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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Revolution on July 20, 2012, 03:48:31 AM
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BREAKING: Multiple dead, several injured after a mass shooting in Denver, CO movie theatre.
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/20/several-reportedly-dead-injured-after-shooting-at-colorado-movie-theater/)
This is at the premier of TDKR JUST as the movie started. 2 suspects. 1 in custody. 1 on the run.
No link yet. I've heard on the news that there are 10-12 dead. 3 in the hospital in critical. Damn...
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Reports are now 14 dead, 50 injured. FBI, and gang units are now on scene. :( My condolences to the victims, and their families.
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Only one shooter, but he's said things about "incendiary devices" in his residence and his vehicle. Heather Childers of FNC is saying that he tear-gassed the theater first, then started shooting.
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No name being released yet. IS there a reason to hold it back?
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Was there a reason to put this mass murdering piece of shit in custody is my question. It's obvious who did it. It's obvious he told authorities he had incendiary devices. If I was one of the officers who made contact with him, I'd have put one in his head. Screw the consequences. He put one in a 1 year old child from point blank range, for christ's sake!! :mad:
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There wasn't a pic before, but per the rules of CC, if someone would add this pic to the OP, I would appreciate it.
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God, that is terrible. Prayers to all the victims and their families.
Aside: even though I'm not posting any threads here (not appropriate) I just perused DU, and they all blame Limbaugh for this act.
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God, that is terrible. Prayers to all the victims and their families.
Aside: even though I'm not posting any threads here (not appropriate) I just perused DU, and they all blame Limbaugh for this act.
Maybe it wasn't appropriate, but I said why I did it in the other thread.
I've heard an update that 15 are now dead. :(
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URGENT: At least 14 people have been killed and up to 50 injured after a mass shooting at a showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" at a suburban Denver movie theater, police
The violent and chaotic scene erupted about 12:30 a.m. MDT as a gunman stood at the front of one of the Century 16 theaters at the Aurora Mall where the movie "The was playing, police said.
"Witnesses tell us he released some sort of canister. They heard a hissing sound and some gas emerged and the gunman opened fire," Oates said at a news conference.
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/20/several-reportedly-dead-injured-after-shooting-at-colorado-movie-theater/#ixzz219waGpqh)
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Oh my gosh, how horrible!!! :(
Not the kind of news one wants to start their day off with. That was definitely premeditated.
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No name being released yet. IS there a reason to hold it back?
I think it's quite obvious . . .
. . . 'Religion of peace,' anyone?
:mo:
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I think it's quite obvious . . .
. . . 'Religion of peace,' anyone?
:mo:
That was my first thought.
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I'm leaning that way, but I've also heard there's a large black population in Aurora.
Withholding judgment.
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White alone - 153,715 (47.3%)
Hispanic - 93,263 (28.7%)
Black alone - 49,003 (15.1%)
Asian alone - 15,735 (4.8%)
Two or more races - 10,279 (3.2%)
American Indian alone - 1,487 (0.5%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 919 (0.3%)
Other race alone - 677 (0.2%)
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Aurora-Colorado.html#ixzz21ADRA6qP
I'm thinking white or Hispanic.
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This shit terrifies me.
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Heard over at the Island that the shooter's name is James Holms. No idea if there is any credibility to it considering the source.
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Just reported that Time Warner has now said it has cancelled premiers of TDKR in Paris, and probably other places in the US because of the shooting.
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This shit terrifies me.
Then liberalism and the religion of pieces is winning.
DUmmies like to boycott places that don't agree with their agenda....I'm beginning to think I'll join them....I won't go into any business that doesn't allow legally permitted concealed weapons.
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That was so horrible. My condolences and prayers go out to the victims' loved ones, and that the wounded recover quickly.
May the animal who did this (I wouldn't be surprised if he did it just for fame) receive the full punishment the law can give.
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^ He probably won't, and if he does, taxpayers are going to pay for his worthless ass for the rest of his life. :mad:
My question is this: Why does this guy still breathe?!
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^ He probably won't, and if he does, taxpayers are going to pay for his worthless ass for the rest of his life. :mad:
My question is this: Why does this guy still breathe?!
