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Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« on: August 28, 2012, 06:41:45 PM »
Reposted so as to remind the sparkling old dude it's been almost five years now, and he still hasn't taken anything back, as any decent person would.

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Stinky The Clown (47,026 posts)      Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:44 PM

Another school shooting. Another bully shot. Another victim in police custody.

This happened today, the first day of school, in a nearby county. The specifics don't matter. The issue is bullying.

The story is very much still breaking, so all of this is based on preliminary news from a chaotic scene.

It seems the basic story is all too familiar.

Over the summer, one kid was bullied by others, but mostly by one kid in particular.

The kid who was bullied was one of the all-in-black/trenchcoat types. He brought some sort of long gun to school today. In the cafeteria, he shot his tormentor in the back. So far, no one is dead, but the shooting victim/bully is in critical condition.

Three teachers tackled the still-armed young person, knocked him down, and disarmed him. (who says teachers are underpaid????) The shooter/bullied kid is in police custody.

. . . . . . so once again, it comes to this.

I probably won't report any further developments in this case. Honestly, it is painfully ordinary.

The issue, once again and to be clear, is bullying. We need to create ways in which bullied kids can *safely* report their plight. By *safely* I mean they have to be taken seriously and their identity has to be protected to keep them from further shunning by their peers.

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cali (73,477 posts)     Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:36 PM
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29. murderers are worse than bullies.

a bullied kid has the opportunity to work through being bullied. Just like I, the victim of childhood physical and sexual abuse, had the opportunity to work through that. Murder victims do not ever have that opportunity.

And no, I don't enable or lionize bullies.

Too bad you excuse murderers like Diebold and Harris. And you clearly do that.

Disgusting.

Hey, good try at bullying me, honey.

It won't work.

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Ian_rd (1,896 posts)      Tue Aug 28, 2012, 07:39 AM
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116. No. It was lame. Your OP clearly stated ...

"The kid who was bullied was one of the all-in-black/trenchcoat types. He brought some sort of long gun to school today. In the cafeteria, he shot his tormentor in the back. So far, no one is dead, but the shooting victim/bully is in critical condition."

You stated this plainly with the implication that it was known as fact. So much so that some irresponsible person at HuffPost decided to cite your post as a source. Just throwing a sentence or two in there about how this is still a chaotic breaking story only implies that there are more facts to come.

You screwed up. Take responsibility.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 07:18:53 PM »
Leave it to Stinkbait to stand up for the criminal and not the victim.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 07:40:47 PM »
Stinkdude must have been stalker over here when DOTY was being mentioned.  Figured he had to do/say something really stupid, to try to get more votes.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 07:44:24 PM »
The boy who was shot, if this is the same story, was a down syndrome child.  This victim was not anyone's tormentor.

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 07:47:17 PM »
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Honestly, it is painfully ordinary.

Finally something that Stinky is expert in.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 07:48:24 PM »
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Alleged Baltimore School Shooter's Victim Has Down's Syndrome

When Robert Gladden allegedly opened fire in the Perry Hall High School cafeteria he critically injured Daniel Borowy, a 17-year-old who suffers from Down's syndrome.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 07:51:03 PM »
When I went to school you were allowed to defend yourself from bullies...or at least get your bigger, badder, buddy to slap him a round a little for you... :-)

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 07:59:32 PM »
When I went to school you were allowed to defend yourself from bullies...or at least get your bigger, badder, buddy to slap him a round a little for you... :-)

Damn liberals and their rules make everything so damned complicated.

Yep, now they punish the bully's victim more for defending themselves than they do the bully.

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 08:01:49 PM »
I wonder if Stinky will offer a correction in 24 business hours?
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 07:42:25 AM »
Leave it to Stinkbait to stand up for the criminal and not the victim.
Typical liberal.
Even when when reporting it, he repeatedly stresses that the victim was a bully, as if that were the defining point of this whole thing.
He says that the main issue is bullying: What about the issue of a kid who was clearly mentally unstable and with warning signs yet which nobody (i.e. parents, teachers, etc.) did aything about before the shooting? That seems to be the case in a lot of these shootings over the last few years: The shooter was someone who was clearly disturbed and openly displaying a lot of the warning signs for violent behavior, and yet nobody did a blessed thing about it until it was far too late.
What about all the kids who were bullied (Myself included when I was a kid, in middle and ESPECIALLY high school) who DON'T shoot people or resort to other forms of violence?
Bullying is a problem, yes, one which I would love to see eradicated from our schools, but I think a more effective way of stopping such acts of violence is by spreading more awareness among kids, parents, and teachers of the warning signs that someone may be at risk of becoming violent, so that if someone begins demonstrating those signs, the others can recognize it and ensure that the person in question gets the help he or she needs in time. When I was in high school, they at one point distributed a pamphlet put out by 'Fight for Your Rights' (A kind of social- outreach program MTV sponsored in the late 90's to help regular teens take a stand against violence and crime) which listed the warning signs for kids who may be at risk for violence or suicide, offered advice and resources for helping them, etc.. I'd say bringing back something like that would be helpful.
btw, another cause of bullying is the control that liberalism has over our schools. Liberal teachers and administrators do next to nothing to try and discipline troublemaking kids and keep them under control, out of fear of "Harming their self- esteem" or "Stifling their creativity" or some crap like that, creating a consequence- free environment under which bullying thrives.

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 07:45:00 AM »
Atta boy, Stinky!  Way to justify shooting a kid with Downs Syndrome, ya stupid shit!

What's next, clubbing crippled kids?  Body-slamming kids with cerebral palsy?  You're just a ****ing laugh riot, you are.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 07:53:25 AM »
The boy who was shot, if this is the same story, was a down syndrome child.

