primitives discuss chili (Grandma Judy calls us out)

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/115728727

Oh my.

Aerows (15,953 posts)   Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:16 PM

Chili recipes

Who has a great recipe for chili?

d_r (3,010 posts)    Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:37 PM

1. not exactly a recipe, but here's what I do

about 2 lbs ground beef
1 chopped onion
2 chopped cloves garlic
1 14 oz can pureed tomatoes
1-2 (based on taste) cans tomato sauce
2+ (based on taste) TBSP good quality chili powder
a little cumin to taste
a little oregeno to taste
hot sauce to taste
a pepper - bell pepper for mild or jalepenos, raw or pickled up to your taste. Or another type of pepper if you have them.
 
For extra credit:
1 teaspoon of unsweetened cocoa
the leftover in the pot of coffee or the bottle of beer

If I have some dried chilis I open them up and dump the seeds out and crush the shells and throw them in.
 
Brown the ground beef, garlic, peppers, and onion. Throw some chili powder on there as it browns.
 
Drain it, and add the rest of the stuff. Bring to a good boil and turn down and let it simmer for 25 minutes or so. Add in a can of rinsed beans if you like beans in it. I like chopped tofu to play the role of the beans also.
 
This is just simple American chili. Not cincinatti, not texas, not new mexico, etc.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:48 PM

3. Now that looks delicious

minus the bell pepper. I'm allergic to them, and can't stand them.

I'll throw some serranos and jalepenos in there. great recipe, thank you.

Ugly, she with the face like Hindenberg's, butts in:

Warpy (70,571 posts)    Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:44 PM

2. Every cook in the south and the west has the best recipe for chili

It's like recipes for tomato sauce or potato salad, there are as many recipes as there are cooks.
 
Heat in a pot of chili varies from a 1/4 teaspoon of chili powder in recipes from the upper midwest and New England to a quarter cup (minimum) of ground hot chile here in the southwest.
 
Some cooks are all meat chauvinists and some like pinto beans in it. There are vegetarian chilis that are good, using pintos for protein and a little bulgur wheat for bite.
 
Optional ingredients can range from instant coffee to peanut butter to unsweetened chocolate.
 
My advice is to look at recipes online and try the one that looks best to you.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:52 PM

4. "It's like recipes for potato salad"

It's true! LOL!

I wanted to get everyone's take on chili, though, in case I missed an ingredient.

Grandma Judy, the addled pie-and-jam primitive, whose guardians (children and grandchildren) don't like her posting on the internet because it makes her look bad, chooses to do it anyway, while they're out shopping for groceries:

grasswire (37,333 posts)    Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:39 PM

5. my hint is a handful of masa thrown in toward the end

this thickens the broth and gives a really good flavor.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:01 AM

6. Hominy sized or flour like?

grasswire (37,333 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:31 AM

10. masa flour

but I've used cornmeal also. Not quite the same flavor, but the same results.

fizzgig (18,093 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:26 AM

7. i put corn in mine

and roasted bell peppers (which i know you don't eat). both give sweetness and the corn gives crunch.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:28 AM

8. The corn sounds good

and the bell peppers aren't happening

fizzgig (18,093 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:31 AM

9. and a pinch of brown sugar

nice balance to all the acidity from the tomatoes.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:13 PM

24. That sounds perfect

I think you cook like I like to cook - balancing out all of the lovely flavors.

grasswire (37,333 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:43 AM

11. here's my ingredient list

(Our stalkers [sic] at the conservative site go nuts when we mention beans in chili, but here goes)
 
ground beef, browned and seasoned with some worcestershire sauce and chili powder and cumin.
 
canned, rinsed and drained black beans, white beans, and another variety , or re-- sometimes I use butter beans, sometimes black-eyed peas, or red beans.
 
chopped yellow onion

diced red bell pepper (sorry)

large can of crushed tomatoes

TB or more of beef Better Than Bouillon

water to cover the meat and beans

simmer for at least an hour

taste for seasonings -- may need more chili powder or cumin or some salt

scatter in a handful of masa or cornmeal ten minutes before taking off the heat

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:16 PM

25. Conservatives stalk [sic] cooking sites?

Well they must not have much to do.

