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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2012, 09:07:40 PM »
Obama and the Democraps are in panic mode. Nothing seems to be working for them. So, the outrageous things that they will come up with like fags marriage will just be the norm.

Like others have stated, I do not see how this will gain him any votes. On the contrary, this will turn off Independents and some moderate Democrats.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2012, 11:52:33 PM »
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2012, 03:29:23 AM »
he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....this is an act of political panic......based solely on results from a state that he not only won in 2008, but needs again in November.......he must be seeing some seriously bad internal poll numbers that are telling him that even his liberal base is eroding.

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From what I understand it was also about the $$$$...seems a lot of his large money contributors are in the gay community and they'd been holding back donations.

But no matter how you slice it...this move smacks of desperation.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2012, 06:44:26 AM »
This is just a distraction. Also, didn't Obama say in 2008 that he was against gay marriage, claiming his "Christian" faith led him to feel that way? Yet another thing the bigot lied about.
Like anyone ever believed him?   ::)  What he's hoping is that this decision will galvanize the college and young adult groups, the same groups that put him over the top on his "hope and change" platform.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2012, 07:57:29 AM »
Has he at least put a ring on Holder's finger? Oh those two.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2012, 08:10:26 AM »
Has he at least put a ring on Holder's finger? Oh those two.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2012, 08:48:07 AM »
:lmao:

Do you think we should send them something? Like maybe 1 million Best Wishes from the Tea Party cards?


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But don't get me wrong, I'd at least send a toaster or cuisinart or something, too.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2012, 10:11:24 AM »
Obama claims that this new belief comes from the bible, seeing that him and Michelle are practicing "Christians" (BS). He told ABC news it comes from the Golden Rule; Treat others the way you would want to be treated. Is this guy for real? One he is in no way a christian, two he insults me when he claims to get the reasoning for same sex marriage from the bible, especially when there is no where in the bible advocating it, and three he needs to shut his beak about things he knows nothing about.

His spiritual adviser is against him on this and his preacher friends are against him on this. Pat Robertson said today that he thinks Obama knows that he is going to lose the election and he is just trying to appease his small base. I kind of agree with him.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2012, 10:45:11 AM »
We can only "hope" owebuma is beginning a run off the deep end. I for one would love to help him out achieving success in that endeavor.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2012, 12:32:33 PM »
Ok, that is what I was thinking but I like to hear it from other's too in case I didn't think of something.

You consider yourself an "Independent", doncha? heh, heh!

From what I understand it was also about the $$$$...seems a lot of his large money contributors are in the gay community and they'd been holding back donations.

But no matter how you slice it...this move smacks of desperation.

I believe it was as much as 20%!
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2012, 12:41:29 PM »
Do you think we should send them something? Like maybe 1 million Best Wishes from the Tea Party cards?


Heh, heh, heh.


But don't get me wrong, I'd at least send a toaster or cuisinart or something, too.


Get 'em a lifetime supply of condoms and a gift certificate for unlimited abortions at Planned Partnerhood.

Hey, we don't want to take noooooooo chances.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2012, 01:08:15 PM »
I think this was largely an economic decision. His far left contributors were holding back until he threw them a bone.

I think this will be a close race no matter what Obama says or does. Deep blue states will go for him pretty much no matter what.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2012, 02:41:37 PM »
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Obama has not “evolved”—he has changed his position whenever his political fortunes required him to do so. Running for the Illinois state senate from a trendy area of Chicago in 1996, he was for gay marriage. “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages,” he wrote in answer to a questionnaire back then. In 2004, he was running for the U.S. Senate and needed to appeal to voters statewide. So he evolved, and favored civil unions but opposed homosexual “marriage.” In 2008, running for president, he said, “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” Now in 2012, facing a tough reelection campaign where he needs energized supporters of gay “marriage” and has disappointed them with his refusal to give them his support, he is for it. To paraphrase John Kerry, he was for it before he was against it before he was for it again.

When I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf            . . it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married.”

Mr. Obama actually did bare his soul unintentionally today (perhaps the Biden disease is catching) with his astonishing characterization of American fighting men and women, whom he referred to as “those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf.” Really?

