Oh... the Irony...

[Thor]

...I grew up on Cape Cod, born just a mile or so away from the Kennedy Compound, my last property on the Cape was closer still then that, sold it just 5 years ago - for Mass to elect a Republican, of any credentials, for the first time in my 37 years is a true feat. For Conservatives to squander the opportunity would be a huge mistake.

This is my concern. I'm afraid that the GOP will mistakenly interpret this signal and move forward as it was a referendum FOR the GOP. This would bode poorly for ALL Conservatives and Patriots. The GOP needs to run clean campaigns like Scott Brown did (as far as I've seen) and stuff the Liberals in the dirt. I'm not real happy with a "moderate Conservative", though. However, for Mass., this is a significant statement by the people. I just don't want the GOP to get all crazy and shit just because of this victory. IMO, an ideal makeup of the Senate would be 50 of one party, 50 of another and 1 of a third. That way, if anything actually got done, it would be in the best interest of the PEOPLE.

[Oceander]

This is my concern. I'm afraid that the GOP will mistakenly interpret this signal and move forward as it was a referendum FOR the GOP. This would bode poorly for ALL Conservatives and Patriots. The GOP needs to run clean campaigns like Scott Brown did (as far as I've seen) and stuff the Liberals in the dirt. I'm not real happy with a "moderate Conservative", though. However, for Mass., this is a significant statement by the people. I just don't want the GOP to get all crazy and shit just because of this victory. IMO, an ideal makeup of the Senate would be 50 of one party, 50 of another and 1 of a third. That way, if anything actually got done, it would be in the best interest of the PEOPLE.

That's why we the people need to make sure that we never again get lulled into a false sense of safety or fall asleep and assume that our politicians are really leaders instead of merely glorified civil servants, emphasis on "servants."  We need to stay in their faces, in their voicemail systems, in their faxes, in their inboxes, in their emails, 24/7/365 (366 in leap-years) telling them what we want them to do for us.

The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance

[Aaron Burr]

From your keyboard to Gods teleprompter. I really, really hope America doesn't settle for the GOP and figure everything is back to normal.

I'm no fuggin' ideologue or political purist, but we need to be raising the bar of expectations for these candidates....or threatening them with some kind of bar...maybe iron...whatevers' laying around.

Oh, and I'll be happy with the Senate and the W.H. Let the semi literates keep the House. They can run around there with their pants down and viking helmets on for all I care.

[TheSarge]

Not miffed at all. Just find it utterly hilarious how the Right bitches about the Left's spin... and then does the exact same thing.

Sit on sideline.. 

I'm not sure what tv channels you are watching...but the only one's I've heard talking about a referendum on anyone's presidency...either positive or negative have been the Libs and their talking heads in the MSM.

Maybe you need to turn down the volume on the voices in your head...they're getting you confused.

[bkg]

I'm not sure what tv channels you are watching...but the only one's I've heard talking about a referendum on anyone's presidency...either positive or negative have been the Libs and their talking heads in the MSM.

Maybe you need to turn down the volume on the voices in your head...they're getting you confused.

Gotta love the personal attacks from the people cannot have the conversation about the facts. If you're defense is to call names or insult, please head over to DU - you'll be more comfortable.

Rush and Hannity, as well as the local talk show hosts here in MN, have been talking referendum all friggen week.

Take a step back from your emotional high long enough to gain some perspective on what is happening. See the forest for the trees - the right is no different than the left in the "referendum" claims.

[dandi]

Wow... you know me so well. You're being a whiner now.

Sad that you can't have a conversation about the fact that this happens EVERY election w/o getting all butthurt over it. Sheesh.  You want to be right? Fine... you're right. Congratulations. Feel better?

What was the main points that Brown ran on?

[Carl]

How about taking an honest look at your own agenda BKG.

If Scott Brown had won as an independent would you have been seeking out every election thread to throw snark on yesterday?
Seems that since he carried the (R) banner you have to try to diminish the achievement.
A look of your posts will show my point.

He ran a campaign that sounded pretty conservative,he stuck to that in his acceptance speech and after.
He beat a Kennedy clone in a liberal state..it should have been the perfect scenario yet all you have done is find fault or say "maybe he isn`t all that conservative".
In this case the GOP did what we all suggested in your thread,they supported a conservative candidate and he utilized the party apparatus at his disposal.
A perfect solution I would think and even won over Independents.

