Rick Santorum wants to make porn illegal.

[MrsSmith]

Promising you're going to do something if elected, which anyone who ever took an undergrad Constitutional Law class would know you'd have no actual power to do, is just ****ing stupid.

Promising to uphold the current laws is NOT stupid.   

[longview]

Promising to uphold the current laws is NOT stupid.   

^5

[DumbAss Tanker]

Promising to uphold the current laws is NOT stupid.  

It is when the Supreme Court long ago rendered 'The current law' completely unenforceable, but feel whatever you want about it, it's a free country.

As SSB's thread with the much more inflammatory title notes, what it does amount to is a pointless diversion of campaign effort by Santorum to go down this rabbit trail, when his chief primary opponent doesn't have any vulnerabilities on this point and is instead focusing on the economic issues that are a more general concern.  Is it a way to recover from some of the 'Anti-woman' attacks by the Dems, maybe, but there are better ways to address that than to use his limited campaign capital to attack in an entirely new direction where nobody he's opposing has an actual position in the first place.

[Karin]

So long as all the participants are consenting adults , and all the audience are consenting adults - It's none of my business , and none of the governments business.

And I agree wholeheartedly as well.  There are some things that can and cannot be done in a free society, especially when we believe in small government.  I think in matters such as this, one leads by example.  We all see examples of decent civilized living all around us.  We pattern ourselves after those behaviors, and try to pattern our children's.  I resist all nanny-statism.  That is why I'm not a Santorum girl. 

[txradioguy]

http://www.ricksantorum.com/enforcing-laws-against-illegal-pornography

That is from his website. He announced that if he is elected, he will outlaw porn. I can't see it completely going away. But it will interesting to see if he does, if he becomes President. I wonder what the liberals are saying about this? They are probably standing up for porn now  

Either you have a real reading comprehension problem with what you quoted above or you're just not that bright.

Not sure which yet.

[MrsSmith]

Either you have a real reading comprehension problem with what you quoted above or you're just not that bright.

Not sure which yet.

I was unpleasantly surprised by the number of posters that commented on "outlawing porn" without evidently reading or understanding what Santorum said.   

[Rebel]

Santorum has revealed himself to be a whiny little brat, MrsSmith with his "it's better to vote for Obama than Romney". Sorry, any support I had for him, he's worked his ass off to lose.

[docstew]

Santorum has revealed himself to be a whiny little brat, MrsSmith with his "it's better to vote for Obama than Romney". Sorry, any support I had for him, he's worked his ass off to lose.

+1

[Lacarnut]

Santorum has revealed himself to be a whiny little brat, MrsSmith with his "it's better to vote for Obama than Romney". Sorry, any support I had for him, he's worked his ass off to lose.

Same here. He allows the media to put him on the defense too much. Can you imagine what Obama and the Democrats would do to him. The nominee need to go on the offense and stay on the offense with issues that will win the election. Porn and contraception is not going to do the trick. Just STFU about those type of issues. Blast Obama on his economic policies, energy, health care, debt and jobs. That is what will win independents over to our side. They are the group that determines elections and they are more interested in pocketbook issues. I know Repubs are not too swift. However, it should not take a mental giant to figure that out.

[txradioguy]

Santorum has revealed himself to be a whiny little brat, MrsSmith with his "it's better to vote for Obama than Romney". Sorry, any support I had for him, he's worked his ass off to lose.

That was taken out of context as well by the AP and reported as fact.

He's saying if there is no difference between the two candidates...Obama and Romney...whisch there really isn't...then four more years of Obama will be no different than having President Romney.

[txradioguy]

So wait let me get this straight...we bitch and moan when a Republican candidate for ANY position doesn't stand up for them selves and we wish they'd throw the media's crap back in their face...but when the DO that...suddenly they are "whiny"?

Which way do you want it?  Cause you can't have it both ways.

[Rebel]

He's saying if there is no difference between the two candidates...Obama and Romney...whisch there really isn't...then four more years of Obama will be no different than having President Romney.

You said we're misunderstanding him and then, with this quote, back up our assumptions. Yes there is and if that's the way Santorum believes, he doesn't have my vote. There's a difference between a liberal-moderate Republican that loves his nation, has no problem drilling, is a Capitalist, and a full, balls to the wall ****ing Marxist. He may not be as right as you, me, or Santorum who, although he tries to portray the opposite, IS a big government politician, but he's FAR from Obama.

[Splashdown]

That was taken out of context as well by the AP and reported as fact.

He's saying if there is no difference between the two candidates...Obama and Romney...whisch there really isn't...then four more years of Obama will be no different than having President Romney.

Hey tx. Good to have you back, first of all!   

Second, you have to admit, that was a pretty stupid thing for Santorum to say. A ham sandwich would be better in office than 0bama. Santorum broke Regan's cardinal rule, and therefore, lost my vote.

[txradioguy]

Hey tx. Good to have you back, first of all!   

Thanks.  Nice to be back.

