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Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« on: January 09, 2013, 08:57:39 PM »
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http://www.politicususa.com/obama-amendment-smack-deport-piers-morgan-petition.html

Obama Uses the First Amendment to Smack Down Deport Piers Morgan Petition

By: Jason Easley
Jan. 9th, 2013


The White House has responded to the deport Piers Morgan petition by giving the right wing a little refresher course on the First Amendment.

In response to the petition to deport “British Citizen Piers Morgan for Attacking 2nd Amendment,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney wrote,

Thank you for participating in We the People to speak out on an issue that matters to you.

Let’s not let arguments over the Constitution’s Second Amendment violate the spirit of its First. President Obama believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. However, the Constitution not only guarantees an individual right to bear arms, but also enshrines the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press — fundamental principles that are essential to our democracy. Americans may disagree on matters of public policy and express those disagreements vigorously, but no one should be punished by the government simply because he or she expressed a view on the Second Amendment — or any other matter of public concern.

We recognize that the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, sparked an intense, and at times emotional, national conversation about the steps we can take as a country to reduce gun violence. In fact, your petition is one of many on the issue, and President Obama personally responded by sharing his views on this important issue.


In short, President Obama reminded the right that the constitution is not their personal toy. They don’t get to violate the rights of another, or in this case the rest of us, because they disagree with the opinions of others. The right was willing to throw out the freedoms of speech and press, because they were upset over what Piers Morgan said about the Second Amendment.

Obama’s lesson was simple. The Second Amendment is not more important than any of our other constitutionally protected rights.

Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022163371

We don't violate the rights of others, we leave that to you. Every time I turn around you goons demand that yet another right be stripped from us. Then you make up a whole slew of things that are not rights and call them rights because you want us to pay for them.

Why is it DUmmies that everything you consider a right requires more government and more taking from others? Yet everything we consider rights and rights that are spelled out in the Constitution requires government to get the hell out of the way and doesn't take a dime from anyone else.


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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 09:13:04 PM »
Yet he is working to undo the 2nd by fiat as we breathe.

**** you O,Lincoln said the civil war was in the hands of the countryman not his.
You are looking to reverse that circumstance so be aware of the consequence.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 09:16:57 PM »
Oh ffs.

No one actually believed Morgan was going to be deported for being an insufferable prick. Least of all by the Obama administration. It was a symbolic act, you numbnuts.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 09:20:32 PM »
The first is supposed to protect speech.
It says nothing about sending a foreign jerk packing.
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John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 09:54:03 PM »
Yet they would cheer Rush being sent to Siberia for speaking his mind. Ask Mark Steyn or Michael Savage about it you ****ing hypocrites.

I used to think I detested liars most of all but I have grown to loathe hypocrites more. You people can take a bow for that.

You people still want to ban hate speech?  I love how you scream "first amendment rights" when an idiot on your side says something vile but want to ruin the livelihood or worse of someone who says something you don't agree with.  What will you do when we regain power?  Remember what goes around comes around...karma is a BITCH.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 10:22:13 PM »
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In short, President Obama reminded the right that the constitution is not their personal toy. They don’t get to violate the rights of another, or in this case the rest of us, because they disagree with the opinions of others.

 :bird: :bird: :bird:

Tell that to the guy the Little Dictator had arrested for making a movie.

Quote from: BEG on January 09, 2013, 09:54:03 PM

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At least they're up front about it.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 12:21:48 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on January 09, 2013, 10:22:13 PM
:bird: :bird: :bird:

Tell that to the guy the Little Dictator had arrested for making a movie.
At least they're up front about it.
That part.  :cheersmate:
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2013, 12:40:49 AM »
Quote from: Skul on January 09, 2013, 09:20:32 PM
The first is supposed to protect speech.

Yes. Speech protected from retaliation by the Government.

Citizen or not, free speech is what it is and it is very disconcerting to hear conservatives wanting the state to take legal action against someone they don't agree with.

Edit: Skul, not adressing you directly.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2013, 12:46:44 AM by vlad335 »
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 12:53:18 AM »
Quote from: vlad335 on January 10, 2013, 12:40:49 AM
Yes. Speech protected from retaliation by the Government.