You live to bash the GOP...fine,be honest about it and be ready for people to call you on your childish antics.
My opinion is that sooner or later you are itching for a rant.."All you are just blind (sinister pause) REPUBLICANS  and I can`t accept or be a part of a place that isn`t as conservative (patting chest) as I am".
In your other thread about convincing you to vote GOP it took all of 5 or 6 posts to get you there.
I stand by my statement that all you want to do is complain and pretend you are on the cutting edge of some idealistic 3rd party uprising.

[bkg]

How about taking an honest look at your own agenda BKG.

If Scott Brown had won as an independent would you have been seeking out every election thread to throw snark on yesterday?
Seems that since he carried the (R) banner you have to try to diminish the achievement.
A look of your posts will show my point.

He ran a campaign that sounded pretty conservative,he stuck to that in his acceptance speech and after.
He beat a Kennedy clone in a liberal state..it should have been the perfect scenario yet all you have done is find fault or say "maybe he isn`t all that conservative".
In this case the GOP did what we all suggested in your thread,they supported a conservative candidate and he utilized the party apparatus at his disposal.
A perfect solution I would think and even won over Independents.

You live to bash the GOP...fine,be honest about it and be ready for people to call you on your childish antics.
My opinion is that sooner or later you are itching for a rant.."All you are just blind (sinister pause) REPUBLICANS  and I can`t accept or be a part of a place that isn`t as conservative (patting chest) as I am".
In your other thread about convincing you to vote GOP it took all of 5 or 6 posts to get you there.
I stand by my statement that all you want to do is complain and pretend you are on the cutting edge of some idealistic 3rd party uprising.

I live to bash the GOP? Seems to me there are people here who can't handle ANY criticism of the GOP. And peple here who aslo can't take a step back long enough to see that the OP was correct. This exact same thing happened last year, just roles reversed. Don't like it? I don't care, but to attack me rather than acknowledging it's true, or stating it's not, is... wel... becoming common place.

Get over yourself.

[RightCoast]

This is my concern. I'm afraid that the GOP will mistakenly interpret this signal and move forward as it was a referendum FOR the GOP. This would bode poorly for ALL Conservatives and Patriots. The GOP needs to run clean campaigns like Scott Brown did (as far as I've seen) and stuff the Liberals in the dirt. I'm not real happy with a "moderate Conservative", though. However, for Mass., this is a significant statement by the people. I just don't want the GOP to get all crazy and shit just because of this victory. IMO, an ideal makeup of the Senate would be 50 of one party, 50 of another and 1 of a third. That way, if anything actually got done, it would be in the best interest of the PEOPLE.

Listening to "steele" harp on the victory was sickening. No we're not going to get a party of Conservatives, but it would be nice if they'd at least acknowledge we're here.

[formerlurker]

And peple here who aslo can't take a step back long enough to see that the OP was correct. This exact same thing happened last year, just roles reversed.

Uh, we already established that a national presidential election is clearly NOT the same as a Republican winning a U.S. Senate seat in a deep blue, ultra liberal, state (commonwealth) where Republicans very rarely win anything.  

The OP is not correct.  

[Aaron Burr]

Bottom line? We may have some problems...but Coakley ain't one of them.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etl9kkIGaHo&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[Carl]

I live to bash the GOP? Seems to me there are people here who can't handle ANY criticism of the GOP. And peple here who aslo can't take a step back long enough to see that the OP was correct. This exact same thing happened last year, just roles reversed. Don't like it? I don't care, but to attack me rather than acknowledging it's true, or stating it's not, is... wel... becoming common place.

Get over yourself.

You posted the thread dude,stop fussing that people called you on it.
Guess you should have put up a statement saying that no taking to task is allowed and begged for it to be locked.

You got the attention you crave though so will give you that much and hope you are not deeply offended by someone telling you to grow up.
Know you won`t listen because you are soooooo much better then everyone else here and only your opinions matter.
 

[bkg]

You posted the thread dude,stop fussing that people called you on it.
Guess you should have put up a statement saying that no taking to task is allowed and begged for it to be locked.

You got the attention you crave though so will give you that much and hope you are not deeply offended by someone telling you to grow up.
Know you won`t listen because you are soooooo much better then everyone else here and only your opinions matter.
 

we won't (and typically don't) agree. nothing new here.

[Lacarnut]

I live to bash the GOP? Seems to me there are people here who can't handle ANY criticism of the GOP. And peple here who aslo can't take a step back long enough to see that the OP was correct. This exact same thing happened last year, just roles reversed. Don't like it? I don't care, but to attack me rather than acknowledging it's true, or stating it's not, is... wel... becoming common place.