Anyway, that sounds absolutely delicious. You had me at chopped yellow onion. If it contains onions, it can't be all bad (unless it also contains bell peppers, then it is bad)

It sounds absolutely delicious minus the bell pepper.

Callalily (10,458 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:45 AM

12. Actually, I have two . . .

First one is vegan - the second one not!

Bean Chili

Serves 6 to 8

We like this chili made with pinto, black, red kidney, small red, or navy beans. You can use one pound of a single variety or a combination of beans. For a spicier chili use both jalapenos. Serve the chili with diced avocado, chopped red onion, lime wedges, sour cream, and shredded Monterey Jack or cheddar cheese.
 
Salt
1 pound dried beans, rinsed and picked over
3 dried shiitake mushroom, chopped coarse
4 teaspoons dried oregano
1 tablespoon ground cumin

1/2 cup walnuts, toasted
1 (28 ounce) can diced tomatoes, drained and juices reserved
3 tablespoons tomato paste
1 to 2 jalapeño chiles, stemmed and coarsely chopped
6 garlic cloves, minced
3 tablespoons soy sauce
¼ cup vegetable oil
2 large onions, chopped fine (3 cups)
¼ cup chili powder
7 cups water
2/3 cup medium grain bulgur
¼ cup chopped fresh cilantro

1. Bring 4 quarts water, 3 tablespoons salt, and beans to boil in large Dutch oven over high heat. Remove pot from heat, cover, and let stand 1 hour. Drain and rinse well.
 
2. Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 300 degrees. Grind shiitakes, oregano, and cumin in spice grinder until finely ground. Process walnuts in food processor until finely ground, about 30 seconds. Transfer to bowl. Process drained tomatoes, tomato paste, jalapenos, garlic and soy sauce in food processor until tomatoes are finely chopped, about 45 seconds, scraping down bowl as needed.
 
3. Heat oil in Dutch-oven over medium-high heat until shimmering. Add onion and 1 ¼ teaspoons salt; cook, stirring occasionally until onions begin to brown, 8 to 10 minutes. Lower heat to medium, add chili powder and ground shiitake mixture; cook, stirring constantly, until fragrant, about 1 minute. Add rinsed beans and water and bring to boil. Cover pot, transfer to oven and cook 45 minutes.
 
4. Remove from pot from oven. Stir in bulgur, ground walnuts, tomato mixture and reserved tomato juice. Return to oven and cook until beans are fully tender, about 2 hours. Let chili stand, uncovered, 15 minutes. Stir in cilantro and serve. (The chili can be made up to 3 days in advance.)
 
__________________________________

All American Chili

Yield: 8 servings (serving size: 1 1/4 cups chili and 1 tablespoon cheese)

6 ounces hot turkey Italian sausage
2 cups chopped onion
1 cup chopped green bell pepper
8 garlic cloves, minced
1 pound ground sirloin
1 jalapeño pepper, chopped
2 tablespoons chili powder
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1 tablespoon ground cumin
3 tablespoons tomato paste
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/4 teaspoon salt
2 bay leaves
1 1/4 cups Merlot or other fruity red wine
2 (28-ounce) cans no-salt-added whole tomatoes, undrained and coarsely chopped
2 (15-ounce) cans no-salt-added kidney beans, drained
1/2 cup (2 ounces) shredded reduced-fat sharp cheddar cheese

Preparation

Heat a large Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Remove casings from sausage. Add sausage, onion, and the next 4 ingredients (onion through jalapeño) to pan; cook 8 minutes or until sausage and beef are browned, stirring to crumble.
 
Add chili powder and the next 7 ingredients (chili powder through bay leaves), and cook for 1 minute, stirring constantly. Stir in wine, tomatoes, and kidney beans; bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 1 hour, stirring occasionally.
 
Uncover and cook for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. Discard the bay leaves. Sprinkle each serving with cheddar cheese.
 
Note: Like most chilis, this version tastes even better the next day.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:10 PM

22. The second one sounds great

I detest walnuts so the first one isn't going to be on my list, but I know most folks love walnuts, so thank you for sharing both, dear

WhollyHeretic (3,936 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:30 AM

13. I make it differently every time. Things I always have are masa harina, lots of tomatoes (crushed and sauce), and at least a 1/4 cup chili powder. I occasionally use red wine which gives the flavor an interesting twist.

