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NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« on: January 14, 2013, 11:48:48 AM »
NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gun-Control-Assault-Weapons-Ban-Magazines-Limit-Cuomo-NY-186794151.html

Not surprised coming out of New York.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 07:09:21 AM »
Dandy Andy wanted to be the 'first'--even before the Oministration. :hammer:
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 08:43:32 AM »
this has to be the craziest part of it

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Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.

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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 09:19:57 AM »
Man I love it, I fully expect 100% of all shootings to come to an immediate halt if not sooner.  They sure are smart people up there.  I am sure they have data that supports the fact that a pistol grip on a rifle is a real problem...I have been telling folks for years, get rid of pistol grips and watch gun violence plummet.

Speaking of brilliant ideas, hold those mags to only 7 rounds, now that is IMPACT, gonna bring mass killings to a complete halt...

One thing missing from the bill was a complete ban on leather gloves.  Leather gloves are the next challenge for congress, outlaw them and all gun violence will end...

See leather gloves in action here, watch the first 6 seconds and see how leather gloves take a non semi auto weapon and make it fire as fast if not faster than an AR:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2oZ6Kv_qo
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 09:36:58 AM »
Pretty sure my Ruger 10/22 has nothing but 10 round magazines.  Am I missing something or are even these magazines going to be illegal?

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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 09:51:20 AM »
They keep voting in liberals, liberals are going to keep doing the same things, play stupid games, get stupid prizes.  Until the good people of NYS get their heads out of their asses and get rid of these clowns they will continue to get the government they deserve.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 09:53:22 AM »
Pretty sure my Ruger 10/22 has nothing but 10 round magazines.  Am I missing something or are even these magazines going to be illegal?
Wait till they see mine, back to back 25 rds mags:


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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 10:23:42 AM »
this has to be the craziest part of it



Meaning my scary non-black, non-flash suppressor, non-bayonet mount, non-"assault weapon" .45 caliber pistol is now illegal in NY state.

Atta boy, Cuomo.  You just ****ed yourself out of any chance at president in 2016.  Thank God for small favors.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 10:24:30 AM »
Wait till they see mine, back to back 25 rds mags:




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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 10:35:38 AM »
Ooooooo...daddy LIKE!!!!
Thanks, that is actually my Retirement present from my staff when I retired from the Army...its my snake gun.  I love to get in some real backwoods and work the creeks and rivers for water mocs...ranchers love it as their calves don't get bit in the face and often die in the spring.

Killing snake in the water is not easy.  Just about only  head shot will do, soon as the bullet hits the water it diverts its path and loses most of its energy, snakes being round the bullet will rarely penetrate the body.

Its a great survival weapon you can drop a lot of game with it suitable for eating (rabbit, squirrel, etc), one of my all time fav weapons...
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 11:04:29 AM »
Atta boy, Cuomo.  You just ****ed yourself out of any chance at president in 2016.  Thank God for small favors.

Pretty much.  That gun grabbing BS doesn't play very well outside of NYS.  For that matter, it does not appear to be playing too well in NYS.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 11:06:54 AM »
Pretty much.  That gun grabbing BS doesn't play very well outside of NYS.  For that matter, it does not appear to be playing too well in NYS.

And yet the libtards won't stop for lack of trying.  This is from my and Zeit's (sadly) Congresscritter, Carol Che-Pelosi:

http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130115/GJNEWS_01/130119528
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 11:12:53 AM »
And yet the libtards won't stop for lack of trying.  This is from my and Zeit's (sadly) Congresscritter, Carol Che-Pelosi:

http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130115/GJNEWS_01/130119528

Are you sure that's not Mike Myers in a wig?





Why is it these liberal hags are so butt ass ugly?
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 11:14:49 AM »
Sounds like it would outlaw almost all large-caliber automatic pistols, except the 1911/1911A1 with a stock magazine.  If their definition of 'Magazine' isn't limited to detachable box magazines,  then it also hits the ubiquitous SKS (Which they probably do intend) but also virtually every tube-feed .22 semiauto rifle ever made, as well as the Garand.  Actually the magazine limit may stand independently of the weapon it fits, which would make SMLEs and many others impossible to own.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 11:18:18 AM »
Wasp--trust me, that's a "GOOD" picture of her.

Zeit can attest to that.  She's let herself go BADLY.  And she's still dumber than a bag of hammers.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 11:56:19 AM »
Ooooooo...daddy LIKE!!!!

Do people who already own that kind of weapon get to keep them/

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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 12:12:30 PM »
One of our lawyers here had a copy of the bill, and he went over some of the salient points.

It appears that SKS and Garand rifles are not covered by the ban, as they do not have detachable magazines.  However, since there's no rimfire exemption, a Ruger 10/22 is covered.  All of them in possession by Boy Scout troops in NYS are now illegal.  My Nylon 66 is not covered, as it is a tube-fed weapon.

There's definitely some 'points of interpretation' here.  More as we read through the thing.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2013, 12:59:58 PM »
Do people who already own that kind of weapon get to keep them/
In my case, I keep mine, my mags, folding stock, pistol grip the whole deal, I UNCONCERNED about any law, rules, regs or anything that spews out of bammy or pelosi, reid, schumers mouth.  I follow the 2nd Amendment and its quite clear...'shall not be infringed'!

The ONLY way to get your hands on my weapons is to cross my barbed wire fence onto sovereign American and Texas and 17 Oaks soil and 'this I will defend'.  Unlike Waco, I won't wait for you to send in tanks and helicopters, if I can see you, you are on my property.
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Re: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2013, 01:08:21 PM »
Do people who already own that kind of weapon get to keep them/

Seriously, what are your panties all bunched up over?  It's a ****ing .22, not a bazooka, for Chrissakes.

And yeah, in TX, better believe it, although Obumbles would love to take even that from us.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 01:42:24 PM »
Seriously, what are your panties all bunched up over?  It's a ****ing .22, not a bazooka, for Chrissakes.

And yeah, in TX, better believe it, although Obumbles would love to take even that from us.

Spark you are right on, if they can get Texas then they will remain evermore in the WH...we need to worry as whitey is only 45% of the states pop...
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2013, 01:51:27 PM »
Pretty much.  That gun grabbing BS doesn't play very well outside of NYS.  For that matter, it does not appear to be playing too well in NYS.

It's not playing too well in upstate NY.  Unfortunately, what those freaks in the city want, the rest of us have to suffer with.

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2013, 02:42:51 PM »
So what about the Glocks the cops carry? Who's going to sell them replacement magazines and new weapons when they need them if they can't buy them in NYS or get them online?
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2013, 05:29:38 AM »
So what about the Glocks the cops carry? Who's going to sell them replacement magazines and new weapons when they need them if they can't buy them in NYS or get them online?

And the law of unintended consequences strikes again.... :banghead:
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2013, 06:43:58 AM »
It's not playing too well in upstate NY.  Unfortunately, what those freaks in the city want, the rest of us have to suffer with.

Have any polls been made in upstate NY on these gun control laws?

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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2013, 07:35:51 AM »
Do people who already own that kind of weapon get to keep them/

I'm sure NYers who appreciate our Constitution and own that or any other firearm will keep them.  If I lived in NY you can be damn sure the laws stripping me of my constitutional rights would be ignored.   Let me know when when criminals of all stripes are totally disarmed.