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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Chris_ on January 08, 2011, 12:33:43 PM
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(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2987/giffords.jpg)
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot outside a grocery store in Tucson while holding a public event, Arizona Public Media reported Saturday.
At least five other people, including members of her staff, were hurt. Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known.
NPR (http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona)
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This is horrible. I honestly hope she's ok.
The left is already blaming the tea party.
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The left is already blaming the tea party.
There's a shocker
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Oh Lord. Here we go....
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...and the shooter was heard to shout, "Allah Akbar" or "I didn't get my free pony"...we're not sure which just yet.
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Update:
Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot along with three of her aides by a gunman Saturday morning outside a grocery store in Tucson while holding a public event, Fox News has confirmed.
Twelve others were shot as well at Giffords' "Your Corner" event held at Safeway. The gunman is in custody.
Giffords was taken to a hospital but the condition of those shot was not immediately known, a senior congressional aide told Fox News.
The three staffers who were shot worked out of Giffords' Arizona office.
Giffords has held multiple "Your Corner" events over the past four years, the aide told Fox News, adding that she had held three previous events that this venue before.
Giffords was re-elected to her third term as representative of Arizona's 8th Congressional District. She is married to astronaut Mark Kelly.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/arizona-congresswoman-reportedly-shot-public-event/#ixzz1ATL0zRNV
One report I read elsewhere said she took one to the head. I pray that it was only a graze and that she is ok.
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Fox reporting via NPR that she passed away.
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This is so sad. :(
My husband thinks all of this violence is being staged by the Marxist and communists. He thinks they are taking out people who were unable to get the jobs (like immigration reform) done. Speculation, of course, but there has been a lot of violence towards our representatives lately. We just had a package addressed to Napolitano that started on fire in a DC USPS facility.
Whoever doing this, either from the right or the left, need to be punished to the fullest extent.
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Damn, that's awful. :(
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Here you go. Here is a really mad supporter of Ms. Giffords.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi
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FNC and NPR are confirming that she died from this. One person is in custody.
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FNC and NPR are confirming that she died from this. One person is in custody.
I read six others are dead as well.
UPDATE: NPR is reporting that Representative Giffords and 6 others are dead.
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/us-representative-shot-in-arizona/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Here you go. Here is a really mad supporter of Ms. Giffords.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi
Interesting!
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I read six others are dead as well.
One gunman who got off 15 shots, supposedly, and security guards returned fire and hit the gunman.
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A child is among those dead.
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Here you go. Here is a really mad supporter of Ms. Giffords.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi
This needs to go to the cops.
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This needs to go to the cops.
Oh I am sure they already have it. I will forward it to the appropriate authorities though.
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I just heard (on MSNBC) an AZ sheriff say that his county's SWAT team doctor told him, five minutes ago, that Rep. Giffords is alive.
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While I attended a fundraiser for her opponent, Jesse Kelly, this is disturbing.
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Horrible!! There are conflicting reports about how many were shot, how many died. Just terrible. I am so glad they got the shooter!!
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Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and six others died after a gunman opened fire at a public event on Saturday, member station KJZZ in Phoenix has confirmed.
The Pima County, Ariz., sheriff's office told news director Mark Moran the 40-year-old Democrat was killed.
Giffords, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event at a Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media.
Giffords was talking to a couple when the suspect ran up and fired indiscriminately from about four feet away, Michaels said.
The suspect ran off and was tackled by a bystander. He was taken into custody. Witnesses described him as in his late teens or early 20s.
Curious...no mention of nationality.
Just sayin...
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona
I'll ask again...what's his Du/Kos/HuffPo name.
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Here is this guys actual blog too.
http://boyblue.dailykos.com/
He blogged yesterday. It doesn't look good for him, even if he didn't shoot her.
BTW, Txradioguy, I forwarded that blog link to the Phoenix FBI offices.
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This is just terrible. :(
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I just heard (on MSNBC) an AZ sheriff say that his county's SWAT team doctor told him, five minutes ago, that Rep. Giffords is alive.
FOX also just reported that their source says she IS alive, but in critical condition.
I hope she pulls through.
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5 bucks says it was a member of a Mexican drug cartel that put a hit out on her over her stance on border security. This is horrible.
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Here is this guys actual blog too.
http://boyblue.dailykos.com/
He blogged yesterday. It doesn't look good for him, even if he didn't shoot her.
BTW, Txradioguy, I forwarded that blog link to the Phoenix FBI offices.
Thank you ma'am hi 5
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While I attended a fundraiser for her opponent, Jesse Kelly, this is disturbing.
Prayers to the victims and their families.
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This is sad and horrible. I was at the DU and it didn't take them long to start placing blame.
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Congresswoman shot, alive in surgery in Arizona (http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=13807790)
This is from an eyewitness:
The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was "not particularly well-dressed"; he didn't look like a businessman, but more of a "fringe character," Rayle said. The sheriff's department arrived, arrested the gunman and cordoned off the parking lot.
http://gawker.com/5728501/
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This is sad and horrible. I was at the DU and it didn't take them long to start placing blame.
Yes but they have been hit with the iron skillet of reality as someone on CNN made the comment...much to the horror of the DUmmies...that this might have been an attack by someone on the left who didn't think she was Liberal enough.
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This is horrible news. My prayers to her family.
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Yes but they have been hit with the iron skillet of reality as someone on CNN made the comment...much to the horror of the DUmmies...that this might have been an attack by someone on the left who didn't think she was Liberal enough.
It's sad that our country has come to this. If she were a republican, the DUmmies would be celebrating.
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Honestly, it's hard to say why anyone even semi-rational on the Right would have had any great heartburn with her in particular, she seems to have developed a pretty Blue-Dog stance and record so far.
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Honestly, it's hard to say why anyone even semi-rational on the Right would have had any great heartburn with her in particular, she seems to have developed a pretty Blue-Dog stance and record so far.
There's no telling but, it is the left that is itching for violence.
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They got the guy and custody and there is no picture. Why the Hell do you think that is?
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Absolutely horrible news. Prayers out to her family, friends, and most of all...her. I hope she makes it.
The links and news provided pertaining the shooter, and the blogging do not look good.
Nice job, BG, and Jess on scoping it out.
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It's sad that our country has come to this. If she were a republican, the DUmmies would be celebrating.
I agree. Case in point...Elizabeth Edwards herself having to tell the DUmp to STFU when there were celebrating the fact that laura Ingram had cancer.
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They got the guy and custody and there is no picture. Why the Hell do you think that is?
Y'know, I can't decide whether that li'l thumbnail of Colonel Nol from the Tet Offensive in your avatar is in really bad taste for this thread, or really appropriate especially with regard to the shooter...
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A friend whose wife works at a Tucson news station said she is alive but she is brain dead. So sad.
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Y'know, I can't decide whether that li'l thumbnail of Colonel Nol from the Tet Offensive in your avatar is in really bad taste for this thread, or really appropriate especially with regard to the shooter...
You know, I put the pic up a few days ago but you're correct, it is in bad taste. It will be removed post haste!
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A friend whose wife works at a Tucson news station said she is alive but she is brain dead. So sad.
Oh no....
I hope the shooter is dead. I haven't been watching. I've been here for all my updates.
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FNC and CNN have said that a Federal judge was there, and CNN is saying that the judge was one of the wounded. Also, FNC is saying that the shooter was not wounded and is now in jail.
Now, Shep Smith is saying that the police are looking for a possible second suspect.
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Here is this guys actual blog too.
http://boyblue.dailykos.com/
He blogged yesterday. It doesn't look good for him, even if he didn't shoot her.
BTW, Txradioguy, I forwarded that blog link to the Phoenix FBI offices.
Damn, that article just disppeared......
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^ If it's the "Response to Latino Demographic thread" post, it's still there.
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No, it was titled something like "My Congress woman voted against Nancy Pelosi and is now DEAD to me".
Here's the google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8DSJuFJ9ZaIJ:m.dailykos.com/stories/2011/1/6/933828/-.html+http://boyblue.dailykos.com/&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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What an insane and awful tragedy. Prayers to the victims and their families.
And here's hoping the state state strings the shooter up by his balls. And if they rip off before he dies, may they use his intestines instead.
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No, it was titled something like "My Congress woman voted against Nancy Pelosi and is now DEAD to me".
Here's the google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8DSJuFJ9ZaIJ:m.dailykos.com/stories/2011/1/6/933828/-.html+http://boyblue.dailykos.com/&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
I got lucky and found it in my history. Got it screen capped.
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_0ASBFd50OPk/TSjJgY3SwfI/AAAAAAAAACE/6etBE0aMOQU/s800/Giffords%201.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0ASBFd50OPk/TSjJgVrPQ1I/AAAAAAAAACI/Sfk1OrfetAs/s800/Giffords%202.jpg)
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Prayer up for all the victims and their loved ones, and for wisdom and skill to those caring for them. How sad.
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The woman guest on Fox now says the Congresswoman was responding to commands, a press conference is coming up.
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The woman guest on Fox now says the Congresswoman was responding to commands, a press conference is coming up.
Yup. Her name is Linda Lopez, and she's a AZ State Senator.
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Linda Lopez State Senator brings up the Tea Party.
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Oh ok, Thor. I do remember clicking on BG's kind now and seeing it.
Quite disturbing. And nice screencap.
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Damn, that article just disppeared......
That didn't take long.
:whatever:
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State Senator Linda Lopez said that the Congresswoman is responding to commands, she also said Rep. Gifford was subjected to vitriol by tea party people, and said she heard the shooter was an Afghan Veteran. IMO she was being very irresponsible in her speculating.
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They're saying on Fox News that the shooter is an Afghan war Veteran.
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They're saying on Fox News that the shooter is an Afghan war Veteran.
And that Federal Judge John Roll was one of those killed.
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And that Federal Judge John Roll was one of those killed.
This is bad first and foremost for those killed and their families, and secondly the entire nation.
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Shep Smith is now saying that ICE is involved. Hmmm . . .
And someone on Shep Smith's show is saying that "she had many very nuanced positions" which seem to mirror those of the Tea Party.
Suspect is being described as a 22-year-old white male.
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And that Federal Judge John Roll was one of those killed.
John McCarthy Roll is a federal judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona. He joined the court in 1991 after being nominated by President George H.W. Bush. Roll is the Chief Judge of the court serving as the court's lead judicial administrative officer in conjunction with the Clerk of Court in the day to day operations of the Court.
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Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge[2].
The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll's name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family[2].
This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney's investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed[2].
In a July 9, 2009 interview with the Arizona Republic, Judge Roll described the time under high security as "unnerving and invasive. . . . By its nature it has to be," Roll said. Roll also said, "It (the security) was handled very professionally by the Marshals Service."[2]
At the end of the month, Roll said four key men had been identified as threat makers[2].
http://judgepedia.org/index.php/John_Roll
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suspect= 22 year old white male:???:
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Very classy, people. Kudos. :II:
-Laelth
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Very classy, people. Kudos. :II:
-Laelth
Like we somehow need your stamp of approval.
:whatever:
Why don't you go teach some class and couth to your mouth breathing Ritalin chewing brothers and sisters at the DUmp.
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This is bad first and foremost for those killed and their families, and secondly the entire nation.
Agreed Freeper. When people start becoming brash enough to start wouding/killing congress people, I tend to start getting worried. Glenn didn't want violence, and neither do we. It's not shaping up that way however. :censored:
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Very classy, people. Kudos. :II:
-Laelth
We actually care about people. When Wellstone died Free Republic was very gracious.
When Reagan died most of DU pissed on his grave. There were a few gracious folks at DU but, they were shut up.
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Jared Laughtner. 22. Honkie. So saith Shep.
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The number of WIA is up to 19 now. FNC is reporting that it was some kind of automatic weapon and law enforcement is searching the area for a possible second shooter.
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We actually care about people. When Wellstone died Free Republic was very gracious.
When Reagan died most of DU pissed on his grave. There were a few gracious folks at DU but, they were shut up.
DU is full of classless dumbasses.
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The MD in charge of the medical team is saying that she was responding to commands. He said that he was "very optimistic" about her recovery.
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This is so sad. :(
My husband thinks all of this violence is being staged by the Marxist and communists. He thinks they are taking out people who were unable to get the jobs (like immigration reform) done. Speculation, of course, but there has been a lot of violence towards our representatives lately. We just had a package addressed to Napolitano that started on fire in a DC USPS facility.
Whoever doing this, either from the right or the left, need to be punished to the fullest extent.
False flags were a tactic used by the college radicals in the 1960s, according to Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism. Whoever is conducting the violence, I hope it does not spread. Things like this, if enough of them happen, are the kind of crises that will give the government the excuse to do another Waco, or worse.
