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If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« on: January 14, 2013, 08:38:54 PM »
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If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.


 
Now this is a topic we should really push. Both red and blue state citizens will NOT like this.
Republicans will be in hot water if their constituents don't get their expected refund.

I am posting this because of a post I read in LBN.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014368407

I'm going to go spread this on my Facebook. Just my tiny effort to make people think.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251275601

Would be a shame if the 0bamaphone crowd didn't get their EIC checks on time.

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2. The IRS owes me a ton this year...

...and I'd better f-----g get it. 

The IRS needs that money more than you do.

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8. The idiot-heads will still blame Obama, unfortunately.

They will not learn, even if they end up homeless and on the street they will still blame Obama.

Nah the idiot heads, you guys, will blame Bush and the repukes like you always do.
Unlike you 0din we are responsible for our own lives so we won't end up homeless and on the streets, but a lot of you will.

I don't know why all of you are crying about this, Boner and the gang will cave anyway. Hell you goons got them to raise taxes so why should they not fall in line for 0bama over this too? I'm guessing the so called republicans will pass more gun control laws as well. I swear you goons act like there is an opposition party. The GOP merely puts on a show before they rubber stamp Lord 0's agenda.



I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 08:44:09 PM »
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8. The idiot-heads will still blame Obama, unfortunately.

They will not learn, even if they end up homeless and on the street they will still blame Obama.

Obama controls the purse strings when it comes to disbursing tax revenues.  He's already holding social security and military pay hostage, so why not tax refunds too.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 08:45:09 PM »
Obama controls the purse strings when it comes to disbursing tax revenues.  He's already holding social security and military pay hostage, so why not tax refunds too.

Like I said the GOP will jump and ask how high.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 08:48:42 PM »
Like I said the GOP will jump and ask how high.



Brit Hume has been hammering the point that not raising the debt ceiling does not mean the US defaults on it's debts.  It's entirely up to Obama whether the US defaults or not.  There is plenty of tax revenues to pay the required debt payments.  Just not enough for continued new spending.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 08:54:28 PM »
Brit Hume has been hammering the point that not raising the debt ceiling does not mean the US defaults on it's debts.  It's entirely up to Obama whether the US defaults or not.  There is plenty of tax revenues to pay the required debt payments.  Just not enough for continued new spending.

Brit can hammer till the cows come home, the GOP is going to cave.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 09:29:23 PM »
Brit can hammer till the cows come home, the GOP is going to cave.


Without a doubt they will.  Boehner has no spine whatsoever. Another problem is that the MSM is squarely in Obama's corner and won't let the truth be heard.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 10:50:29 PM »
Obama sounds like a broken record.  Even the state run Media is going to get tired of carrying his water. 

Anyone read the story of "The Boy Why Cried Wolf"?
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 03:15:34 AM »
Obama sounds like a broken record.  Even the state run Media is going to get tired of carrying his water. 

Anyone read the story of "The Boy Why Cried Wolf"?


Yeah, but in the book, the people had enough sense to ignore the boy after the second time. 
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 03:37:04 AM »
Obama sounds like a broken record.  Even the state run Media is going to get tired of carrying his water. 

Anyone read the story of "The Boy Why Cried Wolf"?


I see no evidence of that ever happening.  I wish I were wrong.
              

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 05:25:33 AM »
I see no evidence of that ever happening.  I wish I were wrong.

I have to agree with you there.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 07:58:03 AM »
Tax Refunds = annual welfare check to the no federal tax paying government dependent democrat voters......so, refund checks will go out.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 08:07:29 AM »
Without a doubt they will.  Boehner has no spine whatsoever. Another problem is that the MSM is squarely in Obama's corner and won't let the truth be heard.

I am so pissed at Obama's ego.   he says it's irresponsible to not pay our debts.  It's IRRESPONSIBLE to make debts knowing we don't have the damn money.  He is screwing over all of us and our children. 






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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 08:12:50 AM »
Tax Refunds = annual welfare check to the no federal tax paying government dependent democrat voters......so, refund checks will go out.

Um, not true.  I file Single-Zero, and da gubmint takes out far more than they need, and when I do my taxes, I have mortgage interest, etc., to factor into that.

