the cousin describes the news media for us

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023529710

Oh my.

As if the cousin knows what she's talking about.....

nadinbrzezinski (125,186 posts)   Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:05 AM

On the Media...

well, after this scandal there are some observations about the media, especially from the bigger the fish pond.
 
Here in San Diego, though it is the 8th largest market in the country, it is still a small pond, with people working all the way from hyper local papers, all the way to local affiliates, and freelancers for CNN and other nationals. We like to help each other and do not get in other's people's shots. In fact it is not uncommon for crews to share critical information at emergency scenes. And if you get there late, yup, we even get that thing called traffic, we brief each other on what is known.
 
In some ways it is still a small media market. In others it is truly a major market, but we have not jumped into that ugliness you see in major markets.
 
Due to the small scandal we had crews coming from all over, far and near. Yup, Atlanta sent a crew, who thought we were a small town, that was hard core republican. No, we are not... the 8th largest market actually is a larger market than yes, Atlanta. We had a conversation with the guy in between the action. There is a lot of hurry up and wait in this business.
 
Then we had the Los Angeles crew that wanted us little people to move from our position since we were blocking their shot. Mind you, we were all setting for a presser. She ended up, grudgingly, moving up because crews were setting up. And we told her, you'd better move up, or you will not get a place.
 
Of course we also had three crews from Mexico, who also had to jostle for position, one from Mexico City. A BBC America crew that probably fed to BBC England as well. And then you had something that had us going... ok kids, can't you just have one crew feed to the rest? A few of the big alphabets had a local crew, the local affiliate. Then they had the Los Angeles Crew, in one case one from San Bernardino, and if that was not enough a cable crew and a regular TV crew. That is when you are going, no wonder we had half of city hall chambers, not a small chamber, taken over by camera gear.
 
And yes some of the local affiliates, because of the move to HD, are sending two crews. One of the cameras is HD, the other is still regular.
 
And the still photographers, Getty, AP, Reuters, the UT, us, I am sure I forgot somebody.
 
We were given a great compliment from one of the principals, for being "thorough and fair." You know you are doing your job well when in the course of the same rally you are both told you are a Liberal Media drone and a Republican parrot. Hey, it's what it is.
 
Why am I mentioning this? realize that when you have a major breaking story, of national importance, a lot of how important it is you can tell by how much crap shows up.
 
Tom and I were joking that parking enforcement was having a cow. Media can park in many places that you would have to pay for. We got the placard since we cover down town. I can see the poor parking officer. "I got one! Drats, another media vehicle!"
 
The parking lot in front of Civic Center, where City Hall is located, was taken over by satellite trucks, so was Third, and every other street around City Hall. It was... quite properly... a media circus.
 
As to Filner, when he was giving his final statement, if he stepped back, he would have tripped on the still photographers, he was completely surrounded. I took my shots and stepped out for the next photographer to step in.
 
And yes, I can tell San Diego City Council Chambers have good AC... all that equipment, which runs hot, and people, and we still had some cooling. Oh and the Fire Marshal was damn busy keeping exit routes more or less clear.
 
Oh and that does not include all the supporters and detractors who also showed up.
 
I was laughing, my usual perch, well the Fire Marshall was keeping it clear, in case of fire, or making the best attempt humanely possible. So a whole first row of seats on the left side was clear, that was an emergency exist. But since we cover city hall regularly, I was able to just leave my recorder where the microphone for witnesses is, and let it go.
 
This is just the inside story of how some of this is done.

nadinbrzezinski (125,186 posts)   Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:19 AM

1. Kick for morning crew

Alas for the cousin, the bloom seems off the rose; she's apparently had her day.

The primitives don't seem interested in what she has to say any more.

[Bad Dog]

She wants so bad to be part of the nooz business but, she comes across as a pitiful fan-girl.  No sane news director is going to put that gnome in front of a camera.

[GOBUCKS]

Any kid from a school paper at a San Diego high school could get just as much access - and a lot more comprehension - at these "pressers".

Nutcase nadin just loves the illusion of being an insider.

[Ralph Wiggum]

San Diego is the 28th largest media market.  Not surprised she would screw that up. http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets

[Tess Anderson]

sid, pinto and some of the other regular "bullies" are in that thread, but I think the DUmp is tired of nadin as well. This:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023529342

thread where she talks about going to see that lib movie and conflates the cost with the minimum wage  had few replies.

[ChuckJ]

We were given a great compliment from one of the principals, for being "thorough and fair." You know you are doing your job well when in the course of the same rally you are both told you are a Liberal Media drone and a Republican parrot. Hey, it's what it is.

Of all the things I can imagine anyone calling nads "Republican parrot" is not one of them.

[franksolich]

nadinbrzezinski (125,205 posts)    Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:45 PM

14. I am sure we could.

Actually one of my favorite stories involves the Chariot Fire. We carry topo maps to fires, and one reason we got to the command post is we shared with Cal Fire and Coronado Bat. Chiefs. They needed to get up there to get their maps, but they had no maps. It's kind of a catch 22 situation. And for some reason going through an AF facility, the road is not well marked on most maps.
 
