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Offline Mr Mannn

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Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« on: June 17, 2012, 03:41:00 PM »
Make your predictions here, folks.

and get some popcorn for liberal reactions when it is shot down.

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 03:44:59 PM »
It should be 9-0 to shitcan the whole thing, but I voted for 6-3 to trash it, yet I'm worried that it may stand.

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 03:48:04 PM »
It should be 9-0 to shitcan the whole thing, but I voted for 6-3 to trash it, yet I'm worried that it may stand.


We know 3 of them would rule pi=3.0 if obozo told them to do so.  1 on the fence but would probably vote if it was rounded to 3.14 (but based on the questioning I am pretty sure it will go 6-3).

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 04:07:44 PM »
I agree, it should be 9-0, but I say 5-4 with the 5 sane members on the Court voting to throw it out.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 04:14:37 PM »
Voted for 6-3, praying for 5-4.  Do you suppose the Supremes ever gaze out their windows and smile at us scurrying around out here trying to divine what they are going to do?

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 04:32:01 PM »
I voted 6-3 tossing one provision only.  I meant to hit 5-4.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 04:51:48 PM »
6 to 3. Even if they only do away with the mandate, that would effectively disable the whole monstrosity.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 04:55:57 PM »
6 to 3. Even if they only do away with the mandate, that would effectively disable the whole monstrosity.

That would still leave about 1600-2300 pages of crap Kathleen Shithealius could drop on our heads.  Like passing out free rubbers at Mass or something.

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 05:42:12 PM »
I have no idea.  I say 6-3 Toss the whole thing out.  I'll be in training for the next two weeks and unable to listen to Rush & Hannity.  Lord save me!  But I will check my phone on my breaks and lunches to see what kind of crazy is going on over the next two weeks.  :)
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 05:45:20 PM »
It's the severability clause.  They accidentally or on purpose didn't get it in there.  So it's all out; or it's all in.

Some liberals don't even want it (read at DU or Daily Kos), due to the individual mandate. 

So I say, it's all out.  Please God.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 05:49:55 PM »
5-4 Toss the mandate.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 06:37:48 PM »
5-4 toss the whole thing

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2012, 01:41:51 AM »
5-4 and it's all tossed out.

And that will start the Liberal calls for impeaching the 5 that voted to toss it out or for Obama to fire them.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2012, 07:17:12 AM »
5-4 and it's all tossed out.

And that will start the Liberal calls for impeaching the 5 that voted to toss it out or for Obama to fire them.

Led by the MSM, until someone actually bothers to show them the Constitution. Then they'll start digging.

At which point, Issa starts digging into why Kagan didn't recuse, in violation of federal law.

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2012, 07:50:10 AM »
6-3 to toss only the mandate.  But that will in effect shitcan the entire bill because without that, so much of it is worthless.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 10:13:55 AM »
Led by the MSM, until someone actually bothers to show them the Constitution. Then they'll start digging.

At which point, Issa starts digging into why Kagan didn't recuse, in violation of federal law.

Is there a federal law regarding Supreme Court justices recusing themselves, or is it only USSC rules that are involved?

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 10:18:38 AM »
1. Is there a federal law regarding Supreme Court justices recusing themselves, or 2. is it only USSC rules that are involved?

1. No

2. Yes but, it is pretty much up to the recusing justice to decide if they need to butt out.

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2012, 10:20:24 AM »
The plot thickens.

The WSJ had an editorial over the weekend that talked about some Republicans who are finding some elements of Barrycare that are admirable.

Now this:

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2012, 11:46:10 AM »
The Supremes are normally very cautious about overstepping the question presented, it therefore seems unlikely to me they'd toss it all.  Even if the provision tossed makes the entire house of cards collapse, they basically regard that as a problem for Congress to solve, not them.  I think it'll be 5-4 to toss the single provision, but it is also quite possible for Obama to win this one 5-4, too.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2012, 12:08:35 PM »
The Supremes are normally very cautious about overstepping the question presented, it therefore seems unlikely to me they'd toss it all.  Even if the provision tossed makes the entire house of cards collapse, they basically regard that as a problem for Congress to solve, not them.  I think it'll be 5-4 to toss the single provision, but it is also quite possible for Obama to win this one 5-4, too.

No offense, but, I hope you're wrong on all counts.

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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2012, 09:07:56 AM »
None taken, but I had to read a lot of Supreme Court cases getting that JD cum laude and then an LLM.  There is a culture of its own the Court follows in these matters, and that is the basis of my guess, but it is certainly possible they will step away from their normal judicial conservatism in a particular case...Obama's attempts to demonize and intimidate them with his BS about it being 'Unprecedented' and other shenanigans may alienate some of the centrists to the point of wanting to see him put him in his place.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2012, 09:12:30 AM »
But the SCOTUS has overstepped on more than one occasion (Kelo/New London, Roe/Wade.)  Let's hope they overstep in the right direction this time.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2012, 09:15:43 AM »

'Nuff said. :popcorn:
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2012, 10:01:32 AM »
5-4 toss it all with a cease and desist order on top, like a cherry.
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Re: Poll: How will the USSC rule on Obama Care?
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2012, 10:11:13 AM »
None taken, but I had to read a lot of Supreme Court cases getting that JD cum laude and then an LLM.  There is a culture of its own the Court follows in these matters, and that is the basis of my guess, but it is certainly possible they will step away from their normal judicial conservatism in a particular case...Obama's attempts to demonize and intimidate them with his BS about it being 'Unprecedented' and other shenanigans may alienate some of the centrists to the point of wanting to see him put him in his place.

I could see that but, if they don't dump the whole thing, I think they see this thing degenerating into 2600+ individual suits coming at them.  Also, there's the severability issue.