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DUmmies found his youtube page, apparently. Doesn't say much, I don't think. Except for the Commie Manifesto, and whatever the hell "conscious dreaming" is.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
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I don't know who the commentator is (Doug something), but someone is on Shep Smith decrying how "some websites are using this to attack their opponents," or something like that. Kudos for that.
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DUmmies found his youtube page, apparently. Doesn't say much, I don't think.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
Two of his favorite books are the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf...
Huh...
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DUmmies found his youtube page, apparently. Doesn't say much, I don't think. Except for the Commie Manifesto, and whatever the hell "conscious dreaming" is.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
Welll, that was weird.
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Shep says a second shooter or accomplice may have been arrested.
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Shep Smith is saying that there's "multiple reports" that a second person has been arrested in this. Don't know what for, though . . .
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DUmmies found his youtube page, apparently. Doesn't say much, I don't think. Except for the Commie Manifesto, and whatever the hell "conscious dreaming" is.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
Oh, this says a lot to me:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno
:o
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This might be our guy!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001952074770&sk=info
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Shep Smith is reading the text from a video that he posted . . . and all I can say is that this Loughner was on serious drugs when he posted the vid.
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This might be our guy!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001952074770&sk=info
That looks like it was just added today. I could be wrong but I'm not buying it.
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This might be our guy!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001952074770&sk=info
OMG he is crazy, and most likely a regular poster at DU.
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Shep Smith is reading the text from a video that he posted . . . and all I can say is that this Loughner was on serious drugs when he posted the vid.
I was expecting something about healing white light.
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Shep Smith is reading the text from a video that he posted . . . and all I can say is that this Loughner was on serious drugs when he posted the vid.
Yep,very bizarre and meandering.
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This might be our guy!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001952074770&sk=info
I think someone set that up as a spoof.
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This might be our guy!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001952074770&sk=info
Jeez. That says a whole hell of a lot more to me than his YT account.
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I think someone set that up as a spoof.
In this little time??
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Here's a pic of the perp:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/BigRobT/JaredLoughner.jpg)
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I think someone set that up as a spoof.
Yup. I think that FB profile is bull.
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In this little time??
It takes all of 30 seconds to set up a facebook a/c.
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In this little time??
You can set up a Facebook Account in minutes.
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In this little time??
Yeah. It probably only took 5-10 minutes. Besides, the last name is misspelled.
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OMG he is crazy, and most likely a regular poster at DU.
I guess anything is possible. I just wanted to jump on it ASAP before it was disappeared. If I'm wrong, please accept my preemptive apologies.
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I don't see why anyone would do that. Then again, I don't have that practical joke mentallity, and I'm not an idiot.
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I'm not an idiot.
Damn straight you're not!
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"His only currency these days is going to be candy and cigarettes in prison."
Whoa. I chuckled...
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Myspace and Google already scrubbed their copies of his page.
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"His only currency these days is going to be candy and cigarettes in prison."
Whoa. I chuckled...
No, it's not. He'll be in solitary until his sentencing, which will put him on the Federal death row in Terra Haute.
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Yup. I think that FB profile is bull.
Yeah someone set that up trying to be funny methinks.
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That was a fake, but these posts scream "psychosis":
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/
paranoia schizophrenia probably - perfect age for onset, too.
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Funny, but the Kossack wasn't able to scrub this fast enough from his OWN ****ING WEBSITE...
“My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
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by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST
I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords’ district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases. When Arizona re-districted in 2002, a seat opened up and she was right smack in the middle of it. So was I because I live in Oro Valley, Arizona, which is at the heart of that - then - new CD. I was one of several people to talk her into running and pledging complete loyalty and pledging to raise as much money as possible for her.
She ended up running for the first time against a fellow AZ House member, Randy Graf who was a rightwing whacko who advocated guns in bars and was the “Russell Pearce before Russell Pearce†vis-a-vis border issues. With a LOT of hard work and plenty of money, Gabby won. Easier than thought, too. I never like to throw money in people’s faces, but i have given Gabrielle Giffords THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars in both good times and bad times for me financially.
* BoyBlue’s diary :: ::
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Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won’t lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn.â€
But it sure as shit is gone now...just in time for the colossal ****stick to tweet "Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin."
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I think it's this guy. http://www.facebook.com/people/Jared-Loughner/100001936834758
-Laelth
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^ I shouldn't have read that. That was absoloutely insane! I can't even comprehend it.
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Funny, but the Kossack wasn't able to scrub this fast enough from his OWN ****ING WEBSITE...
But it sure as shit is gone now...just in time for the colossal ****stick to tweet "Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin."
Not fast enough for me not to get the screen cap. It's still here for eternity...
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Not fast enough for me not to get the screen cap. It's still here for eternity...
H5, Mike!!!!! :cheersmate:
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This whole thing is disgusting.
I am glad Obama kept things classy instead of his typical 'jump to conclusions' speech.
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He did indeed do an alright job this time. I blame the shooter for making me miss football playoffs. I think this is a bit more important.
Damn you, Loughner!
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This whole thing is disgusting.
I am glad Obama kept things classy instead of his typical 'jump to conclusions' speech.
Yeah, Rev, I think that this is more important.
EC, your governor is talking now . . .
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Yeah, Rev, I think that this is more important.
EC, your governor is talking now . . .
Who? Brian Sandoval? I live in Nevada, not Arizona. I was in Arizona from 2005 to 2008 though.
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This whole thing is disgusting.
I am glad Obama kept things classy instead of his typical 'jump to conclusions' speech.
0bama can't say anything crazy. But not to worry, I guarantee that some elected lib nutjob will stick their foot in their mouth within 48 hours.
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Who? Brian Sandoval? I live in Nevada, not Arizona. I was in Arizona from 2005 to 2008 though.
:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:
My bad. Some random brainwave had me thinking that you were in AZ.
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:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:
My bad. Some random brainwave had me thinking that you were in AZ.
Close enough. We're neighbors. But since I did live there for a few years, I still keep up with news stories and the likes. That might be where the confusion came from.
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0bama can't say anything crazy. But not to worry, I guarantee that some elected lib nutjob will stick their foot in their mouth within 48 hours.
At least one I know of has doen it with a keyboard already. I'm not even counting the DUmp for now though...
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Like we somehow need your stamp of approval.
:whatever:
Why don't you go teach some class and couth to your mouth breathing Ritalin chewing brothers and sisters at the DUmp.
She/he is at OET. :whatever:
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Here you go. Here is a really mad supporter of Ms. Giffords.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi
I got this at the link.
Sorry. I can't seem to find that story. j 1 k 1 l
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I got this at the link.
Mike 220 has got a screen cap somewhere on CC.
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Mike 220 has got a screen cap somewhere on CC.
Page 4 of this thread.
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Page 4 of this thread.
I just saw it. That's really terrible!
The shooter is indeed Jared Loughner.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/01/08/arizona-congresswoman-shot-in-tucson/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog
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Authorities said they believed Loughner had sent out a video saying that he expected Saturday to be his last day and had written on his MySpace page several "final thoughts" that included rants on illiteracy and the failure of U.S. currency to be backed by gold.
From this link
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/arizona-congresswoman-reportedly-shot-public-event/#ixzz1ATjljY6O
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Here is this guys actual blog too.
http://boyblue.dailykos.com/
He blogged yesterday. It doesn't look good for him, even if he didn't shoot her.
BTW, Txradioguy, I forwarded that blog link to the Phoenix FBI offices.
H5 from me too for this.
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Very classy, people. Kudos. :II:
-Laelth
Go chastise your liberal bretheren over at yahoo.com, moron. They are the ones saying that this instance should be returned a hundred fold on the TEA Party, Glenn Beck, etc.
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This needs to go to the cops.
Scrubbed from the Kos website.
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Scrubbed from the Kos website.
Mike220 has the screen cap and I found the web page on google cache. I saved a copy of that, too.
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Mike220 has the screen cap and I found the web page on google cache. I saved a copy of that, too.
I don't think that was Jared Loughner's blog. That blog talked about volunteering in the 1990's for another political candidate, from what I understand. But I forwarded to the FBI because you just never know. It could have been someone who helped Jared with this act, but might have just been a random blog that was posted at the wrong time.
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On a Myspace page apparently maintained by Loughner, he said goodbye to friends and said, "Please don't be mad at me... I cannot rest."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-gabriel-giffords-suspected-shooter-identified/story?id=12572164
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America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw)
Another video from the same person?
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America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw)
Another video from the same person?
Yep. We know conservatives love to desecrate the flag... they're right up there next to Palestinians and Bill Ayers.
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DUmmies found his youtube page, apparently. Doesn't say much, I don't think. Except for the Commie Manifesto, and whatever the hell "conscious dreaming" is.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
It's still up. His videos have not gotten a lot of views yet. Railing against the currency and mind control.
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America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw)
Another video from the same person?
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America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw)
Another video from the same person?
That video belongs to this guy Starhitshnaz, but Jarod Loughtner (or whatever) has it as a favorite.
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KVOA Live Stream (http://www.kvoa.com/livestream/)
KVOA Tucson, Live Stream newscasts are streamed live into the video player. Please be advised the following player only displays local news, and not national news or other KVOA programming.
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America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw)
Another video from the same person?
Look at that reading list of "favorite books". The Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, Siddhartha...straight off of a TEA Partier's bookshelf. ::)
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6 dead and 18 injured
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108arizona-giffords-brk.html#ixzz1ATh7qR3E
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Daily Kos put "bullseye" on Gabrielle Giffords back in June 2008
Screenshot (http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png)
This is your brain. This is your brain on meth.
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Daily Kos put "bullseye" on Gabrielle Giffords back in June 2008
Screenshot (http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png)
This is your brain. This is your brain on meth.
The Daily Kos don't like her much.
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(http://i54.tinypic.com/kp7r9.jpg)
Here is a high school photo of Loughner from http://www.kold.com/
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Once again it looks more like a left winger ****ing up everything and anyone . There is some serious crazy going on with that guy and no one stopped him till 19 people get shot.
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(http://i54.tinypic.com/kp7r9.jpg)
Here is a high school photo of Loughner from http://www.kold.com/
I wonder what he was like in high school. He thinks grades at schools are unconstitutional.
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This whole thing is disgusting.
I am glad Obama kept things classy instead of his typical 'jump to conclusions' speech.
Even a worm learns....
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Her House bio page doesn't mention any children.
:(
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Prayers for all. The shooter I just heard on TV used to dress up as Father Death. One of his favorite books is The Communist Manifesto.
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Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was a strong NASA supporter.
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Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was a strong NASA supporter.
I'm sure she still is. But it makes sense with her husband and brother in law both being astronauts. Which is pretty cool by the way. Must be one smart family to manage that little feat.
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Starting to look like the "Afghan vet" thing is a Jessie McLiar deal. Dude's ideology (If you can call it that) appears to be some complete blenderization of extreme ideas from both ends with Atheism thrown in for good measure. Sorry if this has already been posted, I've only looked over the past couple of pages since I came home from pulling duty.
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I wonder where where Lopez got her information from. Her claim doesn't seem to be holding up.
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I wonder where where Lopez got her information from. Her claim doesn't seem to be holding up.
I would guess she was standing up when she made that claim...
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It appears that the little ****tard crazy ass was a LIBERAL!!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-giffords-gunman-left-wing-quite-liberal/
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Gabrielle Giffords' father: 'The whole Tea Party were her enemies' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/8248399/Gabrielle-Giffords-father-The-whole-Tea-Party-were-her-enemies.html)
Deranged leftist's blaming the Tea Party .... along with the sycophant kneepad media.
Which might of course lead one to ask .. how many Tea Party members have The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as their favorite reading? Hmm ....?
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Gabrielle Giffords' father: 'The whole Tea Party were her enemies' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/8248399/Gabrielle-Giffords-father-The-whole-Tea-Party-were-her-enemies.html)
Deranged leftist's blaming the Tea Party .... along with the sycophant kneepad media.
Which might os course lead one to ask .. how many Tea Party members have The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as their favorite reading? Hmm ....?
I REFUSE to read either one of them... Does THAT answer your question??
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I guess Mr. Gifford didn't get the memo -- a left-wing whack job did it.
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Daily Kos put "bullseye" on Gabrielle Giffords back in June 2008
Screenshot (http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png)
This is your brain. This is your brain on meth.
EXCELLENT find.
Should I burn a mole, or not? :-)
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I REFUSE to read either one of them... Does THAT answer your question??
I read Mein Kampf. You didn't miss anything. It was all just rambling. It was like one big giant run-on sentence with no structure.
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Should I burn a mole, or not? :-)
If you can afford to? YES! and link and screen capture please! :-)
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I REFUSE to read either one of them... Does THAT answer your question??
Exactly.
