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Taverner primitive gets censored
« on: March 07, 2012, 12:36:45 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002396326

Oh my.

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1. quite the stretch there

first of all, whore has a specific meaning. Secondly you're over simplifying the dynamics of labor. Is the small organic farmer down the road really a "whore"?

Well, it's nice to see the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive's back.

She was gone for the longest time, and I was worried.

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2. Marx called it "prostitution of labor" and he was spot on

Yes, the organic farmer is a whore - we are all whores because to be the "John" you have to be independently wealthy.

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9. If he/she is subsistence farming, perhaps not

Otherwise, yes.

Let's not go out of our way to misunderstand what the OP is saying here. It's true that the term "whore" has a very specific meaning if one chooses to employ it that way, but it is also true that the word has been used in an expanded fashion to mean selling one's self (or one's labor) for money or other considerations.

For me the lesson is that using an emotionally charged term to describe a person who engages in a specific transaction of trading sexual favors for money is a bit unfair. Is there really that much of a difference between a person who performs one sort of activity solely for the financial gain versus another person who performs a different action, also solely for the monetary gain?

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3. I once saw a t-shirt that read this.

"We are all prostitutes."

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el_bryanto (2,275 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. It's almost like our entire economic system is set up to make whores of us all

Gosh! If only there were some other economic system based on equality that we could consider.

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8. I know...I heard there was one once....what was it called?

Stochism? Naw, that's not it....

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5. BS.

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6. Names used become curious when censored.

Pedophile <-- good word to label a sexual predator of children. This word was invented by the intellectual elite. An "Approved" word.

Slut <-- bad word when used as personal attack, means prostitute. Somewhat colloquial.

Asshole <-- Vulgar word, only the 99% use it, and particularly those of the punished classes. The 1% who really are dedicated assholes would never speak such truths in public, and believe the word should be censored from the public dialog.

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7. I would prefer not to call anyone that word
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 12:40:59 PM »
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4. It's almost like our entire economic system is set up to make whores of us all

If Capitalism makes you a whore then Socialism makes you a bound and gagged rape victim.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 01:04:01 PM »
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4. It's almost like our entire economic system is set up to make whores of us all
What's that old saying?  Find something you like and you'll never have to work a day in your life?
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 03:18:27 PM »
That much ignorance should cripple ya!

Tell ya what ya bunch of traitors, feel free to leave anytime!

Let us know which socialist, communist country ya wanna go to, and we'll hold a fund raiser to help buy ya a one way ticket!

Too bad we can't just send ya ta hell! We could buy all kinds of tickets as they would only cost about 35¢.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 04:14:44 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on March 07, 2012, 01:04:01 PM
What's that old saying?  Find something you like and you'll never have to work a day in your life?
That's how DUmmies end up with a $200K debt for a degree in Art History.

But it's true, most of them won't work a day.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 04:20:19 PM »
Awww, whazzamatta Tav ?

Isn't it fun getting censored by your own people ?

Maybe you should learn something from this - if what you post is too much for even DU, then perhaps you should reconsider your positions.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 05:02:29 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on March 07, 2012, 12:40:59 PM
If Capitalism makes you a whore then Socialism makes you a bound and gagged rape victim.

That's if your lucky right?
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 05:12:37 AM »
Quote from: catsmtrods on March 08, 2012, 05:02:29 AM
That's if your lucky right?

No, the lucky ones die. 
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 06:07:48 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on March 08, 2012, 05:12:37 AM
No, the lucky ones die. 

A socialist mercy killing.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 08:56:20 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on March 08, 2012, 06:07:48 AM
A socialist mercy killing.

Yeah, when you get 'Terminated' in a Utilitarian Socialist utopia, it doesn't mean you just have to find a new job.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 01:20:47 PM »
Here's what he had to say:

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We are all whores, every last one of us

Unless you aren't working, and independently wealthy, you are a whore. Instead of your sexual self, you sell your labor. Really not much difference there. It's pure exploitation and objectification.

