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A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« on: August 30, 2012, 02:35:38 PM »
http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=f213b73d647e


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Figured this would get more exposure here than in the military section.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 02:58:35 PM »
Thank you.

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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 03:08:06 PM »
What do they mean by, "You see my sparkle?"
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 03:10:21 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on August 30, 2012, 03:08:06 PM
What do they mean by, "You see my sparkle?"

I'm assuming the little tag on the side of the ACU's that gives off a signature to friendlies when using infrared. I guess they don't have an FBCB2 box or BFT sitting in those Apaches. DocStew, TRG, and SSB should be able to fill you in. I never wore ACU's.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 03:17:17 PM »
Thanks, Reb. Sounds logical.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 03:48:27 PM »
Things have sure changed since Viet Nam.  I was fortunate to be in on the early work with IR, Laser Designators and the Hellfire while working for Combat Developments Comand at Ft Ord Ca. In the early 70's.  This gear turned out better than we ever imagined.

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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 04:01:47 PM »
How far away are the attack helicopters and how can they get such a clear image?  Wouldn't the future flying jihadis hear the helicopter?
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 10:59:33 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 30, 2012, 04:01:47 PM
How far away are the attack helicopters and how can they get such a clear image?  Wouldn't the future flying jihadis hear the helicopter?

Guessing by the time to target I'm guessing about 1 to 2 klicks.  This is all happening on a very dark night & I don't think they have any idea of the capability of those systems.  The clear image comes from IR imaging through high powered stabilized optics.  Our second shot in 1974 with a very high powered stabilized laser designator in a hovering UH-1D was designating an 8'X8' target from 10 miles for a modified Honest John missile.  We we hit the center of the target within 10".
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 11:05:50 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 30, 2012, 04:01:47 PM
How far away are the attack helicopters and how can they get such a clear image?  Wouldn't the future flying jihadis hear the helicopter?

Not really you wouldn't believe how quite they can get. In 1970 the Sikorsky Helicopter company was test flying the S-67 Black Hawk Helicopter and it was quiet up to 500 yards away over a normal conversation.

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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 02:40:10 AM »
Wow, what ever happened to the S67 ?
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 07:23:02 AM »
Quote from: obumazombie on August 31, 2012, 02:40:10 AM
Wow, what ever happened to the S67 ?

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The lone S-67 prototype crashed while conducting a low-level aerobatic demonstration at the Farnborough Airshow in September 1974. During a low-level roll maneuver, the nose dropped below the horizon resulting in a momentary descent which eliminated the altitude safety margin for a safe completion of the maneuver. The aircraft struck the ground in a level attitude and immediately burst into flame. Sikorsky test pilot Stu Craig died on impact, and test pilot Kurt Cannon died nine days later from his injuries. Development work on the S-67 ceased after this accident.

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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 08:49:37 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on August 30, 2012, 10:59:33 PM
Guessing by the time to target I'm guessing about 1 to 2 klicks.  This is all happening on a very dark night & I don't think they have any idea of the capability of those systems.  The clear image comes from IR imaging through high powered stabilized optics.  Our second shot in 1974 with a very high powered stabilized laser designator in a hovering UH-1D was designating an 8'X8' target from 10 miles for a modified Honest John missile.  We we hit the center of the target within 10".

With time, how many minutes [ seconds] is one Klick ?

 Only thing I have ever heard of that can beat the infer red heat seeking devices is Polar Bear pelts.   

So with our technology, why is the enemy still fighting  us with little more then pea shooters compaired to our arms ????

BTW, at first look at the title of the thread I assumed it was about an Indian Tribe suing the government for not allowing them to use Pot or Peyote in their religious ceremonies. 



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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 08:56:48 AM »
About the 11-12 minute point:

"Uh, be advised, one guy with weapons, he is no longer with us."

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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 09:40:38 AM »
I just love it when a plan comes together. Good shootin', guys.  :cheersmate:
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 11:05:16 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on August 31, 2012, 09:40:38 AM
I just love it when a plan comes together. Good shootin', guys.  :cheersmate:

One Hellfire per muzzie is some expensive war though.

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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 12:27:47 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on August 31, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
With time, how many minutes [ seconds] is one Klick ?

 Only thing I have ever heard of that can beat the infer red heat seeking devices is Polar Bear pelts.   

So with our technology, why is the enemy still fighting  us with little more then pea shooters compaired to our arms ????

BTW, at first look at the title of the thread I assumed it was about an Indian Tribe suing the government for not allowing them to use Pot or Peyote in their religious ceremonies. 





A klick is a (1) kilometer. Depending on the speed of the weapons platform bringing the ordnance to target, or the ordnance itself will tell you time on target.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 01:13:31 PM »
Quote from: Zathras on August 31, 2012, 07:23:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-67_Blackhawk

Also the air frame was built by hand and there was some political things going on with a former first lady holding about 50% stock in Bell helicopter and with the crash of the S-67 it guaranteed that the AH-1 would stay in production. If they had built the S-67 and made upgrades through it's service life I could only imagine what could have followed it.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 01:35:25 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on August 31, 2012, 11:05:16 AM
One Hellfire per muzzie is some expensive war though.


true dat. But hell, I ain't bitching. One less muzzie to worry about.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 01:39:58 PM »
Someone needs to invent a suicide vest that only goes off in a room full of muzzies.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 01:48:24 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on August 31, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
Someone needs to invent a suicide vest that only goes off in a room full of muzzies.

I thought they had something going with the anally inserted device.  Kind of a self propelled asshole.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2012, 01:51:16 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on August 31, 2012, 01:48:24 PM
I thought they had something going with the anally inserted device.  Kind of a self propelled asshole.
Can't shake that...image.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 10:00:18 PM »
Wow...talk about death from above.
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Re: A few Apaches smoke some insurgents
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2012, 08:06:54 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on August 31, 2012, 11:05:16 AM
One Hellfire per muzzie is some expensive war though.

Money well spent in my opinion. It's less expensive than the pain and suffering to the families of the Soldiers, Marines and Sailors that that single muzzie could hurt/kill if they didn't take him out.
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