Most Americans thought they were fighting for the country, not on Barack Obama’s behalf.  Slip of the tongue, to be sure, but can one think of another president who’d have made it? 

The president, when he says, “at a certain point I’ve just concluded,” appears to refer to the point where Joe Biden smoked him out, unintentionally no doubt (as are most of Biden’s actions). And it is important “for me personally” to speak, the president says; this isn’t politics, you see, but some kind of testimony, a baring of the soul.

The soldiers are fighting under his command, under his orders, to be sure, but this particular locution (fighting on my behalf) is offensive and solipsistic.  Mr. Obama has switched his position on the sanctity of marriage back and forth and has a new one again,revealing that when politics make it advisable to him and to his campaign.  Whether this is the end or he will “evolve” some more is anyone’s guess.

But let’s leave our soldiers out of this. They aren’t fighting for Mr. Obama and his campaign, and no one sent them out to risk their lives to win same sex “marriage.”
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2012, 02:49:27 PM »

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2012, 03:19:03 PM »
In the grand scheme of things....like war, an economy in the dumper, people losing their jobs. people who have lost or losing their homes, ( I did 48 reports on houses last month & have already gotten 30 this month - all but one(a PMI removal) are in trouble or already gone), Iran and N Korea messing with nuclear bombs....I personally don't give a rat's patoot if gays have a right to marry or not.

Yes I do have a a bit of an issue with them getting married in a church, but it's not MY church (don't think the Catholic Church will ever reach a point where it's allowed). I have no control over other religions, (or my own for that matter!) and last I checked, God hasn't designated me as his press secretary and given me clearance to speak for Him.

Yes, I do think they should be allowed to enter into a civil union - with a legal and binding contract/license - just as a marriage license does for heterosexual couples. Gays want all the "rights and priviledges of married heterosexual couples". Fine, let them also have all the fighting, arguing, attorney fees out the wahzoo, that divorces cost heterosexuals. Why should they be allowed to just walk away with a pfffft! and the relationship be over with no consequences (financial, emotional, possibly responsibility toward child/children)???

Did anyone really believe, that someone as far left as Obama is, would not be FOR gay marriage? Please...he just came out and made this "oh so heartfelt explanation" on major network television that he was for it. Excuse me while I go  :puke: :puke: 

His major announcement is going to do only a couple of things....get gays who may or may not be contributing to his 'war chest", to give and give big.

It will get the Hollywood elite with gobs of money, to give more to Mr Wonderful who came out in support of all their gay fellow actors/others in the business, so that they can brag to all their fellow actors/others in the business...that they gave to the most progressive thinking president in the history of democratic freedom.  ::)

But most of all....this is going to keep the talking heads, mainstream news programs, etc, talking about the whole subject of gay marriage for the next week or so, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANT STUFF THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THAN WHETHER OR NOT TOM AND DICK CAN GET LEGALLY HITCHED!!!!

Do you really care that much what goes on in someone else's bedroom?

Or do you care about whether or not you have a job tomorrow, so you can pay your bills, and that your children have a future in this country, instead of no jobs, being bombed out by Iran/N Korea, and living under some sort of dictator?
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2012, 03:30:34 PM »
Mitt Romney said on Covuto today that he is against gay marriage, but he has no problem with gays adopting (I'm not sure if he means gay couple or not). I'm with him on gay marriage, but gays adopting doesn't sit right with me.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2012, 03:39:15 PM »
There is a much higher incidence of child molestation amongst the homosexual community. The idea of gay adoption is one that would expose children to unwarranted additional risks of that type of depravity.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 03:41:36 PM »
Mitt Romney said on Covuto today that he is against gay marriage, but he has no problem with gays adopting (I'm not sure if he means gay couple or not). I'm with him on gay marriage, but gays adopting doesn't sit right with me.

I think the first gay adoption was way back in the 70's when a judge in Florida ruled it unconstitutional to forbid it. I didn't like gay adoption then and I still don't like it.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2012, 04:28:08 PM »
There is a much higher incidence of child molestation amongst the homosexual community. The idea of gay adoption is one that would expose children to unwarranted additional risks of that type of depravity.

