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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2011, 04:31:07 PM »
Our dishwasher quit working very well, and we do our dishes by hand.  Had to wash half the stuff by hand before, anyway, because I refuse to entrust fine crystal, china or pots and pans to a machine.  Got rid of our landline phone and answering machine.  No jacuzzi, alas.  Other than that, we've got it all.  No one gave us a single thing either, except the refrigerator, stove/oven, and microwave that came with the home purchase.  It took years of hard work to get to where we are, financially, and now we're in danger of losing even more of the yearly income to idiotic Dimmie tax raises soon.  America isn't a place that rewards hard work, innovation, or playing by the rules of common decency any longer.  Rather, we've got a permanent "underprivileged" class, disproportionately the minority ethnic groups the Dims keep under their thumb by paying off with OUR tax money.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2011, 04:32:37 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on July 19, 2011, 04:30:48 PM
I have a separate full size freezer and that thing is handy!!! It saves me boat loads of money cause I can buy meat and frozen stuff in bulk. I bet it has already paid for itself. Once it's packed up, it doesn't really cost that much to run. Only thing that I hate is I bought one that doesn't self defrost, they were a lot cheaper, so I have to defrost it once a year. That is a messy job.

That's one of the main reasons I'd like a separate freezer.  Ours is pathetic and has no room for long time storing. 
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2011, 04:37:20 PM »
8 out of 30 here, and I'm doing quite nicely, thank you.

Government studies... good grief.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011, 05:09:37 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on July 19, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
That's one of the main reasons I'd like a separate freezer.  Ours is pathetic and has no room for long time storing. 

Well if you do get one make sure it's self defrosting!!!!  Well worth the money and they are pretty handy.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011, 06:27:05 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on July 19, 2011, 05:09:37 PM
Well if you do get one make sure it's self defrosting!!!!  Well worth the money and they are pretty handy.

Freezers are great things. Fill up on meats and frozen veggies. When Butcher shops have sales, that will make your dollar go farther. You could divide it put small portions in a bag with italian dressing or any other marinade.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2011, 06:28:36 PM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on July 19, 2011, 06:27:05 PM
Freezers are great things. Fill up on meats and frozen veggies. When Butcher shops have sales, that will make your dollar go farther. You could divide it put small portions in a bag with italian dressing or any other marinade.

Oh, you can actually put the dressing or marinade in the bag with say chicken and freeze it like that?
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2011, 06:31:54 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 19, 2011, 06:28:36 PM
Oh, you can actually put the dressing or marinade in the bag with say chicken and freeze it like that?
I do and have in the past. thaw then throw those little leggins right on the barbie!!!
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2011, 06:52:54 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 19, 2011, 06:28:36 PM
Oh, you can actually put the dressing or marinade in the bag with say chicken and freeze it like that?

I wouldn't do it with say Thousand Island or Ranch dressing. I've never done it myself. Don't see any reason why not though.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2011, 07:16:36 PM »
Thanks! for some reason I never thought to do that.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2011, 07:22:09 PM »
A separate freezer is one of the best appliances you can have. I use mine mainly for venison, but you can also get those huge packages of chicken or ribs at really cheap bulk prices, then divide it into freezer bags. We also keep a spare loaf of bread, hamburger and hot dog buns, extra butter, extra ice cream, lots of stuff that wouldn't fit into the freezer part of our refrigerator.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2011, 07:23:09 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on July 19, 2011, 06:52:54 PM
I wouldn't do it with say Thousand Island or Ranch dressing. I've never done it myself. Don't see any reason why not though.

Yeah I wouldn't do it with ranch or 1000isle either
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2011, 07:35:55 PM »
I really need to figure out a way to get my husband to agree to an upright freezer.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2011, 07:42:10 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 19, 2011, 07:35:55 PM
I really need to figure out a way to get my husband to agree to an upright freezer.

