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“I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World News with Diane Sawyer

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Can you explain why?

Because even in uber-liberal enclaves like Commiefornuckistan, gay marriage amendments have failed every time they've been put on the ballot.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

While most people are going to vote with their wallets in November, this is just another few points for Romney.
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Only that moron could take so many words to say " I personally support queers getting married."

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Ok, that is what I was thinking but I like to hear it from other's too in case I didn't think of something.






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Only that moron could take so many words to say " I personally support queers getting married."

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Obama has now officially mounted a rear guard action for 2012.   :sheep:
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Because even in uber-liberal enclaves like Commiefornuckistan, gay marriage amendments have failed every time they've been put on the ballot.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

While most people are going to vote with their wallets in November, this is just another few points for Romney.

Bingo.
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Because even in uber-liberal enclaves like Commiefornuckistan, gay marriage amendments have failed every time they've been put on the ballot.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

While most people are going to vote with their wallets in November, this is just another few points for Romney.

I'm just not convinced that the average Joe Schmuckitelli honestly gives a shit whether or not Bob and Dick get married. It's not an issue that directly confronts Joe. Granted, when it's on the ballot and it's time to confront that issue from a voting perspective, sure, Joe puts his thumb down.

But as a campaign issue? I dunno, though I certainly hope that Barry is hammered on it again and again and again.

I hope I'm wrong. There is going to be plenty of ugly going around during the last months of this campaign......
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Can you explain why?

Certainly.......the USS Faggot has sailed over the horizon some time ago.  Thirty one of fifty states have overwhelmingly banned homosexual marriage........the voters have spoken on this issue, EVERY time it has been placed before them.

Sitting on the fence until his pants ripped was his best bet for the election.......he's now just pissed of millions of voters  (Christian Democrats, particularly the Catholics that he hasn't already pissed off, religious blacks, the rednecks).......he's just put a sizable hole in his campaign vessel......if it wasn't taking a hell of a lot of water before, it certainly is now.....

The pro-gay marriage bunch were never going to vote for anyone else but him anyway.......he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....this is an act of political panic......based solely on results from a state that he not only won in 2008, but needs again in November.......he must be seeing some seriously bad internal poll numbers that are telling him that even his liberal base is eroding.

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 02:33:21 PM »
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he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it
  That's it in a nutshell.  Just a bad calculation; but hey Barry, go for it. 

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 02:40:34 PM »
he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

Yup.  The black Christian churches may give ol' Barry some lip service in public, but once they go into the voting booth, they're in private.  The Romney camp would do well to continue to hammer this leading up to the election.  I think it could be worth 2-3 percentage points, at the least.  As Doc correctly observes, the pro-gay-wedding crowd was never going to vote for Romney anyway.  This is going to cause a couple more independents to get off the fence and vote for Romney, and cause some of the more business-oriented members of the black Christian community to jump ship and vote for Romney (not very likely), or just not vote in November (far more likely).
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 03:17:25 PM »
I can only guess that after the beating Obama & the Dems took yesterday, Obama decided to Hail-Mary his campaign by going hard left.

Excellent.

I assume if he is going to go down in flames, he wants the history books to remember him as a great progressive who -unfortunately- was ahead of his time.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 03:19:12 PM »
Yup.  The black Christian churches may give ol' Barry some lip service in public, but once they go into the voting booth, they're in private.  The Romney camp would do well to continue to hammer this leading up to the election.  I think it could be worth 2-3 percentage points, at the least.  As Doc correctly observes, the pro-gay-wedding crowd was never going to vote for Romney anyway.  This is going to cause a couple more independents to get off the fence and vote for Romney, and cause some of the more business-oriented members of the black Christian community to jump ship and vote for Romney (not very likely), or just not vote in November (far more likely).

That will only go so far.  Romney and the GOP also need to hit Obama on how much worse the blacks, along with everyone else have fared under Obama.  The unemployment for blacks is still way higher than average, and that higher unemployment leads to more crime and other problems in the black communities.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 03:25:00 PM »
Or Maybe Michelle needs to know something. Has Obie been hanging out with Scientologists?