Because liberals don't believe in "swift justice".
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These things are always a tragedy and my heart goes out to those involved, but get ready. In the next few weeks the shit is going to hit the fan. The LIBERAL anti-gunners are going to be screaming for gun control to the max. It wouldn't surprise me if it became a campaign issue. Gun owners will be blamed, the NRA will be blamed along with Rush Limbaugh and anyone else LIBERALS can point a finger at. I am expecting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to chime in at any time.
So if you are a gun owner get ready. Hang on tight because I think the next few weeks are going to be ugly and who knows how it is going to turn out.
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Heard on the radio in Chicago that the Tea Party is being blamed. ::)
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These things are always a tragedy and my heart goes out to those involved, but get ready. In the next few weeks the shit is going to hit the fan. The LIBERAL anti-gunners are going to be screaming for gun control to the max. It wouldn't surprise me if it became a campaign issue. Gun owners will be blamed, the NRA will be blamed along with Rush Limbaugh and anyone else LIBERALS can point a finger at. I am expecting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to chime in at any time.
So if you are a gun owner get ready. Hang on tight because I think the next few weeks are going to be ugly and who knows how it is going to turn out.
This.
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This is horrible news. An act of pure evil.
I have a friend who lives in Aurora. I think I'll check in with him later and see how he's doing.
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Heard on the radio in Chicago that the Tea Party is being blamed. ::)
Here we go....like I said gun owners hang on. :thatsright:
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This is a very sad day.
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
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Heard on the radio in Chicago that the Tea Party is being blamed. ::)
They are trying to political now???????????? We should be focused on the victims and their families.
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They are trying to political now???????????? We should be focused on the victims and their families.
MSM Alphabet TV News will do that task for you on this evenings news.
They are at this moment trying to calculate more angles to this than a college trig class will figure in 2 semesters.
...and unlike the liberal MSM, I do have feelings for the innocents involved in this.
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ABC's Brian Ross and George Stephanopolos made the inference. Breitbart has some possible info on the guy.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/20/Exclusive-Dark-Knight-Shooting-Suspect-James-Holmes-Registered-Democrat
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They are trying to political now???????????? We should be focused on the victims and their families.
They always do...just like Gabby Giffords in Arizona. They will make it completely 100% political and try to blame Conservatives...talk radio...Rush Limbaugh...the TEA PArty and Sarah Palin....until they discover whoever did this was a) Muslim or a convert or b) was a registered Democrat with a membership at DU.
Then they'll call for calm and a toning down of the rhetoric.
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MSM Alphabet TV News will do that task for you on this evenings news.
They are at this moment trying to calculate more angles to this than a college trig class will figure in 2 semesters.
...and unlike the liberal MSM, I do have feelings for the innocents involved in this.
The Legacy Media is at it again.
They always do...just like Gabby Giffords in Arizona. They will make it completely 100% political and try to blame Conservatives...talk radio...Rush Limbaugh...the TEA PArty and Sarah Palin....until they discover whoever did this was a) Muslim or a convert or b) was a registered Democrat with a membership at DU.
Then they'll call for calm and a toning down of the rhetoric.
I have seen that many times before. Good grief.
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Police say gunman's home was 'booby trapped' (http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/07/20/live-updates-gunman-opens-fire-during-batman-showing-killing-14-and-injuring-50/)
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Apparently the James Holmes ABC cited as "proof" the Tea Party was involved was 50 years old.
WTFG, guys.
My mother lives in Denver and my nephew lives with his grandparents in Aurora. And anyone who tells you Aurora is an "average" neighborhood lies. It's a shithole.
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In my best "Elvis has left the building" voice.....
"Obama has read the teleprompter."
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A few extra bits of information:
1. Holmes was apparently a former med student.
2. (In case we need any more reason to get angry at this monster) Among the injured was a 4- month- old baby who had some ill effects from exposure to that gas bomb Holmes released before he started shooting. The child is okay though, and was released from the hospital.
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What a nut.
Prayers to the victims, their families, and loved ones.
