Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

[Thor]

Sharron Angle had something to do with this now? 

Wow.  I should contact her and let her know she has blood on her hands. 

Yeah, her "2nd Amendment Option" or something like that

[thundley4]

Yeah, her "2nd Amendment Option" or something like that

Megyn Kelly just had some Dem from Califruitopia complaining about Angle and how that language needs to be stopped. She brought up several of Obama's quotes and he just totally ignored them.  asswipes.

[Thor]

Megyn Kelly just had some Dem from Califruitopia complaining about Angle and how that language needs to be stopped. She brought up several of Obama's quotes and he just totally ignored them.  asswipes.

I heard that. I was spitting fire every time he opened his mouth!!

[Evil_Conservative]

Yeah, her "2nd Amendment Option" or something like that

What second amendment option? 

Is that the option where we, as citizens, have an option to carry a gun or not for protection?

I'm not quite sure what other option she is/was talking about and I followed her fairly closely during her race against Reid.

[Revolution]

^ Not even too sure what the left is talking about when they use that phrase unless it's what you just mentioned. It's just one of their huge nonsequitar talking points for this issue.


Through 24 pages of this...I have realized something. This is bigger than I thought. I mentioned that there was going to be fear there after a Federal Judge was killed, and a Congresswoman was attempted murdered. I mentioned there would be lashing out. However, I think I underestimated how absolutely HUGE it was going to be. I looked at this issue from the scope of a rifle instead of the microscope. I didn't see it all, I don't think.

Emersing myself in this issue, taking it all in, I think that there is real potential for riots such as in '68. Riots such as the Watts riots. NONE of us want that, but I think the whole of America needs to be very nervous.

I watched Beck today. He is DEAD ON with the freedom of speech argument. His jokes were meant to be funny, but I didn't laugh. They were meant also to be truthful. I understood them. There is a real danger here of the revocation of weapons, freedom of speech, and other rights in general if something is not done! This is not a call to arms, or anything of the sort. This is merely an observation. I was worried before about getting a job, getting BACK out on my own, etc. Now...I have those worries, PLUS loss of freedom worries, and violence...general violence towards one another.


What in the blue **** is going on in this country?!?

[Airwolf]

I and others have been saying that there might be some kind of civil war coming and the left seems bent on starting one.

[Revolution]

Well the MOST blood leftists have on their hands in one generation I can think of is Mao. What I think may happen just around the bend will just ADD to all the blood on their disgusting hands.

[Attero Dominatus]

^ Not even too sure what the left is talking about when they use that phrase unless it's what you just mentioned. It's just one of their huge nonsequitar talking points for this issue.


Through 24 pages of this...I have realized something. This is bigger than I thought. I mentioned that there was going to be fear there after a Federal Judge was killed, and a Congresswoman was attempted murdered. I mentioned there would be lashing out. However, I think I underestimated how absolutely HUGE it was going to be. I looked at this issue from the scope of a rifle instead of the microscope. I didn't see it all, I don't think.

Emersing myself in this issue, taking it all in, I think that there is real potential for riots such as in '68. Riots such as the Watts riots. NONE of us want that, but I think the whole of America needs to be very nervous.

I watched Beck today. He is DEAD ON with the freedom of speech argument. His jokes were meant to be funny, but I didn't laugh. They were meant also to be truthful. I understood them. There is a real danger here of the revocation of weapons, freedom of speech, and other rights in general if something is not done! This is not a call to arms, or anything of the sort. This is merely an observation. I was worried before about getting a job, getting BACK out on my own, etc. Now...I have those worries, PLUS loss of freedom worries, and violence...general violence towards one another.


What in the blue **** is going on in this country?!?

People are waking up to the left's efforts to fundamentally transform the country. The collectivists are determined to force their 'utopian' society upon us and this tragedy presents a big opportunity. The flames of hatred are being fanned by the left, no doubt out of hope that more violence will occur: from the top down, the bottom up, and inside out.

