I'm 55 years old and have never owned a gun in my life.

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I'm 55 years old and have never owned a gun in my life.

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Have I shot one-- sure---I was in the Airborne Infantry.

I've shot pretty much every weapon imaginable---all the way up to a 50mm machine gun. But again---that was in the Military.

But in civilian life... never had a reason to own one.

Personal protection? From what, the off chance someone breaks in my house? Well, it hasn't happened in 55 years.

A hobby? Perhaps... but once you've shot a 50mm, a handgun is quite boring.

I know you meant a .50 cal but you would think having shooting one you would remember that.

Also, just because no one broke into your house, it does not mean no one ever had their house broken into.

I'd love to see some statistics on how many people have used a gun and saved themselves from an intruder or bad guy.

Funny but I don't see too many stories of that happening.

The NRA publishes stories that deal with that but the stories do not reach mass market because it does not reinforce the narrative that guns are evil.

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Thank you for that. I could never understand these people who say they are "protecting their property". What? It's worth killing someone over some crap you bought at a store?

I'm an avowed minimalist and there's nothing in my small condo that I can't live without. I don't need a gun, a security system, an attack dog (my dog would wag her tail and show you the way to the cupboard where the dog treats are kept) because I refuse to live every waking moment I have left (I'm an older woman) in fear of what MIGHT happen to me.

I was married to someone like that - couldn't go anywhere, not even up to the corner ice cream stand without strapping on his gun. He lived in fear of everything and he's suffered in more ways than one because of that fear, but you could never get him to see it. It's why I'm no longer with him. He was also a bully and a coward and if a real man confronted him he'd quiver in his shoes.

Protecting their property does not just mean physical items but maintaining the security of the home and the people inside from people who intead to do them harm.


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ProgressiveProfessor (19,377 posts)
43. Not everything is a home invasion

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- Events happen outside the home
- Some people don't call the police since they do not trust them (funny how that works)
- That a civilian weapon as used but not fired has not historically been tracked.

It really is a critical metric but there is no way to track it.

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Sarah Ibarruri (18,488 posts)
53. Yeah? I've never had a thing happen to me, and I'm a woman, and I carry no gun. Further...

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I don't know anyone, male or female, that has had something happen to them outside the home.

I have heard of drive-by shootings in bad neighborhoods, and how are you going to defend yourself when a car drives by and shoots you? How fast can you pull out your gun and defend yourself when you're already on the ground, bleeding to death?

What's more, drive-by shootings and other such things we have courtesy of people who have a gun fetish, and insist that guns of all kinds should be freely sold. This country has more guns than people. Ridiculous. Absurd. DANGEROUS!

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ProgressiveProfessor (19,377 posts)
83. Then you must not have any GLBT friends who have been bashed, harassed, or threatened

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which means you may not have any GLBT friends

Gun culture idiots don't do drivebys, that is the thug culture idiots. They are markedly different.

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Sarah Ibarruri (18,488 posts)
92. Oh, no doubt about gun nuts shooting GLBT folks, just as they shoot kids

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I agree with you. GLBT folks run the same risk of getting shot by gun nuts as anyone else in this country. What's your issue?

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ProgressiveProfessor (19,377 posts)
93. GLBTs are at the same risk for being assaulted as the rest of us?

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In what fantasy land do you live in? Certainly not the USA

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Sarah Ibarruri (18,488 posts)
94. So they get shot more? And you're in favor of guns????? You're nuts nt

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ProgressiveProfessor (19,377 posts)
95. I am in favor of effective self defense for those who need it

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And far and way the most effective self defense weapon is a handgun.

I teach firearms mostly to GLBTs and women for that reason. They are often reluctant gun owners but have come to the realization that until things change, they have little choice. The police cannot be there in real time, and are sometimes part of the problem. These are not people in bad neighborhoods participating in questionable activities. Sometimes it follows them home. T*s are being slaughtered in some cities and NOTHING IS BEING DONE. These are not gun nuts. They will probably never by any kind of long gun, AR, AK, or otherwise. They will disarm when the threat passes.

Maybe you can be the one standing over them telling them that it was better they get their brains bashed in or got tortured and shot rather that own an evil pistol. I however, will continue to help them until the threat passes. It seems the progressive thing to do.

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Sarah Ibarruri (18,488 posts)
96. Oh I see. So you're in favor of those shooting gays being able to keep their guns? Demented. nt

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ProgressiveProfessor (19,377 posts)
98. No, I am in favor of people having the tools to defend themselves against predators

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My focus is on GLBTs being able to resist effectively since the cops are not going to be able to do a thing except write reports, assuming they care to show up.

Your constructive obtuseness is an obvious fail...

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Sarah Ibarruri (18,488 posts)
113. To defend themselves from the guns you are arguing to keep out there and available, right? nt

This last bit just makes me 

salinen (7,166 posts)
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I'd either run out the back, or, hide, or, assist them in taking what they want. I don't want to murder anyone, even a thief.