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ABC's Brian Ross and George Stephanopolos made the inference. Breitbart has some possible info on the guy.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/20/Exclusive-Dark-Knight-Shooting-Suspect-James-Holmes-Registered-Democrat
They go to a social media page to source their news!! They're simply desperate to politicize this at a time when so many have lost so much because of a madman. I'm so &%$#ing sick of the liberal media!
Prayers up for the grieving ^0^
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I am praying for the victims and their families of this terrible tragedy.
ABC's Good Morning America said that he was a Tea Party member in his 50's, now they are retracting that saying that it was misinfermation. I think they just wanted to blame the Tea party and republicans. They will be eating some major crow when they realize that they are full of shit!
I also looked on MSNBC's website too see if I can find any blame going on there, I don't see any on the website, but that isn't saying what stupidity could be spewing out of the TV station.
Here is the pic of the shooter. Does he look 50? He a 24 year old Med Grad student (his name is James Holmes). He is also probably a registered Democrat!
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-120720-james-holmes-4x3-925a.380;380;7;70.jpg)
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Saw online that ABC is already trying to "backtrack" their remarks the shooter was a tea party member. Duh...maybe they should have checked facts first :thatsright:
Per news conference on rigt now:
Guy was a med student that quit school end of semester.
He's from San Diego...extremely white and apparently painted his hair red and refers to himself as The Joker.
He was covered in body armor...chest, head, neck and groin. (no way to shoot him and kill him)
12 dead, 59 injured incl 1 in an adjacent theater.
Police were there in 1-2 minutes from first call.
His apartment is seriously booby trapped, trip wires, lots of bottles filled with something. All buildings in apt complex have been evacuated. Don't know how long it will take to defuse the apartment.
Next update at 7pm.
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According to the press conference. With all he was wearing (It was swat team gear), they are not rolling out that it was a terrorist attack. But they are not going to confirm it until they know for sure.
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It doesn't have to be accurate... All
Stephanopolous Brian Ross has to do is put it out there and the left-wing blog nerds will run with it. Six months from now, DUmmies will be telling each other stories of how that mean ol' Republican shot up a movie theater and it will be accepted as gospel.
****ing degenerates.
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Infowars.com is comparing this to Columbine. Those people are morons. This is nothing like Columbine. I would like to know where people get these ideas from?
One of my facebook friends swears by inforwars. She insists that it is the only 'Real' news source on the web. I think she is full of crap.
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ABC News Special....and Dianne Sawyer was straining so hard to project some fake concern, sympathy, compassion...it was down right sickening. "...and be sure to talk to your kids about this...blah-blah-blah" Yes Ms Sawyer, we know what you want us to tell our kids but I'm going to tell him the truth. That this is what happens when you preach class envy, jealousy, greed, slothfulness, covetous....all those emotions the democrats encourage against hard working, successful people.
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ABC News Special....and Dianne Sawyer was straining so hard to project some fake concern, sympathy, compassion...it was down right sickening. "...and be sure to talk to your kids about this...blah-blah-blah" Yes Ms Sawyer, we know what you want us to tell our kids but I'm going to tell him the truth. That this is what happens when you preach class envy, jealousy, greed, slothfulness, covetous....all those emotions the democrats encourage against hard working, successful people.
HI5 .....
Latest reports are that the suspect colored his hair and goatee red like the joker. He is obviously a crack pot. I have no doubt that is an obama supporter now. - Also, Warner Brothers cancelled the premier of the movie in Paris.
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Because liberals don't believe in "swift justice".
Unless the suspect is a "white Hispanic" named Zimmerman.
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Unless the suspect is a "white Hispanic" named Zimmerman.
Yeah, what's taking so long. Why is he still breathing. Enquiring Liberals want to know.
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A few extra bits of information:
1. Holmes was apparently a former med student.
2. (In case we need any more reason to get angry at this monster) Among the injured was a 4- month- old baby who had some ill effects from exposure to that gas bomb Holmes released before he started shooting. The child is okay though, and was released from the hospital.
Slightly off topic, but I have to ask what was a 4 month old baby doing at a midnight screening of a movie?
