Unf******believable: Talk Left Defends GZ (Zimmerman)

[dandi]

Talk Left is a site for lefty lawyers who have been remarkably rational in their analysis of the Zimmerman case. Of course, "rational" is anathema to DUmmies and the vast majority of the moonbat blogosphere.

ProSense (101,910 posts)

Unf******believable: Talk Left Defends GZ (Zimmerman)
Unf******believable: Talk Left Defends GZ

Following a link I saw in a Tweet tonight I was led to an unbelievable POS at Talk Left.
TL is supposedly "The Online Magazine with Liberal coverage of crime-related political and injustice news" Bullshit.

It was like reading a Fox News report, but worse.

On President Obama's speech yesterday:

    The most objectionable part of his comments: Not once did he express any empathy for George Zimmerman, the man who was acquitted who spent the past 16 months under the cloud of criminal charges, and who continues to have a target on his back. emphasis mine


Empathy for a man who murdered an unarmed 17 year old?

I thought it couldn't get worse than that but it does.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/21/1225341/-Unf-believable-Talk-Left-Defends-GZ

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023306968

Star Member alcibiades_mystery (28,943 posts)
1. How low can they go?

If one's hatred for Obama extends to a complaint that he did not express sympathy for George Zimmerman, we really are through the looking glass with ODS. That's frothing territory.

daybranch (401 posts)
3. what do you believe really?

Do you believe that Zimmerman was so racist that he set out to kil an unarmed Afro-American? Do you believe he had the intent to hurt Zimmerman physically from the get go ? Do you believe that Trayvon was the one who was attacked first? Do you believe that Trayvon was only standing his ground? Do you believe that Zimmerman either beat his own head into something hard or that Trayvon did that? Do you believe that racists are waiting to kill Afro-Americans and hasve no fear of penalty if they do so? Do you believe that Zimmerman is totally without a conscience and killing Trayvon Martin has caused him no lasting guilt in his own mind? Do you believe that past acts of violence against AfroAmericans necessarily mean this is a KKK wannabe attack? Do you believe Zimmerman was protecting his life or not when he fired the gun? Do you believe that Zimmerman could have calmly said I have a gun so get off me and I will not shoot you? Do you believe that Martin would not try to prevent Zimmerman from reaching for the gun? Do you believe Zimmerman yelled for help in a plot to play the victim?Do you believe Trayvon knew about the gun and still struck Zimmerman ?

One can go on and on and I obviously have done that but the bottom line is, not only are you not supposed to make thinggs up as the defense attorney said, the things you make up when connected to the physical evidence support nothing more than self defense in a life and death struggle.

The cognitive dissonance being employed to whoop up anger, guilt, and action against not directly related laws and the justice system is more reflective of the republican party I hope than of thinking democrats.

I really care little whether Zimmerman gets empathy or not, he will live with this tragedy and suffer from it in a number of ways, but I worry that the fires of hate are being stoked to achieve political objectives, to raise money and to attack stand your ground laws, gun rights etc. I personally favor battling racism, battling stand your ground laws, and enacting more restrictive gun control than is usually contemplated in Congress. But again I know that we have to do this honestly with reason and facts and quit acting as if we are Fox News or the NRA who say anything to support their point.

Lets make our judgements rationally and then the emotion that comes will be valid. Lets not let the emotion create the judgement and more irrational judgements continue to inflame the emotions.

Goodbye, daybranch.

trumad (34,811 posts)
4. **** zimmerman and I hope he rots in hell for eternity

And that goes for his shit bird defenders. How's that for rational discussion?

About what was expected.

Scuba (27,747 posts)
5. "I worry that the fires of hate are being stoked to achieve political objectives ..."

No, it's the fires of decency and compassion. Hate was the emotion GZ carried with him, along with his gun.

You seem to miss that point entirely.

"Decency and compassion"   

Whisp (18,694 posts)
13. Zimmerman is a filthy liar and murderer. **** him to a thousand blazing hells.

Zim You! is the new expletive of the highest sweardom.

MineralMan (55,675 posts)
9. Not every blog or website with "Left" in its name

is a progressive blog or website. This Talk Left blog appears to be an example of that.

