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In a statement issued Friday night, President Obama took issue with some provisions in the budget bill – and in one case simply says he will not abide by it.

Last week the White House and congressional Democrats and Republicans were involved in intense negotiations over not only the size of the budget for the remainder of the FY2011 budget, and spending cuts within that budget, but also several GOP “riders,” or policy provisions attached to the bill.

One rider – Section 2262 — de-funds certain White House adviser positions – or “czars.” The president in his signing statement declares that he will not abide by it.

“The President has well-established authority to supervise and oversee the executive branch, and to obtain advice in furtherance of this supervisory authority,” he wrote. “The President also has the prerogative to obtain advice that will assist him in carrying out his constitutional responsibilities, and do so not only from executive branch officials and employees outside the White House, but also from advisers within it. Legislative efforts that significantly impede the President’s ability to exercise his supervisory and coordinating authorities or to obtain the views of the appropriate senior advisers violate the separation of powers by undermining the President’s ability to exercise his constitutional responsibilities and take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”

Therefore, the president wrote, “the executive branch will construe section 2262 not to abrogate these Presidential prerogatives.”

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Make Obama or any other POTUS for that matter, pay for their "czars" out of their own pocket.

Hell, make them pay for their entire support staff that way.  Goes for congress too.
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Make Obama or any other POTUS for that matter, pay for their "czars" out of their own pocket.

Hell, make them pay for their entire support staff that way.  Goes for congress too.

Hi,

I have already written both my members of congress on this.  They must FORCE his hand.  Until the czars and staff are gone, offices cleaned out etc. the debt cieling will not be raised period. 

This could be a big win for republicans because the public is not really in favor of the czars anyway. 

When you negotiate with a person who does not keep their word, meaning they are not negotiating in good faith, you have a real problem.  In private industry you put in controls to force compliance.  In this case, the president has shown he is not a man of his word.  I once asked my son-in-law about a new mutual acquaintence and he flat looked at me and said, "He cheats at golf".  Didn't need to say much more.

The fact that the president does not negotiate in good faith should rankle the hell out of both sides of the aisle in congress.  All should stop until he is forced to comply with what he agreed to.

It certainly tells me just what kind of person he is. 

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I don't think that Boehner has the spine to force Obama's hand.
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Scalise says Obama violates Constitution over 'czars'

Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the chief sponsor of the effort to defund administration-appointed advisers known as "czars," reacted angrily Saturday to a signing statement from Obama saying he plans to keep them. In a statement emailed to The Hill, Scalise accused Obama of acting like a “dictator.”

"President Obama should know that it is the courts, not the executive branch, that has the authority to determine the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress, especially considering that he agreed to this provision and signed the law himself," Scalise said in an emailed statement.

"The President does not have the option of choosing which laws he will follow and which he will ignore,” he continued. >>> Scalise was the sponsor of HR 59, the Sunset All Czars act which had 53 cosponsors. >>> "It's not surprising that the White House, having bypassed Congress to empower these 'Czars' is objecting to eliminating them," Michael Steel, spokesman for Boehner said.

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I see rank and file elected Republicans trying to take this little dictator to task at every turn ... meanwhile our feckless 'leadership' staunchly obstructs us in the breach. So what the heck is this Republican 'leadership' doing other than obstructing our tea party candidates and kissing the butt of the Democrats? They cant seem to wait till the 2012 elections (so that 'we' can take back the Senate and make their jobs easier). Well, I cant wait either. I cant wait to throw their sorry apologetic asses out and get some real leaders in there. The stakes are too high for this sort of nonsense.
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What in the?   What does this have to do with Boehner again? 

Who are you replacing incumbent Republicans with?  you have a posse waiting in the wings to take an incumbent (R) on?  links?

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AUDIENCE MEMBER: When Congress offers you a bill, do you promise not to use presidential signings to get your way?

OBAMA: “Yes… This is part of the whole theory of George Bush that he can make laws as he is going along. I disagree with that. I taught the Constitution for 10 years. I believe in the Constitution and I will obey the Constitution of the United States. We are not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end run around Congress. All right?”

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Except the czars of course..........

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What in the?   What does this have to do with Boehner again? 

Who are you replacing incumbent Republicans with?  you have a posse waiting in the wings to take an incumbent (R) on?  links?