Aerows (15,953 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:50 PM

16. I'm making a batch

I'm having trouble with my left eye (been to the dr - everything is blurry as hell out of it and I have to put steroid drops in it- which leave me with a horrid taste in my mouth, to boot) so I'm at home instead of at work. I followed the recipe up top, and it smells DELICIOUS.
 
Thanks for everyone chiming in to provide great chili recipes . I never thought to put corn in it, but that sounds good. I haven't thought of half of the ingredients you wily C&B folks do

Auggie (16,628 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:27 PM

26. Vegan Chili

Brown rice instead of meat. Fresh cut, seeded tomatoes, black beans, sliced peppers, sliced zucchini (optional), chili peppers, onion, garlic, coriander, cumin, salt.
 
It's goooooood. And good for you.

libodem (12,634 posts)   Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:14 PM

28. I was looking for the thread which

Asked for the crock pot recipes. I can't find it. So I'll grace your thread with the white bean chicken chilli recipe.
 
Soak your white beans over night or use two or three cans of white beans.
5 cups chicken stock
3-4 chicken breasts cut into chunks
1 onion
Garlic to taste
1 tbs cumin
1tbs Mexican orageno
1-2,tsp white pepper
Pinch red pepper flakes
Cilantro to taste

Cook all day in the crock pot

This is really good with a dollop of sour cream.

I never would have dreamed that the combination of cumin and oregano could taste so darn good.

[Big Dog]

Walnuts- ****ing walnuts? In chili?

What the **** is wrong with that DUmmy?

[Skul]

(Our stalkers [sic] at the conservative site go nuts when we mention beans in chili, but here goes)

Only because you idiots leave them out. Chili ain't chili, without them.

Auggie (16,628 posts)    Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:27 PM
26. Vegan Chili
Brown rice instead of meat. Fresh cut, seeded tomatoes, black beans, sliced peppers, sliced zucchini (optional), chili peppers, onion, garlic, coriander, cumin, salt.
It's goooooood. And good for you.

In other words, vegetable soup. 

[BlueStateSaint]

Walnuts- ****ing walnuts? In chili?

What the **** is wrong with that DUmmy?

Where do we begin?

[jukin]

Only because you idiots leave them out. Chili ain't chili, without them.

Bingo, have to have beans. That comment demonstrates why they don't mole well. They just go all out with their own prejudices and zero oppo research.

[GOBUCKS]

Chili without kidney beans isn't chili, it's meat soup.

Chili with walnuts might happen if the cook is Ray Charles or a DUmpmonkey.

To maintain DUmp cred you need to specify "local cumin" and "organic oregano".

[DumbAss Tanker]

Chili without kidney beans isn't chili, it's meat soup.

Chili with walnuts might happen if the cook is Ray Charles or a DUmpmonkey.

To maintain DUmp cred you need to specify "local cumin" and "organic oregano".

And wha'd masa ever do to them?  Slavery days done been over long time.

[vesta111]

Walnuts- ****ing walnuts? In chili?

What the **** is wrong with that DUmmy?

Up here in the North woods we have no idea of what Chili tastes to like you guys down under.

We cannot replicate this dish any more then Texans know how to make Lobster our way.

We try with the spices we can buy, we add things natural to us as in beans and what not, but never are we to be able to make your chili your way. ---Then there is the fact we may not like your chili.

Chili is a food that can be made 100 ways, some add corn and others chicken.   Try Asian Chili with rice.
Yum very good.  

Chili is not a food source for any one people, has been around for hundreds of years and cooks have  changed the recipes to what is on hand-- only thing that stays the same is the hot peppers, all else is up to the cook.
 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Frank needs to avoid the cooking and baking forum...because it makes me hungry!!!

In all honesty, other than the walnuts, DUmmies had good recipes.

[BattleHymn]

Frank needs to avoid the cooking and baking forum...because it makes me hungry!!!

In all honesty, other than the walnuts, DUmmies had good recipes.

It sounds good until you discover where they got the ingredients.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuD1oDth6es[/youtube]

[franksolich]

Frank needs to avoid the cooking and baking forum...because it makes me hungry!!!

Oh, but you know from whence that comes.

Back during the Scamdal of May-June-July 2005, there was a short time--a couple of days or something--that my fellow alum Skins forbade discussion of poor stupid Beth's scam on Skins's island.

