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Poverty In America
« on: July 19, 2011, 10:59:09 AM »
No way this will be posted at DU so I thought I'd post it here for the lurkers:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272081/modern-poverty-includes-ac-and-xbox-ken-mcintyre

A more detailed analysis:

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/07/what-is-poverty

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Modern Poverty Includes A.C. and an Xbox
July 18, 2011 10:39 A.M.
By Ken McIntyre

When Americans think of poverty, we tend to picture people who can’t adequately shelter, clothe, and feed themselves or their families.

When the Census Bureau defines “poverty,” though, it winds up painting more than 40 million Americans — one in seven — as “poor.”

Census officials continue to grossly exaggerate the numbers of the poor, creating a false picture in the public mind of widespread material deprivation, writes Heritage Foundation senior research fellow Robert Rector in a new paper.

“Most news stories on poverty feature homeless families, people living in crumbling shacks, or lines of the downtrodden eating in soup kitchens,” Rector says. “The actual living conditions of America’s poor are far different from these images.”

Congress is tying itself in knots figuring out how to cut spending and bring down a $14 trillion national debt. Lawmakers might well take a much closer look at the nearly a trillion dollars spent each year on welfare even though many recipients aren’t what the typical American would recognize as poor and in need of government assistance.

What is poverty? Americans might well be surprised to learn from other government data that the overwhelming majority of those defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau were well-housed and adequately fed even in the recession year 2009. About 4 percent of them did temporarily become homeless.

Data from the Department of Energy and other agencies show that the average poor family, as defined by Census officials:

● Lives in a home that is in good repair, not crowded, and equipped with air conditioning, clothes washer and dryer, and cable or satellite TV service.

● Prepares meals in a kitchen with a refrigerator, coffee maker and microwave as well as oven and stove.

● Enjoys two color TVs, a DVD player, VCR and — if children are there — an Xbox, PlayStation, or other video game system.

● Had enough money in the past year to meet essential needs, including adequate food and medical care.



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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 11:04:08 AM »
I know I've said this here before but I'll say it again.  When I was in my 20's and early 30's I traveled around building water towers/tanks and was paid well for my work.  I lived in a travel trailer duing that time.  When the census rolled around I was shocked to learn that I was a statistic.  I was 'homeless'.

Since that time I've been very skeptical of government studies.

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 11:13:25 AM »
Hell, I don't have half that crap on the list.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 11:36:23 AM »
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 12:14:24 PM »
I don't have a third on that list!!!
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 12:22:58 PM »
Remember that the DUches are all about euro socialism. The average poor person under the evil capitalist system of the USA lives in a larger domicile than the average euro.

Capitalism, the worst economic system ever....except for all the others.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 12:35:54 PM »
We have everything but 2 things on that list, but a lot of things on that list we have was bought years ago or they were given to us by relatives because the relatives were upgrading.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 12:51:38 PM »
I have 16 out of 30.  Quite an eye-opening list. 

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 12:53:27 PM »
There are 13 on the list we don't have, maybe 14 depending on what qualifies as a big screen TV. Our two TVs are only 32".

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 12:58:13 PM »
I was wandering through Wally World the other week and noticed they were still selling new VCRs.  Doesn't make much sense when you can't buy new movies for them.

I have a 15-year old CRT television and a VCR.  The TV is almost due to be replaced, but I can't bring myself to spend the money.  It's just not that important.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 01:00:29 PM »
Twenty-nine.
Gotta get a Jacuzzi, so I can report a clean sweep to the DUmp.
The last time I had a bathroom redone, I wanted to add a Jacuzzi, but it got voted down, 1-1.

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 01:12:17 PM »
Twenty-nine.
Gotta get a Jacuzzi, so I can report a clean sweep to the DUmp.
The last time I had a bathroom redone, I wanted to add a Jacuzzi, but it got voted down, 1-1.

Guess we know who wears the pants in that house. :-)

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 01:19:54 PM »
Guess we know who wears the pants in that house.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 01:25:27 PM »
Sounds like a good portion of the poor are living "better" than I am, have 9 items on that list.  I'm not complaining though, I like my life.   :-)

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 03:06:18 PM »
Twenty-nine.
Gotta get a Jacuzzi, so I can report a clean sweep to the DUmp.
The last time I had a bathroom redone, I wanted to add a Jacuzzi, but it got voted down, 1-1.

Same here, 28 of 30.  We don't have or need a 2nd fridge, and the jacuzzi is a dream for down the road a bit.

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 03:20:07 PM »
Same here, 28 of 30.  We don't have or need a 2nd fridge, and the jacuzzi is a dream for down the road a bit.
The second refrigerator is really an old one in the garage that we replaced before it failed. Years later, it still runs perfectly.
I only use it if we have an unusual amount of beer or soft drinks, and sometimes the remainder of a watermelon or
Thanksgiving turkey. It's an unnecessary appliance, but comes in handy from time to time.

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 03:41:59 PM »
 :mad: :mad: :mad:There are only four things on that list I would consider a necessity and a fifth which is not mentioned. Refrigerator, oven/stove, Ac(actually a fan works fine, unless you live in a hot state) and a heating element(For those  who live in cold states) and a phone either cell or landline for 911 calls. Everything else is a luxury!!!! If one can afford an xbox or a WII, There is something wrong with their priorities!!
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 03:42:38 PM »
Only 48.6% have a coffeemaker?

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 03:46:05 PM »
Only 48.6% have a coffeemaker?

WHAT THE HELL!


The rest go to $tarbuck$ .

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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 03:53:13 PM »
Or Dunkin Donuts
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2011, 04:12:55 PM »
Only 48.6% have a coffeemaker?

WHAT THE HELL!


Why would they need a coffee maker, DD? When you sleep till noon, finally get up to move to the couch to watch the daytime shows and start hitting the bong, you really don't need that jolt of caffeine. Besides... I imagine it interferes with the afternoon buzz. 
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2011, 04:14:06 PM »
Guess we know who wears the pants in that house. :-)


Well, with the jacuzzi, there woulden't be any...................... :naughty:
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2011, 04:16:10 PM »
The second refrigerator is really an old one in the garage that we replaced before it failed. Years later, it still runs perfectly.
I only use it if we have an unusual amount of beer or soft drinks, and sometimes the remainder of a watermelon or
Thanksgiving turkey. It's an unnecessary appliance, but comes in handy from time to time.

When my Mom moved in with us she brought her Refrigerator/Freezer, we never had a 2nd 1 but I have to say it comes in handy, we store mostly beer, water and soda in it, and my mom uses the freezer for the frozen food or meat she buys at the store. I really need an extra Freezer to stock up on meat and frozen food when there's a good sale.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2011, 04:26:07 PM »
We have 20 out of 30 on that list.

The stove, refrigerator, dishwasher, washer/dryer, and microwave came with the place.

No need for a second fridge, but I would like a separate freezer.  Ours is too small.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2011, 04:30:48 PM »
We have 20 out of 30 on that list.

The stove, refrigerator, dishwasher, washer/dryer, and microwave came with the place.

No need for a second fridge, but I would like a separate freezer.  Ours is too small.

I have a separate full size freezer and that thing is handy!!! It saves me boat loads of money cause I can buy meat and frozen stuff in bulk. I bet it has already paid for itself. Once it's packed up, it doesn't really cost that much to run. Only thing that I hate is I bought one that doesn't self defrost, they were a lot cheaper, so I have to defrost it once a year. That is a messy job.
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