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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2012, 01:20:00 PM »
Obama commercial claiming Ryan's plan is to kill off seniors in Florida in  3..2..1  :censored:

Obama and the Democraps are quite happy with this pick. Rubio was the one they feared because of the Latino vote in FL and other states that he could help deliver.

If Obama wins Florida, it is over.

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2012, 01:53:38 PM »
While Rubio would have been a good pick for VP, he really couldn't take it because if he had, the media and OBama's merry band of idiots would have had a field day calling him a quitter and flip-flopper and we would have had a Sarah Palin issue all over again.

Rubio has said time after time, that he did not want the VP spot, as he felt an obligation to his constituents to stay in Congress for a while since they had just elected him.

If he had left after 2 years, when he said he would stay, he would have been compared to Sarah walking away from being governor.

Also, one of the big arguments against Obama is he walked away after 2 years, and no experience. Granted Rubio has more community and state experience than Obama, but it would have negated the argument against Obama.

What this does do, if they get elected and Ryan does a good job, is set up for a Ryan/Rubio ticket which would be excellent.

Ryan is supposed to be an economic genius. Let's hope that enough people will vote for R/R in hopes of getting this country back to fiscal responsiblity, creating jobs, and bringing overseas jobs back to USA. If we can't get R/R elected and Obama gets reelected, we are screwed.

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2012, 02:15:12 PM »
While Rubio would have been a good pick for VP, he really couldn't take it because if he had, the media and OBama's merry band of idiots would have had a field day calling him a quitter and flip-flopper and we would have had a Sarah Palin issue all over again.

Rubio has said time after time, that he did not want the VP spot, as he felt an obligation to his constituents to stay in Congress for a while since they had just elected him.

If he had left after 2 years, when he said he would stay, he would have been compared to Sarah walking away from being governor.

Also, one of the big arguments against Obama is he walked away after 2 years, and no experience. Granted Rubio has more community and state experience than Obama, but it would have negated the argument against Obama.

What this does do, if they get elected and Ryan does a good job, is set up for a Ryan/Rubio ticket which would be excellent.

Ryan is supposed to be an economic genius. Let's hope that enough people will vote for R/R in hopes of getting this country back to fiscal responsiblity, creating jobs, and bringing overseas jobs back to USA. If we can't get R/R elected and Obama gets reelected, we are screwed.

Went and got a haircut this morning and my hairdresser was saying how much she hates Obama, and hopes that with R/R they can take it away from Obama. She's white, married to a black guy, and said she "hates hearing Obama referred to as a black man, because he isn't, he's mixed and that's all there is to it!" This from a woman who has a teenage "mixed" son!

Fact still remains that if Obama wins Florida, it is all over. Democrats are extremely happy that Rubio was not picked, and is the one they really feared IMO. Plus, none of the the candidates are perfect. They all have negatives. 

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM »
I think Romney will win Florida. I can't wait to see the look on obama's face when he does.

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« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2012, 02:34:30 PM »
MEH. It's not the dog in the fight , It's the fight in the dog.  :cheersmate:

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Re: Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2012, 03:38:46 PM »
I have a full plate right now. Busy, busy, busy. My dog is tired!

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #57 on: August 11, 2012, 03:44:48 PM »
I think Romney will win Florida. I can't wait to see the look on obama's face when he does.

The democrats seem to think that Romney will lose Florida since a lot of old folks live there and they can be scared into voting for Obama by pounding on Romney/Ryan over Social Security and Medicare.  But a lot of those old people have grandkids that they don't want growing up in a country that's going down the toilet.  I think Florida goes to Romney too.
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2012, 03:54:47 PM »
While Rubio would have been a good pick for VP, he really couldn't take it because if he had, the media and OBama's merry band of idiots would have had a field day calling him a quitter and flip-flopper and we would have had a Sarah Palin issue all over again.

Rubio has said time after time, that he did not want the VP spot, as he felt an obligation to his constituents to stay in Congress for a while since they had just elected him.

If he had left after 2 years, when he said he would stay, he would have been compared to Sarah walking away from being governor.

Also, one of the big arguments against Obama is he walked away after 2 years, and no experience. Granted Rubio has more community and state experience than Obama, but it would have negated the argument against Obama.

What this does do, if they get elected and Ryan does a good job, is set up for a Ryan/Rubio ticket which would be excellent.

Ryan is supposed to be an economic genius. Let's hope that enough people will vote for R/R in hopes of getting this country back to fiscal responsiblity, creating jobs, and bringing overseas jobs back to USA. If we can't get R/R elected and Obama gets reelected, we are screwed.

Went and got a haircut this morning and my hairdresser was saying how much she hates Obama, and hopes that with R/R they can take it away from Obama. She's white, married to a black guy, and said she "hates hearing Obama referred to as a black man, because he isn't, he's mixed and that's all there is to it!" This from a woman who has a teenage "mixed" son!