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Slightly off topic, but I have to ask what was a 4 month old baby doing at a midnight screening of a movie?
Parents who would take the baby with them and let it sleep while they watch the movie. It happens all the time. I see nothing wrong with that. At least they didn't leave it home alone, which then I would have a big problem with.
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Parents who would take the baby with them and let it sleep while they watch the movie. It happens all the time. I see nothing wrong with that. At least they didn't leave it home alone, which then I would have a big problem with.
Can anyone sleep in a theater with the way they have the sound cranked up?
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Can anyone sleep in a theater with the way they have the sound cranked up?
Exactly. And when the baby wakes up crying like 4 month old do what about the others trying to enjoy the movie do? Seems a but selfish to me on the part of the parents. If they can't arrange proper child care they should forego the movie until a time they can find child care.
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Can anyone sleep in a theater with the way they have the sound cranked up?
Yeah, you have a good point there. :lmao:
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This shit terrifies me.
It certainly does. What kind of society are we leaving our children? I'm scared for my baby... you know? I just don't know what to make of all of it.
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Slightly off topic, but I have to ask what was a 4 month old baby doing at a midnight screening of a movie?
I wanted to know this as well this morning. A couple of people commented like it was normal. Maybe it is. I haven't been to a theater since The Hangover. That was back in 2009.
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I am praying for the victims and their families of this terrible tragedy.
ABC's Good Morning America said that he was a Tea Party member in his 50's, now they are retracting that saying that it was misinfermation. I think they just wanted to blame the Tea party and republicans. They will be eating some major crow when they realize that they are full of shit!
I also looked on MSNBC's website too see if I can find any blame going on there, I don't see any on the website, but that isn't saying what stupidity could be spewing out of the TV station.
Here is the pic of the shooter. Does he look 50? He a 24 year old Med Grad student (his name is James Holmes). He is also probably a registered Democrat!
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-120720-james-holmes-4x3-925a.380;380;7;70.jpg)
Definitely looks like an Occutard. Of course we won't hear anything as such from the Lame Stream Media, instead more blame on conservatives. ::)
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Bush told Rush to tell the TEA party to commit the heinous cowardly act. This according to owebuma's administration, the owebumaManiaMedia. So sad, and sorry for the tragedy. May God heal them all.
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Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes jailed in solitary: ‘All the inmates were talking about killing him’
'He was spitting at the door and spitting at the guards,' a just-released inmate told the Daily News. 'He's spitting at everything. Dude was acting crazy.'
NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/aurora-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-jailed-solitary-inmates-talking-killing-article-1.1119173#ixzz21IqNXRbo)
I say they let them have him.
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Aurora's Strict Gun Laws Didn't Prevent Shooting, But If One Law-Abiding Person In The Theater Had Been Carrying One...
http://cnsnews.com/blog/ron-meyer/auroras-strict-gun-laws-didnt-prevent-shooting-if-one-law-abiding-person-theater-had
So much for gun control.
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Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Memorial, Funerals For Colorado Shooting Victims
http://www.inquisitr.com/281726/westboro-baptist-church-plans-to-picket-memorial-funerals-for-colorado-shooting-victims/
Guess who is planning to show up. :mental: :bird:
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Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Memorial, Funerals For Colorado Shooting Victims
http://www.inquisitr.com/281726/westboro-baptist-church-plans-to-picket-memorial-funerals-for-colorado-shooting-victims/
Guess who is planning to show up. :mental: :bird:
I wonder if the shooter has a twin running loose? :whistling:
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Someone needs to burn their ****ing church down. They're not a religion, they're an oozing sore.
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Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Memorial, Funerals For Colorado Shooting Victims
http://www.inquisitr.com/281726/westboro-baptist-church-plans-to-picket-memorial-funerals-for-colorado-shooting-victims/
Guess who is planning to show up. :mental: :bird:
These people will go to hell. ****ers.
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Someone needs to burn their ****ing church down. They're not a religion, they're an oozing sore.
I have a little experience with Phred's Phreaks. They are every bit as hateful and evil in person.
Fast forward to 12:25. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1255630606668114621)
Note: I have lost about 90 pounds since then.
