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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2012, 11:40:44 PM »
It would be nice if he had a little fire. A little passion. And could turn it on the Media and 0bama every once in a while.

I think that is coming. If he wins Pa, Santorum is toast. Then he will focus on the lousy job that Obama has done.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2012, 02:38:49 AM »
I'm going to happily vote for Romney because, when I do, I'm not looking at Romney's face, but Obama and his bitch wife waving in Marine Corps One on the way to Andrews to be flown back to that shithole South Chicago for the last time.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2012, 08:11:51 AM »
The problem is that WE cannot vote in good, conservative reps as fast as the "Old Guard" can corrupt them into "the system".  The ones that cannot be corrupted by the RINO leadership are being isolated by them, and then set up to have their political careers destroyed.  They're corrupt, venal bastards; dirty tricks and "not playing fair" is all part of the modus operandi for them.

I fear you are correct, particularly concerning how the "Old Guard" -- on BOTH sides of the aisle -- tend to corrupt the noobs into the system. The noobs quickly learn that doing what they're told to to, when they're told to do it, is the secret of a long, fruitful, wasteful, but profitable career in politics.

Reelection is the panacea for ALL of these chumps because it once again puts them in power. With power comes money and membership at that exclusive club.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2012, 05:00:07 PM »
I'm going to happily vote for Romney because, when I do, I'm not looking at Romney's face, but Obama and his bitch wife waving in Marine Corps One on the way to Andrews to be flown back to that shithole South Chicago for the last time.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2012, 09:16:40 AM »
I would gladly pitch in for the cost of their Samsonite. 

You already are. You think they'll be traveling light and on their own dime?

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2012, 02:10:04 PM »
Truer words were never spoken. It looks like we are stuck with Romney. Like I have said before there are many differences between Obama and Romney.For example:
#1 Romney will do everything in his power to get the economy rolling while Obama seems like he wants to tear it down
#2 Romney loves this country. The muslim-in-chief is ready to sell us out.
#3 I take Romney at his word that he will work to repeal Obamacare. Not in a million years would Obama do that.
#4 I also take Romney at his word that he will work to improve our energy policy.

Those 4 things are enough for me to vote for him. I do not overlook his shortcomings but he is 10 times better than Obama. He is a RINO but that is a hell of a lot better than a commie loving, Muslim, anti-American, POS like Obama.



And we'll have a heckuva lot more influence over Romney than 0bama. Especially if we increase our numbers in the House and Senate. We have a lot of conservative congressmen who haven't been able to enact anything because 1/3 of the government isn't much of a voice. And many of them were new. It takes time to learn the ropes in that town. By the time the Republican wins the White House they'll be ready.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2012, 02:43:43 PM »
I'm not disagreeing with you.  I AM saying that we'll never get enough of them in fast enough to be a threat to the RINO leadership and it's power base.  They - republican and democrat alike - have stacked the deck against any serious threats to their status quo.  Those they can corrupt - all the while mouthing the conservative rhetoric as if they were our staunchest allies - they will; like I just said though, those they can't corrupt they will ostracize, isolate and destroy.

We only lose when we give up. Where we are now has been a dream of the left going all the way back to Woodrow Wilson. Whether good or bad, conservatives...AMERICANS...people who love this country have seriously taken our eye off the ball. The snowball really started rolling right after WWII and I don't know why. That was one of the most patriotic generations in history and they raised a generation of Marxist hippies. Those hippies took over the media, the schools, Hollywood (a very influential propaganda tool) and a good portion of the judicial branch.

Now that it's reached critical mass we're waking up and it's not too late. They generation coming up behind us, our children's generation is much more conservative. I just missed the whole "peace & love" thing and grew up in the 70's, the so called "apathetic generation" but my children's generation reminds me more of my grandparent's generation (or parents generation...your mileage may vary, my parent's were pretty much at the tail end of the hippie era but my husband's parents were WWII vets). They're very patriotic. 911 had a bigger impact on them then many of us realize. All the propaganda in the world doesn't matter when you see your country attacked.

0bama was the left's last hurrah! I think even they know this that's why he (they) rushed to get through as many of their socialist ideals as he (they) could (get enough through and the country will be too dependent regardless of their values).  So we start with Romney and work our way right. And we make sure we teach our children and our grandchildren what it means to be an American and we remind them of what we could lose. Those who watched the towers fall must never forget that feeling. And we MUST listen to the voices of our vets. Almost all of our WWII vets are gone and our Vietnam vets are getting older (my uncle's in his late 60's). I've met very few liberal vets and I've never met any that didn't have a deep sense of patriotism. Except John Kerry...who served in Vietnam. And John Murtha, but the Corps disowned him a long time ago.