Citizen or not, free speech is what it is and it is very disconcerting to hear conservatives wanting the state to take legal action against someone they don't agree with.
Read the following sentence in that comment.
Individual is a foreign nation advocating against our laws.
His speech may be protected, his status here, is not.
The intent of the law is to protect citizens againt reprisal.
It does not protect foreigners from removal.
BS for being silly.
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 01:10:26 AM »
Note to DUmmies...the only reason the WH said "thanks but no thanks" on the deport Piers Morgan petition...is because he's a stupid gun grabber like you Libtards.

Had Morgan been pro 2nd Amendment...they'd have been readying his deportation order as we speak.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 01:11:39 AM »
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President Obama believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. However, the Constitution not only guarantees an individual right to bear arms, but also enshrines the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press — fundamental principles that are essential to our democracy.

No...he doesn't.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2013, 01:12:34 AM »
Amazing how the DUmmies...in their rush to cheer about this online petition going nowhere...ignore the hundreds of times they've tried this crap...and failed.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2013, 01:34:24 AM »
Quote from: Skul on January 10, 2013, 12:53:18 AM
Read the following sentence in that comment.
Individual is a foreign nation advocating against our laws.
His speech may be protected, his status here, is not.
The intent of the law is to protect citizens againt reprisal.
It does not protect foreigners from removal.
BS for being silly.

I stand by what I posted.

I see your point but respectfully disagree. Piers Morgan is a douche of the highest order but I will never advocate a central government taking action against him because of his speech. Should he lose a majority of his viewership and be fired I have no problem with.

It goes both ways. Perhaps if Mark Steyn were deported by the Obama administration you would understand where I am coming from.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2013, 01:44:07 AM »
Quote from: vlad335 on January 10, 2013, 01:34:24 AM
I stand by what I posted.

I see your point but respectfully disagree. Piers Morgan is a douche of the highest order but I will never advocate a central government taking action against him because of his speech. Should he lose a majority of his viewership and be fired I have no problem with.

It goes both ways. Perhaps if Mark Steyn were deported by the Obama administration you would understand where I am coming from.

Read this.
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/408/753/
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2013, 05:34:24 AM »
Quote from: vlad335 on January 10, 2013, 12:40:49 AM
Yes. Speech protected from retaliation by the Government.

Citizen or not, free speech is what it is and it is very disconcerting to hear conservatives wanting the state to take legal action against someone they don't agree with.

Edit: Skul, not adressing you directly.

The petition was nothing more than a publicity stunt. I don't think anyone expected 0bama to boot his ass back to England.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2013, 01:52:13 PM »
Quote from: BEG on January 09, 2013, 09:54:03 PM
Yet they would cheer Rush being sent to Siberia for speaking his mind. Ask Mark Steyn or Michael Savage about it you ****ing hypocrites.

I used to think I detested liars most of all but I have grown to loathe hypocrites more. You people can take a bow for that.

You people still want to ban hate speech?  I love how you scream "first amendment rights" when an idiot on your side says something vile but want to ruin the livelihood or worse of someone who says something you don't agree with.  What will you do when we regain power?  Remember what goes around comes around...karma is a BITCH.

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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2013, 02:46:15 PM »
Ah, babble-on sister.  Let's not forget what one of the top ten most intelligent people to ever post at Skin's island had to say about her.

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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2013, 03:24:22 PM »
Quote from: dandi on January 09, 2013, 09:16:57 PM
Oh ffs.

No one actually believed Morgan was going to be deported for being an insufferable prick. Least of all by the Obama administration. It was a symbolic act, you numbnuts.

They really thought he was going to be kicked out?  :???:
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2013, 03:30:21 PM »
Quote from: Gina on January 10, 2013, 03:24:22 PM
They really thought he was going to be kicked out?  :???:

No but they thought that was really the objective. I believe the objective was to make a political statement.
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Re: Consider yourselves schooled “patriots.”
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2013, 04:08:05 PM »
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The right was willing to throw out the freedoms of speech and press, because they were upset over what Piers Morgan said about the Second Amendment


Really, DUmpmonkiees?

Two words: Political Correctness.

Tell me, who has been championing that?
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