You know who else has Down's Syndrome?

One of them Palin kids.</stinky>
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 08:02:38 AM »
Wow he really stepped into the shit that time didn't he?






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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 08:54:36 AM »
 :lame: :moron: :busted: :tool: Stick a fork in the stink man, he's done. :hammer:


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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 09:31:15 AM »
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What about the issue of a kid who was clearly mentally unstable and with warning signs yet which nobody (i.e. parents, teachers, etc.) did aything about before the shooting? That seems to be the case in a lot of these shootings over the last few years: The shooter was someone who was clearly disturbed and openly displaying a lot of the warning signs for violent behavior, and yet nobody did a blessed thing about it until it was far too late.

HEY! That's judgmental!   :rant:





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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2012, 09:45:40 AM »
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10. You're damn right.

The "victims" at Columbine were no such thing. They were bullies -- tormentors who actively targeted and sought to destroy those they perceived as weaker than them. And our system protected them.
 
The shooters at Columbine weren't justified in the murders, but they were the real victims. They had been victims for years and finally snapped.
 
I don't think that the dead at Columbine deviously made themselves into victims. Our system did that for them. And attitudes like the one you expressed here are what enable bullies to continue to do what they do.

The hampster packer is one sick idiot.

Hey FCLB, maybe one day someone will view your constant attempt at belittling their POV as you bullying them and decide to pop a cap in you.  When I'm on the jury, I'll be sure to remind them that in your opinion you were the bully and the shooter was the victim.

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 10:31:34 AM »
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(who says teachers are underpaid????)

They caused the problem so why shouldn't they have to deal with it? Keep on toke'n  :stoner: stupi....err stinky.

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 04:32:01 PM »
Its been reported that the victim is dead and the shooter is being charged with First Degree murder. Just like he should be. Some of us like me have had bullies after us but we never took a gun to school to deal with it. You either let the bully win or you stood up to him and had it out. Win or lose , it's better to stand up and fight back.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2012, 05:03:05 PM »
The post by "Fat Che's Little Brother" honestly made me want to throw up.
That is the ultra- liberal "Weep over the killer, blame the victim" mentality at its absolute worst.

"The "victims" at Columbine were no such thing. They were bullies -- tormentors who actively targeted and sought to destroy those they perceived as weaker than them."
That one statement is not only heartless and the sort of thing that could inspire future shootings (Especially considering how mentally unstable much of the DUmp already is), it also demonstrates colossal amounts of ignorance about what happened that day.
1. They wanted to kill not just the specific bullies who picked on them, but ALL jocks, including those who had nothing to do with the bullying. Witnesses in the library stated that one of them shouted "All jocks stand up! We're going to kill every one of you!"
2. Was Rachel Scott (The killers' first victim, a 17 year old girl who was a devout Christian and well- known for her friendly, compassionate nature) a "Bully" or a "Tormentor"? How about William "Dave" Sanders (The only teacher killed in the massacre, shot several times while attempting to lead students down a hallway to safety, causing him to bleed to death; He posthumously received the Arthur Ashe Courage Award for his selfless bravery)? Was he a "Bully" or a "Tormentor"?
3. The shooting was sort of a contingency plan for the killers. They originally wanted to blow up the school using propane bombs that they planted in the school cafeteria, and only started shooting when the bombs failed to go off. In plain English: They wanted to kill everyone in the school.

"The shooters at Columbine weren't justified in the murders, but they were the real victims. They had been victims for years and finally snapped."
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were violent psychopaths for a long time before the massacre. They and their "Trenchcoat Mafia" buddies challenged the jocks to a planned fight, and showed up to it (2 hours late and in the wrong spot) wielding swords and brass knuckles. They had a custom- designed map for the shooter video game 'Doom' which resembled the interior of Columbine High School. They were also virulent white supremacists known for going bowling and shouting "Heil Hitler" when they made a good throw (At least one of the students killed in the massacre was black). They epitomize what I said earlier about the nature of mass shooters: Clearly, notably disturbed individuals who were amply demonstrating all the warning signs of violent behavior, yet nobody paid any attention to it, let alone did anything about it, until it was too late.

That one post by Fat Che's Little Brother is the reason why liberals should not be allowed any position of power within our justice system.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2017, 06:23:25 AM »
Hmmmmm.

It looks as if the sparkling old dude had foot-in-mouth disease.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2017, 08:38:39 AM »
ABC News

Way to go, Stinky.

With Libs & Progs, everything has to fit some narrative. If it doesn't, either it didn't happen, or its from a Reich-Wing news source.

When I went to school you were allowed to defend yourself from bullies...or at least get your bigger, badder, buddy to slap him a round a little for you... :-)

Damn liberals and their rules make everything so damned complicated.

You had a good school. In 1971 I got the same 3-day suspension the bully got.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2017, 09:50:05 AM »
With Libs & Progs, everything has to fit some narrative. If it doesn't, either it didn't happen, or its from a Reich-Wing news source.

When I woke up this morning, I remembered this thread from five years ago, and that the sparkling old dude had never apologized for his jumping to conclusions.

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2017, 10:00:52 AM »
Somebody with downs syndrome was shot? Good thing it wasn't pam, there'd be a big mess to clean up too

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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2017, 11:02:29 AM »
When I woke up this morning, I remembered this thread from five years ago, and that the sparkling old dude had never apologized for his jumping to conclusions.

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Yeah, I failed to notice the date stamp. But he and DU are consistent in this respect. If there's a bright shiny narrative in prospect, no conclusion is so absurd that they won't leap to it (and in it). They are well-practiced, Olympic-class Conclusion-Jumpers.
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Re: Stinky runs his mouth defending a school shooter
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