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« Reply #125 on: March 08, 2013, 09:22:33 AM »
That is the reason why I think Barry wanted this. He wanted to hurt the military. I mock the sequester because I think we need some comic relief. In no way do I intend to make light of what is happening to the military. I am mocking his end of times predictions.

Doc, what Freeper said.  I apologize from the bottom of my heart if any of my mockery seemed insensitive to any active/retired military.  I can assure you that was not my intent. 
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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #126 on: March 08, 2013, 11:14:53 AM »
A local talk show host compared the 40 billion (not the 80 that is claimed) that was/will be cut is like cutting a gallon of milk out of a family budget.  Also, during the month of February all while Barry is yapping on and on about it, the US government added 280 billion in debt, just in the month of Feb.

There are so many other programs that can be cut, in other threads I have listed tons of our pork spending.  And that is just a needle in a hay stack really.

Oh by the way Barry, I wonder how much that 20 vehicle caravan you took .5 miles to dinner the other night cost?

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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #127 on: March 08, 2013, 11:26:26 AM »
Just got an email that all federal tuition assistance for the National Guard has been suspended.

It won't effect me but as professional soldiers are perpetual students a lot of people are now furiously pissed.
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« Reply #128 on: March 08, 2013, 11:30:24 AM »
Just got an email that all federal tuition assistance for the National Guard has been suspended.

It won't effect me but as professional soldiers are perpetual students a lot of people are now furiously pissed.

Yes, just another way to cut something that will really affect people rather than cutting any actual BS from the budget continuing resolutions that we haven't have had in last 5 years.
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« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2013, 11:35:42 AM »
Doc, what Freeper said.  I apologize from the bottom of my heart if any of my mockery seemed insensitive to any active/retired military.  I can assure you that was not my intent. 

No apologies necessary from anyone. It's more an observation of the disconnect between American society and the American military at this point. OUR world is crashing and burning, life goes on for you.
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« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2013, 01:19:22 PM »
Doc, what Freeper said.  I apologize from the bottom of my heart if any of my mockery seemed insensitive to any active/retired military.  I can assure you that was not my intent.  

I second Iassa, and actually my daughter's job is going to be hit by the sequester with the mandatory unpaid furlogh days starting in April. :(

I see my post crossed with yours, docstew.  Still, I mean what I said about being sorry if anyone was offended.  I'm damning Obama from the bottom of my heart every day his ridiculous abdication of any responsibility for ANYTHING that is happening in this country to all of her citizens, particularly defense.  About the only requirement of the Constitution is to protect and defend the nation and he can't get that right.  What an asshole. :bird:
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« Reply #131 on: March 08, 2013, 01:35:14 PM »
For Obama, this isn't about reducing spending... it's intimidation, plain and simple.  "Do what I say or else."
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« Reply #132 on: March 08, 2013, 02:02:05 PM »
No apologies necessary from anyone. It's more an observation of the disconnect between American society and the American military at this point. OUR world is crashing and burning, life goes on for you.
I agree that O and his demagogue tour can't be allowed to stand, and mockery and ridicule make effective weapons.

I don't understand how this sequester works.  If they are cutting the increase, how does that affect anything?   They are still going to get more money this year than they had last year.   

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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #133 on: March 08, 2013, 02:18:54 PM »
I don't understand how this sequester works.  If they are cutting the increase, how does that affect anything?   They are still going to get more money this year than they had last year.   

What am I missing?

Civilian employees will lose one day a week pay until the end of the fiscal year. IE they will be off every Friday(for example) without pay until Sept 30th.

You can question the whys of what they are doing, but that is the reality to the average employee.

Like doc said both military and civilian alike lose tuition assistance which is helping a lot of us try to move ahead and advance our careers and better ourselves and our families.

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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #134 on: March 08, 2013, 02:21:27 PM »
I don't understand how this sequester works.  If they are cutting the increase, how does that affect anything?   They are still going to get more money this year than they had last year.   

What am I missing?

I have the same question.

The only explanation I can think of is they are doing all this in order to make it hurt people. Or our information is wrong and theses are actual reductions.
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« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2013, 02:25:22 PM »
I have the same question.

The only explanation I can think of is they are doing all this in order to make it hurt people. Or our information is wrong and theses are actual reductions.

Dual purpose: hurt the military and hurt people individually who likely are not friendly to him(know many more conservs then libs even in the civ. DOD world)
but I mentioned this before and a couple weeks ago really don't think I was taken seriously, but that's still my position.

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« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2013, 02:31:13 PM »
Dual purpose: hurt the military and hurt people individually who likely are not friendly to him(know many more conservs then libs even in the civ. DOD world)
but I mentioned this before and a couple weeks ago really don't think I was taken seriously, but that's still my position.

I'm confused who wasn't taking you seriously?
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« Reply #137 on: March 08, 2013, 02:33:40 PM »
I took you seriously, JTY, and all the others, too.  I guess I just didn't know what to say.  I feel utterly helpless in the face of being screwed by my government.  The only Reps I have are Dem.  They disregard me completely. 