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Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Memorial, Funerals For Colorado Shooting Victims
http://www.inquisitr.com/281726/westboro-baptist-church-plans-to-picket-memorial-funerals-for-colorado-shooting-victims/
Guess who is planning to show up. :mental: :bird:
It will make my day if someone would shoot that fake Preacher, Phelps, in the head. He is a poor excuse for a human and is nothing but scum. I bet he is loved by the DUmp....
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It will make my day if someone would shoot that fake Preacher, Phelps, in the head. He is a poor excuse for a human and nothing but scum. I bet he is loved by the DUmp....
He is a Democrat. The whole family is.
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He is a Democrat. The whole family is.
So then he would be a hero to those retards at the DUmp...
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I wish all the pain on the Phelps clan that is physically possible. Maybe if one of them is shot or stabbed by a victim's family member, they will finally stop the insanity!
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I wish all the pain on the Phelps clan that is physically possible. Maybe if one of them is shot or stabbed by a victim's family member, they will finally stop the insanity!
The irony is, if what you want comes to pass, the ones suffering the pain will likely become conservative. Do we really want them ?
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I don't like them but I don't wish any harm on them, God will deal with them when the time comes.
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I have a little experience with Phred's Phreaks. They are every bit as hateful and evil in person.
Fast forward to 12:25. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1255630606668114621)
Note: I have lost about 90 pounds since then.
Well Lookit you!
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Twitchy.com is running names of victims as they are released. I just saw that one victim was a 6 year old child. How sad....
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Twitchy.com is running names of victims as they are released. I just saw that one victim was a 6 year old child. How sad....
Her mother survived...is clinging to life in ICU and when conscious...keeps asking for her.
No one has told her yet.
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Well Lookit you!
:-)
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I have a little experience with Phred's Phreaks. They are every bit as hateful and evil in person.
Fast forward to 12:25. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1255630606668114621)
Note: I have lost about 90 pounds since then.
You're a Patriot Rider? That is AWESOME! Hi5 ...
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You're a Patriot Rider? That is AWESOME! Hi5 ...
Thanks.
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Thanks.
I saw in the video that they actually had a sign about Keith's daughter. How he kept from punching them, I will never know. If that was me, I would have went ballistic on them.
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Massacre suspect James Holmes' gun-range application drew red flag (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/22/massacre-suspect-james-holmes-gun-range-application-drew-red-flag-for-owner/)
:mental:
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I have a little experience with Phred's Phreaks. They are every bit as hateful and evil in person.
Fast forward to 12:25. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1255630606668114621)
Note: I have lost about 90 pounds since then.
Hey, you look great!
I watched to whole video. While I agreed with much of the views from the guy, he is kind of an ass yet I couldn't help but like him. Some of his arguments were weak though. I did find it funny how whats her name and her family got offended by him questioning her sons legitimacy and saying it wasn't fair for him to bring it up to her son. ****ing hypocrites do worse times 1000 at soldiers and others peoples funerals and then get offended when questioned about their own sins.
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Hey, you look great!
I watched to whole video. While I agreed with much of the views from the guy, he is kind of an ass yet I couldn't help but like him. Some of his arguments were weak though. I did find it funny how whats her name and her family got offended by him questioning her sons legitimacy and saying it wasn't fair for him to bring it up to her son. ****ing hypocrites do worse times 1000 at soldiers and others peoples funerals and then get offended when questioned about their own sins.
Thanks, BEG. I think I had about 10 years of "don't give a damn" before that video; funny how a divorce can clear that up. I look at pictures from that time, and feel good that I have done something for myself and my health. I still have a way to go, but I'm working on it.
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/electstevedawes/Loose%20ends/citylimits5x7.jpg)
August 2010
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/electstevedawes/Loose%20ends/Photo004.jpg)
June 2012
It was fun to talk to Keith Allen that day. I had no idea what the video would be like or what I would say. I just kinda winged it.
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Hello!
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/electstevedawes/Loose%20ends/Photo004.jpg)
June 2012
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Hello!