"Progressive" means there's no room for rationality, objectivity and critical analysis. "Progressive" means a lockstep, dogmatic mob mentality. Got it.

There is also a short article worth a read at Talk Left that addresses the ACLU's response to the DOJ's investigation and the detrimental effect of using this case as an example in calls for political and legal justice. Yes I know, at the end of the day they're all moonbats, but it's refreshing to see at least some of them get it some of the time, unlike DU.

ACLU Reverses Course on DOJ Investigation of Zimmerman

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/20/202943/953/crimenews/ACLU-Reverses-Course-on-DOJ-Investigation-of-Zimmerman

[obumazombie]

The ACLU came to their lib/dem/socialist senses.

[BlueStateSaint]

The ACLU came to their lib/dem/socialist senses.

I take it that Hell is supposed to get a few feet of snow, then?

[obumazombie]

I take it that Hell is supposed to get a few feet of snow, then?

Did nads report another 6 foot of hail in Mexico.

[Maxiest]

Their mob mentality is so f'ing ridiculous.

I listen to talk Radio whenever I am driving around, which is a lot.  And before the verdict Savage actually thought Zimmerman should get manslaughter.  You don't see me freaking the **** out.  I hear all sort of conservative commentators taking different stances on things although most of their core values are the same.  I would hate to part of a group that requires on line of thinking and if you don't think that way you are out, wrong, stupid, racist, a bigot, a thief and every other name the DUmmies can come up with.

It's like the post about the black man that was on Peirs Morgan.  He Is a house ****** and an uncle tom just because he doesn't agree with all the liberals?  I don't see why normal minded blacks and whites can't see this mob mentality are try to get away from it. 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I don't see why normal minded blacks and whites can't see this mob mentality are try to get away from it. 

It's empowering.

Serious question: What would the Proglodytes be focusing their political power on at this moment if not for this verdict?

ObamaCare? The economy? Foreign policy? The NSA? The IRS?

The less said about those things the better.

And it's not just mere distraction. They have no agenda. They have nothing to focus on. They NEED this because without it they are at best impotent, at worse the world will see them for the abject failures they really are.

[USA4ME]

It's empowering.

Serious question: What would the Proglodytes be focusing their political power on at this moment if not for this verdict?

ObamaCare? The economy? Foreign policy? The NSA? The IRS?

The less said about those things the better.

And it's not just mere distraction. They have no agenda. They have nothing to focus on. They NEED this because without it they are at best impotent, at worse the world will see them for the abject failures they really are.

I agree. They have to have some issue to bring out the black voters in 2014 since Dear Leader isn't on the ticket, and this is where they'll hang their hat. Problem is the election is 16 months away, and the emotionalism is bound to diminish.

.

[Skul]

There are two primitives that claim to be lawyers, over there.
I kind of tend to think they are. Their verbage and sentence structure points that way.
Several times, they have tried to explain hoe the courts work, and the law, as it is written.
The backlash from the poo-flinging monkeys was astounding.
I see two liberal lawyers, re-assess their political affiliation.

[BlueStateSaint]

It's empowering.

Serious question: What would the Proglodytes be focusing their political power on at this moment if not for this verdict?

ObamaCare? The economy? Foreign policy? The NSA? The IRS?

The less said about those things the better.

And it's not just mere distraction. They have no agenda. They have nothing to focus on. They NEED this because without it they are at best impotent, at worse the world will see them for the abject failures they really are.

As I stated in another thread, my wife has heard that the Dems at the national level are really starting to worry about the cumulative effect that these scandals is having--especially the IRS scandal.  Let's remember that one of the articles of impeachment for Richard Nixon was the use of the IRS against his political enemies.  Yeah, they can say things along the lines of "Liberal groups were under extra scrutiny too," but when one asks for the actual  numbers of liberal groups that got this 'extra scrutiny' (which came nowhere near the extra scrutiny that conservative groups did), one finds that 6 liberal groups were subject to this--and 592 conservative groups got the extra scrutiny from the IRS.  Southern Dems are scared about this, because they see themselves being voted out in their next elections.  The Dems in the Northeast might not get the wrath of the electorate, but what just may happen is that the Dems become a distinct minority--one that just may not be able to filibuster a future Republican president's legislation, or one that may not be able to stop a veto of the Democratic president's legislation.