Good points, deb. For Rubio to sign on as veep candidate, that makes him no better than Barry. And setting up the ticket in 2020 with Ryan/Rubio is definitely a fine idea. h5
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2012, 06:22:41 PM »
Good points, deb. For Rubio to sign on as veep candidate, that makes him no better than Barry. And setting up the ticket in 2020 with Ryan/Rubio is definitely a fine idea. h5

If Romney is defeated, it will be Rubio at the top of the ticket in 2016.

I hope that Ryan is up to the task cause he is surely going to take a pounding. We will see. 

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2012, 06:35:04 PM »
The dems were going to beat the "scare" drum about SS and medicare regardless of whom Romney picked.

Hell...  They've been running such ads in Ohio for over a month now.
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2012, 07:07:01 PM »
The dems were going to beat the "scare" drum about SS and medicare regardless of whom Romney picked.

Hell...  They've been running such ads in Ohio for over a month now.

True but they will be using and twisting Ryan's own words about replacing medicare with a voucher system and raising the medicare age from 65 to 67. That is going to be a hard sell. Also,, his idea about privatising SS will not go over big either. Even Boehner said no way that is coming to a vote in the House. Just saying
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2012, 08:16:34 PM »
I don't think Romney needed someone from Florida on the ticket to win the state.  The State is very much in play.

The lefts mediscare & abolishing soc sec tactics have worn thin.  Seniors know any change to soc sec wouldn't affect current recipients. They may even be willing to see a partial privatization to individual accts as a method of ensuring the grandkids have soc sec when they retire.

For better or worse Boehner will remain as speaker because the guy that could replace him is on the presidential ticket.
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2012, 09:14:55 PM »
I don't think Romney needed someone from Florida on the ticket to win the state.  The State is very much in play.
The lefts mediscare & abolishing soc sec tactics have worn thin.  Seniors know any change to soc sec wouldn't affect current recipients. They may even be willing to see a partial privatization to individual accts as a method of ensuring the grandkids have soc sec when they retire.
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If you are wrong about Florida, the election is over...correct!!!!!

Like I said the democrats will USE Ryan's own words in ads. They do not have to make up shit. Let's see. Ryan advocated privatization of SS. Ryan proposed voucher systems for Medicare. Ryan has advocated raising the age to 67 for SS and medicare recipients. Check. Ryan voted for increasing the debt limit numerous time under the Bush administration.Not so under Obama. He voted for the stimulus. Ryan voted for one of the biggest budgets busters in many years which is Part D prescription drug benefits.

You are entitled to your own opinion but not the FACTS. My opinion is that Ryan is a Johnny come lately to budgets deficits. That is what kills me about these sorry ass politicians. When it is my guy doing it it is ok. When it is the other guy it is just plain awful. I will just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.  


 
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #64 on: August 11, 2012, 09:55:32 PM »
If you are wrong about Florida, the election is over...correct!!!!!
Not necessarily, more difficult to win yes but loosing Florida not the end.  Personally I don't think it'll be a close election at all.

Like I said the democrats will USE Ryan's own words in ads. They do not have to make up shit. Let's see. Ryan advocated privatization of SS. Ryan proposed voucher systems for Medicare. Ryan has advocated raising the age to 67 for SS and medicare recipients. Check. Ryan voted for increasing the debt limit numerous time under the Bush administration.Not so under Obama. He voted for the stimulus. Ryan voted for one of the biggest budgets busters in many years which is Part D prescription drug benefits.

You are entitled to your own opinion but not the FACTS. My opinion is that Ryan is a Johnny come lately to budgets deficits. That is what kills me about these sorry ass politicians. When it is my guy doing it it is ok. When it is the other guy it is just plain awful. I will just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.  

The People in their early 50's and younger already have to wait until they are 67 to draw social security. Not sure about medicare but the two are somewhat tied together. As far as budget deficits Johnny come lately better than not at all isn't it ?
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2012, 10:13:20 PM »
Not necessarily, more difficult to win yes but loosing Florida not the end.  Personally I don't think it'll be a close election at all.

The People in their early 50's and younger already have to wait until they are 67 to draw social security. Not sure about medicare but the two are somewhat tied together. As far as budget deficits Johnny come lately better than not at all isn't it ?

Losing Florida would be devastating and I do think it would be the end.

You are right. The age he advocated was 70 instead of 67.

The Ryan budget would cut in half Obama's 10 trillion over the next 8-10 years. In other words our debt would increase 5 trillion under the Ryan plan. Those type of increase are not sustainable

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2012, 03:58:39 AM »
Obama commercial claiming Ryan's plan is to kill off seniors in Florida in  3..2..1  :censored:

Chris Matthews Slams Paul Ryan Budget as 'Screwing' Needy People

On a special Saturday edition of Hardball, MSNBC host Chris Matthews twice claimed that Republican Rep. Paul Ryan's budget "screws" needy people. During a segment with Democratic Rep. Chris Van Hollen, as he asked what it was like to work with Rep. Ryan as his colleague, the MSNBC host asserted that the plan "really screws the people who desperately need Medicare and programs like that."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2012/08/11/chris-matthews-slams-paul-ryan-budget-screwing-needy-people
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2012, 05:01:41 AM »
Chris Matthews Slams Paul Ryan Budget as 'Screwing' Needy People