Just as importantly in my view is the idea that kids living in a homo household are exposed to -- that homosexuality is a NORMAL behavior when it's everything BUT normal.

Even in a gay household that does not molest children and is supportive and caring, kids get the idea that two dudes swapping spit is an acceptable practice.

What two adult homos do in their own home is their own business, but it puts the kid in an extremely awkward position trying to make sense out of the fact he's got two daddies. Poor kid is already confused about life, about his own sexuality and about life in general. Why make it doubly or triply difficult?

Putting kids in that kind of situation is a special kind of abuse that the homo world doesn't even come close to acknowledging.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2012, 04:31:39 PM »
Just as importantly in my view is the idea that kids living in a homo household are exposed to -- that homosexuality is a NORMAL behavior when it's everything BUT normal.

Even in a gay household that does not molest children and is supportive and caring, kids get the idea that two dudes swapping spit is an acceptable practice.

What two adult homos do in their own home is their own business, but it puts the kid in an extremely awkward position trying to make sense out of the fact he's got two daddies. Poor kid is already confused about life, about his own sexuality and about life in general. Why make it doubly or triply difficult?

Putting kids in that kind of situation is a special kind of abuse that the homo world doesn't even come close to acknowledging.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2012, 06:40:14 PM »
This may be anecdotal, but a conservative Christian black woman is again running against Steve Cohen here.  I campaigned for her and will again.  Anyway, she was doing door to door in my neighborhood yesterday, and stopped at my house.  When she recognized me, she literally jumped up and down about the news that Obama had embraced same-sex marriage.  She said amongst her church congregation this will most assuredly keep voters at home, admittedly in small numbers, but when you add this to all of the other groups or occupations he has pissed off, this may have sealed the deal.  She has a point.  He has pissed off seniors (no COLA for 2 years, cuts to Medicare), the oil business (moratoriums), Catholics, bankers, coal industry, farmers, etc. etc. etc. 

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2012, 02:05:52 AM »
Repubs should run ads that Obama supports Gay Marriage and that Gays are struggling like Martin L. King did in the Civil Rights Movement. The pussiefied Repubs won't do it cause they might offend someone.

The queers shit in their britches when they tried that in CA; all the black I worked with were opposed to that association.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2012, 09:16:58 AM »
Can you explain why?

As sparky pointed out, here we defeated the Gay marriage push by 61% of the vote. But, of course, the Ghays found a Ultra Lib Judge to overturn the will of the people.
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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2012, 03:24:02 PM »
This may be anecdotal, but a conservative Christian black woman is again running against Steve Cohen here.  I campaigned for her and will again.  Anyway, she was doing door to door in my neighborhood yesterday, and stopped at my house.  When she recognized me, she literally jumped up and down about the news that Obama had embraced same-sex marriage.  She said amongst her church congregation this will most assuredly keep voters at home, admittedly in small numbers, but when you add this to all of the other groups or occupations he has pissed off, this may have sealed the deal.  She has a point.  He has pissed off seniors (no COLA for 2 years, cuts to Medicare), the oil business (moratoriums), Catholics, bankers, coal industry, farmers, etc. etc. etc. 

I can't stand Steve Cohen.  He is an asshole.  In fact back in the days when he was pushing the lottery he put out that he wanted people to call his office and let him know what they thought.  I thought the lottery was a cool idea and called and left a message.  He called back but it went to voicemail.  So he left this message about how he was happy that I called blah blah blah and then hung up or so he thought.  Turns out my voicemail recorded this whole convo about how the voters were assholes and him and some female were laughing about it.  Guess what I did?  I turned the recording over to my local talk radio station and they busted him.  A few days later they called for me and him to faceoff.  The radio host asked "what do you think after hearing Mr. Cohen disparage the voters" to which I replied "Well we are his employer and if my employee called me an asshole I would fire them".  Of course the POS didn't resign or apologize.






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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2012, 08:36:14 PM »
^That's beautiful Gina. The only thing that would be more beautiful is if you could have ousted him with no severance, retirement or any other compensation.
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