Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool

[Freeper]

If everyone was going to get paid 33k a year to sit on their ass who would bother going to work?

[RobJohnson]

 When I asked for an allowance for my chores, my mom told me that they were my expected contribution to the household, not something I should be paid for.  I babysat in my early teens for my spending money, and got a job at 17 for more steady spending money

Same here. I grew up in a rural sub division. I did a lot of baby sitting and helping out people on farms and realatives that had things that needed done. This started when I was about 13.  The kids I knew that were given nice allowances for doing nothing at home turned out pretty lazy. I was doing body work, mechanical work and painting cars in the garage before I was even old enough to drive cars.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

If everyone was going to get paid 33k a year to sit on their ass who would bother going to work?

Which in turn leads to: if no one needs to work where are the taxes going to come from to pay everyone to not work?

[Freeper]

Which in turn leads to: if no one needs to work where are the taxes going to come from to pay everyone to not work?

Exactly.

[Chris_]

I made a mistake in my previous post.  Giving every American over the age of 18 a thousand dollars a month for an entire year would cost $2.8 TRILLION dollars. Since the Census website is down due to the federal shutdown () I had to use figures from another site.  You can do the math yourself.

All these liberal wet dreams would never work.  This country just doesn't have the tax base to support that kind of insanity.

[Freeper]

I made a mistake in my previous post.  Giving every American over the age of 18 a thousand dollars a month for an entire year would cost $2.8 TRILLION dollars. Since the Census website is down due to the federal shutdown () I had to use figures from another site.  You can do the math yourself.

All these liberal wet dreams would never work.  This country just doesn't have the tax base to support that kind of insanity.

Just raise taxes and make the Koch brothers bleed!!!!!!!1111111

[Chris_]

$2.8 trillion is slightly less than what Bush spent in his entire final budget (2008) and liberals went nuts about overspending and deficits, and that was with Pelosi and Reid in charge of Congress.

I wonder where those same libs are today.

[Chris_]

Just raise taxes and make the Koch brothers bleed!!!!!!!1111111

90%! 90%!!

[Big Dog]

Even I will concede that $50k/year is extraordinary and excessive, but that just shows how far the U.S. is out of line with all the rest of the liberal democracies in the world.  Personally, I'd be happy with a $1,000.00/month ($12k/year) minimum income.  No doubt, most of the posters on CC would consider this outrageous.  No surprise, really.  Heaven forbid, we might be giving a little money to people who are undeserving.



-Laelth

You are free to do exactly that. Donate any money you make beyond $12,000 a year to someone whom you deem "undeserving".

[Skul]

Sorry, my freind, the United States is awesome--the greatest empire the world has ever seen, and I am proud of it. It could be better, admittedly, but that's another question altogether.  We spend less than all the other liberal democracies on the planet (as a percentage of GDP) protecting our poor people, and that's shameful, but it would be easy for us to guarantee every American citizen a minimum income of $12k/year.  Why aren't we doing that?



-Laelth

Try earning it. You're not owed a thing. If the rest of the socialist twits want to support slugs, so be it.
There is nothing "right" about supporting slugs, nothing.
You little twerps just think that "being", gives you the right to steal from those that earn.
cat-sand-mallet   Some assembly required.

[biersmythe]

This is why Proglodytes don't deserve to live as free people, if at all.

You idiot whores cried for free birth control, then as soon as the government was about to shutdown you cried your birth control was going to be taken away.

Golly! If you didn't come to rely on the government then you wouldn't be threatened by political winds taking away from you what you could easily do for yourself.

If you want money, earn it. People don't deserve shit just because their parents made the mistake of letting their worthless asses live.

HI5 agreed these peeps don't deserve handouts they deserve Total Cranial Evacuations!

 

[Big Don]

Why?  Should we just "give" everyone a guaranteed $50k a year?  Do you even realize how that would affect the prices of the essentials, food/gas/etc.?

If we abolished Welfare, food stamps, Wic, Section 8 etc, we'd probably save money

[RobJohnson]

If everyone was going to get paid 33k a year to sit on their ass who would bother going to work?

Many people in the United States already get cash and benefits that exceed that once you include Section 8, EBT, Medicaid, Cash, SSI for the kids, etc.

[diesel driver]

Basic economics is one of those things that has to be left out of the batch when a leftist is stirred up.

Along with basic common sense, basic knowledge, basic understanding, basic "life skills"...

