Oh... the Irony...

[bkg]

2008: Obama Wins

Democrats: This is a referendum on the Bush administration!
Republicans: BULLSHIT!

2009: Brown Wins

Republicans: This is referendum on the Obama administration!


C'mon people... Really?  

EDIT: Modified the title - "irony" is more appropriate. And I think the word "hypocricy," while IMHO apporpriate in many senses, is likely a tad too strong for many, so consider it edited.

[Chris]

[TheSarge]

Yeah me too.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Jeeze, give it a rest already, you're starting to sound like a DUer playing the race card.

[bkg]

Jeeze, give it a rest already, you're starting to sound like a DUer playing the race card.

Why? Why not point out the facts? What are you afraid of?

All the dems called Obama's election as a referendum... GOP claimed that was crap. Now they're claming this is a referendum. You don't see the irony in that at all? 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

People bought Obama's lies.

We called the lies for what they were: lies

[Carl]

Or one can waste time trying to piss in everyones oatmeal.

Sheesh dude,try to have a little bit of positive outlook in a positive event.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Why? Why not point out the facts? What are you afraid of?

All the dems called Obama's election as a referendum... GOP claimed that was crap. Now they're claming this is a referendum. You don't see the irony in that at all? 

Nothing on the internet, that's for damn' sure.  I just think you're making kind of a fool of yourself with the incessant GOP bashing, and I'm trying to reel you back in from the edge.  But suit yourself. 

[BEG]

Charles Johnson is that you?   







Just kidding.   

[bkg]

Nothing on the internet, that's for damn' sure.  I just think you're making kind of a fool of yourself with the incessant GOP bashing, and I'm trying to reel you back in from the edge.  But suit yourself. 

Like I said a long time ago, I'm not a Republican. I'm a conservative. Seems people here, on CONSERVATIVE cave, get a little senstive about the GOP.

You and I will have to disagree. I think it's foolish to support the GOP with the trackrecord they have, you think it's foolish that I don't.

MSB - I agree. But we're also learning more about Mr. Brown. For now, it's a could be a tactical win, and a very important one. And it's a huge message to the MA state gov't. But it remains to be seen if he will stick to his campaign promises. 

Unlike others, I will not go celebrate in the streets - the war has not been won. It hasn't even started.

[Carl]

Like I said a long time ago, I'm not a Republican. I'm a conservative. Seems people here, on CONSERVATIVE cave, get a little senstive about the GOP.

You and I will have to disagree. I think it's foolish to support the GOP with the trackrecord they have, you think it's foolish that I don't.

MSB - I agree. But we're also learning more about Mr. Brown. For now, it's a could be a tactical win, and a very important one. And it's a huge message to the MA state gov't. But it remains to be seen if he will stick to his campaign promises. 

Unlike others, I will not go celebrate in the streets - the war has not been won. It hasn't even started.

You are entitled to your opinion but it does seem that you are almost miffed that this happened.
Not saying you prefer to have a Kennedy clone but that you have spent all day dissing Brown seems to be more because he won under the (despised by you) banner of the Republican party then some break away 3rd party.

Maybe you just want to sit on the sideline no matter what happens and complain too.

[bkg]

You are entitled to your opinion but it does seem that you are almost miffed that this happened.
Not saying you prefer to have a Kennedy clone but that you have spent all day dissing Brown seems to be more because he won under the (despised by you) banner of the Republican party then some break away 3rd party.

Maybe you just want to sit on the sideline no matter what happens and complain too.

Not miffed at all. Just find it utterly hilarious how the Right bitches about the Left's spin... and then does the exact same thing.

Sit on sideline.. 

[Carl]

Not miffed at all. Just find it utterly hilarious how the Right bitches about the Left's spin... and then does the exact same thing.

Sit on sideline.. 

You make your own evidence and everyone can draw their own opinions from that. 

[formerlurker]

Not miffed at all. Just find it utterly hilarious how the Right bitches about the Left's spin... and then does the exact same thing.

Sit on sideline.. 

It's not a spin.  The entire women's glass ceiling, Coakley's campaign did this to themselves, yada yada is all damage control.  This is MA.  Statewide election for federal seat = Democrat victory.   Period.    Witness John Kerry -- the biggest elitist bore this commonwealth has ever seen.  Zero personality.  Conducts his campaigns pretty much step for step how Coakley did her campaign.   Wins in a landslide again and again. 