I don't think I could pick them up just to SEE what was in those books. I'd be too ashamed to type it into my web browser and go to a book store to get them. Do they even have those books at a store? See... I'm such a right-wing teabagger, I don't even know where to find these leftist, communist, socialist, whatever-ist books.
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I *tried* to read both of them while I was in high school. They were too boring to get into very far and I never bothered to read them again.
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Why is this Sheriff Clarence Dupnik blaming talk radio?
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Why is this Sheriff Clarence Dupnik blaming talk radio?
I guess it's easier to place blame on everyone BUT the shooter himself.
When are the parent's going to get in the news and start sobbing about how much of a nice boy he is/was and this was totally unexpected?
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Why is this Sheriff Clarence Dupnik blaming talk radio?
"Arizona has become a mecca for prejudice and bigotry" - Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik
Nice way to fan the flames pinhead.
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When are the parent's going to get in the news and start sobbing about how much of a nice boy he is/was and this was totally unexpected?
Maybe they know better, or they're afraid to identify themselves.
Maybe they're moonbats.
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Prayers going out to Congresswoman Giffords, other victims and their families!! :( this is sad that our country is coming to this!!
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Why is this Sheriff Clarence Dupnik blaming talk radio?
Because he is a democrat
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If you can afford to? YES! and link and screen capture please! :-)
Meh...I decided to wimp out. :(
There is only one, and not sure there is much clout there for me to risk it.
Not that familiar on how to screen cap either...
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Bit more background on Sheriff Dupnik ... he's REFUSING to enforce Arizona's illegal immigration law. He's also a Democrat.
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Meh...I decided to wimp out. :(
There is only one, and not sure there is much clout there for me to risk it.
Not that familiar on how to screen cap either...
Don't do it if you only have 1 mole then.
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Because he is a democrat
Thanks. Yeah, just got that. Sorry for the dupe.
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Dumpdick is the same jagoff who said he would not enforce SB1070. Since when did law enforcement decide which laws they would or would not enforce? The backbone of a Republic is that we are a nation of laws. When that fails, we're headed to a 3rd world hell-hole. I don't know how the law in AZ works, but if I were Governor, and it was within my legal rights, I would have hauled that SOB into my office and fired him on the spot. If I could deny him his pension I'd do the same.
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The sheriff is an idiot. He is totally fanning the flames. He should answer the questions and give information only. Not give his opinion on talk radio and people on TV.
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Hearing this stuff about the crooked Sheriff Dupnik, googled "sheriff dupnik arizona" and on the Twitter feed, all the libtards talking nothing but praise for him and badmouthing the AZ immigration law. DU's finest at work...
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There are plenty of leftie moonbats in Tucson, but plenty of good folks down there as well. Don't think for a second they'll forget this next election when he has to run again.
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An update...
Judge and 5 Others Killed, Rep Wounded in Arizona Rampage (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/arizona-congresswoman-reportedly-shot-public-event/)
A shooting rampage at a town hall-style event Saturday in Tucson, Ariz., left at least five dead, including a federal judge, and critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who is in intensive care but expected to survive after being shot in the head at close range.
Federal District Judge John M. Roll was among the dead, who also included a 9-year-old girl and at least one of Giffords' aides.
A total of at least 19 people, including three members of Giffords' staff, were shot at the congresswoman's "Congress on Your Corner" event, held at a Safeway grocery store. Several of the wounded are in critical condition at the university hospital.
Piece of shit shot a 9 year old girl. ****er.
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Dumpdick is the same jagoff who said he would not enforce SB1070. Since when did law enforcement decide which laws they would or would not enforce? The backbone of a Republic is that we are a nation of laws. When that fails, we're headed to a 3rd world hell-hole. I don't know how the law in AZ works, but if I were Governor, and it was within my legal rights, I would have hauled that SOB into my office and fired him on the spot. If I could deny him his pension I'd do the same.
This might not be the right thing to say, and I will probably get flamed for doing so, but I am going ahead.
Too bad it wasn't him that got shot instead.
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This might not be the right thing to say, and I will probably get flamed for doing so, but I am going ahead.
Too bad it wasn't him that got shot instead.
Maybe a flesh wound. Nothing life threatening. :whistling:
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There are plenty of leftie moonbats in Tucson, but plenty of good folks down there as well. Don't think for a second they'll forget this next election when he has to run again.
Sparky, I forget where you said it, but the perp failed MEPS. You were probably right. He either failed morals or psych. Dunno which.
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Dude definitely deserves a blanket party. Maybe 'shooting' is a bit too harsh.
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Olberman is officially blaming the shooting on the right wing tea party with his rant. It's coming up in a minute.
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Maybe a flesh wound. Nothing life threatening. :whistling:
Yeah, something like that. Even though he is a lowlife I wouldn't wish death upon him.
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How could this guy shoot a 9 year old kid? A 9 year old kid is dead today because of this crazy loon. :(
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Sparky, I forget where you said it, but the perp failed MEPS. You were probably right. He either failed morals or psych. Dunno which.
I hadn't heard that he had even made it that far. Just that he was considering joining. I suspect in the next few days it will all come out.
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Sparky, I forget where you said it, but the perp failed MEPS. You were probably right. He either failed morals or psych. Dunno which.
News is out there (too lazy to find it again) that says he's had run-ins before with "diversion" programs, which screams drugs.
You and I both know that if he's got that hanging over his head no sane recruiter will even waste the time to send him to MEPS.
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How could this guy shoot a 9 year old kid? A 9 year old kid is dead today because of this crazy loon. :(
I doubt he cared. He was just shooting arbitrarily.
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(http://i.azcentral.com/i/4/4/C/PHP4D29010CECC44.jpg)
http://www.azcentral.com/
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(http://i.azcentral.com/i/sized/3/D/2/e298/j350/PHP4D290F6DE12D3.jpg)
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How could this guy shoot a 9 year old kid? A 9 year old kid is dead today because of this crazy loon. :(
A neighbor is the one who took the child to the meeting, thinking she might enjoy it. How would you like to be that neighbor right now?
Prayers for her and the all the families of all the victims.
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How could this guy shoot a 9 year old kid? A 9 year old kid is dead today because of this crazy loon. :(
And I'm betting that kid was probably walking into the grocery store with her parents. They might not even been in attendance at this meeting this morning.
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News is out there (too lazy to find it again) that says he's had run-ins before with "diversion" programs, which screams drugs.
You and I both know that if he's got that hanging over his head no sane recruiter will even waste the time to send him to MEPS.
You never recruited for Lake Street Station in Minneapolis. Working there is like throwing it against the wall and see if it sticks.
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A neighbor is the one who took the child to the meeting, thinking she might enjoy it. How would you like to be that neighbor right now?
Prayers for her and the all the families of all the victims.
Oh my gosh!!! How sad. :(
That's just heartbreaking. :bawl:
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You never recruited for Lake Street Station in Minneapolis. Working there is like throwing it against the wall and see if it sticks.
Try some of the stations in the greater Los Angeles area. Stations like Inglewood, Bell, Huntington Park, etc., etc...
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Oh my gosh!!! How sad. :(
That's just heartbreaking. :bawl:
LINK (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108arizona-congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shooting-victims-brk08-ON.html)
Details on some of the victims identified thus far.
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Oh my gosh!!! How sad. :(
That's just heartbreaking. :bawl:
Yeah, that's got to suck. :(
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I hope the asshole gets whats coming to him. I wish the best to the families in this situation, I couldn't begin to imagine.
Does Arizona have the death penalty? This guy should get it.
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I hope the asshole gets whats coming to him.
I vote for 'tie him down and run him over with a bulldozer, starting at the toes' but I probably won't get my wish.
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I vote for 'tie him down and run him over with a bulldozer, starting at the toes' but I probably won't get my wish.
I honestly wouldn't have any issue with whatever happened to him, regardless of how extreme it is. He deserves nothing but the worst.
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Keith Olbermann used Sarah Palin's name 37 times in his Countdown broadcast, including 7 times in his final commentary. He referred to her "rifle points" map as proof that she should not be in politics. He mentioned Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh's name several times as well.
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I read Mein Kampf. You didn't miss anything. It was all just rambling. It was like one big giant run-on sentence with no structure.
Same here. It is so disorganized and poorly written. It is obvious that Hitler is nuts.
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An update...
Piece of shit shot a 9 year old girl. ****er.
Killing a child is evil and cowardly.
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I honestly wouldn't have any issue with whatever happened to him, regardless of how extreme it is. He deserves nothing but the worst.
How about letting him live to a ripe old middle age after multiple appeals and lawsuits against the 'unfairness' of the death penalty. Maybe he'll put on 200+ pounds and will claim he's 'too fat to kill'.
Welcome to the death penalty in the United States. Pathetic. This ****er should be dead already. I'm astounded that he is still breathing. **** him.
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How about letting him live to a ripe old middle age after multiple appeals and lawsuits against the 'unfairness' of the death penalty. Maybe he'll put on 200+ pounds and will claim he's 'too fat to kill'.
Welcome to the death penalty in the United States. Pathetic. This asshole should be dead already. **** him.
Jared Loughner is a mass murderer and he wants to die and take people with him. They usually blow their heads off or police shoot them.
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Hindsight is 20/20...
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It appears that the little ****tard crazy ass was a LIBERAL!!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-giffords-gunman-left-wing-quite-liberal/
One post of interest.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:18pm
According to his own Facebook page, I printed out before it was removed today, he stated he wanted to be a woman, liked men, “Love hunting trolls and children†“Most people just don’t seem to understand me, but I’m gonna prove to you all how wrong you are….â€, “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college!â€
He worked for Child Services and for his picture he posted the cover of Animal Farm.
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How about letting him live to a ripe old middle age after multiple appeals and lawsuits against the 'unfairness' of the death penalty. Maybe he'll put on 200+ pounds and will claim he's 'too fat to kill'.
Welcome to the death penalty in the United States. Pathetic. This ****er should be dead already. I'm astounded that he is still breathing. **** him.
It's too bad that law-abiding citizen with a gun didn't hit Loughner with a bullet.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/
Somethings that struck me.
Records from a public records service showed only a minor criminal charge against a Jared L. Loughner with the same date of birth, though such records can be incomplete. The Arizona Republic reported that the charge was for possession of drug paraphernalia. The charge was dismissed in 2008 by the city attorney after Loughner entered a pre-trial diversion program.
The Arizona Republic reported that Loughner interrupted a math class at Pima with nonsensical outbursts, and was barred from class.
Parker described the gunman meeting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords previously: "He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was 'stupid & unintelligent.'"
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Been hearing a lot today about how he may have had it in for the judge, but by those quotes, I'd say it was Giffords all along.
Very sad.
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Been hearing a lot today about how he may have had it in for the judge, but by those quotes, I'd say it was Giffords all along.
Very sad.
Sounds like his hatred towards Gifford is not political, but a condescending reason.
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My condolences to the families of those who were lost, and the wounded have my prayers. I hope justice is done.
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I don't get why the media reported Congresswoman Giffords as dead, when she was alive the whole time? :???:
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I don't get why the media reported Congresswoman Giffords as dead, when she was alive the whole time? :???:
Because journalism majors and CNN interns are at the bottom of their class under the guys that clean the toilets in the faculty lounge.
I bet Keith Olbermann has a degree in journalism (or its retarded cousin, 'mass communications').
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Because journalism majors and CNN interns are at the bottom of their class under the guys that clean the toilets in the faculty lounge.
I bet Keith Olbermann has a degree in journalism (or its retarded cousin, 'mass communications').
Go figure.
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I don't get why the media reported Congresswoman Giffords as dead, when she was alive the whole time? :???:
Probably for the same reasons they were all chomping at the bit to blame the right: sensationalism, laziness and political bias.
Cindie
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So much for the "he was an Afghan war very meme:
Loughner's page on YouTube lists Tucson as his hometown. He also said he attended Northwest Aztec College and Pima County Community College. And in one of the videos, he says he is a military recruit.
But an Army official told Fox News Loughner attempted to enlist in the Army in December 2008 but was denied.
The Army provided this statement:
"The Army has confirmed that the suspect was never in the Army. He attempted to enlist in the Army but was rejected for service. In accordance with the Privacy Act, we will not discuss why he was rejected."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/08/shooting-suspects-apparent-youtube-video/
And for those wondering why she was originally pronounced dead. Let's not jump to conclusions about the media wanting to sensationalize something.
Like with any 'eyewittness event' there is lots of confusion at first. Lots of varying stories from people who saw the same even through different sets of eyes and at different angles.
The woman took a round to the head at a distance of four feet. Easy to see why they'd say she was dead. Especially if at any time during the time between when EMS arrived and the trauma center got to her she lost vital signs. Reporters monitor police scanners...could have been something as easy as hearing that sent over the radio to the hospital while she was en route.
