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House votes to defund Obamacare
« on: September 20, 2013, 10:53:39 AM »
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House Republicans passed their stopgap funding bill Friday to keep government open while terminating the new health care law, setting up a final showdown next week with Senate Democrats and President Obama who have firmly rejected that.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 12:59:55 PM »
It won't pass the Senate.  Reid will probably put Obamacare funding back in it, the Dems will pass it and then they'll throw it back to the House.

Then what?

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 03:19:11 PM »
It won't pass the Senate.  Reid will probably put Obamacare funding back in it, the Dems will pass it and then they'll throw it back to the House.

Then what?



Do a Harry Reid style dunk shot......right into file 13.....that's the same place Reid files things he doesn't like.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 03:21:05 PM »
I think the republican's need to push this to the max.  It's their future.






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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 04:55:26 PM »
I think the republican's need to push this to the max.  It's their future.
I agree 100%
But I'm also counting down the hours until Boehner caves. He is a man who has no guts.
The only reason it has gotten this far is a revolt among the GOP conservatives.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 05:02:07 PM »
I think the republican's need to push this to the max.  It's their future.

Conservatives will. REPUBLICANS on the other hand, will push only so far as they have to in order to fool their constituency into thinking they aren't completely in the tank for the commie progressives. :banghead:
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 05:30:54 PM »
I agree 100%
But I'm also counting down the hours until Boehner caves. He is a man who has no guts.
The only reason it has gotten this far is a revolt among the GOP conservatives.

HEHE you have more faith then I do for the weasel my friend...Ill bet he was on the bathroom floor with the shakes minutes after the vote.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2013, 06:13:23 PM »
I just don't understand the lack of political "guts" on the part of republicans.

Why are they NOT hammering the message of WHY we have bummer HELLcare............the democrats rammed it through without any republican support and now want to continue ramming it down the throats of the American people.

Republicans keep letting the democrats eat their lunch on issues without so much as a whimper. When it comes to politics, republicans are totally INCOMPETENT.  :loser:

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2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 08:45:32 PM »
2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare

September 20, 2013 - 1:53 PM By Terence P. Jeffrey

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(CNSNews.com) - The 230-189 vote in the House of Reprsesentatives to approve a continuing resolution that will fund the rest of the government after Sept. 30—but not fund Obamacare—was not strictly along party lines. Two Democrats joined with the Republican majority in voting for the Obamacare-defunding CR, and one Republican voted against the CR. The two Democrats who broke ranks with their party were Rep. Mike McIntyre of North Carolina and Rep. Jim Matheson of Utah--both of whom survived in last fall's elections by very thin vote margins. McIntyre eeked out one of the closest congressional victories in the country in 2012, winning re-election in North Carolina's 7th congressional district by only 655 votes. His narrow victory over Republican candidate David Rouzer was not called until three weeks after election day, following a recount. Matheson, who represents the 4th district of Utah, defeated Republican candidate Mia Love by just 768 votes. Meanwhile, 6,439 votes in that race went to Libertarian candidate Jim Vein.

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Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 09:28:57 PM »
If it should be brought to a vote in the senate (which I doubt) some dems will probably vote for it there too because of the 2014 elections.

Who was the Republican who voted against it?
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Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 09:32:58 PM »
If it should be brought to a vote in the senate (which I doubt) some dems will probably vote for it there too because of the 2014 elections.

Who was the Republican who voted against it?

Further down the article, it was a Rep from VA. He cited its lack of addressing sequester that will hurt the military.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2013, 09:38:13 PM »
I can do without my SS check a hell of a lot longer than Obama voters can do without their foodstamps, section 8, disability checks, welfare, Obamaphones, Medicaid, Medicare, student loans................................................ 

I doubt it will get that far for a government shut down, but, Obama is vindictive as hell, so who knows.  If it would help him politically, he would want it to be as painful as possible for the people, just to punish Republicans.  He doesn't give a crap about the country....what he did with the sequestration has proven that. 
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Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2013, 10:04:41 AM »
Well I for one am glad for the two dems votes, but I suffer no illusions it was more out of saving their skins than they think its the right thing to do for the country. 
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Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2013, 10:16:11 AM »
Well I for one am glad for the two dems votes, but I suffer no illusions it was more out of saving their skins than they think its the right thing to do for the country. 

