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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #275 on: January 09, 2011, 08:35:01 PM »
I saw it live but I found it on the Blaze. I haven't watched it again because they are seriously making me sick. I had to change the channel to 48 hours because I couldn't stand it any longer.

Here is the link: LINK

Thanks, I just found it on youtube and the comments are ignorant!
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #276 on: January 09, 2011, 09:01:35 PM »
This is interesting, I just read this in the comments section at Politico:

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We should all take a deep breath and stop the political blame game. This man was really disturbed and I think that what set him off was not the politics of the day but a simple misspelling of his name by one of the Congresswoman's staffers. Sadly that was probably all it took to set him off. He talks about grammer and illiteracy throughout all of his postings and he calls his congressional district illiterate.
It is trully appalling that this young punk was able to kill and injure so many people yesterday but the most disturbing part of this whole thing was that he was probably set off by a misspelling of his name and not by a toxic political environment.
so I ask this, isn't the staffer who sent that thank you letter to loughner with his name misspelled really the one to blame for this massace?
or shall we blame the person responsible?

It could very well be that and over a misspelling of his last name. I saw his video and rails against illiteracy. Sounds like Loughner is psychotic.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #277 on: January 09, 2011, 09:02:22 PM »
Thanks, I just found it on youtube and the comments are ignorant!

YouTube is full of nutjobs.  :mental:
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #278 on: January 09, 2011, 09:04:47 PM »


It could very well be that and over a misspelling of his last name. Sounds like Loughner is clearly psychotic.

See it is the tea baggers fault they misspell signs all the time. [/dummy mode]
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #279 on: January 09, 2011, 09:20:58 PM »
Once again it looks more like a left winger ****ing up everything and anyone . There is some serious crazy going on with that guy and no one stopped him till 19 people get shot.
My thoughts and prayers, like every other decent person's, are focused on the survivors and family members and those who lost their lives to a madman. 
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #280 on: January 09, 2011, 09:25:16 PM »
If you recall the Times square almost bomber was described by, Bloomberg I believe it was, as a tea party guy mad about the health care bill.
Yet when the FT Hood shooting occurred, Barry told us not to jump to any conclusions.



Makes them very hypocritical right there. Obama always jumps to conclusions.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #281 on: January 09, 2011, 09:26:38 PM »
Once again it looks more like a left winger ****ing up everything and anyone . There is some serious crazy going on with that guy and no one stopped him till 19 people get shot.

The sad fact is many assassins and mass murderers like Jared Loughner showed warning signs and it was too late to stop them.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #282 on: January 09, 2011, 09:35:19 PM »
Here's the interview here:

[youtube=425,350]wB5NgR8j9a4[/youtube]

What a pompous ass!  Blowhard moves like this one are directly leading to vitriol he whines about.  Nobody on our side pined for, suggested, or manipulated anyone into doing this.  For christ's sake, if the graphic on Palin's website were pushpins this doofus would be accusing Palin of trying to get everyone stabbed. 
 

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #283 on: January 09, 2011, 09:41:06 PM »
Jared Loughner Parents Knew He Had Mental Health Issues
http://news.lalate.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-parents-knew-he-had-mental-health-issues/

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LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Jared Loughner’s parents were put on alert by Pima Community College of their son’s mental health issues. Jared Loughner’s parents, Amy and Randy Loughner, received a letter from Pima Community College or around October 7, 2010 of their son’s suspension. In writing the Loughner parents, Pima advised them that their son needed mental health evaluation, promptly.

It is obvious he is mentally ill.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #284 on: January 09, 2011, 09:45:51 PM »
Jared Loughner Parents Knew He Had Mental Health Issues
http://news.lalate.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-parents-knew-he-had-mental-health-issues/

It is obvious he is mentally ill.