My friend had a chest freezer which was great.....I guess it depends on what kind of room you have.
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2011, 07:43:11 PM »
We don't have cable, home phone (cordless or answering machine), stereo, dishwasher, big screen TV, second fridge or jacuzzi. We do have a video game system, my 14 year old saved for 4 months to buy a PS 2 after her second PS1 quit.  We actually have 3 TV's, but 2 of them are nearly 20 years old...I gave my husband a 32" flat screen for our anniversary, his birthday and Father's Day so we could stream Netflix from his laptop.  It's nice to have a TV with more than just a coax connection finally.   :lmao:
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2011, 07:53:23 PM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on July 19, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
My friend had a chest freezer which was great.....I guess it depends on what kind of room you have.

I don't want to defrost though, don't you have to do that with chest freezers?
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2011, 07:58:29 PM »
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2011, 08:10:21 PM »
Quote from: jukin on July 19, 2011, 12:22:58 PM
Remember that the DUches are all about euro socialism. The average poor person under the evil capitalist system of the USA lives in a larger domicile than the average euro.
Bingo! You hit the nail right on the head here with the American and euro comparison.
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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2011, 08:10:55 PM »
Did Dude give us a shoutout?

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17. I bet I know who your friend is.
   
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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2011, 08:11:56 PM »
Nice to see a rational response:

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16. He does have part of a point at least.
   
It's not that 99% have a refrigerator, or 9X% having a washing machine and/or stove.

It IS the very significant proportion who have AC, and other power guzzling convenience/comfort appliances. Who have wallet draining subscriptions to cable and gaming services. (I will even allow an internet connection as a near necessity in this day and age, but a "pipe" capable of delivering video in real time and lag free gaming? Really?)

I used to do garrage/yard sales on a regular basis, and just as regularly I saw "poor" families disposing of perfectly good but outdated gaming consoles, televisions, VCRs, DVD players, Bread makers, Pizza ovens, etc. And as likely as not, if you asked why, the answer was an unembarrassed, "We've got something better/bigger now."

Meat and three veg for 1/2 the price of a fast food meal is very easy. Pasta meals are cheaper still.

A whole cryovac rump is not that expensive, cut it into steaks, a couple of roasts and put the trimmings through a food processor to make mince.

A good part of the problem today is that many do not know how to cook a meal, make minor repairs. And a good many who flat out will not settle for anything less than the latest and greatest.

And yes I am fully aware that another big part of the problem is that the world around these people and the people themselves have been deliberately re-engineered to make them skill poor, dependant on external services and demanding of worthless luxury. However, beyond a certain point these people have to actively cooperate in their own plight, nether the clown nor the colonel are holding a gun to their heads.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2011, 08:15:59 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 19, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
Did Dude give us a shoutout?
 

Probably, when one reads the whole campfire.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2011, 08:22:39 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 19, 2011, 07:53:23 PM
I don't want to defrost though, don't you have to do that with chest freezers?
I have to defrost mine, but it's a snap. I have a big cooler I got from WalMart, and each year, just before deer season, I fill it with everything left in the freezer. Then I unplug the freezer for a day or so with the door open, and then empty the melt water. I use a turkey baster to get the water out of some inaccessible spots. The stuff in the cooler is still hard as a rock when I put it back in.
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Re: Poverty In America
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2011, 08:44:50 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on July 19, 2011, 08:22:39 PM
I have to defrost mine, but it's a snap. I have a big cooler I got from WalMart, and each year, just before deer season, I fill it with everything left in the freezer. Then I unplug the freezer for a day or so with the door open, and then empty the melt water. I use a turkey baster to get the water out of some inaccessible spots. The stuff in the cooler is still hard as a rock when I put it back in.

I just picture the food all frozen over and you can't get to it if it isn't frost free.
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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2011, 08:49:24 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 19, 2011, 08:44:50 PM
I just picture the food all frozen over and you can't get to it if it isn't frost free.
Nope, zero ice on the packages of food. It collects mainly around the tubing that carries the refrigerant.
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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2011, 09:18:17 PM »
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And a good many who flat out will not settle for anything less than the latest and greatest.

Like the infamous Bobo.  She's homeless, yet owns an iPhone.
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