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First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« on: June 03, 2014, 05:56:34 PM »
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Gen. Dempsey: Army May Still Pursue Charges Against Sgt. Berghdal

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6. The London Sunday Times report is troubling (about what he might have been doing in Pakistan)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305184/Bowe-Bergdahl-Taliban-claim-captured-U-S-solider-teaching-fighters-bomb-making-skills.html

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8. Great. Just what we need.

I think the military is going to have to do a VERY thorough exam on him both physically and mentally.

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2. Of course--the question is, what mental and physical state is he in,
 
to be able to face charges and participate in legal proceedings.

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4. GW Bush also deserted....

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7. 5 Taliban were released to win back a deserter?

There has to be more to this.

The Obama admin can't be that stupid.



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16. All of this media frenzy...

...accusing this man of this that and the other. Whatever else 'the truth' turns out to be, it seems safe to assume he's had an awful 5 years, and his 'safe return' has turned into a free for all. 'Trauma' doesn't even begin to cover it. I keep waiting for the headline that says they've found him dead by self-inflicted means.

Me too.

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21. Bush got away with being a deserter

of course his father was the Director of the CIA at the time, so that probably kept Dubya out of the brig.

So if the SCOTUS appointment to the presidency can desert and get away with it, Bergdahl should get off too.

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26. Make sure and do everything you can, General, to harm the memory of this so Obama gets no

credit, please make sure and do that, will ya...

Make sure you make it look like Obama owed the guy money and this was his way of paying him back...

We don't swear oaths of loyalty to presidents and respect has to be earned. Even obedience demands leadership; if nothing else Obama show obey something other than his own cynical purposes.

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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 06:06:44 PM »
All they can do is bring up Bush.  This guy may have aided and abetted the enemy, and they merely scream Bush. 
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 06:06:58 PM »
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7. 5 Taliban were released to win back a deserter?

There has to be more to this.

The Obama admin can't be that stupid.

What about "that treacherous?" It's one or the other, DUmmie. Pick.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 06:26:44 PM »
Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 06:29:38 PM »
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The Obama admin can't be that stupid.
Yes. Yes they can. And you are too.

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I keep waiting for the headline that says they've found him dead by self-inflicted means.
That would be acceptable to me. Though I would prefer a court martial and a hanging.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 06:36:31 PM »
Must be the DUmbasses have a base camp at Kinkos to get more details on President Bush.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 06:48:29 PM »
OMGosh this is sickening. Even those who are starting to 'get' it can only talk about how bad this is for O'bama!  **** that!!  How bad is it for the troops who died looking for this POS and their families. Please buy a clue DUmbasses!!

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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2014, 06:57:30 PM »
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OMGosh this is sickening. Even those who are starting to 'get' it can only talk about how bad this is for O'bama!  **** that!!  How bad is it for the troops who died looking for this POS and their families. Please buy a clue DUmbasses!!

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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2014, 07:23:37 PM »


Obie is playing 3D Chess.  Benghazi? Gone.  VA? Gone.  Fast and Furious? Gone. And the GOP driven to distraction like a dog in a meat market, they got so many bones they don't know which to chew on next.  Next, paint the party as full of insane conspiracy nuts who only want to taint the first black president's legacy.   Low information voters are easy to convince.   
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2014, 07:56:54 PM »
Quote from: FlippyDoo on June 03, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?

I don't know, but I heard it was automatic due to length of service.  However, I also heard today that it's being suspended for now.

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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2014, 08:07:53 PM »
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Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?



Quote from: Dori on June 03, 2014, 07:56:54 PM
I don't know, but I heard it was automatic due to length of service.  However, I also heard today that it's being suspended for now.

Up to SPC, you can be promoted automatically.  SGT (E-5) and above has schooling requirements (NCOES) prior to promotion.  Up to E-4?  Fine..... whatever. After that, it's bullshit.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2014, 08:18:53 PM »
It's "circle the wagons" time with liberals. It's *always* circle the wagons time with liberals.

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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2014, 08:25:29 PM »
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2014, 08:50:33 PM »
Quote from: FlippyDoo on June 03, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
He accrued the required amount of time-in-grade while being "held", and received an automatic promotion in absentia.

I'm not familiar with any of the more (last 20 or so years) recent conflicts/captives, but it was not uncommon for captives in the Viet Nam conflict to be promoted while being held captive.  For example, McCain was advanced to Commander, and IIRC, Perot's running made, Admiral Stockdale was advanced to Captain while he was captive.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2014, 09:02:33 PM »
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The Obama admin can't be that stupid.

It occurred to me that Obama is guilty of so much stuff people may find it hard to believe they / he are so stupid.

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2014, 09:11:19 PM »
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I keep waiting for the headline that says they've found him dead by self-inflicted means.


Little do these DUmbshits realize, if the Regime's propaganda agencies ever report this treasonous bastard "dead by self-inflicted means", it'll be because the lad detonated his explosives belt in a elementary school yard or something.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2014, 12:28:42 AM »
Quote from: dane on June 03, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
He accrued the required amount of time-in-grade while being "held", and received an automatic promotion in absentia.

I'm not familiar with any of the more (last 20 or so years) recent conflicts/captives, but it was not uncommon for captives in the Viet Nam conflict to be promoted while being held captive.  For example, McCain was advanced to Commander, and IIRC, Perot's running made, Admiral Stockdale was advanced to Captain while he was captive.

Same thing for MIA's My Crew Chief (E-4)and Platoon Leader (O-3) went missing in 1968.  They are listed in the VN Wall as SSG and LTC.  I don't know at what point they stop promoting them.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2014, 01:43:39 AM »
Quote from: Dori on June 03, 2014, 07:56:54 PM
I don't know, but I heard it was automatic due to length of service.  However, I also heard today that it's being suspended for now.

Its automatic promotion to SPC (E4) then promotion board to SGT(E5). He would ahve stayed in the running just like any other missing service person. His promotion to SSG(E6) is on hold pending investigation.

The initial 15-6 investigation could not convict him of desertion because with him gone they could not complete the case. Now that he is back I will wait for the new 15-6 with bated breath. Barry can't allow this to get away from him. I almost think Barry will give him a presidental pardon if it starts turning 'bad' for Barry's PR.
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2014, 04:01:31 AM »
Quote from: FlippyDoo on June 03, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?

Promoted by the Taliban?

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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2014, 07:50:40 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on June 04, 2014, 01:43:39 AM
Barry can't allow this to get away from him. I almost think Barry will give him a presidental pardon if it starts turning 'bad' for Barry's PR.

Which Hillary will have to defend/contend with.
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2014, 08:00:11 AM »
You know what?  I trust our soldiers immensely and really trust their opinion.  If I saw a majority of our soldiers saying that he needed to be left alone I would step back. They wouldn't denigerate their own brother if they had any doubt in his story. Right? 

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2014, 08:20:49 AM »
Look at these assholes from the thread:

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28. If nothing else

It certainly killed the VA reporting in the media
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30. true it neutralizes the VA story all the way to the midterm elections

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**** you, DUmbasses.  Veterans are suffering and dying, for lack of healthcare.  There are plenty of us out here who will not let this be "neutralized for the midterms."  Die in a fire, assholes. 
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Re: First glimmer of The Great Unraveling flickers through the fog of their minds
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2014, 08:23:20 AM »
^I would need to lay odds.
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