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Iggo (21,024 posts)
33. "I don't want to murder anyone, even a thief."

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That's beautiful right there.

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Star Member Comrade_McKenzie (1,686 posts)
26. Sometimes you have to put the lives of others before what you like to do

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Decent human beings will lay down their guns after this.

Again, they all assume the only reason people will enter their home is for property. How often has a property crime turned into something much worse?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre
DUmmies, **** you for trying to impose your selfish, short-sighted and delusional views of disarmament on the rest us. 

[Airwolf]

Some serious stupid on the part of Sara Imaboobi. She must not watch the news or read the paper then when someone does use a gun for self defense. How many times have we seen home invasions go one and the home owner(s) were beaten, robbed and sometimes shot. Those home invasions are not done  without the bad guys being armed in some form and I'm pretty certain that even a  DUmmy wouldn't care to be raped by anyone for any reason.

If it wasn't for the fact I was armed the night some ass decided tottake the law into his own hands and shoot his daughters ex boyfriend in the back of the head things may have turned out far worse then that when he entered the store I was working at and ran into the employees instead of me. The man had a .40 cal Glock and three spare magazines on him and he could have shot as many people as he could have had it not been for the fact I was right there in front of him when he came into the store and I had my gun with me. Sorry but the old saying that it is better to have a gun and not need it is better to have need of one and not have it is true.

[vesta111]

Some serious stupid on the part of Sara Imaboobi. She must not watch the news or read the paper then when someone does use a gun for self defense. How many times have we seen home invasions go one and the home owner(s) were beaten, robbed and sometimes shot. Those home invasions are not done  without the bad guys being armed in some form and I'm pretty certain that even a  DUmmy wouldn't care to be raped by anyone for any reason.

If it wasn't for the fact I was armed the night some ass decided tottake the law into his own hands and shoot his daughters ex boyfriend in the back of the head things may have turned out far worse then that when he entered the store I was working at and ran into the employees instead of me. The man had a .40 cal Glock and three spare magazines on him and he could have shot as many people as he could have had it not been for the fact I was right there in front of him when he came into the store and I had my gun with me. Sorry but the old saying that it is better to have a gun and not need it is better to have need of one and not have it is true.

I do not believe Miss Sara heard about the bankers wife and two daughters that were invaded by two men that raped the little girls, tied them to their beds and poured gasoline on them and burned them all up alive.

So both received the death penalty that will come about in 20+ years with appeals etc.---------What ever happend to public Hangings of the True Monsters ????  I am not talking about those that shoot and kill in a robbery, I am speaking of the Monsters that make their victims suffer.

[formerlurker]

I do not believe Miss Sara heard about the bankers wife and two daughters that were invaded by two men that raped the little girls, tied them to their beds and poured gasoline on them and burned them all up alive.

Excellent point vesta - but they would help these intruders.  "I don't want to murder anyone, even a thief."

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I'd either run out the back, or, hide, or, assist them in taking what they want. I don't want to murder anyone, even a thief.

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Star Member Comrade_McKenzie (1,686 posts)
26. Sometimes you have to put the lives of others before what you like to do

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Decent human beings will lay down their guns after this.

[Jasonw560]

Any DUmmy lurkers, PLEASE copy this link and send it to Sara Imadoofus and trudumb.

http://www.kbtx.com/news/headlines/132355023.html

This was my mom's best friend and her husband. This wasn't a drive-by in some drug infested cesspool. This was in a nice gated community.

So, it may not have happened to you, but it COULD happen to you.

Both of you can eat shit and bark at the moon.

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salinen (7,166 posts)

25. If someone breaks into my house

I'd either run out the back, or, hide, or, assist them in taking what they want. I don't want to murder anyone, even a thief.

That's why pussies like you are always the choice victim.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I've shot pretty much every weapon imaginable---all the way up to a 50mm machine gun

Oooooh, I saw a bunch of those for sale with no paperwork at the gun show the other weekend!

 

Moron.  Whose airborne infantry were you with, Zaire's?

[jukin]

50MM machine gun? Right. I bought one of those for my wife, Morgan Fairchild.

My dad gave me .22 Marlin 60 and a brick of long rifle on my eighth birthday. We went out and shot it. He showed me safety about firearms and how to properly shoot and maintain it. A couple of friends and I  used to go out and plink by ourselves. I still have that gun but have not shot it in years.

[JohnnyReb]

So much stupid, so little time to read it all......

[Carl]

If idiocy in use of a product was cause to ban it then DUmbasses would have robbed us of computers long ago.

[JohnnyReb]

If idiocy in use of a product was cause to ban it then DUmbasses would have robbed us of computers long ago.

We would have outlawed stone tools during the stone age because DUmmies couldn't handle them safely.

