job question

[snazuolu]

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work?? and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

[DLR Pyro]

Assuming you are not a troll,  yes we all work or have worked and are retired.  There are jobs to be found, just may not be the exact job paying what you want at the time.  My experience is to take a job, work hard, and rise up to a better paying job.

[marv]

I'm 75 and retired since 1992. Don't have a job and don't need one. Here's how I did it.

First job was 25¢/hour minimum wage jerkin' sodas after school. Dropped out of school, joined the USAF where I taught electronics and made $60/month (free room and board).

After discharge I went on job interviews and caught on as a casualty underwriter in the insurance industry. Made $450/month. After five years, worked for a defense contractor as a program manager. Got into computers and wound up working for the DoD as a computer systems engineer (IBM). Before retiring, I made sure my wife and I had a mortgage free home and loan free vehicles.

I worked diligently and hard and it's been a ride ever since because I was never paycheck oriented.

Jobs today? Don't vote for socialists. Look for equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Expect to start at the bottom of whatever you can find. If you have a degree in basket weaving, give it to your neighbor so he can start his BBQ. There are "Help Wanted" signs around if you look for them.

[DLR Pyro]

I'm 75 and retired since 1992. Don't have a job and don't need one. Here's how I did it.

First job was 25¢/hour minimum wage jerkin' sodas after school. Dropped out of school, joined the USAF where I taught electronics and made $60/month (free room and board).

After discharge I went on job interviews and caught on as a casualty underwriter in the insurance industry. Made $450/month. After five years, worked for a defense contractor as a program manager. Got into computers and wound up working for the DoD as a computer systems engineer (IBM). Before retiring, I made sure my wife and I had a mortgage free home and loan free vehicles.

I worked diligently and hard and it's been a ride ever since because I was never paycheck oriented.

translation: nothing is handed to you and you are entitled to nothing other than what you earn yourself.

[Gern]

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work?? and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

I feel they are either not focused enough on finding employment, or more likely unwilling to take jobs that are available until they find something more commensurate with their previous salary range. 

Alternatively, unemployment benefits are overly generous to the point of being a disincentive for people to find work that they are capable of doing, but feel is beneath them, and I can't say I blame them. If you can collect $400 a week for doing nothing, why bother taking a $12 an hour job that pays about the same after taxes?

Simple as that.

[Dori]

how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

I've never had a problem finding work.  Maybe it's not in a field you want, or maybe you would have to move to a location that has the jobs, but they are out there.

The longest I was ever out of work was two months and I spent those 60 days "working" hard to find a job.  I've known a few people who have been out of work since the so called down turn, but they didn't put much effort into finding work until their unemployment was about to run out and then what do you know, they found a job.

[Big Dog]

translation: nothing is handed to you and you are entitled to nothing other than what you earn yourself.

 

[formerlurker]

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work?? and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

Do you work, and how do you feel about those who can't find a job (assuming they are in fact looking)?

[Gern]

The longest I was ever out of work was two months and I spent those 60 days "working" hard to find a job.  I've known a few people who have been out of work since the so called down turn, but they didn't put much effort into finding work until their unemployment was about to run out and then what do you know, they found a job.

I see you've met my brother.

He was laid off in the fall of 2008.  He got 26 weeks, plus another 26 emergency extension when that ran out, then another 2 or three extensions for a total of 99 weeks of unemployment.

If you don't believe me, he wasn't the only one:

WHEN 99 WEEKS OF UNEMPLOYMENT RUN OUT

All that while, when we would chat, he assured me he was "looking hard" and sending out "hundreds" of resumes.

When the 99 weeks ran out, about 3 weeks later, magically, he found a job!  Hallelujah!  What a coincidence!

I have zero sympathy for people who go almost 2 years and "can't" find work.  They can find work; they just don't want to do it because their benefits are too generous.  Like I said, I can't say I blame them.

[Gern]

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work?? and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

So what say you, Mr. Post and Run?  How do you feel?  Is 99 weeks of unemployment at $400 a week enough, or should it be unlimited?

[Big Dog]

Second post, and you're already raising eyebrows. Why don't you tell us your opinion, and start the conversation with something besides an open question?

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work??

I work 40 hours a week, operate a part-time business on the side, and write for fun and money. In the past I have worked two full-time jobs simultaneously, and have also been employed full-time while serving in the Army National Guard. In the past 33 years, the longest I have not  been employed full-time was four months.

and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

"Feel"? Feelings are immaterial. A stranger's "feelings" about me are meaningless to me, as my opinion of a stranger should be meaningless to him. DUmmies and other collectivists don't seem to be able to understand that.

"Finding a job" is expecting someone else to hire you, which means having skills demanded by employers. Most people I have met who are chronically unemployed don't make the offort to gain marketable skills, preferring to suckle on the government teat while complaining about how no one will "give" them a job.

Bottom line: If you can't make a living working for yourself, and you won't make yourself marketable to employers, you have no one to blame but yourself- and you shouldn't be paid from my wallet and those of every other hard working person.

