Denizens of DU attack Obama

[Big Dog]

Know your enemy and keep them close.

The DUmpmonkey has obviously never read The Art of War.

If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

[Chris_]

Your willingness to subject yourself to people and ideas you can't stand just to say you can says more about your mental disease than it does that group. I will smile knowing there are fools like you expending your time in such a negative and unproductive way while driving ad revenue to DU your hated enemy.

Ad revenue implies one is clicking on said advertising and making a purchase.  Consuming bandwidth does not equal ad income.

Again, you get it wrong.

[EagleKeeper]

The DUmpmonkey has obviously never read The Art of War.

If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

Here is another fun one...

If you sit by the river long enough the bodies or your enemies will float past.

[Pretzel Warrior]

Ad revenue implies one is clicking on said advertising and making a purchase.  Consuming bandwidth does not equal ad income.

Again, you get it wrong.

Not all advertising is CPC or CPA. Quite a few (that a non-commercial high traffic site like DU might pursue) pay on CPM (cost per 1000 views). With DU averaging 100k unique visitors back in 2011 and probably higher in election years...I'd say they welcome your visits even if you never click on an ad.

[txradioguy]

It's the only way for a conservative to survive on DU, after all we require access to your super secret clubs so that we can keep an eye on you.

^^ This

[98ZJUSMC]

Oh, and I'm accused of moving the goal posts. I was assured that Mr. Allen over at DU has put the kibosh on any negative posts about Obama!  

And to answer your implication that large post counts equal protection from the ban hammer, what happened to Taverner and dfk?

Oh, please.  According to at least 70% of the (D)ump, the ObingaJunta is nowhere near left enough.  Most of you helmet children simply adore him because he's almost half-black.

Grow up.

[98ZJUSMC]

(....) trying to convince me DU is the quintessential free and open forum of ideas.  (....)

 

[EagleKeeper]

^^ This

Yeah, if it was me I'd throw a few pennys your way as long as I got a view into things that interest me about you folkes.

[98ZJUSMC]

Not all advertising is CPC or CPA. Quite a few (that a non-commercial high traffic site like DU might pursue) pay on CPM (cost per 1000 views). With DU averaging 100k unique visitors back in 2011 and probably higher in election years...I'd say they welcome your visits even if you never click on an ad.

Just think.  If you ever get ten times that much (I know, I know), you may be a tiny probe in the Drudge galaxy.

Huzzah!!

[txradioguy]

and not only are they not tombstoned, the posts are allowed to stand.  I guess you guys was wrong!!

Not hardly.  Lets take this back to 2004 and start from there shall we?

Then came the primary season of 2004. The discord between Kerry and Dean supporters (especially) was so jarring to DU’s former peace that the administrators gave primary discussions the Guns and Religion treatment: a room of their own. That year I first noticed the rapid disappearance of certain of my fellow DUers as they were painfully and very publicly banned. Most of them, unless my biased memory is distorted, were Howard Dean supporters. Being a Dean supporter myself, I received an invitation by personal message to join an off -campus site where Dean people could freely trash our enemies on DU, but I had too many friends among the Kerry crowd back “home”  so I decided to stick it out. Nevertheless I was getting the sense, for the first time, that there was a bias among the administrators of DU and if you didn’t share it, your days were numbered.

http://tragicfarce.com/2011/12/02/democraticunderground-and-the-fracturing-of-the-democratic-grass-roots/

That was just to establish that long before Obama...DU was in the habit of silencing anyone who spoke out against their favorite candidate.

Now lets fast forward.

Before the changeover to DU3, which I wrote about in my last post, Democratic Underground’s rules for posting in its forums were last modified in August of this year, about a month before the #OWS movement was front-page news. “Failure to abide by these rules,” the introduction to them warned, “may result in your post being removed, your thread locked, or your posting privileges revoked without warning.” A sampling demonstrates the administration’s bare tolerance for politics left of the Democratic center:
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ʉۢThis is a website for Democrats and other progressives [sic].
ʉۢDo not personally attack any individual DU member in any way. Do not post broad-brush attacks, rude nicknames, or crude insults toward a group of DU members.
 
…
ʉۢDo not post support for non-viable or third-party spoiler candidates in any general election.
ʉۢDo not post disrespectful nicknames, crude insults, or right-wing smears against Democrats.
 
