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Offline zeitgeist

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DUmmies of DU Unite
« on: August 31, 2013, 03:08:42 PM »
Here is a great example of why they are and always will b DUmmies.

This thread contains the usual cast of notable characters fantasizing over conversion to Socialism.  The lead dog on this sleigh ride to nowhere is Taverner.  

 A whole pant load of comments await your perusal at the link:

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023567983

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Taverner (54,368 posts)

Should all jobs be union jobs?
  
Yes. Yes they should.

If you think the Koch Brothers don't have their "unions" you'd be wrong.

They organize and collectively decide workers' fate.

All workers should collectively bargain.

There is no reason to do otherwise.


Here is a typical Dummy response chosen, of course, totally at random. :whistling:

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nadinbrzezinski (125,392 posts)

144. Depending n the industry
 
The answer is yes...some unions have independents join and get at least some benefits.  

Okie dokie then Nads has spoken (or broken wind in your general direction, hard to tell which).
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 03:54:31 PM »
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Should all jobs be union jobs?
 
Yes. Yes they should.

Wouldn't matter Dummie. You couldn't pass the piss test for any of them.   :loser:
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 04:07:04 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on August 31, 2013, 03:08:42 PM
 The lead dog on this sleigh ride to nowhere is Taverner.  


Imagine that.   :whatever:

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nadinbrzezinski (125,392 posts)

144. Depending n the industry
 
The answer is yes...some unions have independents join and get at least some benefits.

Do tell, Blob.  Care to put up some examples?

Quote from: I_B_Perky on August 31, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
Wouldn't matter Dummie. You couldn't pass the piss test for any of them.   :loser:

In his perfect Uniontopia, piss tests would be illegal.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2013, 04:12:28 PM by 98ZJUSMC »
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 04:12:47 PM »
OK which one of y'all capitalist is selling bottled piss to the DUmmies?
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 04:45:50 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 31, 2013, 04:12:47 PM
OK which one of y'all capitalist is selling bottled piss to the DUmmies?

Let me use the Socratic Method here to help you out.  I will post a few more comments.  Ask yourself, could any of these people find their a$$ in a wind storm without help?  Could any of these posters have a hope of producing a specimen cup of clean urine? 

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Travis_0004 (1,213 posts)

6. I'm my only employee. Can I unionize myself?
 

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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 04:21 AM

King_Klonopin (287 posts)

14. You'll go blind !
 
 
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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 01:55 AM

Star Member arely staircase (7,356 posts)

8. yes

the only way an individual worker has parity with a corporation or wealthy employer is within an organized union.
 
 

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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 01:56 AM

Star Member ZombieHorde (25,172 posts)

9. What about co-ops?

If 10 people start a business, and they are all equal owners and the only workers, do they still need a union?
 

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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 03:05 AM

Star Member Taverner (54,373 posts)

10. That's the most ideal situation

Flat system - workers own the means of production
 

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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 06:08 AM

Star Member ZombieHorde (25,172 posts)

32. I think so too.
 
I like socialism more than capitalism.
 


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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 03:06 AM

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11. Yes.
 
They are greedy capitalists who will exploit themselves if left to their own devices.

They require an entity to look out for their best interests, which only an altruistic union is able to provide.
 

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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 04:01 AM

Star Member Recursion (29,077 posts)

13. Then unions need to start letting everyone join no matter their occupation
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Including the currently unemployed.

Unions are great unless you're not in one and want a job.


Now the real question is how much is clean urine going for on the open market?   Here you go: > http://www.urinetheclear.com/
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 05:05:47 PM »
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Including the currently unemployed.
So if they go on strike, they get a job?
Would DUmmies be scabs, cross the line and quit their job?   If any.
Would they picket for less pay?

I'm soooo confused.  :rotf:
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 05:18:02 PM »
Quote from: Skul on August 31, 2013, 05:05:47 PM
So if they go on strike, they get a job?
Would DUmmies be scabs, cross the line and quit their job?   If any.
Would they picket for less pay?

I'm soooo confused.  :rotf:
 

What about volunteer work?

What about work that's done in a homeless shelter, soup line or Dog pound?

Would you be a scab if above work is part of your community service in order to get out of jail and put on probation?
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Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 05:19:52 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 31, 2013, 04:12:47 PM
OK which one of y'all capitalist is selling bottled piss to the DUmmies?


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

H5 Johnnyreb!!!!
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 05:35:25 PM »
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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 01:55 AM

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8. yes

the only way an individual worker has parity with a corporation or wealthy employer is within an organized union.

As usual, the risk-adverse helmet-children refuse to understand the incentives for taking risks and the potential disaster inherent to the undertaking.  Everything should be chocolate unicorns and endlessly sprouting money trees for the lowliest worker (D)Ubee who misses four days work per month, is, at best, a marginal performer and has the ambition of a daily pot smoker.

Earn, is not in our creed.

Riddle me this needle, boi:  How is it that, after over fifty years of unionization, the US automakers still lag behind those foreign owned and produced in "right to work" states.

Hmmmm?  C'mon, tell us.
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2013, 10:11:14 AM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on August 31, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
Now the real question is how much is clean urine going for on the open market?   Here you go: > http://www.urinetheclear.com/
 :lol:

What would be funny is if the DUmmies bought and paid for urine test came back indicating most every STD known to man.
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 10:14:41 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on September 01, 2013, 10:11:14 AM
What would be funny is if the DUmmies bought and paid for urine test came back indicating most every STD known to man.

Or a DUmmy guy testing positive for pregnancy? :-*
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 10:21:27 AM »
I want to know how this would work.  After all the companies moved to China, what jobs would be left? 
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Re: DUmmies of DU Unite
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 01:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Dori on September 01, 2013, 10:21:27 AM
I want to know how this would work.  After all the companies moved to China, what jobs would be left? 
After coughing up $30 bucks for a Happy Meal, it might just be cheaper to buy a plane ticket and pick one up in Peking. (I'm old fashioned)
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