[ConservativeMobster]

What second amendment option? 

Is that the option where we, as citizens, have an option to carry a gun or not for protection?

I'm not quite sure what other option she is/was talking about and I followed her fairly closely during her race against Reid.

Here ya go Jess.

1. "I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010

Just google Sharon Angle stupid quotes 

[Carl]

^ Not even too sure what the left is talking about when they use that phrase unless it's what you just mentioned. It's just one of their huge nonsequitar talking points for this issue.


Through 24 pages of this...I have realized something. This is bigger than I thought. I mentioned that there was going to be fear there after a Federal Judge was killed, and a Congresswoman was attempted murdered. I mentioned there would be lashing out. However, I think I underestimated how absolutely HUGE it was going to be. I looked at this issue from the scope of a rifle instead of the microscope. I didn't see it all, I don't think.

Emersing myself in this issue, taking it all in, I think that there is real potential for riots such as in '68. Riots such as the Watts riots. NONE of us want that, but I think the whole of America needs to be very nervous.

I watched Beck today. He is DEAD ON with the freedom of speech argument. His jokes were meant to be funny, but I didn't laugh. They were meant also to be truthful. I understood them. There is a real danger here of the revocation of weapons, freedom of speech, and other rights in general if something is not done! This is not a call to arms, or anything of the sort. This is merely an observation. I was worried before about getting a job, getting BACK out on my own, etc. Now...I have those worries, PLUS loss of freedom worries, and violence...general violence towards one another.


What in the blue **** is going on in this country?!?

You have to keep in mind Rev that the left is always looking for the "big one".
By that I mean a single event or even thought that will instantly and automatically provide the keys to the safe for them.

Global warming was going to be the big one...the end of civilization as we know it so we HAD to become socialists.
Obama being elected with that Congress was the big one...free healthcare and wealth redistribution were finally around the corner.
This was going to be another big one...conservative voices silenced overnight and conservatives marginalized.

They had success with Katrina to a degree but for the most part it never works out because there are still too many thinking people in the country and see through the nonsense.

[Evil_Conservative]

Here ya go Jess.

1. "I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010

Just google Sharon Angle stupid quotes 

Okay, so I can see if someone thinks Angle was SAYING we should "take Reid out", but she wanted us to VOTE him out.  I don't know.  I see nothing wrong with what she said.  The second amendment option is always on me... in case someone wants to steal my stuff or something.

[Ptarmigan]

Postings of a Troubled Mind
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791904576075851892478080.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

Some postings he made from the article.

Even in a setting that includes the raw and often raunchy thoughts of young men, Mr. Loughner's postings were startling. They show an obsession with language, a hatred of the educational system and aggression—all of which later became themes of videos posted by Mr. Loughner on YouTube in the months before the shooting. In the forum posts, Mr. Loughner never mentions any political views explicitly, nor does he name any political figures.

On April 24, Mr. Loughner titled a new online thread: "Would you hit a Handy Cap Child/ Adult?" He wrote: "This is a very interesting question….There are mental retarded children. They're possessing teachers that are typing for money. This will never stop….The drug addicts need to be weeded out to be more intelligent. The Principle of this is that them c— educators need to stop being pigs."

He sure hates handicapped people.

Later that day, he posted a rant titled "Why Rape," which said women in college enjoyed being raped. "There are Rape victims that are under the influence of a substance. The drinking is leading them to rape. The loneliness will bring you to depression. Being alone for a very long time will inevitably lead you to rape."

Sounds like a pervert to me. He clearly has no problems with rape. Sounds like Michael Crook to me.

Jared Loughner’s friend says suspect ‘Did not watch TV … disliked the news’
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jared-loughners-friend-says-suspect-did-not-watch-tv-disliked-the-news_b48040

[Ptarmigan]

Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-arizona-shooting-girlfriend-20110113,0,6891504.story

It is obvious he changed after high school and for the worse.