Sometimes I think when we have a leader like Reagan we see it as a means to the end. Given the same opportunity the left would see that election as a 1st step. And that's the one lesson we CAN learn from them. Granted, it means we have to work harder than them...our side is the one that keeps the economic engine of the country going, we fight the wars and (since we aren't killing them in the womb) are raising most of the next generation...but we've proved that we can with the Tea Party movement. And our voices were louder, stronger (and more in line with the rest of the country) than any occupy movement in the country. We have power but they have always been the toddler screaming and throwing a tantrum in the middle of the toy store. Our mistake has been to buy them the stupid toy to shut them up so we can get back to work. And now they know that gives them power...the more they yell the more they get. We have to "just say no" (Nancy was right in so many ways) because dependency has become a drug for them.

So Romney and a conservative house, a few senate seats are a start. There are more of us. We're more patriotic. We have more power. We just have to decide this is the first step on an already strong foundation (thanks to our founders) and never take our eyes off the goal. If they can do it without a quarter of the talent and resources, certainly we can.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2012, 05:34:46 PM »
I'm still pissed at the smear job that was done on Herman Cain. In my opinion, that was the libturds greatest victory since they lost the house.

Yes, I say "victory." That, and demonizing every not-Romney candidate we had (except for Huntsman). But Cain was special. While he showed some inconsistencies that ALL the candidates displayed (and was still scads better than Obama w/o teleprompter), Herman Cain represented, in my opinion, the best GOP candidate we have had since Ronald Reagan.

So Romney it is. I'm not really angry at his carpet bombing, but his transformation toward conservatism had best be done damn quick.

In addition, we need to make sure we take over the Senate. We have 23 dems up for reelection; more than half of those races are too close to call. Other than Snowe's seat in Maine, I doubt we will lose any on our side of the aisle. I'd like to see a 54-55 GOP majority in the Senate, and for the House to get more conservative even if they don't pick up too many more seats.

This will be MANDATORY. We HAVE to have complete and unambiguous control of Congress for Romney's moderate views to be negated somewhat. I'm going to start focusing on Congressional races in a couple of weeks, and yes, I WILL support anti-Obama Romney in the general election.

One more thing: He had BETTER get a conservative as VP, someone who will be just as conservative in 2020 (unless he wants another non-presidential VP like Dick Cheney). I will absolutely CRINGE if he gets a Bush-type or a Christie-type.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2012, 05:48:40 PM »
Thank you GOP Congress, for reminding me of Herman Cain.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2012, 07:00:32 PM »
People need to think about USSC nominees and think about who Obama has appointed thus far. I will GLADLY support Romney and I don't like him either.

Getting rid of Eric "My People" Holder is why I will vote for Romney in November.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2012, 06:26:15 AM »
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2012, 11:46:14 AM »
Your state government appointed Sentors until the 17th Amendment was ratified in 1913.  Since then, the election of Senators has been done by popular election just like the House of Representatives.  The 17th Amendment was passed in retaliation for the Civil War and to punish the southern states.

I think you're wrong about the effect of it, though; if appointed by State legislatures, they'd be MORE likely to be as subject to the present whims of the populace than they are now.  I particularly shudder to think what kind of dirtbags and criminals the Illinois legislature would pick and send to the US Senate.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2012, 04:28:17 PM »
I think you're wrong about the effect of it, though; if appointed by State legislatures, they'd be MORE likely to be as subject to the present whims of the populace than they are now.  I particularly shudder to think what kind of dirtbags and criminals the Illinois legislature would pick and send to the US Senate.

That's why there'd be one Dem, and one Republican from New York--the Assembly would appoint some thief, and the Senate would appoint a slightly more palatable thief.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2012, 05:58:34 PM »
I will vote for Romney before I ever vote for Obama. Then I would vote for a gorilla before I vote for Obama. Basically, it comes down to anyone but Obama.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2012, 06:02:30 PM »
I will vote for Romney before I ever vote for Obama. Then I would vote for a gorilla before I vote for Obama. Basically, it comes down to anyone but Obama.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2012, 06:31:35 PM »
I think you're wrong about the effect of it, though; if appointed by State legislatures, they'd be MORE likely to be as subject to the present whims of the populace than they are now.  I particularly shudder to think what kind of dirtbags and criminals the Illinois legislature would pick and send to the US Senate.