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/electstevedawes/Loose%20ends/Photo004.jpg)
Well, thank you, ma'am!
The painted horse is called a "dala". It's Swedish. Lindsborg, an old Swedish town near here, had a dala painting contest. This one has hearing aids and glasses, reminded me of a certain Dog I know :-)
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(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/electstevedawes/Loose%20ends/Photo004.jpg)
June 2012
Hey....a dartboard picture for OS.
He can write "franksolitch????" across it in blue crayon.... :lmao:
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Hey....a dartboard picture for OS.
He can write "franksolitch????" across it in blue crayon.... :lmao:
Holding the crayon with his toes, like Inspector Dreyfus at the end of The Return of The Pink Panther.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVS_CqC7H2Q[/youtube]
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James Holmes faces judge for first time in wake of Aurora, Colo., movie theater mass shooting
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477756/james-holmes-faces-judge-for-first-time-in-wake-of-aurora-colorado-movie-theater-mass-shooting/
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James Holmes faces judge for first time in wake of Aurora, Colo., movie theater mass shooting
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477756/james-holmes-faces-judge-for-first-time-in-wake-of-aurora-colorado-movie-theater-mass-shooting/
I saw this "live" this morning.
The newscaster said "Holmes looked listless, "out of it" and that when he closed his eyes tight, when the judge said "death penalty" ...that it looked like reality hit Holmes."
Jesus, Mary and Joseph!!!! I personally thought the guy looked either:
1) he was heavily medicated . which there has been no announcement that he was being medically treated.
or
2) he looked like he was trying to stay awake!
I think it was #2.
Junior is finding out what his future in jail is going to be like....and he's been too afraid to go to sleep!
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I saw this "live" this morning.
The newscaster said "Holmes looked listless, "out of it" and that when he closed his eyes tight, when the judge said "death penalty" ...that it looked like reality hit Holmes."
Jesus, Mary and Joseph!!!! I personally thought the guy looked either:
1) he was heavily medicated . which there has been no announcement that he was being medically treated.
or
2) he looked like he was trying to stay awake!
I think it was #2.
Junior is finding out what his future in jail is going to be like....and he's been too afraid to go to sleep!
Question, we know where he bought his weapons but where did the stores that sold them to him get them ???
Will we ever know if any of the weapons came from the Fast and Furious operation ??????
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Question, we know where he bought his weapons but where did the stores that sold them to him get them ???
Will we ever know if any of the weapons came from the Fast and Furious operation ??????
Bass Pro Shops and Gander Mountain, two national store chains with mail order covering the US except where prohibited by local law. No connection to Fast and Furious.
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Thanks, BEG. I think I had about 10 years of "don't give a damn" before that video; funny how a divorce can clear that up. I look at pictures from that time, and feel good that I have done something for myself and my health. I still have a way to go, but I'm working on it.
It was fun to talk to Keith Allen that day. I had no idea what the video would be like or what I would say. I just kinda winged it.
Did you used to post at the DUmp with the handle "PaganPreacher"? Found this from 2006.
PaganPreacher (653 posts) Sat Aug-26-06 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. From the Big Dog: This is not "left" or "right".
Will:
Thanks for the interview. I appreciated the opportunity to talk to you.
AntiFascist:
Phred is not "right-wing", nor is he "left-wing".
Any honest political discussion about him and his family must include the fact that they are registered Democrats, and have been active in Democratic party politics in Kansas for three decades. If you decide to asign a "wing" to the Phelps family, you must acknowledge that Phred was a state official in the Gore Presidential campaign, and that members of his family ran for office as Democrats.
When you talk about the WBC, leave your politics at the curb. You have common cause with millions of Republicans who abhor the Phelpses, just as you do. Don't be afraid to find something bigger in this life than politics.
Ride safe, and ride proud.
DC "Big Dog" Hannah,
aka The Pagan Preacher
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Isn't this interesting? At least we know now what money he used to buy the stuff with.
James Holmes Received $26K Grant From Bethesda-Based National Institutes of Health
July 24, 2012 7:49 AM
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) - James Holmes, the alleged gunman in the recent theater shooting that left 12 dead in Aurora, Colo., was previously awarded a $26,000 federal grant.