Get over yourself.

I have had a problem with GOP policies in the past. However, the worst RINO in Congress is better than the best Democrat. Don't you agree?. What has happened in the past does not concern me as much as what is going to happen in the future. Obama's radical policies need to be stopped.

The wins in NJ, VA and MA are a result of the mobilization of the Tea Party crowd made up of D., R. & I. Scott Brown is a moderate. He voted for MA health care;however, he will vote against Obamacare. He will vote for a strong defense and fiscal responsibility. That's good enough for me. You are the one that need to get over yourself if you have a problem with the three Republicans that have whipped their opponents badly.  

[TheSarge]

Gotta love the personal attacks from the people cannot have the conversation about the facts.

Telll ya what n00b...you start dealing in facts and we'll talk.

If you're defense is to call names or insult, please head over to DU - you'll be more comfortable.

OH!  That hurt.  Please PLEASE don't compare me to the DUmmies.

 

Rush and Hannity, as well as the local talk show hosts here in MN, have been talking referendum all friggen week.

Nice way to move the goalposts junior.

Take a step back from your emotional high long enough to gain some perspective on what is happening. See the forest for the trees - the right is no different than the left in the "referendum" claims.

Yeah yeah yeah the left is no different from the right. 

Don't you have a John Birch Society meeting to attend.

[Lacarnut]

Yeah yeah yeah the left is no different from the right. 

Don't you have a John Birch Society meeting to attend.

Or a Ron Paul meeting

[Chris_]

 

[bkg]

 

troof right there.

Y'all get pissed when someone points out the truth. Fawk yer senstive. And please stop calling me a Paul supporter - we've been through that one enough already. Moving goal-posts. That's funny fawking shit right there.

[TheSarge]

troof right there.

Y'all get pissed when someone points out the truth. Fawk yer senstive. And please stop calling me a Paul supporter - we've been through that one enough already. Moving goal-posts. That's funny fawking shit right there.

Can you translate that to english?  I realize you were typing one handed but c'mon.

Kinda hypocritical that you ask us to stop calling you a paulista when you had no problem insinuating I was a DU member...or should be.

[bkg]

Can you translate that to english?  I realize you were typing one handed but c'mon.

Kinda hypocritical that you ask us to stop calling you a paulista when you had no problem insinuating I was a DU member...or should be.

Didn't call you a DU member and I didn't call you names. Please read slower. I suggested that if you were going to call me names, that you might better fit in a place that is all about name calling. If the shoe fits.

[formerlurker]

Y'all get pissed when someone points out the truth.

It's.

Not.

A.

Valid.

Comparison.


Mmmkay?

[bkg]

Remember this thread? 

[formerlurker]

Remember this thread? 

Yeah I do.  You are still wrong as there is no VALID COMPARISON. 

[bkg]

Yeah I do.  You are still wrong as there is no VALID COMPARISON. 

and you offer no evidence to suggest otherwise...

You Republicans are so married to your emotions - it makes me laugh.

[formerlurker]

and you offer no evidence to suggest otherwise...

You Republicans are so married to your emotions - it makes me laugh.

Who the hell are you kidding.  This doesn't make you laugh.  You are a miserable bitter party of one who does nothing but complain and very little else.

As for evidence? WTF are you talking about.   National presidential election vs. U.S. senate seat?  are you kidding me right now?

It's not a spin.  The entire women's glass ceiling, Coakley's campaign did this to themselves, yada yada is all damage control.  This is MA.  Statewide election for federal seat = Democrat victory.   Period.    Witness John Kerry -- the biggest elitist bore this commonwealth has ever seen.  Zero personality.  Conducts his campaigns pretty much step for step how Coakley did her campaign.   Wins in a landslide again and again.  

The Democrats and unenrolled (which you would refer to as Independents) had quite enough of Obamacare and the super majority.   They did this.   You don't get 1.1 million folks to head out in a snow/ice storm to stand in line to vote for Brown because Coakley ran a bad campaign.   That explanation is not only lame as all get out, it is incredibly ignorant.  

Message sent to the country from non-conservatives.  See the folks that the "real conservatves" take great lengths to make snarky comments about, accomplished what the "real conservatives" could not do.  They are the changemakers.   You are not.

Carl nailed it with the whining on the sidelines comment.  Ya ain't happy unless you are complaining.