Well, we've been saying for years now that liberalism is a mental disorder.  This is what happens when it is left untreated.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #285 on: January 09, 2011, 09:47:32 PM »
This is interesting, I just read this in the comments section at Politico:


I thought that's what set Mark David Chapman off.  Lennon's autograph wasn't grandiose enough or scribbled or something like that.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #286 on: January 09, 2011, 09:48:54 PM »
I thought that's what set Mark David Chapman off.  Lennon's autograph wasn't grandiose enough or scribbled or something like that.

Some people's ego are just too big for their own good. They are insecure. Loughner thought Gifford was stupid. Could very well be that.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #287 on: January 09, 2011, 09:50:53 PM »
Speaking  of YouTube and it's nut jobs, somebody has either hacked Giffords' YouTube page or is playing a sick joke.

http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2

Note the lower left corner of subscriptions. One is for Jared Loughner's YouTube page and one to Rep Ike Skelton's (MO) YouTube page. Furthermore, Giffords' age is wrong. It shows last logged in 21 hours ago, which she would have been in the hospital, just out of surgery. It's likely that a staffer is maintaining her page, but one would think that they'd get her age right or at  least close.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #288 on: January 09, 2011, 09:55:45 PM »
Speaking  of YouTube and it's nut jobs, somebody has either hacked Giffords' YouTube page or is playing a sick joke.

http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2

Note the lower left corner of subscriptions. One is for Jared Loughner's YouTube page and one to Rep Ike Skelton's (MO) YouTube page. Furthermore, Giffords' age is wrong. It shows last logged in 21 hours ago, which she would have been in the hospital, just out of surgery. It's likely that a staffer is maintaining her page, but one would think that they'd get her age right or at  least close.

I think it is a sick joke since it has giffords2 as the name. I would think Gifford would have no numbers. I have seen people setup fake YouTube accounts to troll in emotionally charged topics. One that came to mind was someone would always use the name Sioux and create many accounts. That person would use pictures of girls.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #289 on: January 09, 2011, 09:57:47 PM »
Exclusive: Jared Loughner Radically Changed Before Alleged Shooting, Friend Says
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-suspected-gabrielle-giffords-shooter-school/story?id=12575278

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"One day [Loughner] started making comments about terrorism and laughing about killing the baby," classmate Don Coorough told ABC News, referring to a discussion about abortions. "The rest of us were looking at him in shock ... I thought this young man was troubled."

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"A girl had written a poem about an abortion. It was very emotional and she was teary eyed and he said something about strapping a bomb to the fetus and making a baby bomber," Ali said.

He wrote poems.
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"Looking around, the cute women are catching my eye, probably waiting for their hot boyfriends wandering in the locker room," one poem, entitled Meat Head, reads. "Confused look on my face of no idea what to do, deciding to copy other men's routines..."

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In another poem entitled "Dead as a dodo.", Loughn describes a serene, but somber scene at a cemetery. "The full moon slowly setting for the sun is rising. At the local cemetery there is weeping. The dodo is finally deing [sic]," it reads.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #290 on: January 10, 2011, 02:36:27 AM »
I'm very sad for all the victims and their families.

And I'm angry, angry at politicians making this political, angry at the media for spinning this story.

And I'm fearful that this guy is going to walk. Temporary insanity, ends up doing a few years in an institution and walking the streets when he's 'cured'.

And all the bleeding heart liberals will be crying for him when that day comes. Aww, he said he's sorry and he promises to take his meds. He's no longer a threat, (as long as he remembers to take his happy pills), and it will be an injustice to keep him locked up.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #291 on: January 10, 2011, 08:29:25 AM »
If it goes on insanity, which looks to be a highly-probable defense which the lawyer will pursue even if Loughner doesn't want to (Which is typical of true nut case perps, since they don't agree they're nuts), I don't think the word 'Temporary' is going to be involved.  All the indications are the guy is a raving loon.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #292 on: January 10, 2011, 08:39:38 AM »
This source says that Loughner wasn't considered for military service because he failed a drug screen.