Precisely.

Jim Matheson is the guy who BARELY squeaked out a win over Mia Love (768 votes, IIRC). She's running against him again, and the man has got to be feeling the pressure.

Mostly, he did this to give himself a little cred that he's not the Obama/Pelousi lacky all her ads claim he is, I reckon.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2013, 11:14:01 AM »
I doubt it will get that far for a government shut down, but, Obama is vindictive as hell, so who knows.  If it would help him politically, he would want it to be as painful as possible for the people, just to punish Republicans.  He doesn't give a crap about the country....what he did with the sequestration has proven that. 


You're right about that. Obama doesn't give a sh__ about our country. Amazing that he was reelected. Doesn't say much about the average US voter's intelligence.

The Republicans need to stop caving to the dems and get way smarter. The bill passed by the house clearly funds everything but Obamacare. They need to be getting on the offense ASAP to get that message out.

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Re: Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2013, 11:42:52 AM »
I believe Rush Limbaugh played a montage the other day of Dems claiming that Obamacare is "the law of the land".  Along with reciting former laws that were in place...slavery, etc.

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2013, 04:29:31 PM »
I believe Rush Limbaugh played a montage the other day of Dems claiming that Obamacare is "the law of the land".  Along with reciting former laws that were in place...slavery, etc.

Hey DUmmies, laws can always be repealed.

Only laws they don't like can be repealed. Just like only SC decisions they don't like can be overturned.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2013, 08:39:08 PM »
HEHE you have more faith then I do for the weasel my friend...Ill bet he was on the bathroom floor with the shakes minutes after the vote.

Either that or Obama will give him a call and he will pee in his pants and tears will be flowing from his eyes. What a sorry ass excuse for a man.

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Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2013, 10:36:14 PM »
Well I for one am glad for the two dems votes, but I suffer no illusions it was more out of saving their skins than they think its the right thing to do for the country.  


Oh I have no delusions or fantasies about some house dem coming to the light.
They are saving their skins. And it will be a domino effect. As loyal as a Democrat is to the ball and chain that is Obama, they remember 2010. VIVIDLY. They know they won't have the same voter turnout in the mid-terms, and they lost the house due to Obamacare. Now, like a horrible case of déjà vu, Obamacare has come back again just in time for the midterm election season...only this time it is the law of the land and their constituents will effectively shove a boot in someone's liberal ass.

However....
It is out of a politician's healthy fear of their bosses that make good things for this country.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2013, 09:29:31 AM »
Either that or Obama will give him a call and he will pee in his pants and tears will be flowing from his eyes. What a sorry ass excuse for a man.

Well there's that..... :cheersmate:
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2013, 09:42:12 AM »
Most of the people that I know that don't vote are ultra conservative. If the republicans would take a firm stand just once on a matter of great importance, things might change for the better.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2013, 06:43:43 AM »
Most of the people that I know that don't vote are ultra conservative. If the republicans would take a firm stand just once on a matter of great importance, things might change for the better.

If the Repubs put up another ass kissing RINO like Christie for President in 016, the same thing will happen.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2013, 08:57:47 AM »
If the Repubs put up another ass kissing RINO like Christie for President in 016, the same thing will happen.

HELL, in that case, I may not vote myself.....been voting for almost 50 years in every election both local and national.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2013, 10:10:18 PM »
If the Repubs put up another ass kissing RINO like Christie for President in 016, the same thing will happen.

I'm not voting for that blow-hard demonrat...er rhino....er whatever he is. He does not represent me he is more a prezzy pet than anything else.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2013, 02:53:06 AM »
It won't pass the Senate.  Reid will probably put Obamacare funding back in it, the Dems will pass it and then they'll throw it back to the House.

Then what?



First they will try the filibuster to prevent Reid from putting the funding back in.

Then if that doesn't work the House starts sending individual CR bills to the senate for things that need to be funded. For example...a stand alone CR to fund the military.

They'll force the Senate to vote up or down on each individual entity that needs $$$ for the next fiscal year.
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