And for those of you old enough to remember...did anyone looking at the pictures think James Brady was still alive after he took a round to the head when Reagan was shot?
(http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2009/06/large_HINCKLEY%20MAIN%2006-17.jpg)
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I heard that someone tried to take a shot at the MOFO but missed. I don't know how I would feel if I tried to stop someone like that and failed . I'm hoping that story isn't true.
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I heard that someone tried to take a shot at the MOFO but missed. I don't know how I would feel if I tried to stop someone like that and failed . I'm hoping that story isn't true.
As far as I've heard, nobody attempted to fire at the perpetrator.
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She/he is at OET. :whatever:
Same diff really. OET is nothing more than a bunch of disgruntled and/or banned DUmmies.
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Fox News just stated Homeland Security is claiming he "may" be a member or, or influenced by a conservative white supremest group, American Renaissance.
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Fox News just stated Homeland Security is claiming he "may" be a member or, or influenced by a conservative white supremest group, American Renaissance.
Boy, the left just is NOT going to be happy until they get another Tim McVeigh, are they? And of course, when this "association" turns out to be a load of horseshit, do you think they'll clarify or retract?
No siree, we've got an agenda to push here, people! Ya'll found out he wasn't in the military so we have to associate him (or push him away from the left) some other way!
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Boy, the left just is NOT going to be happy until they get another Tim McVeigh, are they? And of course, when this "association" turns out to be a load of horseshit, do you think they'll clarify or retract?
No siree, we've got an agenda to push here, people! Ya'll found out he wasn't in the military so we have to associate him (or push him away from the left) some other way!
Let this be another reminder as to the importance of an independent news organization and the means of dissemination on a minute's notice.
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Watching Christiane Amanpour right now, she stated that the suspect has no known ties to the Tea Party or any conservative group. That seems pretty strong for her, but I am good with that.
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Watching Christiane Amanpour right now, she stated that the suspect has no known ties to the Tea Party or any conservative group. That seems pretty strong for her, but I am good with that.
Well she OBVIOUSLY misspoke. What she meant to say was, he DOES have known ties to the Tea Party and conservative groups.
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Watching Christiane Amanpour right now, she stated that the suspect has no known ties to the Tea Party or any conservative group. That seems pretty strong for her, but I am good with that.
If the "war whore" has to admit that, then the whole "right-winger" meme is about to take a dump.
I hope you DUmmies are proud of what you did yesterday.
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Watching Christiane Amanpour right now, she stated that the suspect has no known ties to the Tea Party or any conservative group. That seems pretty strong for her, but I am good with that.
DU will put out a hit on her I am sure.
And for you lurking DUmbasses I mean a metaphorical hit not a real hit.
You have to specify to these idiots when you use a metaphor.
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Well she OBVIOUSLY misspoke. What she meant to say was, he DOES have known ties to the Tea Party and conservative groups.
She's part of the right wing media cabal that prevents people from REALLY knowing the TRUTH!!!!!!! /DU mode
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The tragic shooting spree Saturday at a political rally in Tucson, Arizona has an unfortunate baseball tie.
Christina-Taylor Greene, the 9-year-old child who was killed, is the granddaughter of ex-MLB manager Dallas Green and the daughter of current Dodgers scout John Green. This from Adam Rubin of ESPN New York.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/09/dallas-greens-granddaughter-killed-in-tucson-shooting/
Apparentlly, the 9 year old girl was the grand daughter of ex MLB manager Dallas Greene. Interesting find, but more bad news. Rest in Peace, Christina. :(
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Boy, the left just is NOT going to be happy until they get another Tim McVeigh, are they? And of course, when this "association" turns out to be a load of horseshit, do you think they'll clarify or retract?
No siree, we've got an agenda to push here, people! Ya'll found out he wasn't in the military so we have to associate him (or push him away from the left) some other way!
Timothy McVeigh was no right winger for sure. He got upset when he shot a groundhog, but had no problems killing people in the Oklahoma City Bombing. He even wrote a letter railing against slaughter houses because he said they were inhumane. He was probably the reason why Columbine happened because the killers idolized him.
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I think this will backfire on the left. People, not just political junkies but ordinary Americans, are paying attention. And the majority of the country (something like 2.5 to 1) identify themselves as conservatives and support the Tea Party movement. However, the left is incapable of change.
This is a tactic that's always worked for them. It's cynical and disgusting and will be seen as such. Their blatant and deliberate betrayal of the country since 0bama's election hasn't gone unnoticed (hence the recent historic election). Karma's a bitch.
Cindie
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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/09/dallas-greens-granddaughter-killed-in-tucson-shooting/
Apparentlly, the 9 year old girl was the grand daughter of ex MLB manager Dallas Greene. Interesting find, but more bad news. Rest in Peace, Christina. :(
Christina-Taylor Green was born on September 11, 2001, the day America was attacked.
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^ Actually, I believe while researching the two boys, I read somewhere that Harris, and Klebold brushed up on their McVeigh knowledge, and were fans.
And I know that. That just compounds the sadness.
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So much for the "he was an Afghan war very meme:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/08/shooting-suspects-apparent-youtube-video/
And for those wondering why she was originally pronounced dead. Let's not jump to conclusions about the media wanting to sensationalize something.
Like with any 'eyewittness event' there is lots of confusion at first. Lots of varying stories from people who saw the same even through different sets of eyes and at different angles.
The woman took a round to the head at a distance of four feet. Easy to see why they'd say she was dead. Especially if at any time during the time between when EMS arrived and the trauma center got to her she lost vital signs. Reporters monitor police scanners...could have been something as easy as hearing that sent over the radio to the hospital while she was en route.
And for those of you old enough to remember...did anyone looking at the pictures think James Brady was still alive after he took a round to the head when Reagan was shot?
(http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2009/06/large_HINCKLEY%20MAIN%2006-17.jpg)
If it bleeds, it leads. The media has police scanners and a lot of things go on when an emergency situation happens.
Looking at the photo of James Brady, it would be hard to tell if he is dead or alive.
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^ Actually, I believe while researching the two boys, I read somewhere that Harris, and Klebold brushed up on their McVeigh knowledge, and were fans.
And I know that. That just compounds the sadness.
I remember when Columbine happened, I knew this had something to do with the Oklahoma City Bombing and Timothy McVeigh got his revenge. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were virulently anti-police. I suspect that Harris and Klebold also likely admired Ramzi Yousef (1993 World Trade Center Bombing) and Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber). Klebold's birthday is September 11, 1981.
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Authorities Search for Second Man in Deadly Arizona Shooting Spree
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/arizona-congresswoman-reportedly-shot-public-event/
Jared Loughner may have not acted alone.
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Arizona Suspect Likely Facing Death Penalty for Fatally Shooting Federal Judge
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/arizona-suspect-likely-facing-death-penalty-fatally-shooting-federal-judge/
I think the federal government will charge him first since Judge John Roll was killed.
Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said authorities believe Giffords was targeted by the shooter. But Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano said the killer is likely facing the death penalty even if he didn't target Roll or others in particular during the shooting.
He should, let alone killing a child.
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Congresswoman Giffords Able to Communicate with Doctors Through Commands
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/09/fbi-director-robert-mueller-takes-lead-arizona-shooting-investigation/
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was able to communicate with doctors through simple commands, hospital officials said Sunday as the Arizona Democrat remained in critical condition following a mass casualty shooting Saturday that prompted FBI Director Robert Mueller to take lead of the investigation.
During a press conference on Sunday at the University of Arizona hospital, Dr. Michael Lemole, chief of neurosurgery at University of Arizona hospital said about Giffords:
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He needs to get the death penalty for killing a 9 year old.
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Anyone hear the sheriff again a few minutes ago? Very unprofessional, he should leave his political views out of this. Very distasteful.
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He needs to get the death penalty for killing a 9 year old.
I say expose him to radiation from critical mass.
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Anyone hear the sheriff again a few minutes ago? Very unprofessional, he should leave his political views out of this. Very distasteful.
You're talking about a guy who is a guest with Special Keith.
No way his political views are gonna stay out of anything!
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Anyone hear the sheriff again a few minutes ago? Very unprofessional, he should leave his political views out of this. Very distasteful.
I agree, especially in public.
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Mother of Youngest Shooting Victim Talks
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4490301/mother-of-youngest-shooting-victim-talks
Very sad.
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
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Anyone hear the sheriff again a few minutes ago? Very unprofessional, he should leave his political views out of this. Very distasteful.
That's because the left has no class.
Cindie
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I say expose him to radiation from critical mass.
:yeahthat:
Of course being in the general population of a prison is not exactly going to be pleasant either.
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Mother of Youngest Shooting Victim Talks
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4490301/mother-of-youngest-shooting-victim-talks
Very sad.
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
I cannot watch that right now. I just don't understand why she would want to talk to media so soon. :bawl:
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I cannot watch that right now. I just don't understand why she would want to talk to media so soon. :bawl:
They said the family was upset she was referred to as simply "a nine year old." They wanted to put a face on it. It was really emotional -- Gretchen was bawling her eyes out.
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Mother of Youngest Shooting Victim Talks
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4490301/mother-of-youngest-shooting-victim-talks
Very sad.
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
I started crying this morning the second Gretchen lost it when she was asking her questions. I had to leave the room. So sad. :bawl:
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They said the family was upset she was referred to as simply "a nine year old." They wanted to put a face on it. It was really emotional -- Gretchen was bawling her eyes out.
I understand. I know her name is Christina. I was just shocked that a grieving mother could talk to national news media right now. The video was on for about a minute and I could hear the tears. It was just too hard and I decided to pass on watching it for now.
Any mother would want their child referred to their actual name, not just their age and gender. It's just so sad. :bawl:
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Anyone hear the sheriff again a few minutes ago? Very unprofessional, he should leave his political views out of this. Very distasteful.
Well hopefully, given his behavior these past two days, come election day he will lose badly (if the voters use any common sense).
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(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/e/c8/357/ec83577b-580f-5a0a-b3b2-6dac8640f187-revisions/4d29504294407.preview-300.jpg)
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Anyone hear the sheriff again a few minutes ago? Very unprofessional, he should leave his political views out of this. Very distasteful.
One of my Facebook friends is a group called "Border Narcotics Intelligence". (They do AZ border drug interdiction and illegal aliens reporting) I messaged BNI this morning saying how thoughtless and classless the Pima Co. Sheriff was. They replied that none of their group is too pleased with him.
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Sorry, if I posted the video link of the interview, but had to be shown here. :(
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Very sad day my prayers are with all of the families and friends of those that were killed or hurt. My heart breaks for the parents of the child :bawl:
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(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/e/c8/357/ec83577b-580f-5a0a-b3b2-6dac8640f187-revisions/4d29504294407.preview-300.jpg)
She is so beautiful.
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When I see a beautiful child such as that it breaks my heart and makes me hold my two just a little closer
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I have a mixture of sadness, and extreme anger in the pit of my stomach.
I was heartbroken hearing the phone interview Gretchen Carlson gave with the mom. She was broken up as well.
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That Sheriff Dupnik has blood on his hands in my opinion. If he knew Ms Giffords has had death threats against her then why didn't he do his job and protect the public? Instead he has to spin this in the most unprofessional way possible. He should be run out of town on a rail. Asshole.
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That Sheriff Dupnik has blood on his hands in my opinion. If he knew Ms Giffords has had death threats against her then why didn't he do his job and protect the public? Instead he has to spin this in the most unprofessional way possible. He should be run out of town on a rail. Asshole.
He is being interviewed right now by Megyn Kelly. He is spewing his crap again and she is calling him on it.
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He is being interviewed right now by Megyn Kelly. He is spewing his crap again and she is calling him on it.
Why is anyone giving him any time to speak? The guy is using this tragedy to spew his political opinions.
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Why is anyone giving him any time to speak? The guy is using this tragedy to spew his political opinions.
I don't know but this interview with Megyn Kelly was the first I have heard where they questioned him at all about his political bias.
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Thanks for the update BEG. I'll be watching.
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OMG he is an idiot. He blamed the "vitriol" about the Obamacare because Giffords supported it. Then when Megyn Kelly pressed him on it he had to admit it was just his view, that there were no facts behind it at all. If I were a democrat I would want him out of the public view immediately.
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OMG he is an idiot. He blamed the "vitriol" about the Obamacare because Giffords supported it. Then when Megyn Kelly pressed him on it he had to admit it was just his view, that there were no facts behind it at all. If I were a democrat I would want him out of the public view immediately.
If you recall the Times square almost bomber was described by, Bloomberg I believe it was, as a tea party guy mad about the health care bill.
Yet when the FT Hood shooting occurred, Barry told us not to jump to any conclusions.
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I see the shooter's mom is a county official.