[Ptarmigan]

Lone Wolf Killers: It's About Fame, Not Politics
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/lone-wolf-killers-fame-politics/story?id=12583783

"If we feel that civility in public discourse is going to take away mass shootings we are mistaken," said Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist at New York University and an ABC News consultant. "Because the one common threat in mass shooting is, what does the shooter get out of it? And the shooter recognizes that if you assassinate a political figure you will be notorious."

"Most of them are very socially uncomfortable," said Brad Garrett, a former FBI profiler and special agent, "and so as a result they tend to withdraw and become more and more isolated and that is the reason I think we call them lone wolves because it's like they can't work in the pack, in other words they can't work in society."

[thundley4]

Lone Wolf Killers: It's About Fame, Not Politics
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/lone-wolf-killers-fame-politics/story?id=12583783

If it were about politics and not fame, he would have made more of an attempt to ensure that his primary target was reached, and not just kill indiscriminately.

[Eupher]

If it were about politics and not fame, he would have made more of an attempt to ensure that his primary target was reached, and not just kill indiscriminately.

It's pretty clear that the prosecutors are going to charge him with Murder One, citing his having planned the attack and thus being mentally capable enough to do that.

Actually executing the attack, however, at least a couple of differing points could be argued - one, that he was so whacked out, so mentally ill that indiscriminate shooting is all he could manage, or two, that his evident inexperience with firearms and the "heat of the moment" prompted him to spray his fire rather than target one individual.

about the time he dropped his mag to reload, that's when a couple of guys jumped him or hit him with a chair. Loughner fell to the ground next to a woman who was playing dead and she saw that Loughner had a full magazine in his hand, but dropped it during the fall. She snagged it away from him and that was the end of the attack.

I don't know if he had already reloaded, though. With as many as 19 being struck by bullets, I guess he would've had to......

[DumbAss Tanker]

I believe he was using an extended mag, I have heard a 30-rounder but I put no deep faith in the strict accuracy of anything published or broadcast so far.

[Chris_]

I believe he was using an extended mag, I have heard a 30-rounder but I put no deep faith in the strict accuracy of anything published or broadcast so far.

I bet Cheaper Than Dirt or AIM has them... I vaugely remember seeing them in the CTD catalog a while back.  I doubt the work filter here would allow me to take a peek but I'm almost positive they sell them.

[cavegal]

Incident Reports Related to Alleged Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner Released By Sheriff



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12/pima-county-sheriffs-department-releases-loughner-records/

in 2008, Loughner reported being a victim of identity theft on Oct. 3 after finding an online profile on PeekYou.com that included a picture of himself and other details that were inaccurate, according to the report.

oh so he is a victim ,,,what a crock

[thundley4]

Incident Reports Related to Alleged Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner Released By Sheriff



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12/pima-county-sheriffs-department-releases-loughner-records/
 oh so he is a victim ,,,what a crock

I'm waiting for the news to come out that he was abused by one or both of his parents, and was the target of bullies at school. That will garner him lots of sympathy at DU.

[Eupher]

But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?

These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.

There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.

[olde north church]

But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?

These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.

There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.

He's go a guardian angel.

[Ptarmigan]

But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?

These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.

There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.

I think so too. Most of them are complaints filed by Randy Loughner. One of them was reported as a fire, which turned out to be a barbecue.

The alcohol poisoning he got was in May of 2006 and that happened when he was in high school. It was by himself after his father yelled at him.

Looks like the Loughners have had complaints lodged against them as well.

Nothing on the graffiti.

[Airwolf]

But isn't it noteworthy how "clean" all that is? No records of having communicated threats, no reports of "Holy shit, come get this whacko OUTTA here!", and other indicators of whackiness?

These "incident reports" don't pass the smell test.

There's a lot more there that hasn't come out.

The sherriffs had plenty of time to erase anything like that and I wouldn't put it past him to have done it.

[thundley4]

Fox News had reported that at least 4 of 10 calls to the Loughner house were about Jared. What were the others about?