The Democrats and unenrolled (which you would refer to as Independents) had quite enough of Obamacare and the super majority.   They did this.   You don't get 1.1 million folks to head out in a snow/ice storm to stand in line to vote for Brown because Coakley ran a bad campaign.   That explanation is not only lame as all get out, it is incredibly ignorant. 

Message sent to the country from non-conservatives.  See the folks that the "real conservatves" take great lengths to make snarky comments about, accomplished what the "real conservatives" could not do.  They are the changemakers.   You are not.

Carl nailed it with the whining on the sidelines comment.  Ya ain't happy unless you are complaining.

[DixieBelle]

^well said.

And LOVE your sig pic!!

[bkg]

It's not a spin.  The entire women's glass ceiling, Coakley's campaign did this to themselves, yada yada is all damage control.  This is MA.  Statewide election for federal seat = Democrat victory.   Period.    Witness John Kerry -- the biggest elitist bore this commonwealth has ever seen.  Zero personality.  Conducts his campaigns pretty much step for step how Coakley did her campaign.   Wins in a landslide again and again. 

Excellent point.

The Democrats and unenrolled (which you would refer to as Independents) had quite enough of Obamacare and the super majority.   They did this.   You don't get 1.1 million folks to head out in a snow/ice storm to stand in line to vote for Brown because Coakley ran a bad campaign.   That explanation is not only lame as all get out, it is incredibly ignorant. 

I concur with the last statement - agree. Which, to my point, is very similar to statements made about McCain/Obama.

Message sent to the country from non-conservatives.  See the folks that the "real conservatves" take great lengths to make snarky comments about, accomplished what the "real conservatives" could not do.  They are the changemakers.   You are not.

I never claimed to be a change maker... But I agree with the rest of this paragraph - it's not the ultra right or ultra left who will make the differences at the polls.

Carl nailed it with the whining on the sidelines comment.  Ya ain't happy unless you are complaining.

Still don't get the sidelines comment. Is that because I'm not from MA? Seriously, it makes no sense. As for complaining - it's called an observation. And I'm now observing that it's annoying some people for some reason. Republicans are always saying to NOT act like the left. And now that's exactly what they(we) are doing. No one sees irony in the fact that it's all spun around a perspective. Oh well.

[Hawkgirl]

The outcome of the Massachussetts senate race is a direct rejection of the Obama regime and it's policies.

[formerlurker]

I concur with the last statement - agree. Which, to my point, is very similar to statements made about McCain/Obama.

I don't think it is a valid comparison to compare a senate race in a deep blue state where Republicans very rarely win, to a presidential campaign.   

I never claimed to be a change maker...

No, you just like to complain make observations about things.  I was just making an observation.   

Still don't get the sidelines comment. Is that because I'm not from MA? Seriously, it makes no sense.

There are two kinds of people in the world.  Those who bitch from the sidelines, and those who go about fixing the problem/issue - being a part of the solution.   Your "why vote GOP back in" thread is pretty much testament to that.   

Republicans are always saying to NOT act like the left. And now that's exactly what they(we) are doing. No one sees irony in the fact that it's all spun around a perspective. Oh well.

Oh poor you. I would consider buying this passive aggressive bullshit if you made your "observations" about ten days or so when Brown starting surging n the polls and pretty much every single article and comment here involved this surge is directly related to independents being disenchanted with Obama, Obamacare and the super majority.   You waited until Brown actually pulled of a win -- you are clearly the one who is annoyed. 

[Aaron Burr]

Hmmm. I'm a Conservative and I haven't been real happy with the GOP. I make a lot snarky comments about them but I know which side of the toast my butters on. By which I mean, I too realize that Conservatives don't make up the majority of the American electorate.

But damn. I'll take what I can get. So I'm happy that the self proclaimed moderate Republican won. And if it pisses off the lefties...then sure, it was a referendum on Uncle'bom.

But I'm still not sending the GOP any dough. I'll just keep supporting individual Conservative candidates one by one. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.

Eventually we'll get it right.

[bkg]

Hmmm. I'm a Conservative and I haven't been real happy with the GOP. I make a lot snarky comments about them but I know which side of the toast my butters on. By which I mean, I too realize that Conservatives don't make up the majority of the American electorate.

But damn. I'll take what I can get. So I'm happy that the self proclaimed moderate Republican won. And if it pisses off the lefties...then sure, it was a referendum on Uncle'bom.