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 03:36:41 PM »
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 04:09:26 PM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/299497/obama-same-sex-couples-should-be-able-get-married-daniel-foster

Obama just sealed his loss this November.

I doubt that it will make any difference at all. He already had the homo vote, he didn't turn white so he'll still have the black vote and he's already been forgiven for flipping on any campaign promises. It's really a safe position for him to take, he can't do anything about queer marriage anyway, it's a states issue as he said in his announcement.

He certainly hasn't changed my vote.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 04:20:58 PM »
I doubt that it will make any difference at all. He already had the homo vote, he didn't turn white so he'll still have the black vote and he's already been forgiven for flipping on any campaign promises. It's really a safe position for him to take, he can't do anything about queer marriage anyway, it's a states issue as he said in his announcement.

He certainly hasn't changed my vote.

It's the economy stupid.

A percentage point here, a percentage point there...it could matter in a very close election. If it costs him even 1.5% of the vote in Ohio, for example, that could mean something. I'm also dying to see him fight House Republicans on the defense budget, with him fighting for the automatic "sequestration." Independents are mostly pretty strong on defense (except, of course, for Ronulans).

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 04:25:05 PM »
Distract! Distract! Distract!

If 0bama runs on his record, he loses.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2012, 04:31:09 PM »
This is just a distraction. Also, didn't Obama say in 2008 that he was against gay marriage, claiming his "Christian" faith led him to feel that way? Yet another thing the bigot lied about.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 04:48:14 PM »
It doesn't make any difference, anyway. It's up to each state to determine it's own destiny.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 04:59:57 PM »
Certainly.......the USS Faggot has sailed over the horizon some time ago.  Thirty one of fifty states have overwhelmingly banned homosexual marriage........the voters have spoken on this issue, EVERY time it has been placed before them.

Sitting on the fence until his pants ripped was his best bet for the election.......he's now just pissed of millions of voters  (Christian Democrats, particularly the Catholics that he hasn't already pissed off, religious blacks, the rednecks).......he's just put a sizable hole in his campaign vessel......if it wasn't taking a hell of a lot of water before, it certainly is now.....

The pro-gay marriage bunch were never going to vote for anyone else but him anyway.......he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....this is an act of political panic......based solely on results from a state that he not only won in 2008, but needs again in November.......he must be seeing some seriously bad internal poll numbers that are telling him that even his liberal base is eroding.

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

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The one thing it does do is bring a very large amount of gay money into his campaign, when it otherwise looked to be in danger of staying on the sidelines even if the gays did resignedly turn out for him.  One thing about gay households is that they do tend to have a relatively larger amount of disposable income, being as how there generally aren't any kids to raise.
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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 05:21:41 PM »
The one thing it does do is bring a very large amount of gay money into his campaign, when it otherwise looked to be in danger of staying on the sidelines even if the gays did resignedly turn out for him.  One thing about gay households is that they do tend to have a relatively larger amount of disposable income, being as how there generally aren't any kids to raise.

True, however such a tiny fragment of the population stacked up against what Citizens United unleashed will be spit in a bucket........I doubt that all that Wall Street and corporate money is going to fall into his coffers this time.  He's having difficulty raising money even at this point in the campaign.

His minions bragged about raising a billion......he'll be lucky to end up with half of that......his fundraisers have been poorly attended so far......but it's early.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 06:37:08 PM »
I'm watching Obama jump through hoops just to keep his base happy. His base wants crazy stuff that no one else wants. The independents have left him, as have many middle class dems.

democrats have divided their constituency into bite size groups to pander and play against each other.  That coalition seems to be fragmenting. Will Hispanics go for Obama with his attacks on the Church? The economy is driving many illegals back to Mexico...no jobs means no fraudulent votes from them.

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Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2012, 07:41:38 PM »
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