On a special Saturday edition of Hardball, MSNBC host Chris Matthews twice claimed that Republican Rep. Paul Ryan's budget "screws" needy people. During a segment with Democratic Rep. Chris Van Hollen, as he asked what it was like to work with Rep. Ryan as his colleague, the MSNBC host asserted that the plan "really screws the people who desperately need Medicare and programs like that."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2012/08/11/chris-matthews-slams-paul-ryan-budget-screwing-needy-people

I would not put too much stock in what sissy Crissy says. However, jobs and the economy is what Romney/Ryan should hit the democraps with. When they are elected, they can talk about the budget. What voters want right NOW is a plan to increase jobs and how they are going to kick the economy in high gear. That should be their number 1 focus. That is what will change an undecided voter into one for our team.   

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2012, 05:49:37 AM »
Not necessarily, more difficult to win yes but loosing Florida not the end.  Personally I don't think it'll be a close election at all.

The People in their early 50's and younger already have to wait until they are 67 to draw social security. Not sure about medicare but the two are somewhat tied together. As far as budget deficits Johnny come lately better than not at all isn't it ?

Ryan is not a fiscal hawk like everyone thinks he is. His voting record under the Bush administration is not that good. He got religion under Obama but is that just like most politicians such as raising the debt ceiling under Bush okay; raising under Obama, bad, bad.

Jobs and the economy are the # 1 issue. Stick to that and they win. Play the numbers game rather than "it's the economy stupid", and they lose.
It really is pretty simple.

Florida being on the east coast in that time zone will have a major impact on turn out in other time zones. If Florida is called early for Obama, it is curtain for Romney as many conservatives will stay home.  

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2012, 06:07:32 AM »
Ryan is not a fiscal hawk like everyone thinks he is. His voting record under the Bush administration is not that good. He got religion under Obama but is that just like most politicians such as raising the debt ceiling under Bush okay; raising under Obama, bad, bad.

Jobs and the economy are the # 1 issue. Stick to that and they win. Play the numbers game rather than "it's the economy stupid", and they lose.
It really is pretty simple.

Florida being on the east coast in that time zone will have a major impact on turn out in other time zones. If Florida is called early for Obama, it is curtain for Romney as many conservatives will stay home.  

I'm no financial wiz and certainly can't speak to these things like some can, but simply because the debt ceiling is raised isn't a showstopper. It can be done as a stopgap measure to permit various things to happen - preparing a budget, allow fiscal policy to "take root," things like that.

The degree and the frequency to which the debt ceilings were raised -- and yeah, I'll go with you on the Bush thing (we all know Bush is not a fiscal conservative) are the objectionable parts and the politics behind those actions were the egregious things, in my view.

The Repubs got the shit end of the stick on the last debt ceiling action and they wound up looking like idiots.

No balls, no spine, no ethics, no morals. That's our Congress (as an entity).
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2012, 06:54:15 AM »
Ryan is not a fiscal hawk like everyone thinks he is. His voting record under the Bush administration is not that good. He got religion under Obama but is that just like most politicians such as raising the debt ceiling under Bush okay; raising under Obama, bad, bad.

I beg to differ:

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2012, 07:46:57 AM »
Well, Ryan did vote yea on HR 2608 - Continuing Appropriations Act of 2012 - keeping the gov't afloat till Nov. 2011. In fairness, though, the bill prohibits funding under Sec. 102 of items not funded during FY11 and it funds FEMA another $2.65 billion.

I suppose he had to do that, but CR after CR after CR after CR does not make the Repubs look good.

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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2012, 07:52:47 AM »
Well, Ryan did vote yea on HR 2608 - Continuing Appropriations Act of 2012 - keeping the gov't afloat till Nov. 2011. In fairness, though, the bill prohibits funding under Sec. 102 of items not funded during FY11 and it funds FEMA another $2.65 billion.

I suppose he had to do that, but CR after CR after CR after CR does not make the Repubs look good.



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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2012, 08:48:31 AM »
I beg to differ:

http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/26344/

He voted for the biggest budget busting legislation in many years which is the Medicare Part D drug prescription plan under Bush. It will add trillions to the debt in the next 20 years. .  
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Re: Mitt Romney will Announce his Presidential VP choice 9am Saturday
« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2012, 09:13:55 AM »
True but they will be using and twisting Ryan's own words about replacing medicare with a voucher system and raising the medicare age from 65 to 67. That is going to be a hard sell. Also,, his idea about privatising SS will not go over big either. Even Boehner said no way that is coming to a vote in the House. Just saying

That's because the GOP establishment would rather kowtow to the AARP and other elder/liberal PACs.

Fact is, at this rate there will come a day when it's not going to be a tapering, it's going to be a flat-out elimination of benefits for millions of retirees.

I'm planning on being one of them, hence why my retirement planning does NOT include SS or Medicare.
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