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Offline thundley4

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Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« on: June 14, 2012, 01:27:32 PM »
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Why are the Democratic surrogates on the cable shows so crappy while the Repubs are so much better?

Is there a boot camp that the Dem. surrogates could go to please? The Republicans are totally full of shit, have their facts all wrong, BUT they all have the same playbook and same set of talking points and they stick to those points come Hell or High Water.

And the Democrats seem unable to refute even the most obvious of bullshit.
I just watched Debbie Dingell and Alfonse D'Amato on Faux News. He repeatedly kept pounding the "facts" that Pres. Obama has had him time to fix things and things have gotten WORSE. He shoudn't get a do-over yada yada.

Why was Dingell unable to come back with FACTS about how many jobs were being LOST when Pres. Obama took office versus GAINED now? Is that truly so difficult?
The best she could do was stammer something about well everyone agrees it is bad now, but Obama will win the argument about what to do for the future.

It was disgustingly embarassing.

The Republicans win the argument everytime even with Bullshit because they all say the same thing over and over and over and the general public starts to believe it. The Democratic surrogates are all over the place.
Where is the full throated defense of Obama and his policies? The full throated attack on the Republican Lies?

Is there no Democratic Frank Luntz who can give them their talking points?

Sorry for length of this whine, but it is so frustrating watching this over and over.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002807845

Sorry DUmmies. Just because  you like to call something a fact, doesn't make it so.

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jehop61 (81 posts)
1. Perhaps

your problem is that your watching Faux News. Check out Up with Chris Hayes on the weekends or anyone Rachel Maddow has on. I've never heard of the two you mentioned above. They can't be very important or informed.

Step into the echo chamber where no dissenting opinions are allowed.

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2. I have wondered this for years. They come accross as a bunch

of followers. Too afraid to offend.

Liberals are always offensive.  Still, you have a point about them being like sheep. Skinner has a nice flock.

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3. Faux News know which Democrats they book. They're the Republican media

and the last thing they want is to have a strong Democratic surrogate to defend President Obama.

What are you watching Faux News Channel? Don't you know that when you do, you support their fixing the viewership numbers?

Obama and Biden both have standing invitations from all Fox programs.  Why are they afraid to go on Fox?  They know their bullshit won't work.

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4. We find it hard to delve into the world of bat-shittery the way they do. Plus,

Their tactic is one of uncivilized debate; just scream the loudest and over-talk your opponent. We were raised better than that.

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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 01:30:04 PM »
It is always best to tell the truth.  Then, you don't have to work so hard to keep your story straight. Billy Jeff exempted.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 01:31:48 PM »
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Why was Dingell unable to come back with FACTS about how many jobs were being LOST when Pres. Obama took office versus GAINED now? Is that truly so difficult?

Isn't that weird?

Kind of like how 9/11 was all Bush's fault even though the majority of the planning and staging had been done while Clinton was in office.

Funny how logic like that can come back to haunt you isn't it?
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 02:51:45 PM »
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4. We find it hard to delve into the world of bat-shittery the way they do. Plus,

Their tactic is one of uncivilized debate; just scream the loudest and over-talk your opponent. We were raised better than that.

Ed (I generally stay drunk) Shultz - I rest my case.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 03:06:32 PM »
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4. We find it hard to delve into the world of bat-shittery the way they do. Plus,

Their tactic is one of uncivilized debate; just scream the loudest and over-talk your opponent. We were raised better than that.

Just mentioned MSNBC.

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1. Perhaps

your problem is that your watching Faux News. Check out Up with Chris Hayes on the weekends or anyone Rachel Maddow has on. I've never heard of the two you mentioned above. They can't be very important or informed.

And anyone on MSNBC is informed? Why are MSNBC's ratings so bad again?
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 03:24:35 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on June 14, 2012, 03:06:32 PM
Just mentioned MSNBC.

And anyone on MSNBC is informed? Why are MSNBC's ratings so bad again?
According to the DUmmies it is because the Teabagging cable companies and satellite providers shoved MesSNBC to the 3rd tier of channels you have to pay extra for.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 03:27:57 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 14, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
According to the DUmmies it is because the Teabagging cable companies and satellite providers shoved MesSNBC to the 3rd tier of channels you have to pay extra for.

We still get it.  Would gladly swap for Mil, Nat Geo or another shopping chan.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »
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15. Because the good are not allowed on. When was the last time you saw Alan Grayson

on one of those shows? When he is, he does exactly what you want, and exposes them. He is not invited back.
 

