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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #301 on: January 10, 2011, 02:17:20 PM »
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However, Potok says inferences can be made about his intellectual leanings from his reading list that includes books that run a theme of "individual versus the totalitarian state". Some of his favorites were Ayn Rand’s 'We the Living' and 'Atlas Shrugged' and George Orwell’s '1984' and 'Animal Farm' as well as Hitler's 'Mein Kampf.'

"... I think Loughner’s reading list, although it included children’s books and a few classics, had an underlying theme — the individual versus the totalitarian state. Certainly, that’s the explicit central theme of Ayn Rand’s We the Living and Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm, among others."

I hope this pinhead didn't hurt himself making that leap of faith. :whatever:
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #302 on: January 10, 2011, 02:21:27 PM »
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TUCSON, Ariz.—Accused gunman Jared Lee Loughner appeared to have been long obsessed with U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

A safe at Mr. Loughner's home contained a form letter from Ms. Giffords' office thanking him for attending a 2007 "Congress on your Corner'' event in Tucson. The safe also held an envelope with handwritten notes, including the name of Ms. Giffords, as well as "I planned ahead," "My assassination," and what appeared to be Mr. Loughner's signature, according to an FBI affidavit.

More: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576071191163461466.html?

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #303 on: January 10, 2011, 02:30:38 PM »
Everything about this guy is he was a stalker crazy leftist. He wanted to be a woman, he wanted pot to be the US currency.He had a skull in his backyard and my have worshiped it. Other students were afraid of him and wrote about it. They feared each day he would bring a gun to school and shoot it up. All the signs were there.


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #304 on: January 10, 2011, 02:48:32 PM »
Sheriff has a lawyer. Momma works for the county. He was a known nutcase and trouble maker.

I'm thinking sheriff is guilty of covering up his shit for momma.
...and is now worried about covering his own ass.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #305 on: January 10, 2011, 02:51:23 PM »
Sheriff has a lawyer. Momma works for the county. He was a known nutcase and trouble maker.

I'm thinking sheriff is guilty of covering up his shit for momma.
...and is now worried about covering his own ass.

That could very well be the case. The parents name are Randy and Amy Loughner.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #306 on: January 10, 2011, 02:56:08 PM »
Jared Loughner Had 5 Run-ins with College Police
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/10/national/main7231560.shtml

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Jared Loughner, the suspected gunman in a Tucson shooting rampage, had five run-ins with Pima Community College campus police and was placed on suspension for violating the student code of conduct, which later led to his withdrawal from the school.

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His high school friends said they fell out of touch with Loughner and last spoke to him around March, when one of them was going to set up some bottles in the desert for target practice and Loughner suggested he might come along. It was unusual - Loughner hadn't expressed an interest in guns before - and his increasingly confrontational behavior was pushing them apart. He would send bizarre text messages, but also break off contact for weeks on end.

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Several people who knew Loughner at community college said he did not engage in political discussions - in fact, he didn't talk much at all, and when he did classmates cringed.

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"He made a lot of the people really uncomfortable, especially the girls in the class," said Steven Cates, who attended an advanced poetry writing class with Loughner at Pima Community College last spring. Though he struck up a passing friendship with Loughner, he said a group of other students went to the teacher to complain about Loughner at one point.

It is possible that Loughner has Schizoid and Schizotypal personality disorder. Here are signs of schizoid.
Emotional coldness, detachment or reduced affection.
Limited capacity to express either positive or negative emotions towards others.
Consistent preference for solitary activities.
Very few, if any, close friends or relationships, and a lack of desire for such.
Indifference to either praise or criticism.
Taking pleasure in few, if any, activities.
Indifference to social norms and conventions.
Preoccupation with fantasy and introspection.
Lack of desire for sexual experiences with another person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder

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Here are signs of schizotypal.

Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations)
Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped)
Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
Inappropriate or constricted affect
Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar
Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx33.htm

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #307 on: January 10, 2011, 03:01:45 PM »
Sheriff has a lawyer. Momma works for the county. He was a known nutcase and trouble maker.

I'm thinking sheriff is guilty of covering up his shit for momma.
...and is now worried about covering his own ass.

Funny you should mention that, JohnnyReb...

From AoSHQ:

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Blogger's Report: Sherrif Dupnik Pre-Emptively Blaming Sarah Palin Because He Knows True Blame Lay In His Office?

Hey, is this an unverified report, and am I slandering a man without waiting on evidence and confirmation? I learned that from the media.

This is the claim. We'll see if it's true.

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County...
Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more..,,

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.


If the basic factual predicate there is true, the motivation and actions alleged make sense -- if you've dropped the ball, badly, and that's led to six murders and multiple grave injuries, damnit, you'd better start soliciting political allies and dreaming up faraway scapegoats.


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #308 on: January 10, 2011, 03:04:34 PM »
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Dupnik's Report: Yeah, Loughner Did Make Death Threats

I had left a question mark about this element of the charge. But as commenters, and Moe Lane, tell me, Dupnik himself confessed that Loughner had made death threats.

He didn't say against whom, but I have a pretty good guess that Gabrielle Giffords was one of the targets.

So... of course this is Sarah Palin's fault.

