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So they don't want abortion to be legal, and they don't want birth control covered by insurance


 
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I don't think it can be clearer than that what the repuke party stands for

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He moron, we do NOT oppose insurance companies covering birth control. As usual you lie and spin about what we believe in. I will type slowly so you can understand, we do NOT oppose insurance paying for BC, we DO oppose the government forcing employers to pay for it. As usual you are ignorant to the facts and you do your best to pass of your lies as truth. Then when you are confronted with the truth you dismiss it as lies.

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1. not quite right. Since "life" begins at conception, it is still ok to murder babies made by rape

rape and incest victims are allowed abortions. For some reason. At least that was what was said tonight. Tomorrow? who knows.

That will be the Romney administration's position on abortion, it isn't going to change. A lot of us pro lifers with some conflict within understand that there are times when this is a necessary evil.

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5. I don't think anyone who claims to hold that position

really believes in it. How can they not realize how transparent they are? When they say that, it's so obvious they don't really consider a fetus to be a person. No one would ever be OK with killing a person because his or her father is a rapist.

Yeah we should be ashamed that we don't celebrate murder of the unborn.  :mental:

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9. Let me take their position for a moment and demonstrate the paradox.

If you believe that destroying a fertilized egg is "murder", then abortion should be illegal under any circumstance. It really doesn't matter at what stage. Once the sperm penetrates the egg, "life" is conceived. (My opinion is that it is merely an extension of the female body).


"Murder" is "murder". There is no grey area.

For political reasons, Romney says that "murder" is ok in some cases.

Look.....either you believe it or you don't. You can't have half-assed moral indignation.

I disagree with their position, but if I agreed with them, the dliemna would be swirling in my head.

Romney's position is weak. For a true believer, you can't "murder" any fertilized egg.

I'd rather deal with this dilemma than try to justify murdering babies for the crime of being inconvenient.

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10. They really should be giving condoms out like candy.

The problem is, they are not just opposed to abortion. They are also opposed to sex.


No, wanting people to responsible for their actions is not opposition. Just like owning a gun, we don't people doing stupid things with guns yet we don't call for banning them, we leave that to you.

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11. Produce "cannon fodder"

for their wars and be happy about it.

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Repuke party doesn't even seem an insult.  Does it to yall?  :???:






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Repuke party doesn't even seem an insult.  Does it to yall?  :???:

To their forever-stuck-on-stupid, drug-addled minds, it is.
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I would prefer to save 100% of aborted babies, but I will support a law that saves 98%. The. DUmp can only support laws that increase the number murdered.
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I would prefer to save 100% of aborted babies, but I will support a law that saves 98%. The. DUmp can only support laws that increase the number murdered.

My opinion exactly.

The DUmp is mad because Romney's view would only allow them to murder a handful of innocent babies. Outside of their favorite dictators and their comrades in the religion of peace I've never seen a group so eager to murder innocents.
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So micknumbers is anti-science.  Let me explain something to you.  Test DNA from any two place on your body.  It's the same.  It has to be, otherwise we couldn't use it in solving crimes.  The fetus has completely separate DNA.  While the child may be in the woman, it is not part of the woman, it is not an extension of her.  It is a completely seperate person.
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I would prefer to save 100% of aborted babies, but I will support a law that saves 98%. The. DUmp can only support laws that increase the number murdered.

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In the world of humanity, the primitives are aliens.

I see what you did there. :cheersmate:
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So micknumbers is anti-science.  Let me explain something to you.  Test DNA from any two place on your body.  It's the same.  It has to be, otherwise we couldn't use it in solving crimes.  The fetus has completely separate DNA.  While the child may be in the woman, it is not part of the woman, it is not an extension of her.  It is a completely seperate person.
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I would prefer to save 100% of aborted babies, but I will support a law that saves 98%. The. DUmp can only support laws that increase the number murdered.

Agreed.  I personally am uncomfortable with supporting abortion in the case of rape and incest, as I do believe that it is an innocent human life.  However, I suspect that at this point that is a politically untenable view.  Therefore, I will support the law that will reduce the most abortions with the highest likelihood of being passed.  It is better to save many lives, and lose a few, than to save none.  

What I can't comprehend is Biden's claim that he believes that life begins at conceptions, but that he can't "impose" that belief on others.  If I believe that somebody has a life, I'll impose whatever views necessary to prevent that person from being murdered.

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If I believe that somebody has a life, I'll impose whatever views necessary to prevent that person from being murdered.

Hi 5.
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Agreed.  I personally am uncomfortable with supporting abortion in the case of rape and incest, as I do believe that it is an innocent human life.  However, I suspect that at this point that is a politically untenable view.  Therefore, I will support the law that will reduce the most abortions with the highest likelihood of being passed.  It is better to save many lives, and lose a few, than to save none.  

What I can't comprehend is Biden's claim that he believes that life begins at conceptions, but that he can't "impose" that belief on others.  If I believe that somebody has a life, I'll impose whatever views necessary to prevent that person from being murdered.
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Agreed.  I personally am uncomfortable with supporting abortion in the case of rape and incest, as I do believe that it is an innocent human life.  However, I suspect that at this point that is a politically untenable view.  Therefore, I will support the law that will reduce the most abortions with the highest likelihood of being passed.  It is better to save many lives, and lose a few, than to save none.  

What I can't comprehend is Biden's claim that he believes that life begins at conceptions, but that he can't "impose" that belief on others.  If I believe that somebody has a life, I'll impose whatever views necessary to prevent that person from being murdered.
No one has trouble legislating against the murder of any human they can SEE! But the "reality -based " community believes that the short trip from inside the womb to outside magically creates a human!!
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I would prefer to save 100% of aborted babies, but I will support a law that saves 98%. The. DUmp can only support laws that increase the number murdered.

They use abortion as birth control! Stop that, and I'll be satisfied. Although, I don't see how you punish a child for rape or incest, either. But psychologically, I can see where it could be dangerous to the mothers health, which I have no problem supporting.
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Wow, logic is SO not their friend. They just hear whatever they want...it's damned eerie! As long as they think we're going to be some kind of evil dictator when we when, can we have them all sterilized? Do we really need any more of this running around stinking up the place and lowering the national IQ?

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Wow, logic is SO not their friend. They just hear whatever they want...it's damned eerie! As long as they think we're going to be some kind of evil dictator when we when, can we have them all sterilized? Do we really need any more of this running around stinking up the place and lowering the national IQ?

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Liberals are baby killers ...