On the face of it, the second bullet point, adapted from many previous iterations, looks like a fair (and balanced) warning to both sides of the primary wars of 2008–team Obama and team HRC–not to attack each other. Not being inside the administrators’ heads, I won’t presume that they didn’t intend it to be taken that way. The effect, however, was that by the time those revised rules were posted, most of team HRC had long before either been driven underground or “tombstoned”–as a ban from DU was called because of the image of a tombstone (with the epitaph “Here lies a disruptor. He disrupted badly.”) that replaced the offender’s avatar on their member profile page. But those primary wars had continued by proxy, it seemed to me, in battles with moderators and more and more with a stable of Obama faithfuls who were quick to gang up on anyone who made the slightest criticism of the president’s performance.

http://tragicfarce.com/2011/12/16/fractured-dems-part-4-the-rightward-drift-of-democraticunderground/?relatedposts_exclude=1035

And finally:

Is it wrong or paranoid to think imprecise terms like “kooks” and “crackpots” are intended to allow the admins arbitrary exclusionary criteria as needed–say, when someone with an Obama or DNC avatar–even one who is on record as intending to vote for Obama in the general election–expresses a little too much support for #ows’s calling out Obama or Democrats for hypocrisies?
 
It’s certainly clear that DU is now officially hostile to anyone who is not supporting “the Democrats.” No questioning, no challenging, no venting of frustrations with Democratic hypocrisy and compromise of liberal principle allowed. No exceptions.
 
Is this how the “biggest liberal board” on the internet thinks it’s going to remain on top? Will it succeed?
 
To be continued…

http://tragicfarce.com/2011/12/16/fractured-dems-part-4-the-rightward-drift-of-democraticunderground/?relatedposts_exclude=1035


Now PW...you were saying?

ETA:  Just so you know...the person writing this is the Tombstoned former DUmmie known as Burt Worm.

[EagleKeeper]

That does beg the question pretz, when did you join DU.

If you don't care to answer I can look it up here.

[98ZJUSMC]

Do not post support for non-viable or third-party spoiler candidates in any general election

Gee.....how tolerant and diverse,  comrade.

[EagleKeeper]

Do not post support for non-viable or third-party spoiler candidates in any general election

Well shoot, that kinda leaves Bernie out.

Grumble!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

How many conservatives run around thanking Republican presidents for new government programs and more dependency?

Show us those posts, you little sycophant.

[whiffleball]

Lame.  Those are what you consider to be 'attacks'?  I read some criticism carefully worded to avoid the ban hammer.  I suppose to the easily offended, hyper sensitive, cult of personality those remarks will leave permanent wounds.

[Traveshamockery]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm ready to put the Pretzel Logic Dumbass on my iggy list, and I don't put people on ignore here.  As I have witnessed on most all discussion boards, liberals obfuscate, lie, and generally ignore facts and logic.  They are needy, emotionally weak, and just plain stupid.  Pretzel Logic is a prime example of the idiocy and warped thinking that all liberals possess. 

These are the same people who insist there is a republican war on women yet embrace Islam and believe there is a place in this country for Muslims who believe women are second-class citizens.  But, but, but Sandra Fluke needs free birth control and access to taxpayer-funded abortions.  Yeah, that. 

After a lifetime of experience of how conservatism lifts up a society and liberalism fails, I don't need to do any more research into just how liberalism and socialism permanently damages a country, and I don't need to hear anymore of Pretzel Logic's stupid arguments. 

Goodbye, Pretzel Logic. 

 

[Freeper]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm ready to put the Pretzel Logic Dumbass on my iggy list, and I don't put people on ignore here.  As I have witnessed on most all discussion boards, liberals obfuscate, lie, and generally ignore facts and logic.  They are needy, emotionally weak, and just plain stupid.  Pretzel Logic is a prime example of the idiocy and warped thinking that all liberals possess. 

These are the same people who insist there is a republican war on women yet embrace Islam and believe there is a place in this country for Muslims who believe women are second-class citizens.  But, but, but Sandra Fluke needs free birth control and access to taxpayer-funded abortions.  Yeah, that. 

After a lifetime of experience of how conservatism lifts up a society and liberalism fails, I don't need to do any more research into just how liberalism and socialism permanently damages a country, and I don't need to hear anymore of Pretzel Logic's stupid arguments. 