Did you know when Sarah Palin resigned the governorship she immediately assumed the position of Acting Sheriff of Pima County? It's true; it's right there in the Alaska Constitution. If you resign your post as governor you immediately become sheriff of an Arizona County.

Bad Sarah. Very bad Sarah.


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #309 on: January 10, 2011, 03:15:59 PM »
Family of suspect in Giffords shooting blocked access to house

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/10/20110110gabrielle-giffords-shooting-suspect-family-barricade-brk10-ON.html

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FBI agents working on the Gabrielle Giffords shooing encountered trouble gaining entry to the suspect's family home Monday morning.

Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.

At about 12:25 p.m., agents began banging on the blockade, yelling, "This is the FBI. Let us in."

Some agents were sent behind the house, and they were able to get inside after talking to family members.

Interesting they stopped the FBI.  This stinks to high heaven!


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #310 on: January 10, 2011, 03:17:55 PM »
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Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.

Sounds like being a crazy loon runs in the family.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #311 on: January 10, 2011, 03:19:34 PM »
"Sheriff" Dumbdink makes Roscoe P. Coltrane look like a rocket scientist.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #312 on: January 10, 2011, 03:21:59 PM »
Sounds like being a crazy loon runs in the family.

On Fox News earlier , they were talking to a neighbor  that said the father yelled at him several times when the city did not pick up the neighbors trash. Dear old dad thought it was the neighbors fault that the full garbage can was left outside.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #313 on: January 10, 2011, 03:37:10 PM »
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Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.

I wonder when and why they did that. Strange turn of events.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #315 on: January 10, 2011, 03:59:43 PM »
The whole family sounds unstable. 

Who blocks out the FBI?

I guess if you don't want the media coming to your front door, fine.. whatever.  But the FBI?  Open the damn door.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #316 on: January 10, 2011, 04:14:41 PM »
The whole family sounds unstable. 

Who blocks out the FBI?

I guess if you don't want the media coming to your front door, fine.. whatever.  But the FBI?  Open the damn door.
Who has the clout to stop the FBI?


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #317 on: January 10, 2011, 04:24:41 PM »
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Dupnik's Report: Yeah, Loughner Did Make Death Threats

I had left a question mark about this element of the charge. But as commenters, and Moe Lane, tell me, Dupnik himself confessed that Loughner had made death threats.

He didn't say against whom, but I have a pretty good guess that Gabrielle Giffords was one of the targets.

So... of course this is Sarah Palin's fault.

Did you know when Sarah Palin resigned the governorship she immediately assumed the position of Acting Sheriff of Pima County? It's true; it's right there in the Alaska Constitution. If you resign your post as governor you immediately become sheriff of an Arizona County.

Bad Sarah. Very bad Sarah.

[DU Mode]  Well I have it on very good authority (from my yoga master's next door neighbor's contact at the local canabis dispensery) that Jared Loughner is the love child of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck (yes, that Glenn Beck).  She said that there is video tape of Sarah Palin dropping Loughner off at the entrance the Safeway parking lot shortly before the shooting occured.  Viewed on the back of her car (a gas guzzling SUV) was a bumper sticker that said "Death to all Democrats".  [/DU mode]
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #318 on: January 10, 2011, 04:28:22 PM »
Suspect in Giffords shooting smirks in court appearance
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/10/20110110gabrielle-giffords-suspect-loughner-court-appearance-brk10-ON.html

Copied from the abovelink....the next moonbat to explode????

The event drew a lone protester, George Clifton, 58, of Scottsdale, who carried a sign saying, "I stand with all immigrants." Clifton also chanted slogans.

While calling out that Saturday's events were a tragedy, he questioned why the American people were not upset over servicemen's deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan.


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #319 on: January 10, 2011, 04:33:37 PM »
Well said! Welcome! This article is about the possibility that Loughner could walk. Hopefully, his ass gets fried for it.

Could Jared Loughner Escape a Prison Sentence?
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/could-jared-loughner-escape-a-prison-sentence/

I recall that Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer were insane. Also, they were psychopaths.

Not  so, as I recall becoming very upset when 8-10 Doctors that had interviewed Jeffery Dahmer stated on the stand the he was not in fact insane.   Not by the legal meaning of the word.

Gave me the Willey's as to this day if Jeffery's acts were that of a sane person, what the hell are the acts of an insane person.??

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #320 on: January 10, 2011, 04:47:46 PM »
Not  so, as I recall becoming very upset when 8-10 Doctors that had interviewed Jeffery Dahmer stated on the stand the he was not in fact insane.   Not by the legal meaning of the word.

Gave me the Willey's as to this day if Jeffery's acts were that of a sane person, what the hell are the acts of an insane person.??

I am not saying that Dahmer was insane. It is what I recall reading in books about serial killers and saying what I recall. Insanity is a legal and clinical term.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #321 on: January 10, 2011, 04:52:27 PM »
His mug shot


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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #322 on: January 10, 2011, 04:54:37 PM »
Biden is an illegitimate President.  Change my mind.

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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #323 on: January 10, 2011, 04:56:19 PM »
He's got crazy eyes.

That's what I am thinking too. Looks like a psychopath. I see evil in him.
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« Reply #324 on: January 10, 2011, 04:58:21 PM »
His mug shot

Unfortunately it has "moonbat crazy" stamped all over it.
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