He's a nutcase, he's a druggie, and he's a murderer.

Damn. Just damn.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #293 on: January 10, 2011, 08:51:33 AM »
This source says that Loughner wasn't considered for military service because he failed a drug screen.

He's a nutcase, he's a druggie, and he's a murderer.

Damn. Just damn.

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Love to see who released that, because that's Privacy Act information.

Besides, even though they piss test at MEPS, one can still DEP in but are DEP-discharged if the test comes back hot.  Sounds like this kid didn't even make it into DEP.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #294 on: January 10, 2011, 08:56:35 AM »
Love to see who released that, because that's Privacy Act information.

Besides, even though they piss test at MEPS, one can still DEP in but are DEP-discharged if the test comes back hot.  Sounds like this kid didn't even make it into DEP.

Privacy Act is what the Army quoted when they said they couldn't release that information initially - a day or two ago.

Apparently times have changed, or a bit of money changed hands. Who knows?
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #295 on: January 10, 2011, 09:03:06 AM »
Privacy Act is what the Army quoted when they said they couldn't release that information initially - a day or two ago.

Apparently times have changed, or a bit of money changed hands. Who knows?

Or their "military source" is some dumbshit E-2 who hasn't the first clue of what the Privacy Act is for.  We know how the MSM plays that game.

If they were an E-4, they'd call it a "highly placed source."
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #296 on: January 10, 2011, 10:26:05 AM »
Well, in some situations, an E4 would know more than anyone else, just sayin'.

And his drug-screening failure could mean bombing an interview as well as the local police arrest record, either in addition to or instead of the piss test...it may not even have gotten as far as a piss test. 
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #297 on: January 10, 2011, 10:31:59 AM »
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Federal authorities filed murder charges Sunday against 22-year-old Jared Loughner, as new evidence suggested the alleged gunman in Saturday's rampage had fixated on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) while his mental health deteriorated.

Loughner will make his first appearance in an Arizona courtroom Monday at 2 p.m. Mountain time (4 p.m. in Washington). The Arizona's public defender's office has asked that he be represented by Judy Clarke, the San Diego attorney who helped defend Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Susan Smith, a South Carolina woman who drowned her two sons in 1994, the Associated Press reported.

Authorities said Sunday that he appeared to have acted alone, without ties to anti-government or hate groups. A second "person of interest" seen with him near the shooting scene turned out to be the cabdriver who had dropped him off. Authorities said the man had no connection to the shootings.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #298 on: January 10, 2011, 02:00:48 PM »
Gabrielle Giffords shooting: Frightening, twisted shrine in Arizona killer Jared Lee Loughner's yard



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A sinister shrine reveals a chilling occult dimension in the mind of the deranged gunman accused of shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.

Hidden within a camouflage tent behind Jared Lee Loughner's home sits an alarming altar with a skull sitting atop a pot filled with shriveled oranges.

A row of ceremonial candles and a bag of potting soil lay nearby, photos reveal.

Experts on Sunday said the elements are featured in the ceremonies of a number of occult groups.


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #299 on: January 10, 2011, 02:02:17 PM »
I'm very sad for all the victims and their families.

And I'm angry, angry at politicians making this political, angry at the media for spinning this story.

And I'm fearful that this guy is going to walk. Temporary insanity, ends up doing a few years in an institution and walking the streets when he's 'cured'.

And all the bleeding heart liberals will be crying for him when that day comes. Aww, he said he's sorry and he promises to take his meds. He's no longer a threat, (as long as he remembers to take his happy pills), and it will be an injustice to keep him locked up.

Anyone want to bet with me? I'm giving even odds.



Well said! Welcome! This article is about the possibility that Loughner could walk. Hopefully, his ass gets fried for it.

Could Jared Loughner Escape a Prison Sentence?
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/could-jared-loughner-escape-a-prison-sentence/

I recall that Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer were insane. Also, they were psychopaths.
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