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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #138 on: March 08, 2013, 03:11:51 PM »
For Obama, this isn't about reducing spending... it's intimidation, plain and simple.  "Do what I say or else."

Obama is following another Hussein, Saddam........a book...."Saddam Hussein: The Politics of Revenge".

During the campaign Obama suggested that supporters take "revenge", now Obama is taking revenge. 
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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #139 on: March 08, 2013, 03:18:11 PM »
I took you seriously, JTY, and all the others, too.  I guess I just didn't know what to say.  I feel utterly helpless in the face of being screwed by my government.  The only Reps I have are Dem.  They disregard me completely. 



I feel the same way right now both as a conservative and an employer for that gov. I have no way to adjust to this either in my own personal situation(ie take another job over the weekend). I truly have been very emotional lately wondering what will happen to us if this continues as long as they say.  :(

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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #140 on: March 08, 2013, 03:23:03 PM »
I'm confused who wasn't taking you seriously?

it was poo pooed but that may have been another thread.

And if I'm emotional over this it's because it is effecting me on a level long before it will effect you all but mark my words this will impact everyone else eventually too as it continues. I want them to fight him, but if our side does not do it pointing out the whys of what he is doing, what is the point. He is taking revenge and I think it's why he is being such a stalwart on this. I guess I'm a little raw on this because at this point, I truly am scared of the future with this guy. I have never felt like I'm in the position of in my own country having to strategically plan an exit to another more freedom friendly state(territory) if the shart hit the fan. I always said that was dummie talk for not getting their way, but I'm truly at the point that this may be life or death eventually that kind of decision to go or not. I am really quite shaken over what I see potentially coming down the pike putting aside my own short term family concerns. I guess everyone in history has sat a little shell shocked when they realized they are a part of a dark time in history; that's where I'm at. I miss the 80's and Reagan :bawl:

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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #141 on: March 08, 2013, 04:20:47 PM »
I have the same question.

The only explanation I can think of is they are doing all this in order to make it hurt people. Or our information is wrong and theses are actual reductions.

Your info is right and wrong.

Again I can only speak for the Navy, unofficially of course, these are true cuts. We're in a CR from 2012 and sequester cuts across regardless.  In FY12 the Navy was budgeted for acquisition not training or maintenance.  So across the board  cuts.

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« Reply #142 on: March 08, 2013, 05:00:53 PM »
I am really quite shaken over what I see potentially coming down the pike putting aside my own short term family concerns. I guess everyone in history has sat a little shell shocked when they realized they are a part of a dark time in history; that's where I'm at. I miss the 80's and Reagan :bawl:

Take heart....half the country didn't vote for Obama.  If he keeps his scorch and burn policies in effect, even some of his worshipers will get scared too and finally open their eyes.

I can't help but bring up Rand Paul's filibuster here.  One of our biggest problems is we don't have any real leadership right now and the media never says anything about conservative views outside of trying to make us look bad.  Rand wanted a question about Obama having the authority to use drones on American citizens answered.  He was ignored as a sitting Senator.  When Holder finally did answer Rand (after a threat to filibuster) Holder said he felt that Obama did have the authority.  Well, that's when Rand went to the floor of the Senate and started the filibuster.  If he had not done that, would the American people even know about the drone policy?   The media wouldn't have reported it, but they didn't have a choice after Rand made a spectacle of it.  Just like fast and furious and Benghazi gate.  How many Americans really know what happened there and how Holder and Obama have been hiding and blocking information from those in position to have oversight?

It's like we have no real leadership or a strong voice, a unified message or anyway for it to be heard and taken seriously.  But I'm hoping Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rubio, Olmert and others follow their courage to speak up and to get out there and fight.  Graham and McCain be dammned.

You mentioned Reagan.  Read his 1975 C-Pac speech after the loss to Jimmy Carter.  It could have been written today.

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« Reply #143 on: March 08, 2013, 09:44:32 PM »
Take heart....half the country didn't vote for Obama.  If he keeps his scorch and burn policies in effect, even some of his worshipers will get scared too and finally open their eyes.

I can't help but bring up Rand Paul's filibuster here.  One of our biggest problems is we don't have any real leadership right now and the media never says anything about conservative views outside of trying to make us look bad.  Rand wanted a question about Obama having the authority to use drones on American citizens answered.  He was ignored as a sitting Senator.  When Holder finally did answer Rand (after a threat to filibuster) Holder said he felt that Obama did have the authority.  Well, that's when Rand went to the floor of the Senate and started the filibuster.  If he had not done that, would the American people even know about the drone policy?   The media wouldn't have reported it, but they didn't have a choice after Rand made a spectacle of it.  Just like fast and furious and Benghazi gate.  How many Americans really know what happened there and how Holder and Obama have been hiding and blocking information from those in position to have oversight?