Second, you have to admit, that was a pretty stupid thing for Santorum to say. A ham sandwich would be better in office than 0bama. Santorum broke Regan's cardinal rule, and therefore, lost my vote.

And what about Romney attacking everyone but Dr. Nutz in his ads?  He's spamming the airwaves with negative ads not agianst Obama...but against fellow Republicans.

Hell I can link right now to a post I made elsewhere where I said something to the effect that "If Ron Paul were to become our nominee we might as well elect Barry for another 4 years"...because there's virtually no difference between the two.

And ike I said...if you go back and read the full Santorum quote in context...it changes entirely whta he was trying to say.

If anything he's guilty only of falling into a media "gotcha" moment...helped along no doubt by Romney's press flacks.

[Lacarnut]

Thanks.  Nice to be back.

And what about Romney attacking everyone but Dr. Nutz in his ads?  He's spamming the airwaves with negative ads not agianst Obama...but against fellow Republicans.

Hell I can link right now to a post I made elsewhere where I said something to the effect that "If Ron Paul were to become our nominee we might as well elect Barry for another 4 years"...because there's virtually no difference between the two.

And ike I said...if you go back and read the full Santorum quote in context...it changes entirely whta he was trying to say.

If anything he's guilty only of falling into a media "gotcha" moment...helped along no doubt by Romney's press flacks.

The Repub candidates have to learn not to fall into those gotcha questions that the liberal media sets a trap for to get a headline. Do what Clinton and Obama does. Change the subject, spin, and turn your answer into something that will put your opponent on the defensive. Democrats are good at doing that. Repubs, not too hot. Santorum is not a disciplined politician.  

[MrsSmith]

Santorum has revealed himself to be a whiny little brat, MrsSmith with his "it's better to vote for Obama than Romney". Sorry, any support I had for him, he's worked his ass off to lose.

What he said was that, on healthcare, Romney and Obama are the same.  It was not a general statement, it was very specific to one subject. But there's no reason for us to actually read what he said in the OP or get a complete and accurate quote of what he said about Romney.  It's much better to just listen to the left-media and take their word for it.  That way, we can fit right in with most of the country. 


 

[Rebel]

Can I ask you two something? MrsSmith and TRG? If Romney gets the nomination, will you support him? I think you KNOW he was never my first choice, but I know when to play the odds. If you won't, I don't think you understand the judicial implications, specifically the USSC.

[txradioguy]

The Repub candidates have to learn not to fall into those gotcha questions that the liberal media sets a trap for to get a headline. Do what Clinton and Obama does. Change the subject, spin, and turn your answer into something that will put your opponent on the defensive.

You can't change the subject when every single question is a repeat of the last.  You can't refuse to answer or be a part of a press brief because to the media THAT is a gotcha moment too.  Basically the way the media operates now every press event is one giant "gotcha" moment.  Clinton and Obama didn't change the subject so much as they were never asked the tough questions.  And they never will be.  And when someone like a Jason Mattera or others ask the tough question that reporter gets blasted.

Why do you think they avoid Fox News like the plague and try to demagogue it every chance they get.

And when uncomfortable gaffes open mic moments or a Joe Biden speech actually does make it to the light of day via Fox or a website like NewsBusters....the MSM ignores it.  If they don't report it...it never happened.

Democrats are good at doing that. Repubs, not too hot. Santorum is not a disciplined politician.  

Democrats look good at doing that because they have a media willing to help their image. The GOP would look just as good if the MSM was fluffing them in the same manner they are the Dems.

[txradioguy]

Santorum has revealed himself to be a whiny little brat, MrsSmith with his "it's better to vote for Obama than Romney". Sorry, any support I had for him, he's worked his ass off to lose.

I said the same thing about a vote for Ron Paul by the GOP.

The AP and the rest of the media have purposely taken what Santorum said out of context to get just the reaction you are giving.

Don't you realize that?

[MrsSmith]

Can I ask you two something? MrsSmith and TRG? If Romney gets the nomination, will you support him? I think you KNOW he was never my first choice, but I know when to play the odds. If you won't, I don't think you understand the judicial implications, specifically the USSC.

I'll vote for him.  Anyone is better than Obama, but anyone except Paul would have been better than Romney.  My choice for President is:
Last) Obama
Next to last) Paul
Third worst) Romney
Best) Any of the other candidates

I'll vote for Third worst, if Romney wins the primary.

[txradioguy]

Can I ask you two something? MrsSmith and TRG? If Romney gets the nomination, will you support him? I think you KNOW he was never my first choice, but I know when to play the odds. If you won't, I don't think you understand the judicial implications, specifically the USSC.

Yes if he ends up being the nominee I'll hold my nose (as I did in '96 and '08) and vote for the RINO.

[Lacarnut]

You can't change the subject when every single question is a repeat of the last.  You can't refuse to answer or be a part of a press brief because to the media THAT is a gotcha moment too.  Basically the way the media operates now every press event is one giant "gotcha" moment.  Clinton and Obama didn't change the subject so much as they were never asked the tough questions.  And they never will be.  And when someone like a Jason Mattera or others ask the tough question that reporter gets blasted.

