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Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« on: April 19, 2012, 12:32:31 PM »
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Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols

A recent decision by the Marine Corps to reinstate "Crusaders" as the name of its Fighter Attack Squadron 122 — replacing "Werewolves" — and adopting the red cross of the medieval Knights Templar was blasted as unconstitutional and willfully ignorant by a civil rights group Wednesday.
“I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad," said Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit organization that advocates church-state separation. "It will directly end up taking lives and maiming members of our military."

VMFA-122 based out of Beaufort, S.C., used the Crusaders symbol from 1958 up to 2008, when Lt. Col. William Lieblein pointed out that imagery invoking the Christian conquest and colonization of Muslims during the Middle Ages was counterproductive to U.S. soldiers based across the Arab and Islamic world.

"The notion of being a crusader in that part of the world doesn't float," he said, ordering the change to "Werewolves," as reported by the Beaufort Gazette at the time.

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I am sure that this won't be allowed to stand.  Obama will see to it.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 12:34:00 PM »
I have some politically incorrect patches I earned. I was asked to not show them, but I still have them, and will never take them off.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 12:47:09 PM »
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“I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad," said Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit organization that advocates church-state separation. "It will directly end up taking lives and maiming members of our military."

I don't think a cloth patch is the primary concern of the Marines attached to this squadron, retard.  It's more than likely the howling jihadis that will try and take their lives and maim them regardless of a ****ing patch..

Besides, it's not like Marines don't know the dangers of their profession...
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 01:11:29 PM »
Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols

OK...well DUmmies, just keep on poking at the Marines and the headline will be

MARINES BLAST GROUP..............
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 01:15:40 PM »
Political Correctness run amok.

Again.

It's simply a rotten damned shame that the Marines get caught up in this crap. If they had leadership that would tell this "group" to go **** themselves, that esprit and comradeship transcend PC-itis, we might have just a little bit less of this kind of nonsense.

"Crusaders" has a nice ring to it. Crusaders, go and find the enemy muzzies, and KILL THEM.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 01:42:48 PM »
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VMFA-122 based out of Beaufort, S.C., used the Crusaders symbol from 1958 up to 2008, when Lt. Col. William Lieblein pointed out that imagery invoking the Christian conquest and colonization of Muslims during the Middle Ages was counterproductive to U.S. soldiers based across the Arab and Islamic world.

Colonel, Colonel, Colonel, you ignorant slut. That imagery wasn't a symbolization of Christian conquest over the filthy, goat-****ing Muzzies. It symbolized defense of Christians, AND Jews, in the Holy Land when the filthy, goat-****ing Muzzies decided to get the hell out of those shitholes Medina, Mecca, and other places in Saudi Arabia, and go on a conquest to conquer and seize lands from other people. Get educated, Colonel. Christians have been around for 2000 years. Jews for 5000. Filthy, goat-****ing Muzzies? 1400. Even if you're completely ignorant of history, you should at least be able to perform basic math. You are, afterall, a field-grade officer.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 01:55:28 PM »
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I am sure that this won't be allowed to stand.  Obama will see to it.

Well then, President Romney will have to reinstate the patch next January.  :fuelfire:
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 02:00:51 PM »

"VMFA-122 based out of Beaufort, S.C., used the Crusaders symbol from 1958 up to 2008"



Thats quite a history only to be swept under the rug for expediency. What if they were the Werewolves and we went to war with Romania, do they chage their group name again?
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 02:25:20 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on April 19, 2012, 01:42:48 PM
Colonel, Colonel, Colonel, you ignorant slut. That imagery wasn't a symbolization of Christian conquest over the filthy, goat-****ing Muzzies. It symbolized defense of Christians, AND Jews, in the Holy Land when the filthy, goat-****ing Muzzies decided to get the hell out of those shitholes Medina, Mecca, and other places in Saudi Arabia, and go on a conquest to conquer and seize lands from other people. Get educated, Colonel. Christians have been around for 2000 years. Jews for 5000. Filthy, goat-****ing Muzzies? 1400. Even if you're completely ignorant of history, you should at least be able to perform basic math. You are, afterall, a field-grade officer.

  Had to ^5 you for that one, only problem I see is that the Jews have been running about in the Bible since time began.   I believe the Muzzies came in around 600-700 AD as it took time to get up to speed and piss the Brits off in the 1400'ds.   Meanwhile the Muzzies had managed to piss off anyone in their neck of the woods.

So anyone know who the Crusader was  that reported that riding into Constantinople the blood of the Muslim was up to the flanks of their horse ???? 
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 02:54:00 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on April 19, 2012, 02:25:20 PM
 Had to ^5 you for that one, only problem I see is that the Jews have been running about in the Bible since time began.   I believe the Muzzies came in around 600-700 AD as it took time to get up to speed and piss the Brits off in the 1400'ds.   Meanwhile the Muzzies had managed to piss off anyone in their neck of the woods.