Was Planned Parenthood defunded. Nope
Was NPR defunded. Nope
Did the House get to vote on 100 billion cuts. Nope

Boehner is a weakling. We need a Republician who will stand up to the President and tell him we won and we are going to pass legislation that the voters want not what you want. I don't know if there is such a critter in the House of R.

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Was Planned Parenthood defunded. Nope
Was NPR defunded. Nope
Did the House get to vote on 100 billion cuts. Nope

Boehner is a weakling. We need a Republician who will stand up to the President and tell him we won and we are going to pass legislation that the voters want not what you want. I don't know if there is such a critter in the House of R.

The government would have been shut down = political suicide for 2012. 

But he would have showed him right? 

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The government would have been shut down = political suicide for 2012. 

But he would have showed him right? 

Who would have been hurt if the shut down was over funding for abortions?  Boehner should have been hammering Obama on that issue.  Hell, McCain  should have hammered Obama on being pro murder during the campaign, for that matter.

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Who would have been hurt if the shut down was over funding for abortions?  Boehner should have been hammering Obama on that issue.  Hell, McCain  should have hammered Obama on being pro murder during the campaign, for that matter.

The GOP would have been hurt. 


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Well, that'll leave a mark... assuming the GOP candidate has a pair and decides to use it

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You dont take the only weapon you have and throw it off the damn table... who the hell does that? Boehner took shutting the govt down off the table before the talks even started. How are you going to 'pull the trigger' if youve thrown the only 'gun' you had away? And thats not the worst part. Now we have nothing ... we have to bargain from weakness from here on out in all future talks. Its pathetic!

You only live once. To be courageous, or be a coward. To stand for your family, or not. To stand for your country, or not. We not only know where Boehner stands .. or sits. But so does the pathological liar in chief who now 'owns' Boehner.

Who knows if shutting down the govt would have been worse for Republicans. I think not if we had had anybody up their who was passionate enough about saving this great Republic on Capital Hill, to educate and rally the voters. Especially on our side. I think we DO have such representatives. We would have supported and stood with him/her from corners he/she doesnt even know exist. But Boehner is not one of them/us. He is a very, very small man. Worried more about his own political fortunes than the future of this Great Nation.

He will never advance now. He will only go down hill from here. He has no idea of who he is dealing with in the marxist pathological liar Obama. He is not Carter. He is not Clinton. This is NOT business as usual. Obama IS diabolical. I pray Boehner doesnt take us down with him .. before we can find a proper replacement. Because this is NOT just politics.  We are on the very edge of losing everything.

This is not hyperbole. And I hope and pray that the ones who do not understand this do not get in the way. Its hard enough fighting this POS and the POS Party from fundamentally screwing this nation forever w/o a bunch of wimpy 'moderates' and country club blue blood types tripping us up every chance they get.
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You dont take the only weapon you have and throw it off the damn table... who the hell does that? Boehner took shutting the govt down off the table before the talks even started. How are you going to 'pull the trigger' if youve thrown the only 'gun' you had away? And thats not the worst part. Now we have nothing ... we have to bargain from weakness from here on out in all future talks. Its pathetic!

You only live once. To be courageous, or be a coward. To stand for your family, or not. To stand for your country, or not. We not only know where Boehner stands .. or sits. But so does the pathological liar in chief who now 'owns' Boehner.

Who knows if shutting down the govt would have been worse for Republicans. I think not if we had had anybody up their who was passionate enough about saving this great Republic on Capital Hill, to educate and rally the voters. Especially on our side. I think we DO have such representatives. We would have supported and stood with him/her from corners he/she doesnt even know exist. But Boehner is not one of them/us. He is a very, very small man. Worried more about his own political fortunes than the future of this Great Nation.

He will never advance now. He will only go down hill from here. He has no idea of who he is dealing with in the marxist pathological liar Obama. He is not Carter. He is not Clinton. This is NOT business as usual. Obama IS diabolical. I pray Boehner doesnt take us down with him .. before we can find a proper replacement. Because this is NOT just politics.  We are on the very edge of losing everything.

This is not hyperbole. And I hope and pray that the ones who do not understand this do not get in the way. Its hard enough fighting this POS and the POS Party from fundamentally screwing this nation forever w/o a bunch of wimpy 'moderates' and country club blue blood types tripping us up every chance they get.