So after we looked for it in a topo and found it, (not all of it was on the map either, but the beginning was) we followed them, and got the good shots above the smoke. Ah yes, the CNN drop by the VLAT were impressive, and not through the smoke. So the paper got very good shots nobody else did.
 
This, I quite frankly hope we do not get another media national level story for a while. The scram to get in there for the highlights of the run and games was not fun. I figured though that this peek behind the scenes would be of interest to some here. And what was really funny was to see the self importance grows with the size of the outfit people work for. That was actually more than just an eye opener.
 
I am glad I work in a market that while large, still acts like a smaller market. I mean, can you imagine a local crew sharing cables with another local crew if their cables are not good in your market?

"topo maps" -- 

[franksolich]

treestar (44,001 posts)    Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:32 PM

11. With something of such national importance

In such a major news market - I would not be surprised to find there were DHS agents there.

nadinbrzezinski (125,205 posts)    Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:35 PM

12. And I see my "fans" are here

thanks guys and gals for the kicks. I really appreciate it. You guys have your uses. Now bring over more of your friends, and keep that conversation going, I am sure there are a few personal attacks included, there always are.

pintobean (9,661 posts)    Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:59 PM

15. With posts like this you should never make accusations about bullying and stalking. I've seen this many times over the years. You can't complain about getting what you ask for.
 
Are these the kind of personal attacks you speak of?

ETA - here's the most recent complaint:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12592639

sad-cafe (908 posts)    Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:11 PM

16. spot on

and very real truth!

SidDithers (28,710 posts)   Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:49 PM

22. +1...

[Carl]

The bottom line is that the real media did everything to ignore the story that they could because it is a democrat.

[Skul]

gNads reportage is the same as a "Lite Beer" commercial in the middle of an important game.
Just comedy relief, nothing more.

[Bad Dog]

gNads reportage is the same as a "Lite Beer" commercial in the middle of an important game.
Just comedy relief, nothing more.

One sad difference, Nads isn't trying to be funny.

[GOP Congress]

Slightly off topic...

Nads must be confusing the city size with market size. San Diego is peculiar in that it is isolated enough from LA to still be in the top ten population wise in the US, but all their cable outlets get all the LA local stations, so in a way it's part of the LA metro area. Nads should know this.

Of course, much of the population of LA and San Diego is illegal as hell.

[franksolich]

One sad difference, Nads isn't trying to be funny.

You know, sir, I have my suspicions about something re: the cousin and her arcane "journo" "slang."

She's a little puppy dog that wants to be with the big dogs in journalism, and probably has as some sort of "mentor" a professional journalist, who's teaching her the tricks of the trade.

Including slang terms--"presser," for example (out of many).  Or "the good rig."

She's lapping this up like an eager young pup, not aware that her "mentor" is actually mocking her hopes and her pretensions, by coaching her in words real journalists never use.

[vesta111]

You know, sir, I have my suspicions about something re: the cousin and her arcane "journo" "slang."

She's a little puppy dog that wants to be with the big dogs in journalism, and probably has as some sort of "mentor" a professional journalist, who's teaching her the tricks of the trade.

Including slang terms--"presser," for example (out of many).  Or "the good rig."

She's lapping this up like an eager young pup, not aware that her "mentor" is actually mocking her hopes and her pretensions, by coaching her in words real journalists never use.

One thing I notice is the police and fire departments do not usually bar the paid press from a scene.
The professionals know what they are doing and there is little to fear from them.

Nads now like so many unprofessional reporters or photographers can be a worry as they can and do get in the way of the police and fireman trying to do their job.      A problem for the authorities trying to do their job and amateurs needing to be removed from a dangerous site.

A kin to a big hospital operation in surgery and in the middle of the procedure in comes a volunteer that brings books to the patients  come barging in to take photos of the operation, get under foot and knock over a tray of sterile instruments.

[franksolich]

One thing I notice is the police and fire departments do not usually bar the paid press from a scene.  The professionals know what they are doing and there is little to fear from them.

Nads now like so many unprofessional reporters or photographers can be a worry as they can and do get in the way of the police and fireman trying to do their job.  A problem for the authorities trying to do their job and amateurs needing to be removed from a dangerous site.

Akin to a big hospital operation in surgery and in the middle of the procedure in comes a volunteer that brings books to the patients, barging in to take photos of the operation, get underfoot and knock over a tray of sterile instruments.

Good point, vesta, dear, and you know I mean it.

[USA4ME]

San Diego is the 28th largest media market.  Not surprised she would screw that up. http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets

Yeah, but it's bigger than Atlanta.  

Apparently this embarrassment to the Mexican people doesn't know the difference between the population of a city and the population of the metro area of that city.

San Diego Metropolitan Statistical Area - 3,177,063

Atlanta Metropolitan Statistical Area - 5,457,831

.

[67 Rover]

Yeah. but it's bigger than Atlanta. 

Apparently this embarrassment to the Mexican people doesn't know the difference between the population of a city and the population of the metro area of that city.

San Diego Metropolitan Statistical Area - 3,177,063

Atlanta Metropolitan Statistical Area - 5,457,831

.

In Nads defense she may have made an English to Metric conversion error when looking at the markets numbers.