[Jasonw560]

50MM machine gun? Right. I bought one of those for my wife, Morgan Fairchild.

My dad gave me .22 Marlin 60 and a brick of long rifle on my eighth birthday. We went out and shot it. He showed me safety about firearms and how to properly shoot and maintain it. A couple of friends and I  used to go out and plink by ourselves. I still have that gun but have not shot it in years.

My friends and I had woods by my house, and we'd set up targets at about 10-11 yo and plink with .22s.

I was shooting birds at 8 with a break open .410.

My FIL and I take my boys out shooting at the range. We talk to them about gun safety ad nauseum. My shotgun is where they can't get to it, but if they could, I know they wouldn't. Besides, it's locked.

[Duke Nukum]

DUmmie Fascism: It hasn't happened to me so you don't need it!

[Duke Nukum]

I do not believe Miss Sara heard about the bankers wife and two daughters that were invaded by two men that raped the little girls, tied them to their beds and poured gasoline on them and burned them all up alive.

So both received the death penalty that will come about in 20+ years with appeals etc.---------What ever happend to public Hangings of the True Monsters ????  I am not talking about those that shoot and kill in a robbery, I am speaking of the Monsters that make their victims suffer.

True monsters vote Democrat.

[Big Dog]

Moron.  Whose airborne infantry were you with, Zaire's?

trumad was a Nazi- Fallschirmjager. Fits right in at the DUmp.





Panzerabwehrkanone 38 50mm gun. Could this be the oblate spheroid's Sturm Weber?


Note: I don't know how to make the umlauts on the German vowels.

[GOBUCKS]

We need to get 50mm machine guns off the streets. 

I think we can add DUmmy trumad to the DUmp's long list of phony soldiers.

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llmart (2,974 posts)
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Thank you for that. I could never understand these people who say they are "protecting their property". What? It's worth killing someone over some crap you bought at a store?

I'm an avowed minimalist and there's nothing in my small condo that I can't live without.

There are definitely some "things" in my house that I would kill - or die - to protect.  My children, step-children and grandchildren would top that list of "things."

Just wait until someone does break into your place, llmart ...and then tell us all about how you had no problem letting them take anything they wanted.

[DumbAss Tanker]

trumad was a Nazi- Fallschirmjager. Fits right in at the DUmp.

No way...they were on the wrong side, but they were true badasses who definitely knew what they were doing.  Nobody would ever say that about the DUmmies.

[67 Rover]

We need to get 50mm machine guns off the streets. 

I think we can add DUmmy trumad to the DUmp's long list of phony soldiers.

You forgot we also need to limit clip capacity for these 50mm street sweeper Saturday night special military style assault automatic riffles.

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llmart (2,974 posts)
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Thank you for that. I could never understand these people who say they are "protecting their property". What? It's worth killing someone over some crap you bought at a store?

I'm an avowed minimalist and there's nothing in my small condo that I can't live without.

Sane my ass. I would kill to keep someone from stealing anything in my house. Why? Because it's mine, that's why. Do you understand that concept? "Mine". If I'm there, and they break in, they've already shown me they have no disregard for my safety. F'em. Feed the worms.

[ChuckJ]

I had never heard of the Pearl High School shooting until seeing something about it today on Facebook.

From what I've quickly read...

It happened in 1997. A 16 year old boy killed his mother than drove her car to the local high school. At the school he killed two and injured seven. His plan was to then drive to the local Jr. high school and kill some more students.

Thankfully, the assistant principal at the high school wasn't like trumad. The assistant principal had a .45 pistol in his vehicle. He was able to get his pistol and hold the killer at gun point.

If the assistant principal would have been like trumad even more students would have probably been killed.

[Jasonw560]

I had never heard of the Pearl High School shooting until seeing something about it today on Facebook.

From what I've quickly read...

It happened in 1997. A 16 year old boy killed his mother than drove her car to the local high school. At the school he killed two and injured seven. His plan was to then drive to the local Jr. high school and kill some more students.

Thankfully, the assistant principal at the high school wasn't like trumad. The assistant principal had a .45 pistol in his vehicle. He was able to get his pistol and hold the killer at gun point.

If the assistant principal would have been like trumad even more students would have probably been killed.

The reason so many were killed is the fact that you have to be so far from the school with a pistol. So the VP had to run all that way for his gun. Had he had it with him, it would have stopped at the front desk.

Also, nadin "Appalachian School of Law shooting".

There's a reason these two events weren't publicized.

[Randy]

Trumud is a pansy.

The media is silent about this.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

And they also want to pick a fight with us.

[I_B_Perky]

Star Member trumad (33,301 posts)

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I'm 55 years old and have never owned a gun in my life.

Have I shot one-- sure---I was in the Airborne Infantry.

I've shot pretty much every weapon imaginable--- all the way up to a 50mm machine gun. But again---that was in the Military.

I think he meant a Canon with a 50mm lens.