PHOTOS: James Holmes First Court Appearance
WNEW News reports that Holmes was awarded a prestigious grant from the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md. NIH is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
It gave the graduate student a $26,000 stipend and paid his tuition for the highly competitive neuroscience program at the University of Colorado in Denver. Holmes was one of six neuroscience students at the school to get the grant money.
Holmes is expected to be formally charged next Monday. He is being held on suspicion of first-degree murder, and he could also face additional counts of aggravated assault and weapons violations. Holmes has been assigned a public defender.
Weeks before, Holmes quit a 35-student Ph.D. program in neuroscience for reasons that aren’t clear. He had earlier taken an intense oral exam that marks the end of the first year but University of Colorado Denver officials would not say if he passed, citing privacy concerns.
The rest of the story is here: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-received-26k-grant-from-bethesda-based-national-institutes-of-health/
So, yes--he did get the money from the government. It wasn't supposed to be used that way, but that sure as all Hell didn't stop him.
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Isn't this interesting? At least we know now what money he used to buy the stuff with.
The rest of the story is here: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-received-26k-grant-from-bethesda-based-national-institutes-of-health/
So, yes--he did get the money from the government. It wasn't supposed to be used that way, but that sure as all Hell didn't stop him.
So that is how he got the money to but all the equipment he needed. Hmmmm...
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Did you used to post at the DUmp with the handle "PaganPreacher"? Found this from 2006.
Yup. That was me.
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Isn't this interesting? At least we know now what money he used to buy the stuff with.
The rest of the story is here: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-received-26k-grant-from-bethesda-based-national-institutes-of-health/
So, yes--he did get the money from the government. It wasn't supposed to be used that way, but that sure as all Hell didn't stop him.
You didn't shoot all those people on your own. Somebody made that happen. (/O mode)
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Are you guys ready for some good news out of this? Well, I'm not sure if you would consider it good or not, but Christian Bale showed at the hospital today, on his own dime, to visit the victims of the shooting. That shows some class right there. And I think him visiting them is better than obama visiting them, as obama only did it as a photo op.
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I saw on tv earlier today, that several of the Denver Broncos have been visiting them too.
I also heard that the movie company is donating "untold amount" to the fund that has been started for the victims.
I was glad to see that a fund had been started for the victims. I don't know about any of the other victims, but I heard yesterday, that the mother of the little girl who was killed, was shot in the neck and is paralyzed. :(
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Holmes got funded by the owebuma administration, or at the very least on owebuma's watch. But it will still probably be Bush's fault.
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Holmes got funded by the owebuma administration, or at the very least on owebuma's watch. But it will still probably be Bush's fault.
MSNBC is blaming Bush.
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A question I have about the CCW/armed citizen argument I have is that Holmes set off smoke bombs before the show. You can't shoot what you can't see. I'd be interested in knowing how effective the smoke bombs he set off in the theater were. Do theaters not have security cameras in the theater or projection booth? Is the theater owner sitting on them to cover his ass?
I hate adding to the second-guessing going on. This situation is terrible.
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Depends what size, dispersion rate, and the HVAC system that would dissipate it, I would think.
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More disturbing news: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-laid-out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/
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More disturbing news: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-laid-out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/
I feel that was all part of his plan to go for the insanity plea. I don't think it will work though.
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I feel that was all part of his plan to go for the insanity plea. I don't think it will work though.
It shows more premeditation which hurts his insanity plea, IMO
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It shows more premeditation which hurts his insanity plea, IMO
Yes, it does. But he will try to use it towards his insanity plea.
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Now lawyers can sue the US Mail, the college mail room, the college shrink/professor....oh the lawyers will make millions at our expense.
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Now lawyers can sue the US Mail, the college mail room, the college shrink/professor....oh the lawyers will make millions at our expense.
they already do.
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they already do.
Not to hear them tell it....they're doing it for your best interest....I guess that's why 95% of the lawyers are democrats.
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Not to hear them tell it....they're doing it for your best interest....I guess that's why 95% of the lawyers are democrats.