[MrsSmith]

I assumed I'd be a stay-home mom, maybe work part-time...but was stupid enough to marry an abusive man.  After the divorce, he committed suicide, so my 3 kids and I ended up living on $650 a month Survivor's benefit (because we were divorced, all his estate and life insurance was put up for our kids.) I got an Associates of Science in Electronics, had my 4th kid just before graduation, and a few months later found a MINIMUM WAGE JOB.  **GASP**  After 30 days, they gave me a nickel raise, but at least I was above minimum wage, right?

After 5 years at that job, I got a job at the local hospital.  I kept it for 7 years, until I remarried, then found work with a hospital system closer to my husband's children.  I've been at that place for over 11 years now, and we're finally doing well enough that we now have 10 acres and a fairly nice home.  

Know how I got here?  I KEPT MY JOBS.  I've seem many, many people fail, the vast majority because they did something stupid to lose a job (coming to work drunk or high, no-call-no-show, failing drug tests, or just quitting when they got mad.)  The most repeated advice I've given my 7 kids is Get and Job, and then Keep IT, no matter how much it sucks, you hate it, your boss is a jerk...until you get a better job!  The ones that listened are VERY successful.  

[seahorse513]

Another way, is too stay with your job, stand back at look at the big picture. I got my associates degree 3 years ago in business, while waiting for the right opportunity' Even though it was rough at times, I held strong... Doing sewing and my own business making things, also I was promoted two months ago to dept mgr.

[Eupher]

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work?? and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

I've been in the work force for 40 years and counting. I've got about 5 more before I tell my employer to pound sand.

I don't buy your statement "people who can't find a job today." Work is available. All over.

[seahorse513]

The jobs are out there. I think higher education is a plus. One might have to start entry level, in an area and be willing to take a cut in pay, go to a community college or whatever, and buckle down, and prove to a prospective employer that you have what it takes. Even volunteering, even if you have too... The question is how much do YOU want this, are YOU willing to invest energy, money, time into the desired field? One great example on this board is Celtic Rose... Not only did she go to college, but she moved far away from her family to pursue a career, and is thriving...

[Gern]

Posted by: snazuolu

Hello all, i'm new here and wasnt quite sure if this belonged in this part or not, but i have a question concerning jobs. do all of you on here work?? and if so, how do you feel about people who cant find a job today??

BS for a hit and run post.

[NHSparky]

What do you consider "work", noob?

What I have done would be more than most people would want to handle, both in terms of working conditions (mostly outside) and hours (currently anywhere from 40 hours to 70-plus per week.)  My compensation has run from so-so (if $700/month plus a BEQ room and chow hall is so-so) to top 10 percent AGI income per IRS figures.

I have two bills these days--my mortgage and my truck, and within about 7-10 years, I will have neither.  I'll have plenty of money in my retirement accounts and my own savings.

It's not about what you do that day.  It's about where you want to go, and how hard you're willing to work, study, etc., to get to that point. 

Bottom line, if you expect someone to give it to you, take a hike.  There are 100 people out there who will leave their footprints on your back.

[snazuolu]

sorry for taking so long to respond. i want to thank everyone for your comments. it helped me get an idea of what to expect around here once people learned of my situation. I'm a single 41 yr old male who has been homeless since Apr of 2013. i am a veteran and have an associates degree in electronics and a bachelors degree in public relations. i never got any unemployment and i am on food stamps currently till June of this year. unfortunately, i have been unable to find work from fast food stores to walmarts and dollar stores. i realize that the jobs lost arent coming back, but i do have some hope left that new jobs will be created eventually. i'm sure that most on here will probably have a low opinion of me, and i cant say i blame you. one thing i have learned from being homeless is that life is about winners and losers, and i'm not a winner by far. but in hte meantime, i keep coming to the library and trying to figure out what to do next. too much time is definitely a killer as boredom sets in right easy.

[Gern]

sorry for taking so long to respond. i want to thank everyone for your comments. it helped me get an idea of what to expect around here once people learned of my situation. I'm a single 41 yr old male who has been homeless since Apr of 2012. i am a veteran and have an associates degree in electronics and a bachelors degree in public relations. i never got any unemployment and i am on food stamps currently till June of this year. unfortunately, i have been unable to find work from fast food stores to walmarts and dollar stores. i realize that the jobs lost arent coming back, but i do have some hope left that new jobs will be created eventually. i'm sure that most on here will probably have a low opinion of me, and i cant say i blame you. one thing i have learned from being homeless is that life is about winners and losers, and i'm not a winner by far. but in hte meantime, i keep coming to the library and trying to figure out what to do next. too much time is definitely a killer as boredom sets in right easy.

Assuming you're telling the truth, then I have a link for you.  Forget all about your present circumstances and listen to it with an open mind, and you'll get the help you need from it.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y5g2Pe08uc[/youtube]

[Scoobie]

sorry for taking so long to respond. i want to thank everyone for your comments. it helped me get an idea of what to expect around here once people learned of my situation. I'm a single 41 yr old male who has been homeless since Apr of 2012. i am a veteran and have an associates degree in electronics and a bachelors degree in public relations. i never got any unemployment and i am on food stamps currently till June of this year. unfortunately, i have been unable to find work from fast food stores to walmarts and dollar stores. i realize that the jobs lost arent coming back, but i do have some hope left that new jobs will be created eventually. i'm sure that most on here will probably have a low opinion of me, and i cant say i blame you. one thing i have learned from being homeless is that life is about winners and losers, and i'm not a winner by far. but in hte meantime, i keep coming to the library and trying to figure out what to do next. too much time is definitely a killer as boredom sets in right easy.