To get around it, the scammers and their pals went en masse to the cooking and baking forum and discussed things in "code," using recipes for chicken soup as the cypher.

Of course, it wasn't going on for but five minutes or so before proponents of open and honest fund-raising caught on to it.

When the scammers went back to General Discussion, I stayed behind, being utterly fascinated at the characters and rogues who hung around there.  You might, or might not, recall there was a time franksolich actually liked--and praised profusely--the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer and the defrocked warped primitive, she with the face like Hindenberg's, Warpy.

But then on December 17, 2009, I was illuminated by Tangerine LaBamba as to their true natures and beings, and the rose went off the bloom.

[Mr Mannn]

the defrocked warped primitive, she with the face like Hindenberg's, Warpy.

Was that face before of after the blimp caught fire?

[marv]

Brown and drain 2lbs ground beef of choice. Dump into a crock pot set at low. Add 2 #303 cans of tomato sauce, and 2 #303 cans of kidney beans (optional). Stir in 2 packages of Williams Chili Seasoning (Williams is the BEST - trust me; I've used it for over 30 years). Nothing could be simpler or quicker.

Diced onions and tomatoes are only needed to impress guests. The chili I make is for my consumption alone.

With the advent of mechanical refrigeration, hot, Hot, HOT spices were no longer needed to mask the "flavor" of unrefrigerated meats. Refrigeration allows us to enjoy the flavor of properly spiced meats without burning up our tonsils! I detest those chili contests where the object is to find the recipe that ignites spontaneously in your mouth. That's not food; it's carnival sadomasochism.

[obumazombie]

Why not have a thread here that gives all the DU code for the scams, and all the translation decoding ?

[Aristotelian]

Oh, but you know from whence that comes.

Back during the Scamdal of May-June-July 2005, there was a short time--a couple of days or something--that my fellow alum Skins forbade discussion of poor stupid Beth's scam on Skins's island.

To get around it, the scammers and their pals went en masse to the cooking and baking forum and discussed things in "code," using recipes for chicken soup as the cypher.

Of course, it wasn't going on for but five minutes or so before proponents of open and honest fund-raising caught on to it.

When the scammers went back to General Discussion, I stayed behind, being utterly fascinated at the characters and rogues who hung around there.  You might, or might not, recall there was a time franksolich actually liked--and praised profusely--the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer and the defrocked warped primitive, she with the face like Hindenberg's, Warpy.

But then on December 17, 2009, I was illuminated by Tangerine LaBamba as to their true natures and beings, and the rose went off the bloom.

Ahhhhhhh - so you killed the noble warrior for open elections through the C.&B. group. Now the secret's out.

[freedumb2003b]

Up here in the North woods we have no idea of what Chili tastes to like you guys down under.

We cannot replicate this dish any more then Texans know how to make Lobster our way.

We try with the spices we can buy, we add things natural to us as in beans and what not, but never are we to be able to make your chili your way. ---Then there is the fact we may not like your chili.

Chili is a food that can be made 100 ways, some add corn and others chicken.   Try Asian Chili with rice.
Yum very good.  

Chili is not a food source for any one people, has been around for hundreds of years and cooks have  changed the recipes to what is on hand-- only thing that stays the same is the hot peppers, all else is up to the cook.
 

Tiny thread drift.  I am on my weekly commute back to Toronto (from Dallas) and McDonalds has something called "McLobster" -- a lobster roll.  I keep promising myself I'll try it but I think tonight I really will.

[dandi]

I like the Carroll Shelby's chili mix kit which already has chili powder, red pepper, salt and masa flour. Then I add a chopped large yellow onion browned with about 3 lbs. of ground chuck (drain off most of the grease), a can of tomato sauce, a can of diced tomatoes, a can of kidney beans, some garlic salt and a bit of Accent. It's fairly mild to my taste but everyone loves it and you can always add a little chopped pickled jalapeno if you want to turn up the heat.

Throw a handful of shredded cheese on top as soon as you ladle it out of the pot, let it melt and then dip it up with Tostitos Scoops.  

[Carl]

Warpy (70,571 posts)    Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:44 PM

2. Every cook in the south and the west has the best recipe for chili

It's like recipes for tomato sauce or potato salad, there are as many recipes as there are cooks.
 