Well said. Obama and the Democrats know that Boehner is a wimp. Most Repubs in the Senate and the House think they can negotiate with Democraps. They are wrong. Obama will knife them in the back every chance he gets. Even a one eyed blind drunken retard can see that. However, these old dog Repubs think it can be done. Our only hope is for the Tea Party Repubs to stand firm and hope for the best for the next 20 plus months.

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You dont take the only weapon you have and throw it off the damn table... who the hell does that?

The premise of your argument is flawed.  The government shutdown was the weapon of the president, not the GOP.   

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The premise of your argument is flawed.  The government shutdown was the weapon of the president, not the GOP.   

Don't forget the US military not being paid.  I know for a fact that would've been heaped on the Republicans even though the Demonrats were using the military as pawns.
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Don't forget the US military not being paid.  I know for a fact that would've been heaped on the Republicans even though the Demonrats were using the military as pawns.

Exactly.   The media was poised ready to go after the GOP on the shutdown.   Clinton used that to his full political advantage, Obama would have been no different.

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The GOP would have been hurt. 



Hi,

IMO the GOP will not be hurt if they call Obama out on this one.  The majority of the public is not pleased with the czars to begin with.  There should be a huge PR program about the fact his word is not his bond and force him to comply with the law, along with a court case asking for an injunction to stop the czars.  Sooner or later the republicans, with or without Boehner, have to stand up to the president and take the heat.

I mentioned somewhere where I had asked my son in law about a new mutual acquaintence.  His comment to me was "he cheats at golf".  Now I do not even play golf but there was nothing more needed to be said.  Well BO does not honor his deals, his word is not his bond, it is worthless.  That sends shock waves throughout the world.  Could you negotiate a treaty with him knowing that he does not honor his deals?  What happens when they try to negotiate the next budget deal or the raising of the debt cieling if he is not called on this right now and held accountable?

Scott Walker had the balls to stand up for what he believes is right, and what he was elected to do, regardless of the squak put up by the other side.  Boehner doesn't get it.  No substiantial change the conservatives want is going to be easy, nor is it going to be supported by the mainstream media.  So what's new??  Get on with the job for crying out loud.

You can defend Boehner all you want but bottom line is simple.  To this point he is not getting the job done that the majority of conservatives want or envisioned.   It he republicans are not calling Obama out on this issue right now, that means they can and will accept that behavior in the future.  Case closed Obama wins and our election efforts are down the drain.

I wrote my new republican congressman a blistering letter for voting for the budget plan.  I met him and talked with him at length when he was running and he succumed to the party pressure.  That is BS, that is not what he campaigned on and a lot of folks are going to hold him accountable.

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My comment was referring to a government shutdown.   

I can defend Boehner all I want?  well thanks for your permission.    I am not defending anyone.  Simply stating facts, which elude many it seems.

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The premise of your argument is flawed.  The government shutdown was the weapon of the president, not the GOP.   

Facts eh? The weapon of the president? I suppose King Stinky holds all the cards doesnt he? Spending doesnt originate in the House does it? Oh... thats right... its only 1/2 of 1/3 of the govt. I say BS. Are we gonna fight this guy.. or worry about mussin up our pretty hair or somethin? They wield more power than they even know. And now ... apparently we shall never see. I guarantee you Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann got more stones in their pinky fingers than Boehners got in his whole artificially tanned body.

If you listen to the MSNews media, assorted leftists and 'moderate' pundits... yeah, I suppose your right. But I wonder whos side they are on? Their Messiah's .. or conservatives? I guess Boehner can now go back to the sun tan parlor so he looks cool for the next 'battle of the titans'. Or should I say titan (singular)?

I guess it depends upon your perspective and who or what you wanna believe. We shall surely have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Janice is right.Until the 2012 elections we might never get anything done as long as the House caves in and the dictator in chief decides what laws he will and won't follow.
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Janice is right.Until the 2012 elections we might never get anything done as long as the House caves in and the dictator in chief decides what laws he will and won't follow.

Hi,

If Boehner does not call out Obama on this one it is Katie bar the door.  He either honors his agreements or shut it down until he does.

And Formerlerker you can defend Boehner all you want even if you are wrong, that is OK you have my permission.  The facts are that Boehner caved, was a lousy negotiator and has absolutely sold the tea party folks down the drain.  Newt would have been in Obama's face, called him out and won.

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