Because we don't know what's good for ourselves.
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Speaking of lawyers.
I got rear ended in my work truck on Tuesday. Thankfully no one was hurt. Did a lot of damage to her car and minor damage to the F-150 I drive.
But I've received 3 letters from ambulance chasers so far wanting to "tell me my legal rights".
They even enclosed a copy of the police report.
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Speaking of lawyers.
I got rear ended in my work truck on Tuesday. Thankfully no one was hurt. Did a lot of damage to her car and minor damage to the F-150 I drive.
But I've received 3 letters from ambulance chasers so far wanting to "tell me my legal rights".
They even enclosed a copy of the police report.
I blame ambulance chaser lawyers as one of the reasons auto insurance rates are so high.
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I blame ambulance chaser lawyers as one of the reasons auto all insurance rates are so high.
FIFY
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Speaking of lawyers.
I got rear ended in my work truck on Tuesday. Thankfully no one was hurt. Did a lot of damage to her car and minor damage to the F-150 I drive.
But I've received 3 letters from ambulance chasers so far wanting to "tell me my legal rights".
They even enclosed a copy of the police report.
When I got a speeding ticket here in NC, the next day I was getting those same types of letters. All the other speeding tickets I recieved in FL, GA, and AK, nothing.
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In my area we have about ten ambulance chasing lawyer offices. As well as a couple of injury lawyers trying to get people to call for all kinds of stupid things. And they wonder why people sue for anything these days.
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The post office had to recall the lawyer stamp. No one knew which side to spit on.
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:rimshot:
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I forgot where I read it, but one county here has 1 pending lawsuit for every 3 people. One of the most litigious counties in the country.
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I don't want to be trite and have not been able to read all the posts, so sorry ahead of time if I am re-hashing stuff already discussed. Is anybody besides me thinking that this kind of incident will increase with more gun control and less freedom to bare arms? I remember my brother and I teaching my son's Japanese exchange teacher how to shoot a .357. She was like 90 lbs, and after a day she could out shoot either of us. I am thinking to myself that if that little girl had been present in that theater with a revolver, maybe one person would have died before the nut-job was "taken out". I mean, sure guns require some training, but so does driving a car, and the huge majority of people would act to stop a terrible thing, not cause it. I mean even liberals, properly trained, would do the right thing here! Police can never be present in time and nut-jobs will always be among us, so it seems to me that more "regular people" need to be "packing heat", or many many more innocent people are going to die. Do we have anything resembling intelligent leadership left??
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... sorry, still chewing on this subject here ... I was just thinking about the University incident back in '07 (I think?). It was Virginia Tech, down in southern Virginia. I think over 30 kids were killed. I mean they were college students, but I am a grandfather so I get to call them kids. Anyway, how many "kids" on that campus, out in the country in VA, do you think there were, that knew how to fire a weapon?? I bet there were many many. So I think it is safe to say that if not for laws stopping them, several young men and perhaps women, would have been armed at the time. If so, do you think more, or fewer people would have had to die that day? I think over 30 young students lost their lives that day. Remember that in the similar case in Texas back in the 1960s, it was an off-duty COP and some "regular citizens packing heat", that ended the campus tower incident. I seriously believe that armed citizens are THE ONLY protection against "nut jobs". Who will stand up against the onslaught of those who imagine "gun control" makes us safer?? It seems to me that many lives depend on it, but maybe I am just an old fool.
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I wonder why more on our side don't bring up Pearl, Mississippi or Virgina School of Law. For those who don't know, a kid went crazy and shot some other kids in a HS, then was going to go continue at a Jr. Hi. An assistant principal ran to his car, got his (legally owned) handgun, and stopped the kid until the cops arrived.
Virginia School of Law-guy was upset at his professor, shot hm, two students (off duty officers taking law classes) retreived their handguns and shot the guy before he went on a rampage.
Imagine if they were allowed to carry in the victim zones?
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Colo. suspect charged with 24 counts of murder
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120730/DA0BBA7G2.html
James Holmes is being charged with 116 counts of attempted capital murder. Ashley Moser's baby was stillborn from the massacre.