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Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2013, 07:02:38 AM »
I was furious when Matheson defeated Mia Love.  2014 should be interesting in many ways.

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Re: Re: 2 Dems Join With GOP in 230-189 Vote to Defund Obamacare
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2013, 08:33:31 AM »
I believe Rush Limbaugh played a montage the other day of Dems claiming that Obamacare is "the law of the land".  Along with reciting former laws that were in place...slavery, etc.

Hey DUmmies, laws can always be repealed.

IIRC, the border fence construction was "law of the land" as well--and the Dems voted to defund it.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2013, 09:18:12 AM »
Wasn't "Seperate but equal" the "law of the land" at one time...upheld by the Supreme Court as well?


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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2013, 09:27:14 AM »
Wasn't "Seperate but equal" the "law of the land" at one time...upheld by the Supreme Court as well?


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So was Dredd Scott v. Sanford, ruled under another Democrat president.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2013, 02:36:08 PM »
Do a Harry Reid style dunk shot......right into file 13.....that's the same place Reid files things he doesn't like.

I can do without my SS check a hell of a lot longer than Obama voters can do without their foodstamps, section 8, disability checks, welfare, Obamaphones, Medicaid, Medicare, student loans................................................ 

Your SS benefits will keep coming in even if there is a shut down.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2013, 02:58:40 PM »
Your SS benefits will keep coming in even if there is a shut down.

I can live without it......but DUmmies can't so shut her down.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2013, 05:09:29 PM »
Your SS benefits will keep coming in even if there is a shut down.

Military pay will be held until a CR is passed, according to Defense Finance and Accounting Service: DFAS Facebook post

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2013, 04:45:00 PM »
Military pay will be held until a CR is passed, according to Defense Finance and Accounting Service: DFAS Facebook post

It's facebook.  I take that into account.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2013, 05:37:29 PM »
It's facebook.  I take that into account.

The Facebook for defense finance is run and monitored by Dfas. It is used to disseminate information useful to its 'customers', a big piece of which are military and veterans whose pay is processed by DFAS. Dfas starting using social media sites as a nod to it being a tool used regularly by the folks they serve as an appropriate avenue to get information to end users quicker. 

Now to the issue at hand. The information referencing this was directly from OPMs information. I'll cut and p it here for good measure:

OPM FAQ site, "READ OUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
In case of a potential government shutdown, the Department of Defense will have no legal authority to pay any personnel - military or civilian - for the days during which the government is shut down.  The shutdown will not affect payments to retirees and annuitants as those funds come from a retirement trust fund.  Below is the effect the government shutdown will have on active duty military, civilian personnel, retirees and annuitants, and DoD contractors.

Military: Active, Reserve, and National Guard members will be paid on time for pay entitlements earned September 30 or earlier.  Military members cannot be paid for duty performed after the expiration of the current CRA on September 30.  Once another CRA or an appropriations act is signed into law, normal disbursement of military pay will resume.

Civilians: All civilian employees will be paid on their normal pay date for all entitlements earned through September 30.  After September 30, the following rules apply:

Excepted employees who perform duty during the shutdown will be entitled to retroactive payments once another CRA or an appropriations act is signed into law.
For furloughed employees, Congress will have to provide authority for retroactive payments to be made.
Employees whose organizations have available resources such as Defense Working Capital Fund, will be paid as normal until such time as cash reserves are exhausted.
Non Appropriate Fund (NAF) civilian employees:  Your pay will be processed and paid as normal.
Retirees: Military retirees and annuitants are not paid from Continuing Resolution Act (CRA) appropriations, so those payments will continue as scheduled.

DoD Contractors: As a revolving fund organization, so long as the Department's Working Capital Fund has adequate funds for normal operations, DFAS will continue to make contract and vendor payments."

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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2013, 05:43:17 PM »
For furloughed employees, Congress will have to provide authority for retroactive payments to be made.
No retroactive pay for time off.....it should hurt.
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2013, 05:49:09 PM »
No retroactive pay for time off.....it should hurt.

Yeah that's great but congress will be the ones taking that up the buns nor will the O clan go without their Christmas vacation. Not likely. It will be the gs 5-11taking it in the shorts; many of those vets now working as civilians especially in the halls of DOD jobs.  At least with this one compared to the day a week thing, at least they can actually apply for unemployment while the circus runs it's course in DC. As you said though many are prepared and can wait out either way knowing the financial repercussions a year and two or three from now are far greater then a paycheck.

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2013, 05:49:28 PM »
Yeah that's great but congress will not be the ones taking that up the buns nor will the O clan go without their Christmas vacation. Not likely. It will be the gs 5-11taking it in the shorts; many of those vets now working as civilians especially in the halls of DOD jobs.  At least with this one compared to the day a week thing, at least they can actually apply for unemployment while the circus runs it's course in DC. As you said though many are prepared and can wait out either way knowing the financial repercussions a year and two or three from now are far greater then a paycheck.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2013, 10:17:03 PM »
Do a Harry Reid style dunk shot......right into file 13.....that's the same place Reid files things he doesn't like.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2013, 11:44:05 AM »
Congressional stalemate rings in government slimdown
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/01/partial-shutdown-begins-can-congress-white-house-compromise/

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What the Obama administration is portraying as a "shutdown" of the federal government -- complete with signs posted at the entrances to government buildings, parks and monuments -- is turning out to be more of a "slimdown," as all but non-essential workers reported to their jobs Tuesday.

The biggest impact is expected to be felt for the 800,000 or so federal workers facing furlough. But hundreds of thousands of other workers are reporting for work, and a patchwork of services remains open to the public as lawmakers and the White House continue to battle over a spending package.

Mail will still be delivered, Social Security checks will go out and, thanks to a last-minute bill, the military will continue to get paid.

Government shutdown is a misnomer. It is government slimdown, which the government should do.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2013, 02:10:25 PM »
Congressional stalemate rings in government slimdown
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/01/partial-shutdown-begins-can-congress-white-house-compromise/

Government shutdown is a misnomer. It is government slimdown, which the government should do.

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as all but non-essential workers reported to their jobs Tuesday.

That's the problem. If they are non-essential, why do they have jobs?  Granted, I realize that some of those furloughed are needed, but I'm sure that half or more could be let go with no loss to operations.

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2013, 03:19:37 PM »
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2013, 03:21:22 PM »
FLOTUS Announces Twitter Updates ‘Limited’ Due to Shutdown

No, not that.  Anything but that. :whatever:

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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2013, 03:24:04 PM »
Right now Harry Reid is stuck on an elevator at the Capitol because the elevator operators were furloughed and he doesn't know how to operate the darn thing.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2013, 03:43:16 PM »
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What will I do without marching munching orders from Moochelle?

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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2013, 03:50:23 PM »
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2013, 04:32:12 PM »
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2013, 04:49:14 PM »
PANIC!! :panic:

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Shutdown Extends to White House Instragram, But Not Flickr

The Obama administration’s partial shutdown has apparently extended to online activities, including the White House Instagram account.

As of October 1st, the account displays a message conveying updates to the account will be “limited” due to the federal shutdown:
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What a bunch of petty, unimportant little shits.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2013, 07:30:01 PM »
As of October 1st, the account displays a message conveying updates to the account will be “limited” due to the federal shutdown:

When the government is shut down.....the Liar-N-Chief doesn't need to lie.
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Re: House votes to defund Obamacare
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2013, 08:20:20 PM »


HI5 my friend I was laughing on that one.....
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