But I'm still not sending the GOP any dough. I'll just keep supporting individual Conservative candidates one by one. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.

Eventually we'll get it right.

With this, I agree 100%.

[bkg]

I don't think it is a valid comparison to compare a senate race in a deep blue state where Republicans very rarely win, to a presidential campaign.   

Like I said, i think you have a point.

No, you just like to complain make observations about things.  I was just making an observation.   

Call it whatever works for you. I just think the predictability is entertaining.

There are two kinds of people in the world.  Those who bitch from the sidelines, and those who go about fixing the problem/issue - being a part of the solution.   Your "why vote GOP back in" thread is pretty much testament to that.   

I would tend to agree. Those that sit from the sidelines are the ones doing nothing to promote conservative candidates... they prefer the GOP candidate.

Oh poor you. I would consider buying this passive aggressive bullshit if you made your "observations" about ten days or so when Brown starting surging n the polls and pretty much every single article and comment here involved this surge is directly related to independents being disenchanted with Obama, Obamacare and the super majority.   You waited until Brown actually pulled of a win -- you are clearly the one who is annoyed. 

I have no idea what the fawk you're talking about there. And BTW... it's hard to note that the GOP/Pundits are pulling the same thing the DNC/PUndits did at the in 08 until AFTER the election. Funny how that works.    For the last time, I'm not annoyed at anything...

And BTW - I'm been traveling almost non-stop during the election phase, so if you're honestly going to say my comments are not "buyable" because I haven't been posting, then you win the funny of the day. 

[formerlurker]

Like I said, i think you have a point...... I just think the predictability is entertaining.

You have a point the two are not a valid comparison, so the predictability of what is entertaining?   It's not a valid comparison.

I would tend to agree. Those that sit from the sidelines are the ones doing nothing to promote conservative candidates... they prefer the GOP candidate.

Prefer the GOP candidate?    Nice reach, but not quite there are you?

I have no idea what the fawk you're talking about there. And BTW... it's hard to note that the GOP/Pundits are pulling the same thing the DNC/PUndits did at the in 08 until AFTER the election. Funny how that works.    For the last time, I'm not annoyed at anything...

Oh my, there are rules to whining?   My bad.   The same commentary was made prior to the win, but you being the good real conservative waited until AFTER the win to note the predictability.   Think of all the entertainment you denied yourself.... nevermind it wasn't a valid comparison.

And BTW - I'm been traveling almost non-stop during the election phase, so if you're honestly going to say my comments are not "buyable" because I haven't been posting, then you win the funny of the day.  

You posted a hell of a lot on the 18th and yesterday.  Just decided to skip those threads though.... waiting waiting until AFTER the election.  Whiners rules and all.

[RightCoast]

Although I don't think this election was a direct repudiation of barack, I will say that Brown was elected - IMHO - because barack didn't run on a flaming leftist agenda. (notice I'm not saying he didn't have a flaming leftist record) His election was based on the lies put forth by the media and his campaign about hope and ****** change, everybody sit around and stick bongs up our ***, girls grow your arm-pit-hair out, the world will love us drivel.

People voted for the carefully crafted image of barack the messiah, not barack the conqueror.  Brown was the first step in evening the balance.

I grew up on Cape Cod, born just a mile or so away from the Kennedy Compound, my last property on the Cape was closer still then that, sold it just 5 years ago - for Mass to elect a Republican, of any credentials, for the first time in my 37 years is a true feat. For Conservatives to squander the opportunity would be a huge mistake.

The dems blame Jokely - that's good for us because it means they continue to not learn from the past.  What we can't afford to do is not learn from yesterday.

[bkg]

Wow... you know me so well. You're being a whiner now.

Sad that you can't have a conversation about the fact that this happens EVERY election w/o getting all butthurt over it. Sheesh.  You want to be right? Fine... you're right. Congratulations. Feel better?

[formerlurker]

Wow... you know me so well. You're being a whiner now.

Sad that you can't have a conversation about the fact that this happens EVERY election w/o getting all butthurt over it. Sheesh.  You want to be right? Fine... you're right. Congratulations. Feel better?

You started this yesterday, got no play and moved on to your thread here. 

Gotta ask.

From what I've heard and read of this lady, she was horrible. Did the Dem's throw this like the GOP did with McCain?

I think we all know you so well.