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I see the shooter's mom is a county official.
Interesting. What does she do?
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Interesting. What does she do?
The sheriff also said he couldn't answer the question about him having prior knowledge of the danger that the shooter posed as his ATTORNEY told him not to. I think there is something there.
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Can you imagine being that monsters mom? How awful
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OMG he is an idiot. He blamed the "vitriol" about the Obamacare because Giffords supported it. Then when Megyn Kelly pressed him on it he had to admit it was just his view, that there were no facts behind it at all. If I were a democrat I would want him out of the public view immediately.
Hopefully after all is said and done he will be pressured to resign.
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Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/jared-loughners-behavior-recor.html
From June 1, the first day of class:
"One day down and nineteen to go. We do have one student in the class who was disruptive today, I'm not certain yet if he was on drugs (as one person surmised) or disturbed. He scares me a bit. The teacher tried to throw him out and he refused to go, so I talked to the teacher afterward. Hopefully he will be out of class very soon, and not come back with an automatic weapon."
From June 14:
"We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird. I sit by the door with my purse handy. If you see it on the news one night, know that I got out fast..."
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Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner: A Certified Lefty Nut -- His Videos, Favorite Books: Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf UPDATE: High School Friend Calls Him "Very Lefty" PHOTO
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/01/arizona-shooter-jared-laughner-a-certified-nut.html%20
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Interesting. What does she do?
the article just said she worked for the county.
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American politician shot in the head by gunman who left six dead is cousin of Gwyneth Paltrow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345413/Gabrielle-Giffords-shot-Jared-Loughner-left-6-dead-Gwyneth-Paltrows-cousin.html
An American congresswoman who was shot in the head at point blank range in an apparent assassination attempt is a cousin of actress Gwyneth Paltrow, it was revealed today.
Gabrielle Giffords, who survived despite a bullet going through her brain, is the first cousin once removed of the actress.
Six people were killed and 13 people seriously injured after a gunman went berserk with a Glock 9mm pistol in Arizona yesterday.
~SNIP~
GUNMAN POSTED PICTURE OF PISTOL SUPERIMPOSED ON WHITE HOUSE
Gunman Jared Loughner posted a picture of a handgun on his MySpace page before the attack.
The 22-year-old, who claims he was recently recruited by the US Army, positioned a photo of the White House behind the weapon. The words ‘United States History’ also appear.
In a series of ramblings, Loughner bragged that he could create a ‘new currency’ and ‘new language’ and accused the American government of ‘mind-control’ and ‘brainwashing.’
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The sheriff also said he couldn't answer the question about him having prior knowledge of the danger that the shooter posed as his ATTORNEY told him not to. I think there is something there.
Sheriff Dupnik puts some of the blame of the shooting on "one party blocking another party from bettering this country."
So, if I'm hearing this assclown correctly, the answer, of course, is to curb our access to free speech.
Since so many people are against ObamaCare, and they are obviously all crazy mass-murderers no different from Loughner or McVeigh, then we must do what is right and stop the vitriol. Left-wing vitriol is fine. It’s the right-wing vitriol and opposition to pure democrat purity that is so troublesome.
Free speech must be sifted and pre-approved first by the proper authority. (D)
Thus sayeth Tuscon Sheriff Dipshit.
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American politician shot in the head by gunman who left six dead is cousin of Gwyneth Paltrow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345413/Gabrielle-Giffords-shot-Jared-Loughner-left-6-dead-Gwyneth-Paltrows-cousin.html
~SNIP~
GUNMAN POSTED PICTURE OF PISTOL SUPERIMPOSED ON WHITE HOUSE
This gets stranger. NBC news claims Loughner is a right winger, when he is hard core leftist.
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Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth...... I think that's right out of the Communist's playbook.
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This gets stranger. NBC news claims Loughner is a right winger, when he is hard core leftist.
That is not surprising. Fox News is the only major news outfit left that is not biased.
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Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth...... I think that's right out of the Communist's playbook.
Goebbels said that too.
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He is being interviewed right now by Megyn Kelly. He is spewing his crap again and she is calling him on it.
I hope she buried him with his own crap.
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He is being interviewed right now by Megyn Kelly. He is spewing his crap again and she is calling him on it.
I hope she tore him a new one
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This is interesting, I just read this in the comments section at Politico:
We should all take a deep breath and stop the political blame game. This man was really disturbed and I think that what set him off was not the politics of the day but a simple misspelling of his name by one of the Congresswoman's staffers. Sadly that was probably all it took to set him off. He talks about grammer and illiteracy throughout all of his postings and he calls his congressional district illiterate.
It is trully appalling that this young punk was able to kill and injure so many people yesterday but the most disturbing part of this whole thing was that he was probably set off by a misspelling of his name and not by a toxic political environment.
so I ask this, isn't the staffer who sent that thank you letter to loughner with his name misspelled really the one to blame for this massace?
or shall we blame the person responsible?
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He is being interviewed right now by Megyn Kelly. He is spewing his crap again and she is calling him on it.
What did Megyn say? and what was his reaction?
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What did Megyn say? and what was his reaction?
I saw it live but I found it on the Blaze. I haven't watched it again because they are seriously making me sick. I had to change the channel to 48 hours because I couldn't stand it any longer.
Here is the link: LINK (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/megyn-kelly-confronts-az-sheriff-over-political-spin-on-shooting/)
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Here's the interview here:
[youtube=425,350]wB5NgR8j9a4[/youtube]
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I saw it live but I found it on the Blaze. I haven't watched it again because they are seriously making me sick. I had to change the channel to 48 hours because I couldn't stand it any longer.
Here is the link: LINK (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/megyn-kelly-confronts-az-sheriff-over-political-spin-on-shooting/)
Thanks, I just found it on youtube and the comments are ignorant!
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This is interesting, I just read this in the comments section at Politico:
We should all take a deep breath and stop the political blame game. This man was really disturbed and I think that what set him off was not the politics of the day but a simple misspelling of his name by one of the Congresswoman's staffers. Sadly that was probably all it took to set him off. He talks about grammer and illiteracy throughout all of his postings and he calls his congressional district illiterate.
It is trully appalling that this young punk was able to kill and injure so many people yesterday but the most disturbing part of this whole thing was that he was probably set off by a misspelling of his name and not by a toxic political environment.
so I ask this, isn't the staffer who sent that thank you letter to loughner with his name misspelled really the one to blame for this massace?
or shall we blame the person responsible?
It could very well be that and over a misspelling of his last name. I saw his video and rails against illiteracy. Sounds like Loughner is psychotic.
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Thanks, I just found it on youtube and the comments are ignorant!
YouTube is full of nutjobs. :mental:
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It could very well be that and over a misspelling of his last name. Sounds like Loughner is clearly psychotic.
See it is the tea baggers fault they misspell signs all the time. [/dummy mode]
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Once again it looks more like a left winger ****ing up everything and anyone . There is some serious crazy going on with that guy and no one stopped him till 19 people get shot.
My thoughts and prayers, like every other decent person's, are focused on the survivors and family members and those who lost their lives to a madman.
I'm reading through some of youall's comments since I've finally got a chance. This one by you, Airwolf, particularly struck me. How many times are the powers that be going to ignore a crazy person until it's too late? All the signs were there at Ft. Hood that the Muslim terrorist Nidal Malik Hassan would finally erupt, but in the interests of political correctness he was passed on through the military system.
Of course, he was a member of a group the Left vigorously defends, all the poor misunderstood Muslims. :thatsright: They can hardly pry a word of condemnation out of their mouths when one of those assclowns commits murder, but let there even be a suspicion of the criminal terrorist being to the Right of the political spectrum then the media bloodhounds are all over it like maggots on a corpse.
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If you recall the Times square almost bomber was described by, Bloomberg I believe it was, as a tea party guy mad about the health care bill.
Yet when the FT Hood shooting occurred, Barry told us not to jump to any conclusions.
Makes them very hypocritical right there. Obama always jumps to conclusions.
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Once again it looks more like a left winger ****ing up everything and anyone . There is some serious crazy going on with that guy and no one stopped him till 19 people get shot.
The sad fact is many assassins and mass murderers like Jared Loughner showed warning signs and it was too late to stop them.
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Here's the interview here:
[youtube=425,350]wB5NgR8j9a4[/youtube]
What a pompous ass! Blowhard moves like this one are directly leading to vitriol he whines about. Nobody on our side pined for, suggested, or manipulated anyone into doing this. For christ's sake, if the graphic on Palin's website were pushpins this doofus would be accusing Palin of trying to get everyone stabbed.
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Jared Loughner Parents Knew He Had Mental Health Issues
http://news.lalate.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-parents-knew-he-had-mental-health-issues/
LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Jared Loughner’s parents were put on alert by Pima Community College of their son’s mental health issues. Jared Loughner’s parents, Amy and Randy Loughner, received a letter from Pima Community College or around October 7, 2010 of their son’s suspension. In writing the Loughner parents, Pima advised them that their son needed mental health evaluation, promptly.
It is obvious he is mentally ill.
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Jared Loughner Parents Knew He Had Mental Health Issues
http://news.lalate.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-parents-knew-he-had-mental-health-issues/
It is obvious he is mentally ill.
Well, we've been saying for years now that liberalism is a mental disorder. This is what happens when it is left untreated.
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This is interesting, I just read this in the comments section at Politico:
I thought that's what set Mark David Chapman off. Lennon's autograph wasn't grandiose enough or scribbled or something like that.
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I thought that's what set Mark David Chapman off. Lennon's autograph wasn't grandiose enough or scribbled or something like that.
Some people's ego are just too big for their own good. They are insecure. Loughner thought Gifford was stupid. Could very well be that.
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Speaking of YouTube and it's nut jobs, somebody has either hacked Giffords' YouTube page or is playing a sick joke.
http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2
Note the lower left corner of subscriptions. One is for Jared Loughner's YouTube page and one to Rep Ike Skelton's (MO) YouTube page. Furthermore, Giffords' age is wrong. It shows last logged in 21 hours ago, which she would have been in the hospital, just out of surgery. It's likely that a staffer is maintaining her page, but one would think that they'd get her age right or at least close.
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Speaking of YouTube and it's nut jobs, somebody has either hacked Giffords' YouTube page or is playing a sick joke.
http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2
Note the lower left corner of subscriptions. One is for Jared Loughner's YouTube page and one to Rep Ike Skelton's (MO) YouTube page. Furthermore, Giffords' age is wrong. It shows last logged in 21 hours ago, which she would have been in the hospital, just out of surgery. It's likely that a staffer is maintaining her page, but one would think that they'd get her age right or at least close.
I think it is a sick joke since it has giffords2 as the name. I would think Gifford would have no numbers. I have seen people setup fake YouTube accounts to troll in emotionally charged topics. One that came to mind was someone would always use the name Sioux and create many accounts. That person would use pictures of girls.
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Exclusive: Jared Loughner Radically Changed Before Alleged Shooting, Friend Says
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-suspected-gabrielle-giffords-shooter-school/story?id=12575278
"One day [Loughner] started making comments about terrorism and laughing about killing the baby," classmate Don Coorough told ABC News, referring to a discussion about abortions. "The rest of us were looking at him in shock ... I thought this young man was troubled."
"A girl had written a poem about an abortion. It was very emotional and she was teary eyed and he said something about strapping a bomb to the fetus and making a baby bomber," Ali said.
He wrote poems.
"Looking around, the cute women are catching my eye, probably waiting for their hot boyfriends wandering in the locker room," one poem, entitled Meat Head, reads. "Confused look on my face of no idea what to do, deciding to copy other men's routines..."
In another poem entitled "Dead as a dodo.", Loughn describes a serene, but somber scene at a cemetery. "The full moon slowly setting for the sun is rising. At the local cemetery there is weeping. The dodo is finally deing [sic]," it reads.
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I'm very sad for all the victims and their families.
And I'm angry, angry at politicians making this political, angry at the media for spinning this story.
And I'm fearful that this guy is going to walk. Temporary insanity, ends up doing a few years in an institution and walking the streets when he's 'cured'.
And all the bleeding heart liberals will be crying for him when that day comes. Aww, he said he's sorry and he promises to take his meds. He's no longer a threat, (as long as he remembers to take his happy pills), and it will be an injustice to keep him locked up.
Anyone want to bet with me? I'm giving even odds.
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If it goes on insanity, which looks to be a highly-probable defense which the lawyer will pursue even if Loughner doesn't want to (Which is typical of true nut case perps, since they don't agree they're nuts), I don't think the word 'Temporary' is going to be involved. All the indications are the guy is a raving loon.
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This source says that Loughner wasn't considered for military service because he failed a drug screen.
He's a nutcase, he's a druggie, and he's a murderer.
Damn. Just damn.
