. E doin'?


Went today, to weigh in for the first time in quite a while...and was pleasantly surprised. Was only up 1 pound, but considering how much dessert making I've been doing lately, which means a lot....okay...a whole lot!  :thatsright: .... of taste testing.
 

She is closing in on 30 lbs. and is at a very loose size 10, I think. I've got my svelte babe back!  :yahoo:

She's far better at sticking to the diet than I am, but I do much, much more exercise than she does. All the same, we've both begun incorporating some weight training into the exercise plan. We've been doing exclusively cardio, which is great, but as we all know, lean muscle tissue burns calories all the time. That's the single-biggest reason men lose weight faster than women -- we tend to have more muscle mass.