It's like we have no real leadership or a strong voice, a unified message or anyway for it to be heard and taken seriously.  But I'm hoping Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rubio, Olmert and others follow their courage to speak up and to get out there and fight.  Graham and McCain be dammned.

You mentioned Reagan.  Read his 1975 C-Pac speech after the loss to Jimmy Carter.  It could have been written today.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/uncategorized/excerpts-from-ronald-reagans-1975-speech-to-cpac/








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Re: Post your sequester horror stories here.
« Reply #144 on: March 08, 2013, 09:55:58 PM »
Take heart....half the country didn't vote for Obama.  If he keeps his scorch and burn policies in effect, even some of his worshipers will get scared too and finally open their eyes.

I can't help but bring up Rand Paul's filibuster here.  One of our biggest problems is we don't have any real leadership right now and the media never says anything about conservative views outside of trying to make us look bad.  Rand wanted a question about Obama having the authority to use drones on American citizens answered.  He was ignored as a sitting Senator.  When Holder finally did answer Rand (after a threat to filibuster) Holder said he felt that Obama did have the authority.  Well, that's when Rand went to the floor of the Senate and started the filibuster.  If he had not done that, would the American people even know about the drone policy?   The media wouldn't have reported it, but they didn't have a choice after Rand made a spectacle of it.  Just like fast and furious and Benghazi gate.  How many Americans really know what happened there and how Holder and Obama have been hiding and blocking information from those in position to have oversight?

It's like we have no real leadership or a strong voice, a unified message or anyway for it to be heard and taken seriously.  But I'm hoping Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rubio, Olmert and others follow their courage to speak up and to get out there and fight.  Graham and McCain be dammned.

You mentioned Reagan.  Read his 1975 C-Pac speech after the loss to Jimmy Carter.  It could have been written today.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/uncategorized/excerpts-from-ronald-reagans-1975-speech-to-cpac/


The only people paying attention to Rand Paul is his dad, Dr. Nutz, and those who are truly interested in the medical anomaly of how a middle-aged man can actually hold his urine for almost 13 hours.

The low information voter still doesn't have a clue about the drone bullshit, and it is bullshit because for a smart guy, Holder doesn't know how to write a letter that makes it clear that ENEMY COMBATANTS are legal targets for the president no matter where they are -- in the country or outside the country.

Al Lawaki qualified as an enemy combatant due to his al Qaeda connection. Ergo, he needed to die.

Whether the sumbitch was in Yemen or in the suburbs of Buffalo shouldn't matter a whit.

Neither should his status as an American.

I like the way GWB put it -- "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Short, simple, and to the point. Drones or no drones.
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« Reply #145 on: March 09, 2013, 08:31:39 AM »
Here is what NAVAIR said about the sequestor Thursday.
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« Reply #146 on: March 09, 2013, 09:24:32 AM »
Earlier I was joking about the sequester and my dryer belt. Well guess what there is not a single place in this whole freaking town that sells dryer belts. You have to order the damn things either online or through the store.
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« Reply #147 on: March 09, 2013, 09:54:51 AM »
]The low information voter still doesn't have a clue about the drone bullshit, and it is bullshit because for a smart guy, Holder doesn't know how to write a letter that makes it clear that ENEMY COMBATANTS are legal targets for the president no matter where they are -- in the country or outside the country.

So your okay with Obama using drones inside the U.S.?  Even knowing this Administration has enemy lists with mostly conservative groups including vets, preppers, anti-abortionists, anti-illegal immigration, pro-10th amendment supporters?
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« Reply #148 on: March 09, 2013, 10:05:10 AM »
So your okay with Obama using drones inside the U.S.?  Even knowing this Administration has enemy lists with mostly conservative groups including vets, preppers, anti-abortionists, anti-illegal immigration, pro-10th amendment supporters?


I hate to break it you, if Barry wants to shove a drone up someone's ass he will do it. He doesn't give a damn about what a piece of paper says.

I don't think he is crazy enough to do it, he will just send in a thug or 2 with a gun if he wants someone to become an unperson. I believe that Holder answered like he did on purpose in order to screw with the repukes.

I still think the whole thing was a setup. Holder answers like he did, Rand gets upset at the answer, then while Rand is doing a filibuster, 0bama is serving McCain and Graham a romantic dinner and when they get home they see what the crazy kids did while they were out on a date.

I'm telling you all they are going to use this in 2014 to convince the low information voters that the repukes are crazy and get them out to vote in the midterms.



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« Reply #149 on: March 09, 2013, 04:00:32 PM »
So your okay with Obama using drones inside the U.S.?  Even knowing this Administration has enemy lists with mostly conservative groups including vets, preppers, anti-abortionists, anti-illegal immigration, pro-10th amendment supporters?


Within the confines of the law, yep, I'm okay with it.

ANY administration has enemy lists. Barry is definitely not the first to have such a list and he won't be the last.
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