So anyone know who the Crusader was  that reported that riding into Constantinople the blood of the Muslim was up to the flanks of their horse ????  

I didn't know up front but decided to gog it for the heck of it...

Abdullah ibn 'Amr

"So the Arabs will seek help from the bedouins, then they will marsh until they reach Amaq (valleys) of Antioch where the greatest of the battles will occur, until the horses are soaked in blood up to their flanks. Allah will withhold victory from all, until the angels will say: "O Lord, will You not help Your believing slaves?" So, He will say: "Not until they have had many martyrs."

So it seems to have been the Romans attacking Amaq of Antioch.

I have no idea if Constantinople has had a name change before or after.

Anyway, do I win anything?
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2012, 02:59:54 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on April 19, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
I didn't know up front but decided to gog it for the heck of it...

Abdullah ibn 'Amr

"So the Arabs will seek help from the bedouins, then they will marsh until they reach Amaq (valleys) of Antioch where the greatest of the battles will occur, until the horses are soaked in blood up to their flanks. Allah will withhold victory from all, until the angels will say: "O Lord, will You not help Your believing slaves?" So, He will say: "Not until they have had many martyrs."

So it seems to have been the Romans attacking Amaq of Antioch.

I have no idea if Constantinople has had a name change before or after.

Anyway, do I win anything?


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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2012, 03:02:03 PM »
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2012, 03:11:42 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on April 19, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
I didn't know up front but decided to gog it for the heck of it...

Abdullah ibn 'Amr

"So the Arabs will seek help from the bedouins, then they will marsh until they reach Amaq (valleys) of Antioch where the greatest of the battles will occur, until the horses are soaked in blood up to their flanks. Allah will withhold victory from all, until the angels will say: "O Lord, will You not help Your believing slaves?" So, He will say: "Not until they have had many martyrs."

So it seems to have been the Romans attacking Amaq of Antioch.

I have no idea if Constantinople has had a name change before or after.

Anyway, do I win anything?


Only reason I know this never taught to me at least in schools, some time in the 50's a song came on that my parents would dance to.-------All I can remember is the music and the  few words--

" Take me back to Constantinople,no I can't go back to Constantinople, it is now Istanbul."
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2012, 03:23:04 PM »
If the jihadis ever get close enough to a guy wearing a V-anything patch to tell what it is, his shit's in the wind already.  Stupid PC BS.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2012, 03:49:35 PM »
I got a fix for this... Just carpet bomb the Jihadists instead, they won't get close enough to be offended by some patch on a Marine's flak jacket that way.   :fuelfire:
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2012, 04:06:15 PM »
Quote from: Injenu on April 19, 2012, 03:49:35 PM
I got a fix for this... Just carpet bomb the Jihadists instead, they won't get close enough to be offended by some patch on a Marine's flak jacket that way.   :fuelfire:

+1.  If the images and symbols on a marine's flight suit at 22,000 feet are the biggest complaint the Jihadis have with us, then we obviously aren't killing enough of them.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 04:18:41 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 19, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
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I am sure that this won't be allowed to stand.  Obama will see to it.

Excuse me for not caring about the sensitivities of people who blow other people up.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2012, 05:28:05 PM »
It's not just a patch on a flightsuit,  it's also the emblem painted on the aircraft they fly. Sometimes its been pretty big in size, large enough to cover the tail on some designs.  It's still nonsense as to why it was changec just to not offend someone out to behead you. Like the man said, "it would be like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500".
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 10:54:08 PM »




And the other markings.

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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2012, 11:51:11 PM »
They should paint it on the bottom of their Super Cobras as well. PsyOps is a strong factor in tactical warfare.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2012, 12:55:49 AM »
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“I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad," said Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit organization that advocates church-state separation. "It will directly end up taking lives and maiming members of our military."


Screw you...athiest ass clown.  Pictures of Marines pissing on dead suicide bombers do harm to our military down range...Members of the Airborne Mafia posing for pics with dead IED emplacers put us in more harm.

That logo does not.


And in any case Mikey needs to read up on what the seperation of church and state really means....and quit just mindlessly blabbering the leftist meme on it.
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Re: Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 12:06:00 PM »
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Screw you...athiest ass clown.  Pictures of Marines pissing on dead suicide bombers do harm to our military down range...Members of the Airborne Mafia posing for pics with dead IED emplacers put us in more harm.

That logo does not.


And in any case Mikey needs to read up on what the seperation of church and state really means....and quit just mindlessly blabbering the leftist meme on it.

It all goes back to the jihad on Americans is our fault. Lib logic extraordinaire.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2012, 12:44:43 PM »
 So then I guess Devildogs is out then too?
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