Tell Republicans to Do Their Jobs and Stop The Sequester

[GOBUCKS]

I say let it happen. Let's find out what a real non event this is. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Obama is scrambling to find a way to avoid sequestration

No way. This is the biggest gift the leftists could ever have imagined. The media will unanimously explain that the whole thing is due to repukes protecting billionaires. The muslim will give a couple of speeches every day with a backdrop of starving schoolchildren. 60 Minutes will show how rotted meat is suddenly in every store due to a shortage of inspectors. The network evening news will show huge lines at security in major airports. They'll all warn that we no longer have the capacity to respond to imminent attacks from North Korea and in the Middle East. And they will explain over and over and over that it's all due to repukes refusing to agree to commonsense taxation of their fabulously wealthy friends.

Far from a non-event, the democrat press will make this appear to be a fiscal apocalypse, brought on solely by repuke intransigence.

Nope. A year ago, the muslim could never have imagined anything as wonderful as this sequestration boondoggle. He's so excited he may cancel his golf trip next month....well, not that excited.

[Dori]

This is just a tactic to try and destroy the Republican party once and for all.  Obama desperately wants both houses of congress come 2014, inorder to push every socialist bill through that they possibly can.

[Chris_]

I'm hoping 2014 is a replay of 2010.  Obama's base doesn't have the attention span to be bothered with midterm elections. 

[delilahmused]

I agree and that is why this matters. I do think this is a backdoor attempt to reduce the  military the way dems have always wanted to. Republicans were just stupid enough to fall for this in 2011.

And it's not meaningless; those of us earning livings in this way don't consider a day a week to be  meaningless, particularly when there isn't much work out there to make up for that lost day in this crappy ass economy. Many of which are average americans too who just happen to work in federal employment. Hard working conservatives no less and I hate to tell you all, but the DOD is really getting hit the hardest by this bullshit--not the leaches everyone here claims to hate, but the support system for our military. And everyone is focused on sticking it to the 'evil federal employee'. Yeah, EPA are federal employees, Health and Human Services also, but so too are those that support the military behind the scenes, many of whom would be welcome on this board.

I don't know about that. My son says that most of the time, civilians are the ones that mess things up. I can't tell you how many problems he and other Marines have had with civilians in admin. Maintenance isn't much better. They need someone to repair something like their heat or pipes...good luck getting it done within the month. He's dealt with it for 7 years so it's not like these are isolated incidents.

Still, I'm sorry people will lose their jobs, but again, the cuts are 0bama and his cabinet's choice. Like the rest of us who are having to tighten our belts, they have to make choices. It's their CHOICE to cause the most pain to people. Families have to make decisions too. For us, we choose to cut out some extras that make life easier and more fun but aren't necessary instead of things like heat and electricity. The government can make those choices too. But they won't because they no longer serve the people. They just throw tantrums and hurt as many people as they can when they don't get their way.

What are we supposed to do? We can't keep spending and spending and spending. Frankly, I can't afford to pay more taxes and I'm really mad that my grandchildren's children will be paying for our selfishness. Unfortunately, "we the people" don't get to choose where cuts are made. Should we beg our "betters" in the government to please, please, please spend more (followed, of course, by more taxes to pay for the spending...or more borrowing...from China) because we don't want cuts from our bloated government? But then, we'll probably have another last minute bend over from the Republicans with the same excuse they always give, "this isn't that important, we'll get through this and hold firm on bigger issues".

Cindie

[txradioguy]

Why would he feel compelled to "do his job" and submit a budget?

He gets paid regardless if he does "something" or just sits on his ass and looks pretty.

What all the Libtards are ignoring too is that Stretch Pelosi told everyone...didn't even try to hide it...the Dems weren't going to submit a budget proposal for 2009.  They started giving Obama cover for his profligate spending before he'd even taken the oath.

This is a deliberate strategy on the part of the Dems.

[txradioguy]

As far as the vcivilians being furloughed...I lay part of the blame on this at Rummy's feet.

He was the one taht came up with the grand scheme to push every green suiter out of a garrison position into the brigades and replace them with GS civilians.

Furloughs would be a non starter for the most part if there weren't civilians (who are more expensive on the bottom line) doing what a soldier can and would do.

[jtyangel]

I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.

[txradioguy]

I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.

There's lots of DA and DoD civilians that serve honorably.  Never said they didn't.  But if you're honest you have to admit that there are a lot of positions for the DA civlian workforce that could be now and used to be filled by green suiters.  I was merely pointing out that if the size of the civilian workforce was the same as it was say back in 1996 during the last budget "crisis" that the scare tactic of furloughs wouldn't work.  It wouldn't affect "800,000" federal employees the way the Libs are trying to convince us it will.

[hillneck]

They should shut down the Dept of Education, Dept of Commerce, Dept of Labor.
What the hell do those departments do anyway.
I wish the gop would say how the DOD is part of the Constitution but those others are NOT.

You can include the Dept. of Energy on that list.  It is a Carter creation, to break to U.S. dependence on Arab oil.  They have really succeeded in that task.

[DLR Pyro]

Obama’s Paycheck Exempted from ‘Sequester’

I see lord zero's wallet won't be affected in any way by the sequester.  I'm wondering, he keeps threatening us with tales of woe about how we won't be as safe with fewer Police and Fire personnel if the sequester hits.  Do these sequester cuts also extend to his Secret Service detail?