Thom Shanker (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/live-blog-latest-developments-on-arizona-shooting/?hp#bill-to-ban-crosshairs)
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This source says that Loughner wasn't considered for military service because he failed a drug screen.
He's a nutcase, he's a druggie, and he's a murderer.
Damn. Just damn.
Thom Shanker (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/live-blog-latest-developments-on-arizona-shooting/?hp#bill-to-ban-crosshairs)
Love to see who released that, because that's Privacy Act information.
Besides, even though they piss test at MEPS, one can still DEP in but are DEP-discharged if the test comes back hot. Sounds like this kid didn't even make it into DEP.
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Love to see who released that, because that's Privacy Act information.
Besides, even though they piss test at MEPS, one can still DEP in but are DEP-discharged if the test comes back hot. Sounds like this kid didn't even make it into DEP.
Privacy Act is what the Army quoted when they said they couldn't release that information initially - a day or two ago.
Apparently times have changed, or a bit of money changed hands. Who knows?
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Privacy Act is what the Army quoted when they said they couldn't release that information initially - a day or two ago.
Apparently times have changed, or a bit of money changed hands. Who knows?
Or their "military source" is some dumbshit E-2 who hasn't the first clue of what the Privacy Act is for. We know how the MSM plays that game.
If they were an E-4, they'd call it a "highly placed source."
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Well, in some situations, an E4 would know more than anyone else, just sayin'.
And his drug-screening failure could mean bombing an interview as well as the local police arrest record, either in addition to or instead of the piss test...it may not even have gotten as far as a piss test.
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Sheriff: 'He specifically targeted the congresswoman'
Federal authorities filed murder charges Sunday against 22-year-old Jared Loughner, as new evidence suggested the alleged gunman in Saturday's rampage had fixated on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) while his mental health deteriorated.
Loughner will make his first appearance in an Arizona courtroom Monday at 2 p.m. Mountain time (4 p.m. in Washington). The Arizona's public defender's office has asked that he be represented by Judy Clarke, the San Diego attorney who helped defend Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Susan Smith, a South Carolina woman who drowned her two sons in 1994, the Associated Press reported.
Authorities said Sunday that he appeared to have acted alone, without ties to anti-government or hate groups. A second "person of interest" seen with him near the shooting scene turned out to be the cabdriver who had dropped him off. Authorities said the man had no connection to the shootings.
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/09/AR2011010904478.html?nav=rss_email/components)
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Gabrielle Giffords shooting: Frightening, twisted shrine in Arizona killer Jared Lee Loughner's yard
A sinister shrine reveals a chilling occult dimension in the mind of the deranged gunman accused of shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.
Hidden within a camouflage tent behind Jared Lee Loughner's home sits an alarming altar with a skull sitting atop a pot filled with shriveled oranges.
A row of ceremonial candles and a bag of potting soil lay nearby, photos reveal.
Experts on Sunday said the elements are featured in the ceremonies of a number of occult groups.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/01/10/alg_loughner_shrine-exclusive.jpg) go to this site quick it may not be around long.
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I'm very sad for all the victims and their families.
And I'm angry, angry at politicians making this political, angry at the media for spinning this story.
And I'm fearful that this guy is going to walk. Temporary insanity, ends up doing a few years in an institution and walking the streets when he's 'cured'.
And all the bleeding heart liberals will be crying for him when that day comes. Aww, he said he's sorry and he promises to take his meds. He's no longer a threat, (as long as he remembers to take his happy pills), and it will be an injustice to keep him locked up.
Anyone want to bet with me? I'm giving even odds.
Well said! Welcome! This article is about the possibility that Loughner could walk. Hopefully, his ass gets fried for it.
Could Jared Loughner Escape a Prison Sentence?
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/could-jared-loughner-escape-a-prison-sentence/
I recall that Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer were insane. Also, they were psychopaths.
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Who is Jared Lee Loughner?
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/99161/20110110/jared-lee-loughner-who-is-gabrielle-giffords-congresswoman-arizona-shooting-charges-court-motive.htm#
His birthday is September 10, 1988.
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However, Potok says inferences can be made about his intellectual leanings from his reading list that includes books that run a theme of "individual versus the totalitarian state". Some of his favorites were Ayn Rand’s 'We the Living' and 'Atlas Shrugged' and George Orwell’s '1984' and 'Animal Farm' as well as Hitler's 'Mein Kampf.'
"... I think Loughner’s reading list, although it included children’s books and a few classics, had an underlying theme — the individual versus the totalitarian state. Certainly, that’s the explicit central theme of Ayn Rand’s We the Living and Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm, among others."
I hope this pinhead didn't hurt himself making that leap of faith. :whatever:
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TUCSON, Ariz.—Accused gunman Jared Lee Loughner appeared to have been long obsessed with U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
A safe at Mr. Loughner's home contained a form letter from Ms. Giffords' office thanking him for attending a 2007 "Congress on your Corner'' event in Tucson. The safe also held an envelope with handwritten notes, including the name of Ms. Giffords, as well as "I planned ahead," "My assassination," and what appeared to be Mr. Loughner's signature, according to an FBI affidavit.
More: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576071191163461466.html?
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Everything about this guy is he was a stalker crazy leftist. He wanted to be a woman, he wanted pot to be the US currency.He had a skull in his backyard and my have worshiped it. Other students were afraid of him and wrote about it. They feared each day he would bring a gun to school and shoot it up. All the signs were there.
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Sheriff has a lawyer. Momma works for the county. He was a known nutcase and trouble maker.
I'm thinking sheriff is guilty of covering up his shit for momma.
...and is now worried about covering his own ass.
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Sheriff has a lawyer. Momma works for the county. He was a known nutcase and trouble maker.
I'm thinking sheriff is guilty of covering up his shit for momma.
...and is now worried about covering his own ass.
That could very well be the case. The parents name are Randy and Amy Loughner.
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Jared Loughner Had 5 Run-ins with College Police
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/10/national/main7231560.shtml
Jared Loughner, the suspected gunman in a Tucson shooting rampage, had five run-ins with Pima Community College campus police and was placed on suspension for violating the student code of conduct, which later led to his withdrawal from the school.
His high school friends said they fell out of touch with Loughner and last spoke to him around March, when one of them was going to set up some bottles in the desert for target practice and Loughner suggested he might come along. It was unusual - Loughner hadn't expressed an interest in guns before - and his increasingly confrontational behavior was pushing them apart. He would send bizarre text messages, but also break off contact for weeks on end.
Several people who knew Loughner at community college said he did not engage in political discussions - in fact, he didn't talk much at all, and when he did classmates cringed.
"He made a lot of the people really uncomfortable, especially the girls in the class," said Steven Cates, who attended an advanced poetry writing class with Loughner at Pima Community College last spring. Though he struck up a passing friendship with Loughner, he said a group of other students went to the teacher to complain about Loughner at one point.
It is possible that Loughner has Schizoid and Schizotypal personality disorder. Here are signs of schizoid.
Emotional coldness, detachment or reduced affection.
Limited capacity to express either positive or negative emotions towards others.
Consistent preference for solitary activities.
Very few, if any, close friends or relationships, and a lack of desire for such.
Indifference to either praise or criticism.
Taking pleasure in few, if any, activities.
Indifference to social norms and conventions.
Preoccupation with fantasy and introspection.
Lack of desire for sexual experiences with another person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder
Bold indicates characteristics of him.
Here are signs of schizotypal.
Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations)
Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped)
Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
Inappropriate or constricted affect
Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar
Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx33.htm
Bold indicates characteristics of him.
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Sheriff has a lawyer. Momma works for the county. He was a known nutcase and trouble maker.
I'm thinking sheriff is guilty of covering up his shit for momma.
...and is now worried about covering his own ass.
Funny you should mention that, JohnnyReb...
From AoSHQ: (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/310494.php)
Blogger's Report: Sherrif Dupnik Pre-Emptively Blaming Sarah Palin Because He Knows True Blame Lay In His Office?
Hey, is this an unverified report, and am I slandering a man without waiting on evidence and confirmation? I learned that from the media.
This is the claim. We'll see if it's true.
Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County...
Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more..,,
The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.
If the basic factual predicate there is true, the motivation and actions alleged make sense -- if you've dropped the ball, badly, and that's led to six murders and multiple grave injuries, damnit, you'd better start soliciting political allies and dreaming up faraway scapegoats.
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More Ace: (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/310495.php)
Dupnik's Report: Yeah, Loughner Did Make Death Threats
I had left a question mark about this element of the charge. But as commenters, and Moe Lane, tell me, Dupnik himself confessed that Loughner had made death threats.
He didn't say against whom, but I have a pretty good guess that Gabrielle Giffords was one of the targets.
So... of course this is Sarah Palin's fault.
Did you know when Sarah Palin resigned the governorship she immediately assumed the position of Acting Sheriff of Pima County? It's true; it's right there in the Alaska Constitution. If you resign your post as governor you immediately become sheriff of an Arizona County.
Bad Sarah. Very bad Sarah.
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Family of suspect in Giffords shooting blocked access to house
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/10/20110110gabrielle-giffords-shooting-suspect-family-barricade-brk10-ON.html
FBI agents working on the Gabrielle Giffords shooing encountered trouble gaining entry to the suspect's family home Monday morning.
Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.
At about 12:25 p.m., agents began banging on the blockade, yelling, "This is the FBI. Let us in."
Some agents were sent behind the house, and they were able to get inside after talking to family members.
Interesting they stopped the FBI. This stinks to high heaven!
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Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.
Sounds like being a crazy loon runs in the family.
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"Sheriff" Dumbdink makes Roscoe P. Coltrane look like a rocket scientist.
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Sounds like being a crazy loon runs in the family.
On Fox News earlier , they were talking to a neighbor that said the father yelled at him several times when the city did not pick up the neighbors trash. Dear old dad thought it was the neighbors fault that the full garbage can was left outside.
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Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.
I wonder when and why they did that. Strange turn of events.
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Suspect in Giffords shooting smirks in court appearance
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/10/20110110gabrielle-giffords-suspect-loughner-court-appearance-brk10-ON.html
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The whole family sounds unstable.
Who blocks out the FBI?
I guess if you don't want the media coming to your front door, fine.. whatever. But the FBI? Open the damn door.
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The whole family sounds unstable.
Who blocks out the FBI?
I guess if you don't want the media coming to your front door, fine.. whatever. But the FBI? Open the damn door.
Who has the clout to stop the FBI?
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Dupnik's Report: Yeah, Loughner Did Make Death Threats
I had left a question mark about this element of the charge. But as commenters, and Moe Lane, tell me, Dupnik himself confessed that Loughner had made death threats.
He didn't say against whom, but I have a pretty good guess that Gabrielle Giffords was one of the targets.
So... of course this is Sarah Palin's fault.
Did you know when Sarah Palin resigned the governorship she immediately assumed the position of Acting Sheriff of Pima County? It's true; it's right there in the Alaska Constitution. If you resign your post as governor you immediately become sheriff of an Arizona County.
Bad Sarah. Very bad Sarah.
[DU Mode] Well I have it on very good authority (from my yoga master's next door neighbor's contact at the local canabis dispensery) that Jared Loughner is the love child of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck (yes, that Glenn Beck). She said that there is video tape of Sarah Palin dropping Loughner off at the entrance the Safeway parking lot shortly before the shooting occured. Viewed on the back of her car (a gas guzzling SUV) was a bumper sticker that said "Death to all Democrats". [/DU mode]
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Suspect in Giffords shooting smirks in court appearance
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/10/20110110gabrielle-giffords-suspect-loughner-court-appearance-brk10-ON.html
Copied from the abovelink....the next moonbat to explode????
The event drew a lone protester, George Clifton, 58, of Scottsdale, who carried a sign saying, "I stand with all immigrants." Clifton also chanted slogans.
While calling out that Saturday's events were a tragedy, he questioned why the American people were not upset over servicemen's deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Well said! Welcome! This article is about the possibility that Loughner could walk. Hopefully, his ass gets fried for it.
Could Jared Loughner Escape a Prison Sentence?
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/could-jared-loughner-escape-a-prison-sentence/
I recall that Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer were insane. Also, they were psychopaths.
Not so, as I recall becoming very upset when 8-10 Doctors that had interviewed Jeffery Dahmer stated on the stand the he was not in fact insane. Not by the legal meaning of the word.
Gave me the Willey's as to this day if Jeffery's acts were that of a sane person, what the hell are the acts of an insane person.??
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Not so, as I recall becoming very upset when 8-10 Doctors that had interviewed Jeffery Dahmer stated on the stand the he was not in fact insane. Not by the legal meaning of the word.
Gave me the Willey's as to this day if Jeffery's acts were that of a sane person, what the hell are the acts of an insane person.??