IOW, all the "basics".

[txradioguy]

Sorry, my freind, the United States is awesome--the greatest empire the world has ever seen, and I am proud of it. It could be better, admittedly, but that's another question altogether.

We're not an Empire.  We are a country.  Only you Libtard idiots in D.C. think were some kind of Empire spreading evil around the globe.

It could be better...we could run all of you Liberal Socialist Utopia mastermind types OUT of here.  

We spend less than all the other liberal democracies on the planet (as a percentage of GDP) protecting our poor people, and that's shameful, but it would be easy for us to guarantee every American citizen a minimum income of $12k/year.  Why aren't we doing that?



-Laelth

We spend nearly 16% of our GDP on social welfare programs and it's expanding rapidly under this Administration.

I know that 12K a year may sound great to you and your boss up on the Hill...but again it also shows how out of touch with reality you inside the beltway types are.

What's going to happen when you have more people taking idiotic free stuff like this than you have workers to tax to pay for your moronic scheme?

That money HAS to come from somewhere.  And unless you plan on going to a 90% tax rate on everyone working you'll soon have more people on the dole than providing revenue to the Government via federal income taxes.  You're expenditures  will greatly outpace your income in no time.

Then what? What's going to happen to your little scheme when 75 - 80% of the people are taking this money instead of working?

Congratulations you've just destroyed any incentive an American has to work.  Which I think is part of the plan.

You libs NEVER think about the consequences of your actions...you're too tied up and invested in the emotion of the act and the optics to care about the nuts and bolts reality.

On and lastly we're not a "Liberal Democracy" were a Constitutional Representative Republic.

[Laelth]

Maybe you should look to spread my work ethic and determination? 

Interesting proposal.  How could we accomplish this?  Wouldn't it require massive state/government intrusion?

-Laelth

[JohnnyReb]

Interesting proposal.  How could we accomplish this?  Wouldn't it require massive state/government intrusion?-Laelth

NOPE. Being hungry is a great motivator.

[Laelth]

Because they're getting 5 times that in services already? 

I wouldn't mind expanding the services or starting up the WPA or the CCC again to give jobs to people who are capable of working.  I assumed that proposal would be toxic here at CC.

-Laelth

[Laelth]

Laelth...where does this free money come from?

I am not sure how the Swiss have their government finances set up, but I am guessing they plan to pay these checks out of their general treasury.

-Laelth

[JohnnyReb]

I am not sure how the Swiss have their government finances set up, but I am guessing they plan to pay these checks out of their general treasury.

-Laelth

Oh, so they've tapped the other end of that bottomless hole in the ground where all things come from for free.

[Laelth]

NOPE. Being hungry is a great motivator.

Kind of like a boot-camp prerequisite for any kind of government assistance--the "Learn to Be Like wasp69" training camp?

-Laelth

[wasp69]

I wouldn't mind expanding the services or starting up the WPA or the CCC again to give jobs to people who are capable of working.  I assumed that proposal would be toxic here at CC.

-Laelth

Considering how well it didn't do the first time....

[JohnnyReb]

Kind of like a boot-camp prerequisite for any kind of government assistance--the "Learn to Be Like wasp69" training camp?

-Laelth

You know, if you're up this late you could have worked the night shift....if you're up this early, you could be heading in to work.

Why don't you do that instead of begging for freebies?

[Laelth]

Yes, because America is so awful.  Giving every adult over the age of 18 a thousand dollars a year would cost roughly $250 billion per year.  The federal government already spends more than twice that on public welfare.

When does the gravy train stop?  Or would you be willing to trade one for the other?

America is excellent, but it can be better.  As always, the liberal instinct is to tinker.  Try one program and see if it works.  If it does, keep it (until the problem is solved).  If it doesn't, get rid of it.  With that mind-set, it's difficult for me to say when this "gravy train" would stop.  We'd stop it, I assume, when it no longer served its intended function or if we discovered that the program's benefits are outweighed by its costs.

I am not following your "trade one for the other" line of thought.  Care to expand upon that?

-Laelth

[Laelth]

You know, if you're up this late you could have worked the night shift....if you're up this early, you could be heading in to work.

Why don't you do that instead of begging for freebies?

I'm just responding to people who have responded to my comments.  It might seem rude to ignore them, and I always miss a few, here, as lots of people want to take a bite out of this liberal chew-toy.  I'm providing a public service.

 

-Laelth