....didn't think so

[Rebel]

[thundley4]

As far as the vcivilians being furloughed...I lay part of the blame on this at Rummy's feet.

He was the one taht came up with the grand scheme to push every green suiter out of a garrison position into the brigades and replace them with GS civilians.

Furloughs would be a non starter for the most part if there weren't civilians (who are more expensive on the bottom line) doing what a soldier can and would do.

I thought it was Jimmy Carter that first replaced enlisted people with civilians in a lot of jobs. Didn't the Navy Exchange, and the PX used to be manned by military people?  Didn't the SeaBees do quite a bit of the construction needed by military bases?

[Dori]

Obama’s Paycheck Exempted from ‘Sequester’

I see lord zero's wallet won't be affected in any way by the sequester.  I'm wondering, he keeps threatening us with tales of woe about how we won't be as safe with fewer Police and Fire personnel if the sequester hits.  Do these sequester cuts also extend to his Secret Service detail?


....didn't think so

What do the Feds have to do with Police and Fire?  Isn't that a local thing?

[Karin]

I think it basically is; although they might get some federal help with some funding for this & that. 

Our fire depts around here are all volunteer.  No effect on us.  We have one Sheriff that we share between 2 villages, and I'm sure he's safe.  I don't rely on government much. 

[DefiantSix]

Tell Republicans to Do Their Jobs and Stop The Sequester

Since when is it the Republican's job to save O'bammy's stupid ass from himself, DUmbshit?

[Rebel]

To bring a post over from a poster at cnsbbs.com (formerly ncaabbs.com):

From BlazerFan11

$85 billion is the same amount the Fed is pouring into the market EVERY MONTH. Again I ask unto liberals who think we'll be living in pure anarchy after the sequester...what's going to happen when the Fed turns off the QE spigot, or even worse...starts selling off some of the $3+ trillion from its balance sheet?

[delilahmused]

I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.

Well, jtyangel, what do you suggest we do? I'm asking honestly because this can't continue. Had taxpayers handled their finances this way they'd have lost everything by now and living in a homeless shelter. Should we capitulate? Should we just go ahead and agree to 0bama's demands? Because that's the only way to solve this. He won't negotiate. He's made that clear and the house has made genuine efforts to talk to him and try to find compromise. I don't want to see anyone lose their job. My husband didn't want to have 4 jobs in the last 4-5 years, either. All were do to cutbacks or companies going out of business. Plenty of patriots who are/would be welcome on this board have lost jobs.

The only way to sustain this kind of government growth (and the sequester isn't really a cut...nothing is being cut, it's just that it's not being grown to the percentage the government wants) is to raise taxes because that's the only solution this administration will accept. Tax increases cost private sector jobs which means there's less tax revenue. In addition, companies know 0bamacare is right around the corner so they're scared into stagnation already. And most people know and understand this can't continue or we will collapse. Do we continue until that point? That's gonna hurt a whole lot more people much more severely. What would you do? Honestly, I'm not being facetious. You're the republican house. The president won't budge. The senate won't budge. The only real tool you have is what they're doing now. What would you do? Would it be better to continue creating debt until we can't do it anymore and we collapse? Should we just continue to give the dems what they want and hope we get a fiscal conservative next presidential election? We're so demonized now (that's mostly our fault because we have no one with the charisma and balls to plead our case), I wouldn't be surprised if we lost all branches of the government again. I guess if that happens it won't matter anyway.

Cindie

[Wineslob]

Again, the sequester is complete bullshit.

WE HAVE BASELINE BUDGETING the only "issue" is the Dems creating crisis where there isn't any.

If a public Fed employee gets furloughed, it's OBAMA that REQUESTS IT.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.

I appreciate your service, Jetty.  I've been on both sides of it too, and I understand where you're coming from.

 

[NHSparky]

We're spending over 25 percent of GDP on federal budget.  We're taking in about 16-17 percent.  No offense to our public sector employees here, but frankly, when the largest single employer is government, does nobody see this as a problem?

[DumbAss Tanker]

We're spending over 25 percent of GDP on federal budget.  We're taking in about 16-17 percent.  No offense to our public sector employees here, but frankly, when the largest single employer is government, does nobody see this as a problem?

Of course it is, however Federal employee salaries are just one element, and not all that overwhelming an element, of the budget.  We need to cut the DOD and its employees so we can afford to require the same DOD to buy 20% of its fuel from 'Renewable' sources at a real cost of twice to one hundred times the commercial price of petrochemical fuels, or so we can give away $7500 of tax money for every POS Volt?  Give me a break.  And anybody who says 'Do it with green/blue suiters' really and truly doesn't understand how they cost out, their piss-poor availability to do any actual work after unit taskings and personal affairs issues including education, or the fact that active endstrength limits which prevent that from happening and still having a deployable force.  Contracting out is even worse for anything that isn't a purely temporary requirement, thanks to the union-protective laws like Service Contract Act.

Also, in DOD, civilian salaries are purely paid out of local installation O&M funding, the general cash that is authorized annually and used for everything from fuel to copy paper to construction under $750,000 to pothole filling to landscaping to paint for idle troops to make rock signs look prettier.  From any real fiscal standpoint, minus the painful artificialities Obama wants to impose to screw with Congress and get people to scream at them, it's really a local budget issue that could easily be handled within the available existing appropriation.