I am not saying that Dahmer was insane. It is what I recall reading in books about serial killers and saying what I recall. Insanity is a legal and clinical term.
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(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg) His mug shot
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(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg) His mug shot
He's got crazy eyes.
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He's got crazy eyes.
That's what I am thinking too. Looks like a psychopath. I see evil in him.
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(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg) His mug shot
Unfortunately it has "moonbat crazy" stamped all over it.
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Unfortunately it has "moonbat crazy" stamped all over it.
Actually, I believe it has "Auschwitz Prison Guard" stamped all over it.
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(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg) His mug shot
He looks like none of the other pictures I've seen of him. He looks friggen crazy.
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Did he shave his head, or was it shaved for him?
He looks like a cross between deranged Uncle Fester, and WWE's Kane:(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2-7AdSkZA7I/Rf2SsaF6LiI/AAAAAAAABdQ/toHo7QiM420/s400/kane4wd.jpg)
My apologies to Glenn Jacobs, but damn...
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Father Of 9 Year Old Murder Victim In Tucson Does Not Want Restrictions Of Freedoms!
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj47lB1a-0Y[/youtube]
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http://www.facebook.com/update_security_info.php?wizard=1#!/album.php?fbid=481593442410&id=57082507410&aid=261730
Figured you guys might want to see this. I highly recommend "Liking" Vicki McKenna. :-)
Edit: There's even a DU reference in that topic... Wow.
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http://www.facebook.com/update_security_info.php?wizard=1#!/album.php?fbid=481593442410&id=57082507410&aid=261730
Figured you guys might want to see this. I highly recommend "Liking" Vicki McKenna. :-)
Edit: There's even a DU reference in that topic... Wow.
Those moonbats are loco!
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Yep, and the beast will continue to bite until somehow, the head is cut off.
Sever the head, and the beast dies...
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(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg) His mug shot
He doesn't even look 22. More like in his 40's.
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He doesn't even look 22. More like in his 40's.
He looks a little like Michael Chiklis.
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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message?page=1
That was it. But later in the day, when Tierney first heard about the Tucson massacre, he had a sickening feeling: "They hadn't released the name, but I said, 'Holy shit, I think it's Jared that did it.'" Tierney tells Mother Jones in an exclusive interview that Loughner held a years-long grudge against Giffords and had repeatedly derided her as a "fake." Loughner's animus toward Giffords intensified after he attended one of her campaign events and she did not, in his view, sufficiently answer a question he had posed, Tierney says. He also describes Loughner as being obsessed with "lucid dreaming"—that is, the idea that conscious dreams are an alternative reality that a person can inhabit and control—and says Loughner became "more interested in this world than our reality." Tierney adds, "I saw his dream journal once. That's the golden piece of evidence. You want to know what goes on in Jared Loughner's mind, there's a dream journal that will tell you everything."
Tierney, who's also 22, recalls Loughner complaining about a Giffords event he attended during that period. He's unsure whether it was the same one mentioned in the charges—Loughner "might have gone to some other rallies," he says—but Tierney notes it was a significant moment for Loughner: "He told me that she opened up the floor for questions and he asked a question. The question was, 'What is government if words have no meaning?'"
As Loughner and Tierney grew closer, Tierney got used to spending the first ten minutes or so of every day together arguing with Loughner's "nihilist" view of the world. "By the time he was 19 or 20, he was really fascinated with semantics and how the world is really nothing—illusion," Tierney says.
Clearly a disturbed individual.
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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message?page=1
Clearly a disturbed individual.
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Both of 'em....birds of a feather and all that.
I wonder if that Tierney is the same fellow CBS News interviewed. If so, he had long fire engine red hair and the "punk" attire.
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Both of 'em....birds of a feather and all that.
I wonder if that Tierney is the same fellow CBS News interviewed. If so, he had long fire engine red hair and the "punk" attire.
From the same article.
Tierney believes that Loughner was very interested in pushing people's buttons—and that may have been why he listed Hitler's Mein Kampf as one of his favorite books on his YouTube page. (Loughner's mom is Jewish, according to Tierney.) Loughner sometimes approached strangers and would say "weird" things, Tierney recalls. "He would do it because he thought people were below him and he knew they wouldn't know what he was talking about."
Loughner's mother is Jewish, yet he he like Mein Kempf. Sounds like a self-hating Jew to me.
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This asshole now has a very good lawyer, the trial will take weeks to get underway, but he should still be found guilty. Now, since ObeyWon has said that terrorists , if tried and found not guilty will still be held in prison, can't we do the same for this POS?
He's guilty, there were tons of eyewitnesses,why is a trial even needed?
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This asshole now has a very good lawyer, the trial will take weeks to get underway, but he should still be found guilty. Now, since ObeyWon has said that terrorists , if tried and found not guilty will still be held in prison, can't we do the same for this POS?
He's guilty, there were tons of eyewitnesses,why is a trial even needed?
thundley, dude, you know better than that. He's entitled to due process under the law and he's innocent till proven guilty. You know this stuff.
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thundley, dude, you know better than that. He's entitled to due process under the law and he's innocent till proven guilty. You know this stuff.
Granted, he has a right to a trial, but that verdict should only have one of two foregone conclusions. Guilty, or not guilty by reason of insanity. Either way he should be locked up for life, if it is the latter or quickly put to death if the former. Appeals should be non-existent in the case.
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My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
ShareNew 0by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST
EDIT NOTE: I initially deleted this diary out of sensitivity to the victims of Saturday's Tucson shooting, including my Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords, who is now courageously fighting for her life at UMC. I undeleted because this has been twisted and distorted by not only the right wing blogs, but also the mainstream media as an example of a vitriolic statement from the progressives that is somehow the equal of what Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, and other far-right stokers of vitriol, anger, and hatred have said and written. Which I believe can and does influence people, especially the already unstable to carry out acts of violence...perhaps even the exact shooting in Tucson on Saturday.
I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases. When Arizona re-districted in 2002, a seat opened up and she was right smack in the middle of it. So was I because I live in Oro Valley, Arizona, which is at the heart of that - then - new CD. I was one of several people to talk her into running and pledging complete loyalty and pledging to raise as much money as possible for her.
BoyBlue's diary :: ::
She ended up running for the first time against a fellow AZ House member, Randy Graf who was a rightwing whacko who advocated guns in bars and was the "Russell Pearce before Russell Pearce" vis-a-vis border issues. With a LOT of hard work and plenty of money, Gabby won. Easier than thought, too. I never like to throw money in people's faces, but i have given Gabrielle Giffords THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars in both good times and bad times for me financially.
Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.
Anyway, after months of physical and mental rehab, I got back into the political scene and started working for Gabby once again. I raised over $100,000 for her and maxed her out myself out of my severance, even though i still don't have work and could not qualify for state aid because of my severance.
She wins her re-election and told me she was still a supporter of Speaker Pelosi at her victory party. We talked about how Nancy Pelosi was a successful woman and accomplished oh so much in just four years as Speaker.
Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question: I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS shit???
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won't lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi!-And-is-now-DEAD-to-me!
This was brought back up if anyone wants to see it. Just had the urge to go back there for some reason. Is it me, or does it seem a bit different? Aside from the top bolded edit, I mean.
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Holy smokes! It wasn't Rush's fault. It was George Noory's.
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Arizona Suspect Could Face Death for Attack
Associated Press (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/11/arizona-suspect-face-death-rampage/)
The idiots at the AP manage to state the obvious.
I honestly hope an insanity defense for this loser is dropped post haste. He needs to disappear into a 6x6 hole in the ground.
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The idiots at the AP manage to state the obvious.
I honestly hope an insanity defense for this loser is dropped post haste. He needs to disappear into a 6x6 hole in the ground.
The defense will probably try to use it, but the legal term of insanity is vastly different from the medical term. Under the legal term, I don't think he'll qualify for it.
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The defense will probably try to use it, but the legal term of insanity is vastly different from the medical term. Under the legal term, I don't think he'll qualify for it.
Well, he's being tried initially in federal court where that legal definition (whatever it is) will play out - and I can't help but think his entire defense will be predicated on the level of his "sanity" - and then Arizona will get their shot at him.
God only knows what else, but charges are being drafted as we speak.
This whacko is in some serious shit.
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EDIT NOTE: I initially deleted this diary out of sensitivity to the victims of Saturday's Tucson shooting, including my Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords, who is now courageously fighting for her life at UMC. I undeleted because this has been twisted and distorted by not only the right wing blogs, but also the mainstream media as an example of a vitriolic statement from the progressives that is somehow the equal of what Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, and other far-right stokers of vitriol, anger, and hatred have said and written. Which I believe can and does influence people, especially the already unstable to carry out acts of violence...perhaps even the exact shooting in Tucson on Saturday.
Keep digging, Kos fags, keep digging....
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My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
ShareNew 0by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST
EDIT NOTE: I initially deleted this diary out of sensitivity to the victims of Saturday's Tucson shooting, including my Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords, who is now courageously fighting for her life at UMC. I undeleted because this has been twisted and distorted by not only the right wing blogs, but also the mainstream media as an example of a vitriolic statement from the progressives that is somehow the equal of what Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, and other far-right stokers of vitriol, anger, and hatred have said and written. Which I believe can and does influence people, especially the already unstable to carry out acts of violence...perhaps even the exact shooting in Tucson on Saturday.
I see BoyBlue has put on his tap dancing shoes. In addition to Rush, Beck and Palin, he has dragged Sharron Angle into the mud too. While you are at it BB, why not bring up every Republican candidate in last November's election to round out your list of "far-right stokers of vitriol anger"...
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http://volokh.com/2011/01/10/jared-loughners-anti-war-views/
Looks like this guy believed in GUARENTEED food, clothing, healthcare for all.
Wonder which side of the political spectrum that train of thought comes from??? :whatever:
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He doesn't even look 22. More like in his 40's.
Drugs will do that to you.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2py858p.jpg)
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Sharron Angle had something to do with this now?
Wow. I should contact her and let her know she has blood on her hands. ::)
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Sharron Angle had something to do with this now?
Wow. I should contact her and let her know she has blood on her hands. ::)
Yeah, her "2nd Amendment Option" or something like that
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Yeah, her "2nd Amendment Option" or something like that
Megyn Kelly just had some Dem from Califruitopia complaining about Angle and how that language needs to be stopped. She brought up several of Obama's quotes and he just totally ignored them. :censored: asswipes.
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Megyn Kelly just had some Dem from Califruitopia complaining about Angle and how that language needs to be stopped. She brought up several of Obama's quotes and he just totally ignored them. :censored: asswipes.
I heard that. I was spitting fire every time he opened his mouth!!
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Yeah, her "2nd Amendment Option" or something like that
What second amendment option?
Is that the option where we, as citizens, have an option to carry a gun or not for protection?
I'm not quite sure what other option she is/was talking about and I followed her fairly closely during her race against Reid.
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^ Not even too sure what the left is talking about when they use that phrase unless it's what you just mentioned. It's just one of their huge nonsequitar talking points for this issue.
Through 24 pages of this...I have realized something. This is bigger than I thought. I mentioned that there was going to be fear there after a Federal Judge was killed, and a Congresswoman was attempted murdered. I mentioned there would be lashing out. However, I think I underestimated how absolutely HUGE it was going to be. I looked at this issue from the scope of a rifle instead of the microscope. I didn't see it all, I don't think.
Emersing myself in this issue, taking it all in, I think that there is real potential for riots such as in '68. Riots such as the Watts riots. NONE of us want that, but I think the whole of America needs to be very nervous.
I watched Beck today. He is DEAD ON with the freedom of speech argument. His jokes were meant to be funny, but I didn't laugh. They were meant also to be truthful. I understood them. There is a real danger here of the revocation of weapons, freedom of speech, and other rights in general if something is not done! This is not a call to arms, or anything of the sort. This is merely an observation. I was worried before about getting a job, getting BACK out on my own, etc. Now...I have those worries, PLUS loss of freedom worries, and violence...general violence towards one another.
What in the blue **** is going on in this country?!?
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I and others have been saying that there might be some kind of civil war coming and the left seems bent on starting one.
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Well the MOST blood leftists have on their hands in one generation I can think of is Mao. What I think may happen just around the bend will just ADD to all the blood on their disgusting hands.
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^ Not even too sure what the left is talking about when they use that phrase unless it's what you just mentioned. It's just one of their huge nonsequitar talking points for this issue.
Through 24 pages of this...I have realized something. This is bigger than I thought. I mentioned that there was going to be fear there after a Federal Judge was killed, and a Congresswoman was attempted murdered. I mentioned there would be lashing out. However, I think I underestimated how absolutely HUGE it was going to be. I looked at this issue from the scope of a rifle instead of the microscope. I didn't see it all, I don't think.