Heat in a pot of chili varies from a 1/4 teaspoon of chili powder in recipes from the upper midwest and New England to a quarter cup (minimum) of ground hot chile here in the southwest.
 
Some cooks are all meat chauvinists and some like pinto beans in it. There are vegetarian chilis that are good, using pintos for protein and a little bulgur wheat for bite.
 
Optional ingredients can range from instant coffee to peanut butter to unsweetened chocolate.
 
My advice is to look at recipes online and try the one that looks best to you.

First off Judy...Chili without beans is called sloppy joe...K?

Second pertains to the quote.

What the mother fvck???

[marv]

...Chili without beans is called sloppy joe...K?

You eat sloppy joes on a bun while it drips through your fingers onto your pants. Chili is eaten with a spoon from a bowl, and maybe with some saltines!

[sybilll]

You eat sloppy joes on a bun while it drips through your fingers onto your pants. Chili is eaten with a spoon from a bowl, and maybe with some saltines!

Or some Fritos and cheese, aka FritoPie

[NHSparky]

No, grasswire, we're "calling you out" not because you use beans, but because you use such ****ed up beans.

Butter beans?  Black-eyed peas?  ****in seriously?  And Worcestershire sauce?  Yeah, that's a stable of most Mexican kitchens, ya tard!

Stick to making shitty pies.

As far as spice mix goes, agree with the Carroll Shelby's, and like to do a steak (sirloin) and HB mix if using beans (kidney, black, pinto.) Toss in some jalapeno and cayenne, maybe a chopped green chile, onion, chopped tomatoes with just enough tomato sauce (16 oz. can tops) to give it a little volume.

If going the no-bean route, SHREDDED beef and a couple jalapenos.  Hamburger alone?  Ain't happening.

Jesus, reading some of their recipes makes me think that Pam's chicken enchiladas would be something to look forward to after seeing their crap.

[vesta111]

Now you've done it, I just had to make chili knowing full well that Hubby somehow got turned off it when he lived in Waco TX years before I met him.

So I set about looking to see what I had on hand and how to make substitutions for what was missing.

Hamberger at 90% lean, check----

A bag of frozen stir fried onions and peppers mixed colors, check---

4 cloves of garlic, check.---

For the sauce I had a problem, no tomato sauce so I had to use stewed tomato's with basil and oregano, check-----

Couple cans of pinto beans, check---

Now for the most important ingredient I had no chili seasoning but did find a bag of taco meat seasoning.

I got out the crock pot and threw everything in turned the temp to high for 3 hours and sat back waiting for it to either explode or cook what ever comes first.

After 3 hours I carefully removed the top and taste tested it, say not bad I could eat it, if hubby wont then he gets a spam sandwich for supper.

Top back on and cooked another 3 hours on low.     As I am in the kitchen I did not notice the smell of the food but hubby sure did when he came home.     

What is that smell he asked, me ,    Chili cooking I reply as I head to get the bread for his sandwich.   

Time to grab my heart and stay on my feet when he tells me that it smelled good.   Well over 20 years together and he has said that to me perhaps once every 10 years.

He ate 2 bowl fulls with corn chips and took some to work for lunch. 

Now I am of a suspicious mind here, when a man says they like my cooking----they are up to something.  Same as when a man sends flowers for no reason, guilt gifts I call them.

 

[franksolich]

I don't suppose the primitives are aware--they're not very perceptive, after all--that chili, stew, and hamburgers are the number one, number two, and number three most-popular food items discussed here.

[Karin]

Peanut butter, old coffee, Merlot, and walnuts? 

[freedumb2003b]

I like the Carroll Shelby's chili mix kit which already has chili powder, red pepper, salt and masa flour. Then I add a chopped large yellow onion browned with about 3 lbs. of ground chuck (drain off most of the grease), a can of tomato sauce, a can of diced tomatoes, a can of kidney beans, some garlic salt and a bit of Accent. It's fairly mild to my taste but everyone loves it and you can always add a little chopped pickled jalapeno if you want to turn up the heat.

Throw a handful of shredded cheese on top as soon as you ladle it out of the pot, let it melt and then dip it up with Tostitos Scoops.  

Is that still around?  That was a staple of mine during college (30 years ago)! Great stuff! It taught me the joy to be had and caution to be taken with cayenne pepper!