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'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« on: December 07, 2012, 10:39:06 PM »
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'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars


 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveon/2012/12/07/black-boxes/1752865/

'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
Associated Press

December 7. 2012 - The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expected to propose in the coming days a rule requiring event data recorders — the so-called black boxes in vehicles that record crash data — in all new light vehicles.

The White House Office of Management Budget completed a review of the proposal today, clearing the way for NHTSA to finalize the standard for all cars and light trucks.

It was not immediately clear when the rule would take effect.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, an industry group made up of the Detroit 3, Toyota Motor North America, Volkswagen Group of America, Mercedes-Benz USA and six other automakers, urges the government to consider driver privacy, it said. ...

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1. can we use it

to prove we weren't speeding?

I had a California cop swear in court my truck was going over 70 -- uphill, with a governor set at 60. Tracking data was not admissible in court (then).

Not to mention when they try to pin their own accidents on their victims. This could be a good thing. Or at least a mixed blessing thing.

CA needs your money more than you do so pay your ticket and shut up!

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2. It's Big Brother coming soon to a car near you. Frightening.


You voted for Big Brother then have the nerve to complain when he is watching you.  :whatever:

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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 12:06:36 AM »
Yes DUchebags, be careful what you wish for.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 12:13:45 AM »
You can put lots of neat stuff in black boxes.  Transmitters for like GPS & speed.  Note your location & speed & just mail you your ticket.  Very efficient.
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Re: Re: Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 12:17:45 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on December 08, 2012, 12:13:45 AM
You can put lots of neat stuff in black boxes.  Transmitters for like GPS & speed.  Note your location & speed & just mail you your ticket.  Very efficient.
and a per mile "road usage" tax would be very easy to implement....
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2012, 12:21:15 AM »
Quote from: DLR Pyro on December 08, 2012, 12:17:45 AM
and a per mile "road usage" tax would be very easy to implement....
They've been talking about that bullshit in CA for a couple of years now.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2012, 12:26:41 AM »
A certain progressive insurance company has been advocating for such a device.
Plug and drive. Tracks your every movement.
Drive like a good little drone, and your payments drop five bucks.
Primitives should love the idea of oversight.
Forgive me if I don't mention the name of that progressive auto/boat/cycle insurance company.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2012, 02:46:36 AM »
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2. It's Big Brother coming soon to a car near you. Frightening.

Ahhhh....I see.  What if they were only required for registered rYGhtWinGerS!!11!!!1 eLeveNtY!!!?

Frightening?  Heh.....Wait until you get the Full Marxist®.  Probably see a glut of rank smelling Che T-shirts appear on E-Bay.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2012, 02:53:11 AM »
I think I'll hang on to my '78 Malibu for a while longer, thank you.

The only thing in it that's electronic is the radio.   :lmao:
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2012, 06:24:42 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on December 08, 2012, 02:53:11 AM
I think I'll hang on to my '78 Malibu for a while longer, thank you.

The only thing in it that's electronic is the radio.   :lmao:

I have a 2011 - almost two years now - with 11,000 miles on it.  I will keep it the rest of my life.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2012, 07:11:59 AM »
Guess I'll have to stick with the one tons.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2012, 07:26:05 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on December 08, 2012, 02:53:11 AM
I think I'll hang on to my '78 Malibu for a while longer, thank you.

The only thing in it that's electronic is the radio.   :lmao:

This was many years ago when I read this, but apparently by the early 1980s, the average American-made motor vehicle had more computer on it than Apollo 11 in 1969, which sent the first men to the moon.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2012, 08:47:53 AM »
Quote from: Undies on December 08, 2012, 06:24:42 AM
I have a 2011 - almost two years now - with 11,000 miles on it.  I will keep it the rest of my life.

To late, you already have an event recorder installed in your air bag equipped vehicle. Air bag computers store everything that was going on before a deployment. It was done as a CYA  by the automakers. You had to have a court order to have an engineer extract the data, unless of course you were suing them then they'd pull it on their own.

The "Snapshot" is exactly what they want, with the feds holding the key to extraction. Big Brother is knocking.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 12:06:08 PM »
Quote from: Randy on December 08, 2012, 08:47:53 AM
To late, you already have an event recorder installed in your air bag equipped vehicle. Air bag computers store everything that was going on before a deployment. It was done as a CYA  by the automakers. You had to have a court order to have an engineer extract the data, unless of course you were suing them then they'd pull it on their own.

The "Snapshot" is exactly what they want, with the feds holding the key to extraction. Big Brother is knocking.

Big Brother don't knock.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2012, 09:21:01 PM »
You get the right mechanic, there are ways around this crap. Friend of mine is one. He told me that the "Blow and Go" they use for convicted drunk drivers is easily bypassed if you know what you are doing.
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2012, 10:49:10 AM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on December 08, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
You get the right mechanic, there are ways around this crap. Friend of mine is one. He told me that the "Blow and Go" they use for convicted drunk drivers is easily bypassed if you know what you are doing.

Yeah you can bypass that easily by not drinking and driving.  :-)
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Re: 'Black boxes' likely to be required in cars
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2012, 04:17:02 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on December 09, 2012, 10:49:10 AM
Yeah you can bypass that easily by not drinking and driving.  :-)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That one made me laugh, Freep!
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