It is not your unemployment status, or even your homelessness, that will determine what others here think of you. It is your attitude, motivation, and willingness to make a better situation for yourself which will determine posters "opinion of you".

It is curious, however, the attitude you display in your post above, without giving any detail as to how you ended up in your situation. My guess would be that your negative attitude and the fact you think yourself a "loser" might have something to do with it. You'll get no sympathy for that here, if that is what you are looking for.

[Dori]

sorry for taking so long to respond. i want to thank everyone for your comments. it helped me get an idea of what to expect around here once people learned of my situation. I'm a single 41 yr old male who has been homeless since Apr of 2012. i am a veteran and have an associates degree in electronics and a bachelors degree in public relations. i never got any unemployment and i am on food stamps currently till June of this year. unfortunately, i have been unable to find work from fast food stores to walmarts and dollar stores. i realize that the jobs lost arent coming back, but i do have some hope left that new jobs will be created eventually. i'm sure that most on here will probably have a low opinion of me, and i cant say i blame you. one thing i have learned from being homeless is that life is about winners and losers, and i'm not a winner by far. but in hte meantime, i keep coming to the library and trying to figure out what to do next. too much time is definitely a killer as boredom sets in right easy.

Sorry to hear about your situation.  Can you say why your homeless?  What about friends and family? 

There should be some veterans help for you.  What have you found out about that? 

[snazuolu]

i was layed off from my job as electronic tech back at the end of 08. i decided to go back to college and get my BA degree and i graduated in may of 2012. since that time, i havent found anything. as to looking for sympathy, no thats not my intention. my only intention here is discussion. as to friends, i dont have any. the way i look at it, who wants to be friends with a homeless person anyways. as for family, they just think i'm slacking off and they dont have anything to do with me anymore, at least till i get a job again.

[Dori]

i was layed off from my job as electronic tech back at the end of 08. i decided to go back to college and get my BA degree and i graduated in may of 2012. since that time, i havent found anything. as to looking for sympathy, no thats not my intention. my only intention here is discussion. as to friends, i dont have any. the way i look at it, who wants to be friends with a homeless person anyways. as for family, they just think i'm slacking off and they dont have anything to do with me anymore, at least till i get a job again.

What kinds of agencies have you tried?  What about a temporary agency? 

[freedumb2003b]

i was layed off from my job as electronic tech back at the end of 08. i decided to go back to college and get my BA degree and i graduated in may of 2012. since that time, i havent found anything. as to looking for sympathy, no thats not my intention. my only intention here is discussion. as to friends, i dont have any. the way i look at it, who wants to be friends with a homeless person anyways. as for family, they just think i'm slacking off and they dont have anything to do with me anymore, at least till i get a job again.

What does "electronic tech" mean?  What was your new degree in?

I have had 3 jobs since I graduated from college in the 70s.  I do IT (ERPs) but the most important thing I have done is keep "my tools sharp" by always keeping my education up to date.  In my industry I am an old fart but I am very much sought-after since I take my 3+ decades experience and overlay it with the latest techo-trends.  I have personal contact lines with cutting-edge people (but I happily stay one step behind that edge).

Have you done the same?  If not, do you plan to?  This is beyond just learnin' stuff...

[Big Dog]

sorry for taking so long to respond. i want to thank everyone for your comments. it helped me get an idea of what to expect around here once people learned of my situation. I'm a single 41 yr old male who has been homeless since Apr of 2013. i am a veteran and have an associates degree in electronics and a bachelors degree in public relations. i never got any unemployment and i am on food stamps currently till June of this year. unfortunately, i have been unable to find work from fast food stores to walmarts and dollar stores. i realize that the jobs lost arent coming back, but i do have some hope left that new jobs will be created eventually. i'm sure that most on here will probably have a low opinion of me, and i cant say i blame you. one thing i have learned from being homeless is that life is about winners and losers, and i'm not a winner by far. but in hte meantime, i keep coming to the library and trying to figure out what to do next. too much time is definitely a killer as boredom sets in right easy.

Let me see if I got this straight. You live on the street, and go to the library to use the Internet- and you're wasting time on CC? You don't need us to hold hands and sing Kum-Ba-Ya with you. You need a good, motivational, kick in the ass.

Why aren't you working on improving your situation? No one is going to "give" you a job with a worthless BA and no job skills. If you really are a homeless Veteran, your local Job Service office has a Veterans outreach specialist who can tell you about, and  place you in, a vocational training program. Learn a trade- welding, heavy equipment operation, truck driving, HVAC, plumbing- the list is endless.

Get your ass out there and make yourself desirable to employers - and have some dignity, for Christ's sake. Fake it if you have to.