I'd like to file with enough dependents to have less taken out, but not so much I owe my first-born to them in April.

Cause I don't like giving the government a year-long interest-free loan.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 08:25:15 AM »
Um, not true.  I file Single-Zero, and da gubmint takes out far more than they need, and when I do my taxes, I have mortgage interest, etc., to factor into that.

I'd like to file with enough dependents to have less taken out, but not so much I owe my first-born to them in April.

Cause I don't like giving the government a year-long interest-free loan.




I was referring to those on welfare, etc. that pay nothing in but file a tax return and get a refund anyway......welfare moms here in the projects are the first to file and get thousands back.

Remember when Bush lowed taxes on those that actually paid federal taxes that the democrats raised hell because their voters that didn't pay taxes didn't get an increase in their freebie tax return?
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 08:26:24 AM »
I am so pissed at Obama's ego.   he says it's irresponsible to not pay our debts.  It's IRRESPONSIBLE to make debts knowing we don't have the damn money.  He is screwing over all of us and our children. 

He also doesn't believe we have a spending problem.  Told that to Boehner's face.  Said he was tired of hearing that complaint.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 08:27:13 AM »


I was referring to those on welfare, etc. that pay nothing in but file a tax return and get a refund anyway......welfare moms here in the projects are the first to file and get thousands back.

Remember when Bush lowed taxes on those that actually paid federal taxes that the democrats raised hell because their voters that didn't pay taxes didn't get an increase in their freebie tax return?

Oh yeah--I know what you mean about the EIC crowd.  God knows there's enough of them around here.  Get a job and quit it before their income cracks the EIC limit for however many, etc...

Don't get me started.  Last year I ran into a kid in the local watering hole who was blowing HUNDREDS on a bar tab that night because he got (he bragged) $7K back.  I knew this kid didn't have a pot to piss in.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 08:46:53 AM »
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2013, 10:01:49 AM »
It's IRRESPONSIBLE to make debts knowing we don't have the damn money.  He is screwing over all of us and our children. 

Well, actually, you could say that neither the muslim, nor W, nor any other president created even a dime of the debt.

As far as I know, we don't spend money, or obligate the country to spend money in the future, unless the Congress signs on in one way or another.

Money spent, which means debt created, by the executive branch comes from appropriations authorized by legislation.

Wars, food stamps, cash for clunkers, or socialized medicine, it can all be traced back to buckets of appropriated money.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2013, 10:03:28 AM »
DUmmies, I get back very little..........................I only pay what I have to.   :whatever:
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 10:11:09 AM »
He also doesn't believe we have a spending problem.  Told that to Boehner's face.  Said he was tired of hearing that complaint.

And every alki believes the same thing.  It is called denial.  Next we can discuss co-dependency which is where the Republicans are.  

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I am begining to believe we need to hit fisical rock bottom and begin a 12 step program back.  


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These are the original Twelve Steps as published by Alcoholics Anonymous:

1.We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.
2.Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3.Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4.Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5.Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6.Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7.Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8.Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9.Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10.Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
11.Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12.Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2013, 10:23:21 AM »
I'd like to file with enough dependents to have less taken out, but not so much I owe my first-born to them in April.

If you can still file using the itemized schedule (form 1040 A) then you should claim more deductions on your employers W-4 form.  I believe there is a formula on the back of the W-4 that explains how many exemptions you can take vs amount of deductions you claim.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2013, 10:23:35 AM »
I see no evidence of that ever happening.  I wish I were wrong.

Regretfully, I must agree.
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2013, 12:31:52 PM »
I make sure that i always owe in April. I don't give interest free loans to corrupt thieves.
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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2013, 03:26:56 PM »
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If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.

OK I think it is time to bring this out again:

Harry Ried: Social Security is fully funded and solvent
Barrack Obama: If the debt ceiling isn't raised, SS checks will not go out!

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Re: If the US defaults.... taxpayers may not get their tax refunds.
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2013, 03:28:40 PM »
I make sure that i always owe in April. I don't give interest free loans to corrupt thieves.

Anymore putting it in a CD is damn near an interest free loan. 
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