It's because he's unbearably embarrassing. 
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 03:36:22 PM »
Quote from: Karin on June 14, 2012, 03:31:07 PM
It's because he's unbearably embarrassing. 
That and he is not very telegenic. Dude looks like a caveman.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 03:38:18 PM »
Try watching Bob Beckel.  :lmao:
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 03:43:50 PM »
Turns out the only way that big government totalitarians win in debates is on MSNBC where there  are only hardcore leftists debating Stalinists.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2012, 03:48:04 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 14, 2012, 03:36:22 PM
That and he is not very telegenic. Dude looks like a caveman.

People tune in to MessNBC & think they are looking at an old SNL re-run.  "CAVEMAN CONGRESSMAN" (I think they actually did that one.)
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2012, 04:08:49 PM »
Quote from: BEG on June 14, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
Try watching Bob Beckel.  :lmao:

I like Bob as much as I like any liberal.  At times he does show a human streak.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2012, 04:13:05 PM »
Quote from: BEG on June 14, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
Try watching Bob Beckel.  :lmao:

Ask yourself, would you leave your watch or wife alone with this guy?


Makes you wonder if the caption under this picture shouldn't be:

David Axelrod, testifying before the House Organized Crime Commission ....
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2012, 04:20:06 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on June 14, 2012, 04:13:05 PM
Ask yourself, would you leave your watch or wife alone with this guy?


Makes you wonder if the caption under this picture shouldn't be:

David Axelrod, testifying before the House Organized Crime Commission ....

I wouldn't leave a young child with him.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 04:34:27 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 14, 2012, 04:08:49 PM
I like Bob as much as I like any liberal.  At times he does show a human streak.

He really sang Bush the Elder's praises this week on the Five.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 04:34:42 PM »
My favorite line...
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And the Democrats seem unable to refute even the most obvious of bullshit.
Wonder why that is?  :whistling:

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Why was Dingell unable to come back with FACTS about how many jobs were being LOST when Pres. Obama took office versus GAINED now? Is that truly so difficult? yes
Maybe Dingellberry just could find a single one. Ever think about that, DUmbass.

Your women and children are safe around Axelnut. He only finds your wallet to be sexy.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2012, 05:29:33 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 14, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
According to the DUmmies it is because the Teabagging cable companies and satellite providers shoved MesSNBC to the 3rd tier of channels you have to pay extra for.

Well, that crappy excuse ends for Comcast customers in Massachusetts (and maybe elsewhere) soon. The days of plugging a cable-ready set into live coax and getting basic cable are over. All cable now requires a converter, and all channel tiers are expanding.

The reason is simple -- and will certainly anger the primitives. Because they are to blame.

When one would sign up only for internet service, getting basic cable was a side effect. So, to induce the primitives to throw some money in for the nearly free TV they were getting, Comcast (and others) moved channels loved by primitives to one service tier higher.

It didn't work. The cheapass primitives continued to be cheapass primitives.

So now everybody needs a cable box.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2012, 05:30:40 PM »
Quote from: BEG on June 14, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
Try watching Bob Beckel.  :lmao:

I just love to see Bob Beckel on The Five.  He seems to get his ass handed to him on a daily basis.   :cheersmate:
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2012, 05:38:35 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on June 14, 2012, 03:27:57 PM
We still get it.  Would gladly swap for Mil, Nat Geo or another shopping chan.

The Military Channel is one of my new favorite stations. They show some great documentaries on that station.


Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 14, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
According to the DUmmies it is because the Teabagging cable companies and satellite providers shoved MesSNBC to the 3rd tier of channels you have to pay extra for.

That is the biggest crock of crap I have ever heard.  :lmao:
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2012, 06:24:33 PM »
PMSNBC is part of the basic el-cheapo package.
I watch it now and then for intertainment value.
I miss Keef.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2012, 06:29:43 PM »
Quote from: Skul on June 14, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
PMSNBC is part of the basic el-cheapo package.
I watch it now and then for intertainment value.
I miss Keef.

It is for Comcast too - it's part of the 'Digital Starter' package. However, one couldn't get it for free by plugging a cable ready TV into a live cable. And that pissed the primitives off to no end.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2012, 06:38:27 PM »
 :cheersmate:  I too miss Keith O, There must be some info-commercial, 4-AM channel home for him.
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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2012, 06:55:15 PM »
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4. We find it hard to delve into the world of bat-shittery the way they do. Plus,

Their tactic is one of uncivilized debate; just scream the loudest and over-talk your opponent. We were raised better than that.

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Re: Why are the facts on the conservative's side?
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2012, 07:05:11 PM »
Quote from: redkatz919 on June 14, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
:cheersmate:  I too miss Keith O, There must be some info-commercial, 4-AM channel home for him.
I think he advertises on Ron Pauls Drag Race, on the LOGO channel.  :whistling:
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