Goodbye, Pretzel Logic. 

 

You bully!

[Traveshamockery]

You bully!

You forgot racist!   

[njpines]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm ready to put the Pretzel Logic Dumbass on my iggy list, and I don't put people on ignore here.  As I have witnessed on most all discussion boards, liberals obfuscate, lie, and generally ignore facts and logic.  They are needy, emotionally weak, and just plain stupid.  Pretzel Logic is a prime example of the idiocy and warped thinking that all liberals possess. 

These are the same people who insist there is a republican war on women yet embrace Islam and believe there is a place in this country for Muslims who believe women are second-class citizens.  But, but, but Sandra Fluke needs free birth control and access to taxpayer-funded abortions.  Yeah, that. 

After a lifetime of experience of how conservatism lifts up a society and liberalism fails, I don't need to do any more research into just how liberalism and socialism permanently damages a country, and I don't need to hear anymore of Pretzel Logic's stupid arguments. 

Goodbye, Pretzel Logic. 

 

I'm with you, Traves. I have no one on ignore but I'm going to make an exception in this case if only not to see the Liar-in-Chief's avatar. Besides, I lose IQ points every time I read one of his ridiculous posts.

See ya, you cheerleader of the ruiner of this great country.

[wasp69]

and not only are they not tombstoned, the posts are allowed to stand.  I guess you guys was wrong!!

Interesting.  You chose threads from cali bitching about TPP and Gitmo, two from Manny that are couched in such a way as to not look like criticism.  There's one I would like to present, one that I would like to see you defend. 

DUmmie veteran dfk made the mistake of not chugging the obamacare kool aid and daring to illuminate your collective with information not approved by the commissars.  For this she was declared a heretic, a mole, a "freeper troll", an unperson if you will.  And, after her extermination by Elad, your DUmp mates commenced to shucking and jiving over her digital carcass.  Then, they chain dragged her through the streets of $kinner's internet Mogadishu.

I think DUmmie ScreamingMeemie sums it up pretty well:

Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:23 PM

Star Member ScreamingMeemie (62,806 posts)
35. I have done two terms on MIRT and served as a moderator on DU2.

I am not, after over 10 years, blind to the ways that DU works. It is something to worry about. It's happened before. For some, being on DU is almost a job. Collect "evidence," push posters to their limits, alert, alert, and alert again. Admin is not perfect and mistakes have been made. I lost several good friends in one such purge. All of them staunch liberals who were sticking up for their rights.

Yes, it is something to worry about.

I vote for Democrats, but I often don't like their decisions. I refuse to support bad decisions as if I were in the stands of a football game. I want to be represented, not just have a "D" in office. That isn't liked very much around these parts anymore...the actually holding lawmakers accountable for decisions that we would have banded together against when an "R" was in office.

And so, causal games of baiting are begun...hoping and waiting for someone to slip up, post something, and alert. And then alert again, and again. Yes. It happens.

Am I glad dkf is gone? Quite; the poster was only here to stir the pot. Should I be banned someday because I abhor the current administration's allowing of drones? Hell no, because that's a Democratic value.

There is a difference between a troll and someone you don't agree with. Too many times we get that messed up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023923079#post35

Then again, you already know all about these things - DUmmies getting shown the door for daring to disagree, don't you?  Because you were there when it happened and lamented the sad state of affairs on DU.

Response to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:30 PM

Star Member Pretzel_Warrior (5,577 posts)
46. agree

You said:

There is a difference between a troll and someone you don't agree with. Too many times we get that messed up.

Yep.....I agree that is the difficulty.

So you know exactly the type of things we are talking about, yet you seek to deny them?  Isn't that a bit.... dishonest?

[wasp69]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm ready to put the Pretzel Logic Dumbass on my iggy list..

Goodbye, Pretzel Logic. 

[Freeper]

You forgot racist!  

That was implied.

[njpines]

Thanks Wasp -- I forgot the PLONK!!!!

[Traveshamockery]

OMGOMGOMGOMG!   

I am going to copy and paste that one, if you don't mind! 

[wasp69]

OMGOMGOMGOMG!   

I am going to copy and paste that one, if you don't mind! 

I snagged it from the nadin machine, it's as much yours as mine.