Sure you can. Newt was very good at answering gotcha question from the liberal media. After SC, he lost it and was overwhelmed by negative attack ads from his oppenets who had ten times as much money as him.

Notice how Obama spins the high gas prices. He blames the oil companies and the media carries his water. Jobs, gas prices, the economy, etc are the issues that Repubs need to focus on. Stay away from commenting on porn and contraception. If I am not mistaken, Santorum is the only candidate that has jumped into that topic. If the Repubs allow the media and Obama to focus on everything but his record and fall into that trap, they will lose. That should not be too hard for anyone to understand. IMO, Santorum is not a disciplined politician; he allows himself to be draggged into issues that will play to the base but to independents voters, it is a losing proposition.

[txradioguy]

Sure you can. Newt was very good at answering gotcha question from the liberal media. After SC, he lost it and was overwhelmed by negative attack ads from his oppenets who had ten times as much money as him.

Only one opponent has been spamming the airwaves with negativity against other GOP contenders....Romney.

And if Newt's ability to throw media gotcha's back at the media equated to anything other than applause lines he'd be a front runner.

Notice how Obama spins the high gas prices. He blames the oil companies and the media carries his water. Jobs, gas prices, the economy, etc are the issues that Repubs need to focus on. Stay away from commenting on porn and contraception. If I am not mistaken, Santorum is the only candidate that has jumped into that topic. If the Repubs allow the media and Obama to focus on everything but his record and fall into that trap, they will lose. That should not be too hard for anyone to understand.

The media could ask hundreds of other relevant questions...but because they have an agenda...the only thing you'll ever see on TV is the ones that make the GOP look the worst they can.

Don't you get that?  There is nothing the GOP can do...except use the higher viewership of places like Fox News to get their message out (and they won't do that for some unknown reason)...to stop what the MSM is doing in covering up the mess Obama is making and doing everything they can to throw the blame on the GOP.

Oh sure he could refuse to answer questions about religion and contraception...but then he falls into the trap again.  By not answering you allow the media to make the answer up for you.  I teach soldiers from privates to Generals that the one thing you absolutely can NOT say is "no comment" or refuse to answer a question.  The same thing applies to politicians.

IMO, Santorum is not a disciplined politician who allows himself to be draggged into issues that will play to the base but to independents voters, it is a losing proposition.

You're wrong.

[Lacarnut]

Oh sure he could refuse to answer questions about religion and contraception...but then he falls into the trap again.  By not answering you allow the media to make the answer up for you.  I teach soldiers from privates to Generals that the one thing you absolutely can NOT say is "no comment" or refuse to answer a question.  The same thing applies to politicians.

You're wrong.

It appears you do not know the difference between answering a question by spin opposed to answering it directly. Obama's press secretary does it every time he gives answers reporters questions. They are not all softball questions either. I never stated that Repubs should  refuse to comment on a question. The Repub candidate should deploy the same tactics that the democraps use.

Independents will decide the election; that is a fact. Most of them want to know about economic issues such as jobs, unemployment, debt,  gas prices and what the Repub will do to fix the problems. Like I said, if the Repubs allow Obama and the Democrats to frame the election on other issues such as race, abortion and other social issues, Obama will win reelection

[txradioguy]

It appears you do not know the difference between answering a question by spin opposed to answering it directly. Obama's press secretary does it every time he gives answers reporters questions. They are not all softball questions either. I never stated that Repubs should  refuse to comment on a question. The Repub candidate should deploy the same tactics that the democraps use.

I know the difference.  I've been dealing with the media as part of my job since 1992.  I stand behind everything I've said in how the media handles things.

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how a Republican answers a question...the media will portray it and edit it how ever they need to in order to fit their narrative.

Just like the AP did with the "might as well vote for Obama" clip.

And if you think that Jay Carney gets hard hitting questions...you don't know the difference between softball and hard hitting questions.

That is if you can actually get them to answer them at all.  The press office more and more shuts out the media and just releases press statements on certain events with photos taken by WH photogs.

Any event where the media is actually at is carefully crafted and the questions are known in advance.

Independents will decide the election; that is a fact. Most of them want to know about economic issues such as jobs, unemployment, debt,  gas prices and what the Repub will do to fix the problems. Like I said, if the Repubs allow Obama and the Democrats to frame the election on other issues such as race, abortion and other social issues, Obama will win reelection

IF you can't get the base motivated the so called Independents won't matter.  Why do you think Obama has trotted out a war on women...forced churches to pay for abortions and stoked the fires on a race war in Florida?  He's firing up HIS base.

And FWIW Santorum has addressed the economic issues what to do about the gas prices and even IIRC taxes.

Romney just runs attack ads and says nothing.

Again you just don't seem to get it...the Republicans running for President right now have NO CONTROL over the framing of this election...not as long as you have the media holding daily conference calls with the WH and repeating what the WH tells them to without so much as a cursory fact check.

Just look at the blonde bimbo on Morning Joe that reads texts from the WH straight from her BlackBerry on the air to counter Republican guests.