Don't believe me? What does "HR" stand for? Human Resources. You are a company asset, a resource, a thing.

Still don't believe me? How much is your labor worth to the company? It's a little harder to tell, since this has long been abstracted by compartmentalization of the workplace - but chances are that if you are in sales, you know. You take your sales for that quarter, and subtract your expenses. Notice how it's not even close to what you are paid.

If you run your own business then you are even more of a whore - you market whatever it is that you sell/do/consult and answer to the customer. The customer is always right - whether if it's an electrical job or a blow job.

Lovely vision of the world he has there.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 01:21:36 PM »
Interestingly Lionessa and BlueIris both recommended the thread before it was locked...
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 01:32:42 PM »
Quote from: Aristotelian on March 08, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Here's what he had to say:

Lovely vision of the world he has there.

Hardly unique to the DUmmies or even controversial, it's an observation millions of even apolitical folks have made before.  One wonders why the DUmmies are so offended, given their own outre standards.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 01:37:54 PM »
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2. Marx called it "prostitution of labor" and he was spot on

Yes, the organic farmer is a whore - we are all whores because to be the "John" you have to be independently wealthy.

So...by DU's reasoning, Traverner is a Republican woman?
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 02:28:22 PM »
Quote from: BEG on March 08, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
So...by DU's reasoning, Traverner is a Republican woman?

He'd never pass the hawtness test.  Let alone the drug test, or the IQ requirement.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 02:55:30 PM »
I cannot believe what a crashing, smashing, colossal, deadly bore the DUmp is these days.

No good storylines, no decent bouncies, no nadin, no Imaboobi.

Just the numbing dullness of a nodding junkie and the Maryland catbox squatter.

Day after day of not a glimmer, not even a spark of intelligence or originality.

These dullards won't even make the presidential campaign interesting.

Maybe Steve Dawes, the committed lifelong socialist, can bail them out, or maybe some new stars will emerge.

If not, the powers that be should consider suspending the Top DUmmy award for a year.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 03:50:26 PM »
I know, it's slim pickins isn't it. We need a new issue; they're only repeating themselves.   Here's the closest thing to a bouncy I could find, in response to someone wondering why AFN does not seem eager to drop Rush.  It's a reverse-bouncy.

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5. Because they want to brain wash any one

They can to their ideas. My son n law is a officer in AF, for 12 years now.

When they first entered they were hard core democrats who had met Clinton at a book signing.

Then I noticed as the years went by they first had to hide the book in case certain people came over.

In 2007 they were the ones who first told me about Obama.

They have gone from base to base Texas, Hawaii, Korea, Wa state...

But then 3 years ago he started working at the pentagon and little by little listening and questioning things Obama has done to where a few months ago he changed to R and she changed to I.

 
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 03:54:04 PM »
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5. Because they want to brain wash any one

They can to their ideas. My son n law is a officer in AF, for 12 years now.

When they first entered they were hard core democrats who had met Clinton at a book signing.

Then I noticed as the years went by they first had to hide the book in case certain people came over.

In 2007 they were the ones who first told me about Obama.

They have gone from base to base Texas, Hawaii, Korea, Wa state...

But then 3 years ago he started working at the pentagon and little by little listening and questioning things Obama has done to where a few months ago he changed to R and she changed to I.

 

In other words, he grew up.
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Re: Taverner primitive gets censored
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2012, 03:56:07 PM »
Or if you prefer, Pittstain wrote something called "The Incomplete Greatness of Barack Obama"  Link to shitsmear  
I'm not putting that in my boat, though.  

edit, he didn't even write it, the lazy drunk!  He c&p'd it from Washington Monthly. 
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2012, 09:07:18 PM »
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5. Because they want to brain wash any one


DUmp riddle: Where do you go to brain  wash any  one?

The laundry  mat!
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