Emersing myself in this issue, taking it all in, I think that there is real potential for riots such as in '68. Riots such as the Watts riots. NONE of us want that, but I think the whole of America needs to be very nervous.
I watched Beck today. He is DEAD ON with the freedom of speech argument. His jokes were meant to be funny, but I didn't laugh. They were meant also to be truthful. I understood them. There is a real danger here of the revocation of weapons, freedom of speech, and other rights in general if something is not done! This is not a call to arms, or anything of the sort. This is merely an observation. I was worried before about getting a job, getting BACK out on my own, etc. Now...I have those worries, PLUS loss of freedom worries, and violence...general violence towards one another.
What in the blue **** is going on in this country?!?
People are waking up to the left's efforts to fundamentally transform the country. The collectivists are determined to force their 'utopian' society upon us and this tragedy presents a big opportunity. The flames of hatred are being fanned by the left, no doubt out of hope that more violence will occur: from the top down, the bottom up, and inside out.
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What second amendment option?
Is that the option where we, as citizens, have an option to carry a gun or not for protection?
I'm not quite sure what other option she is/was talking about and I followed her fairly closely during her race against Reid.
Here ya go Jess.
1. "I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010
Just google Sharon Angle stupid quotes :whistling:
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^ Not even too sure what the left is talking about when they use that phrase unless it's what you just mentioned. It's just one of their huge nonsequitar talking points for this issue.
Through 24 pages of this...I have realized something. This is bigger than I thought. I mentioned that there was going to be fear there after a Federal Judge was killed, and a Congresswoman was attempted murdered. I mentioned there would be lashing out. However, I think I underestimated how absolutely HUGE it was going to be. I looked at this issue from the scope of a rifle instead of the microscope. I didn't see it all, I don't think.
Emersing myself in this issue, taking it all in, I think that there is real potential for riots such as in '68. Riots such as the Watts riots. NONE of us want that, but I think the whole of America needs to be very nervous.
I watched Beck today. He is DEAD ON with the freedom of speech argument. His jokes were meant to be funny, but I didn't laugh. They were meant also to be truthful. I understood them. There is a real danger here of the revocation of weapons, freedom of speech, and other rights in general if something is not done! This is not a call to arms, or anything of the sort. This is merely an observation. I was worried before about getting a job, getting BACK out on my own, etc. Now...I have those worries, PLUS loss of freedom worries, and violence...general violence towards one another.
What in the blue **** is going on in this country?!?
You have to keep in mind Rev that the left is always looking for the "big one".
By that I mean a single event or even thought that will instantly and automatically provide the keys to the safe for them.
Global warming was going to be the big one...the end of civilization as we know it so we HAD to become socialists.
Obama being elected with that Congress was the big one...free healthcare and wealth redistribution were finally around the corner.
This was going to be another big one...conservative voices silenced overnight and conservatives marginalized.
They had success with Katrina to a degree but for the most part it never works out because there are still too many thinking people in the country and see through the nonsense.
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Here ya go Jess.
1. "I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010
Just google Sharon Angle stupid quotes :whistling:
Okay, so I can see if someone thinks Angle was SAYING we should "take Reid out", but she wanted us to VOTE him out. I don't know. I see nothing wrong with what she said. The second amendment option is always on me... in case someone wants to steal my stuff or something.
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Postings of a Troubled Mind
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791904576075851892478080.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
Some postings he made from the article.
Even in a setting that includes the raw and often raunchy thoughts of young men, Mr. Loughner's postings were startling. They show an obsession with language, a hatred of the educational system and aggression—all of which later became themes of videos posted by Mr. Loughner on YouTube in the months before the shooting. In the forum posts, Mr. Loughner never mentions any political views explicitly, nor does he name any political figures.
On April 24, Mr. Loughner titled a new online thread: "Would you hit a Handy Cap Child/ Adult?" He wrote: "This is a very interesting question….There are mental retarded children. They're possessing teachers that are typing for money. This will never stop….The drug addicts need to be weeded out to be more intelligent. The Principle of this is that them c— educators need to stop being pigs."
He sure hates handicapped people.
Later that day, he posted a rant titled "Why Rape," which said women in college enjoyed being raped. "There are Rape victims that are under the influence of a substance. The drinking is leading them to rape. The loneliness will bring you to depression. Being alone for a very long time will inevitably lead you to rape."
Sounds like a pervert to me. He clearly has no problems with rape. Sounds like Michael Crook to me.
Jared Loughner’s friend says suspect ‘Did not watch TV … disliked the news’
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jared-loughners-friend-says-suspect-did-not-watch-tv-disliked-the-news_b48040
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Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-arizona-shooting-girlfriend-20110113,0,6891504.story
It is obvious he changed after high school and for the worse.
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Lone Wolf Killers: It's About Fame, Not Politics
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/lone-wolf-killers-fame-politics/story?id=12583783
"If we feel that civility in public discourse is going to take away mass shootings we are mistaken," said Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist at New York University and an ABC News consultant. "Because the one common threat in mass shooting is, what does the shooter get out of it? And the shooter recognizes that if you assassinate a political figure you will be notorious."
"Most of them are very socially uncomfortable," said Brad Garrett, a former FBI profiler and special agent, "and so as a result they tend to withdraw and become more and more isolated and that is the reason I think we call them lone wolves because it's like they can't work in the pack, in other words they can't work in society."
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Lone Wolf Killers: It's About Fame, Not Politics
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/lone-wolf-killers-fame-politics/story?id=12583783
If it were about politics and not fame, he would have made more of an attempt to ensure that his primary target was reached, and not just kill indiscriminately.
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If it were about politics and not fame, he would have made more of an attempt to ensure that his primary target was reached, and not just kill indiscriminately.
It's pretty clear that the prosecutors are going to charge him with Murder One, citing his having planned the attack and thus being mentally capable enough to do that.
Actually executing the attack, however, at least a couple of differing points could be argued - one, that he was so whacked out, so mentally ill that indiscriminate shooting is all he could manage, or two, that his evident inexperience with firearms and the "heat of the moment" prompted him to spray his fire rather than target one individual.
about the time he dropped his mag to reload, that's when a couple of guys jumped him or hit him with a chair. Loughner fell to the ground next to a woman who was playing dead and she saw that Loughner had a full magazine in his hand, but dropped it during the fall. She snagged it away from him and that was the end of the attack.
I don't know if he had already reloaded, though. With as many as 19 being struck by bullets, I guess he would've had to......
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I believe he was using an extended mag, I have heard a 30-rounder but I put no deep faith in the strict accuracy of anything published or broadcast so far.
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I believe he was using an extended mag, I have heard a 30-rounder but I put no deep faith in the strict accuracy of anything published or broadcast so far.
I bet Cheaper Than Dirt or AIM has them... I vaugely remember seeing them in the CTD catalog a while back. I doubt the work filter here would allow me to take a peek but I'm almost positive they sell them.
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Incident Reports Related to Alleged Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner Released By Sheriff
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12/pima-county-sheriffs-department-releases-loughner-records/
in 2008, Loughner reported being a victim of identity theft on Oct. 3 after finding an online profile on PeekYou.com that included a picture of himself and other details that were inaccurate, according to the report.
oh so he is a victim ,,,what a crock
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Incident Reports Related to Alleged Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner Released By Sheriff
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12/pima-county-sheriffs-department-releases-loughner-records/
oh so he is a victim ,,,what a crock
I'm waiting for the news to come out that he was abused by one or both of his parents, and was the target of bullies at school. That will garner him lots of sympathy at DU.
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But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?
These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.
There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.
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But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?
These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.
There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.
He's go a guardian angel.
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But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?
These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.
There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.
I think so too. Most of them are complaints filed by Randy Loughner. One of them was reported as a fire, which turned out to be a barbecue.
The alcohol poisoning he got was in May of 2006 and that happened when he was in high school. It was by himself after his father yelled at him.
Looks like the Loughners have had complaints lodged against them as well.
Nothing on the graffiti.
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But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?
These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.
There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.
The sherriffs had plenty of time to erase anything like that and I wouldn't put it past him to have done it.
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Fox News had reported that at least 4 of 10 calls to the Loughner house were about Jared. What were the others about?
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As portrait of Jared Loughner sharpens, 'vitriol' blame fades
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0112/As-portrait-of-Jared-Loughner-sharpens-vitriol-blame-fades
At this point, then, the left's initial eagerness to link the shooting to political anger on the right could backfire, says Charles Franklin, a pollster and political scientst at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
To be sure, Sheriff Dupnik put the issue on the national plate with his comments, and given that that the shooting appears to be a political assassination attempt in a politically rancorous border district, the debate on political tone was, in many ways, inevitable.
But critics point out that the nation largely refrained from linking Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan – the suspect in the 2009 Fort Hood shootings – with terrorism.
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Fox News had reported that at least 4 of 10 calls to the Loughner house were about Jared. What were the others about?
That's what I want to know. One of them was he was drunk at school.
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Loughner was stopped by police on morning of shooting.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110112/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot
The officer let him off on a warning when he ran a red light.
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Loughner was stopped by police on morning of shooting.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110112/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot
The officer let him off on a warning when he ran a red light.
It would suck to be that cop. He must be going through some awful self recriminations.
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It would suck to be that cop. He must be going through some awful self recriminations.
I know, but what else could he have done?
He couldn't take him to jail over a red light infraction. But for that cop to know he had Loughner less than a foot away from him? Sucks. Too bad he couldn't predict the future.
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I know, but what else could he have done?
He couldn't take him to jail over a red light infraction. But for that cop to know he had Loughner less than a foot away from him? Sucks. Too bad he couldn't predict the future.
Poor guy. I can't even imagine how bad he must feel.
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Poor guy. I can't even imagine how bad he must feel.
I know. It is not his fault. The fault lies SQUARELY on Jared Loughner.
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I know. It is not his fault. The fault lies SQUARELY on Jared Loughner.
I agree with you 100%, but I still bet he feels bad. Who wouldn't?
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I agree with you 100%, but I still bet he feels bad. Who wouldn't?
Oh absolutely. If I was him, I too would feel guilty. He should take no blame.
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(http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jumbotron.jpg)
Holy crap! Has anyone seen this yet? It was in fact, just brought to my attention. If I were one in attendance, I would not have complied. Simple as that.
Disgusting.
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It would suck to be that cop. He must be going through some awful self recriminations.
How would you like to be the state trooper who stopped one of the 9-11 terrorists on I-95 the day before? I know him. He had no idea just who he had on that traffic stop. They found his speeding ticket in the glove compartment of his rental car at the airport parking lot.
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How would you like to be the state trooper who stopped one of the 9-11 terrorists on I-95 the day before? I know him. He had no idea just who he had on that traffic stop. They found his speeding ticket in the glove compartment of his rental car at the airport parking lot.
I think there was a security gate agent at one of the airports that had a similar experience. I don't remember his name, but I do recall hearing his story.
I don't envy either of them.
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I think there was a security gate agent at one of the airports that had a similar experience. I don't remember his name, but I do recall hearing his story.
I don't envy either of them.
The trooper was stationed at my barrack, then got transferred to the barrack on I-95. He was a K-9 trooper with a drug dog. He made the stop and ran the guy through NCIC and nothing appeared so he wrote him and let him go. The guy had a Virginia driver's license. I watched the video from his in car camera.
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How would you like to be the state trooper who stopped one of the 9-11 terrorists on I-95 the day before? I know him. He had no idea just who he had on that traffic stop. They found his speeding ticket in the glove compartment of his rental car at the airport parking lot.
I remember that story.....
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What is that a photo of Rev?
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What is that a photo of Rev?
I believe that's a photo of the Jumbotron in the arena/auditorium during the memorial ceremony (complete with applause sign).
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:argh:
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I believe that's a photo of the Jumbotron in the arena/auditorium during the memorial ceremony (complete with applause sign).
Is that an applause sign for the audience to applause or is it closed captioning the speech? When closed captioning is done on tv...applause, laughter, door bell ringing, car horn honking - something occurring during a lapse in speaking...is all bracketed like that.
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Is that an applause sign for the audience to applause or is it closed captioning the speech? When closed captioning is done on tv...applause, laughter, door bell ringing, car horn honking - something occurring during a lapse in speaking...is all bracketed like that.
I never did find out.
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What an embarrassment. :banghead:
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Report: Suspect Did Research Before Ariz. Shootings
Associated Press (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/26/report-suspect-did-research-ariz-shootings/)
Can we just go ahead and kill this guy now? :mad:
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Can we just go ahead and kill this guy now? :mad:
The amount and type of research he did proves to me that he is NOT insane/crazy/mentally ill.
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What is that a photo of Rev?
It could be CC for the hearing impaired, but I'm not certain at all about that. I think it was trying to get the citizens of AZ to applaud Obumble.
Kind of ticks me off too.