Couldn't have been any worse that Bullis, Obama, or Durbin.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2012, 11:15:25 PM »
I think you're wrong about the effect of it, though; if appointed by State legislatures, they'd be MORE likely to be as subject to the present whims of the populace than they are now.  I particularly shudder to think what kind of dirtbags and criminals the Illinois legislature would pick and send to the US Senate.

Well, even with the current system, Delaware got Plugs Biden and kept him until he decided to start rimming Barry.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2012, 04:07:37 PM »
The Seventeenth Amendment was added because some of the States were slow in appointing Senators and those States were going unrepresented.  I think it is a good thing.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2012, 04:19:01 PM »
I do not like Romney either.  He is barely half way to the 1144 delegates needed.

I am saddened that Rick Santorum dropped out, he said he had to because he was not receiving enough money to continue.

Rick did not need to get all the way to 1144 delegates, he only needed enough to keep Romney from reaching that number and force a brokered convention.

Newt ain't gonna get that done.

Just prior to the April 4 primaries, Rick had won 15 States to Romney's 11 and newt's 2.

Rick won more counties than all of the other candidates combined times 2.

Rick won the less populated Red States with fewer delegates.  Romney won higher populated blue states that will vote Obama in November, and the territories that cannot even vote in the General Election.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2012, 04:22:45 PM »
The Seventeenth Amendment was added because some of the States were slow in appointing Senators and those States were going unrepresented.  I think it is a good thing.

That's bullshit. The 17th amendment was created by progressives to weaken states rights. It was a DISASTROUS amendment that needs to be repealed.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #70 on: April 15, 2012, 04:27:03 PM »
BTW, the way senators were nominated and appointed when the nation was founded was part of an internal checks and balances in the US Congress. If the people did start getting dumb as **** and wanting to vote themselves the treasury, their representatives would be stopped by the senators, which is the higher branch of Congress. It was a crucial tenet to federalism and we've been weakened as a Republic due to its passing. The reason you have idiots calling this nation a "Democracy" now without hesitation was caused by the 17th Amendment. Until the 17th Amendment is repealed, it's when, not if, this nation and greatest experiment on the planet, ceases to exist. It's gonna happen. We're at, what, 49% of the population that pays nothing in federal income taxes? We simply cannot exist as a nation when you have people hellbent on making that number even higher. It's a numbers game and they're not on our side.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2012, 05:38:08 PM »
That's bullshit. The 17th amendment was created by progressives to weaken states rights. It was a DISASTROUS amendment that needs to be repealed.

Unless you were there in 1913 and can offer first hand knowledge, I will defer to this:

The ratification of this Amendment was the outcome of increasing popular dissatisfaction with the operation of the originally established method of electing Senators. As the franchise became exercisable by greater numbers of people, the belief became widespread that Senators ought to be popularly elected in the same manner as Representatives. Acceptance of this idea was fostered by the mounting accumulation of evidence of the practical disadvantages and malpractices attendant upon legislative selection, such as deadlocks within legislatures resulting in vacancies remaining unfilled for substantial intervals, the influencing of legislative selection by corrupt political organizations and special interest groups through purchase of legislative seats, and the neglect of duties by legislators as a consequence of protracted electoral contests.

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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2012, 06:03:50 PM »
I didn't have to f'n be there in 1913 and the case your showing us shows that it was changed due to popular opinion. This nation wasn't based on the rule of the majority, but the rule of law. If you think determining the direction of this nation should be based on popular opinion, you're part of the reason the nation is ****ed up and we have 49% of Americans not paying a damn thing in federal income taxes. States have NO representation in DC since that hideous amendment was passed. I'll defer to the founders on how this nation should be set up. You can defer to the progressives all you want.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2012, 06:07:25 PM »
And a deadlock, IMO, isn't always a bad thing. There was a reason it was set up that way. Our entire f'n election system JOKE is nothing but a popularity contest now.
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Re: I don't like Romney.
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2012, 06:45:26 PM »
And a deadlock, IMO, isn't always a bad thing. There was a reason it was set up that way. Our entire f'n election system JOKE is nothing but a popularity contest now.

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BTW, the way senators were nominated and appointed when the nation was founded was part of an internal checks and balances in the US Congress. If the people did start getting dumb as **** and wanting to vote themselves the treasury, their representatives would be stopped by the senators, which is the higher branch of Congress.

Theoretically it is a sound policy, but what would stop liberal states from appointing the exact same type of senators that get elected now?    The most liberal senators come from liberal states that are spending themselves into debt.